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Title: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 28, 2009, 02:32:05
Any thoughts on rescuing Earth from certain doom? Here I'm talking about the cultural conflicts and wars that are about to kill us, not only the natural disasters to come. We've all seen the warnings. I've personally had two entities intervene and tell me Earth - particularly the US and Europe - are headed toward doom for a multitude of reasons.

What can be done?


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kailaurius on March 28, 2009, 03:20:46
Maintain a constant focus on peace, happiness, and Unconditional Love.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 28, 2009, 04:28:10
loving the destruction? I was looking more for ways to prevent it


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Tayesin on March 28, 2009, 12:07:06
Zareste,
If we consider how long humans have worked with the mindset of Might is Right, we can see that this is a demise time for that operating condition. Which also tells us that it is now perfect for the times we are in. It also tells us something far more important, which is, the mindset needs to come to its own conclusion. If we end or change it before we are finished with the full experience of it, then we are inviting it to return at some time in humanity's future in order to finish it off.

For now we are Seed Planters for Humanity's future. Anything being birthed into the world will come with birthing pains, which is the end of the Old. We are past being able to do anything to change its path, so rejoice now in knowing the way we live on this world will soon reach its climax and our true work will begin in creating what comes after. Let us choose equality and understanding for all. Now, let us know this a is perfect and necessary, despite anyone's emotive judgements about it.

At this time we are meant to be find Equanimity, being able to see what is happening in the world and not being effected by any of, staying instead calm and centered. We are meant to be letting go of our issues, our needs and desires in order to become clear and aware.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 28, 2009, 13:43:53
I was kinda hoping someone here would be opposed to massive torment and death


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Skyalmian on March 28, 2009, 18:24:25
I share your view in part... While I am looking so very much to a rebirth of the world from all the changes, I am not pleased about the high potential for so many to depart in countless unpleasant ways. Sadly empathetic and detached, I would say of my view of it... It's unfortunate but those who do leave will have chosen to do so through what they support, how they feel, and what goes on in their conscious / unconscious processes.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kailaurius on March 28, 2009, 23:38:28
Zareste,
If we consider how long humans have worked with the mindset of Might is Right, we can see that this is a demise time for that operating condition. Which also tells us that it is now perfect for the times we are in. It also tells us something far more important, which is, the mindset needs to come to its own conclusion. If we end or change it before we are finished with the full experience of it, then we are inviting it to return at some time in humanity's future in order to finish it off.

For now we are Seed Planters for Humanity's future. Anything being birthed into the world will come with birthing pains, which is the end of the Old. We are past being able to do anything to change its path, so rejoice now in knowing the way we live on this world will soon reach its climax and our true work will begin in creating what comes after. Let us choose equality and understanding for all. Now, let us know this a is perfect and necessary, despite anyone's emotive judgements about it.

At this time we are meant to be find Equanimity, being able to see what is happening in the world and not being effected by any of, staying instead calm and centered. We are meant to be letting go of our issues, our needs and desires in order to become clear and aware.

Hi Tayesian,

Very nicely put.  I definitely agree.  :-)

loving the destruction? I was looking more for ways to prevent it

Hi zareste,

No, quite the opposite.  Loving the peace is what I meant.  If you look for ways to prevent destruction you're only giving energy to what you're trying to prevent.  The Universe always maintains perfect balance and harmony without exception no matter how "chaotic" events may be perceived.  A popular phrase that has been going around is, "Become the change you want to see.", which is a very appropriate phrase.  Instead of fighting against, thereby giving focus on what you do not want, focus on what you do want.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 29, 2009, 05:39:39
I want to live in a world that isn't ravaged by your nuclear and biological warfare. Sorry. We just want two different futures.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Awakened_Mind on March 29, 2009, 08:20:24
Zareste,

 If we pay conscious attention to destruction and focus on the inevitable doom of an unsustainable world then we are really adding to the manifestation of such horrors in the future. Quantum physics has been telling us now for some time that we are all connected and furthermore, that our thoughts affect reality. Waking reality can really be explained as a collectively agreed upon dream. If we sit around blaming and hating the people in the world who we feel are responsible for the state of the planet, then we are just adding to the overall low frequency wave of fear based psychology as we approach the centre of the galactic plane. We are adding to the overall collective state of negativity that generate the nuclear and biological wars which you blame on others.

We are evolving as we always have been. Evolving into a state where individuals take responsibility for their lives and accept responsibility for what we are collectively. People tend to get really caught up in the fact that an elite group of individuals are making bad decisions. We are ALL responsible for the state of the planet. Don't blame and say he is more responsible than me, it is simply ignoring your own participation in it. It's simply ignoring your own state of mind which adds to the overall problem. The link has to be seen between the dislike in someone's mind of say someone of different race or religion, or perhaps someone who dresses different and then the collective behaviour of wars and violence.

I say imagine a better world and hold onto that thought. Don't focus on all the bad that is happening at the moment but focus on the good and imagine the better. Practice kindness. Hopefully if we can become better people individually before 2012, it will produce are greater change for whatever future after the event. Even if nothing occurs at all.

-AM


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 29, 2009, 13:10:07
Well this is unfortunate.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Awakened_Mind on March 29, 2009, 18:53:42
What do you mean?

-AM


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 31, 2009, 16:28:08
Just a conflict of interest. I aim to give life to those who want life, and death to those who want death. I'm still learning how to deal with death-seekers


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stookie on March 31, 2009, 19:54:20
There is evidence that bad things are coming. But not proof. Psychic predictions are always wrong. And bad things are always coming, always have. I wake up every morning and the birds are singing. Nothing has happened in my life to tell me tomorrow won't be the same. I stay positive about things, live fairly environmentally clean, & try to spread philosophical/spiritual ideas so others can share too. To me, that's the best way to prepare people for their future and a better world.

I'll deal with the world falling apart (or die) when it happens, not now. There's still too much to enjoy today.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on March 31, 2009, 20:05:33
sorry dude but here is my view point,
1. when you say death in destruction I think Of fire, fire stands for rebirth and renewal.
2. to hold on to those you fear to lose is selfishness instead of mourning, rejoyce for those who are rebirthed.
3. your mind is to clouded by fear, let go of you fears they are only the shadow.
4. all things in visions are but symbols, if you interpret them wrong then you will be wrong,
my mom is great at interpreting dreams and as I said before in another post dreams can be religilous, sub concouise, premonitions of the future, or mean nothing at all.
5. just don't worry about anything bad happining live for the now not the future, the future isn't set in stone.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: CFTraveler on March 31, 2009, 21:39:43
loving the destruction? I was looking more for ways to prevent it
How is maintaining your focus on Unconditional Love & Peace loving the destruction?  It means focus your energy on Love and peace, and stop focusing the attention (energy) on a problem that has been caused by our lack of empathy and feeling of disconnectedness.  The problems humanity faces are basically based on greed and the lust for power, and are so complex that there is no 'one technical way' to solve it.
So instead of focusing our creative energy on saving one part and somehow letting another go south, we need to change how we think so we can stop miscreating.  And how do we stop miscreating?  By focusing on the only thing that can save us- Love and Empathy.

Or, What Awakened_Mind said.   :lol:





Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on April 01, 2009, 00:57:09
I'm not concerned with your emotions. If you want to think positive while you're dying, then okay, watch happily as the napalm eats at your skin, but don't demand that I join you. If you do that, I'll just help you toward your fate and create a better world over your ashes.

But I would prefer that you folks live in a better future and not pollute our world with your corpses. That would be obnoxious. I would rather see you existing as part of a better society than as a potential fossil fuel a million years from now. You don't have to 'die for the cause', you don't have to strain yourself or do anything dangerous, there's no reason to become outraged and bark like cornered animals. All we need is a set of blueprints to follow and avoid the future that you're currently heading toward.

I made this thread because this site has some fairly skilled psychics who can talk to life forms that most people can't, and access information that most can't. This gives us options that could dig us out of this hole more quickly. We're going to solve these problems sooner or later, with or without you, and I would prefer to do it sooner before these problems get deeper and harder to solve.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: iNNERvOYAGER on April 01, 2009, 01:24:11
The problem you might be having is accessing information about parallel universes.

We have to accept the high probability of an infinite number of similar physical realities.

Many people throughout the ages have predicted that the end would occur during their lifetime because it made them feel special.
(as in, "how can the world exist without me?")

I've talked to people years ago who adapted lifestyles according to dreams/visions about the earth erupting into a great fireball with in an immediate time frame and even received a letter once (in the old days before email) that sort of apologized  for the "prediction".

I've had visions years ago of being in a great war where my family stood in the streets of an urban neighborhood and watched vertical lift jets hovering above.
It was so realistic and lucid, as if I was experiencing through another persons eyes.

I could have been seeing the actual events of a parallel existence.

What's new though, humanity has been headed towards doom from day one.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on April 01, 2009, 01:39:39
Not concerned with what you consider the 'end of the world' or whatever, and this is not about parallel universes, and nobody said doom is new


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Awakened_Mind on April 01, 2009, 02:09:50
Then what is it? The way your speaking about the future to begin with is as if we're not approaching it together. You keep using exclusive language like 'your' and 'you'. Is it that you think because 'we' are talking about thinking positive, 'we' don't realize that change is going to take action? That we need actually to do something to avoid the worst possible future?

It really seems like you have your mind stuck on a way of the future. That way for you seems to be death and destruction. Fair enough. Things are probably going to get worse before they get better.

I really like what kurai kokoro said about fire bringing new life. +1 Dude :-)

-AM


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on April 01, 2009, 02:20:55
No actually I'm on your side. I said, very specifically, those who death should receive death. You and kurai should be allowed to receive fire while those who want life receive life.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Awakened_Mind on April 01, 2009, 02:27:48
OK.

-AM


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: iNNERvOYAGER on April 01, 2009, 02:55:22
I want to live in a world that isn't ravaged by your nuclear and biological warfare. Sorry. We just want two different futures.
One thing we can do is to not accept the recent euphemism of "overseas contingency" in place of the reality that is still "Global war on terror"

Sticking our heads in the sand will not make evil fanatics and extremists go away. As technology progresses, smaller groups will have access to greater destructive power.

As long as we experience the duality of this physical earth, we will have to fight evil to prevent returning to the dark ages and loosing any of the good that civilization brings.

After we leave the stage of the earth drama, we should be able to look back and laugh at how cheesy and ridiculous this earth existence can be. 


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stookie on April 01, 2009, 16:22:08
Zareste - could you give us an example of the type of action you're talking about regarding saving the world? Do you mean like political protest or green peace, or whole new ideas, or did I miss the point completely?


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on April 01, 2009, 18:22:51
I'm sorry dude but you are too lost in shadow for me to explain anything further.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Liminalitus on April 09, 2009, 23:41:56
I think some people here are worrying way too much about this type of stuff. It's like the year 2000 all over again. The following destruction was horrible, and so many people were killed. It was horrible, don't you think? Oh, wait.

I hope when 2012 rolls around, for the believers' sake, that something great happens, that we become more spiritually aware. Let's face it, though; there's a 99.99999999999999% chance that nothing will happen. The date is based off a calendar written by a group of people who couldn't predict their own descent to oblivion. Instead of waiting around for a change, why don't we become the change?


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: CFTraveler on April 10, 2009, 16:17:23
Frankly L, that's what I'm afraid of.  I think we're being conditioned by fearmongers into making something happen, and that scares the hell out of me.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on April 13, 2009, 04:21:59
I've asked the question in other forums, and it never fails - everyone gets pretty defensive. Not toward the problem but toward me, and at this point it's just funny to watch. My intention is to give everyone what they want as individuals, so if someone wants death then I'm not going to go out of my way to give them life. That would be malevolent.

So I'd like to discriminate who wants death and who wants life before I put any plans into action. That's why I ask these questions. I have to know what is desired.

I've thought about the planet's problems for years, day and night, tackling them from cultural, biological, and psychological perspectives. It's just something I like to do. I've made telepathic contacts and observed how other cultures have destroyed themselves from planet to planet. It's nothing new here. There's a pattern of cultural death in our galaxy and I would like to find out what's wrong with the life systems.

As for the people in this forum: You're experiencing a conflict in the human problem-solving mechanism. You should see the world's problems and concentrate on solving them, but you don't. The thought of death causes your emotional side to go wild and demand complete control of your mind, paralyzing you with fear, making you irrational. So you've learned to stop thinking about things that scare you, and you get mad at anyone who mentions these things, which makes you a source of uncontrolled malevolence.

The solution is to let your emotions drive your intellect. When you feel threatened, think about the problem and try to understand it more deeply until you start to feel better and more confident. The fear will wear off, and when it shows up again, think about the problem more deeply. Eventually you'll understand it well enough to control it, and won't have to tell yourself to think positive. You don't have to make yourself disposable.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stillwater on April 13, 2009, 05:46:13
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Frankly L, that's what I'm afraid of.  I think we're being conditioned by fearmongers into making something happen, and that scares the hell out of me.

I don't know.... I don't think people can be scared into engendering something of the magnitude that the 2012 crowd speaks of.... but perhaps people will actually take fear-induced action in response to their apprehensions, as they did before y2k, and that truly would be unfortunate.

I think the way to approach things like this is simply to say, "I am going to live my life in the way that makes others and myself most happy, and try to bring love where possible. If this end of the world scenario is true, I will deal with it when it happens- until then, just live my life as always" :wink:


Stillwater


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stookie on April 13, 2009, 20:09:00
I've asked the question in other forums, and it never fails - everyone gets pretty defensive. Not toward the problem but toward me, and at this point it's just funny to watch. My intention is to give everyone what they want as individuals, so if someone wants death then I'm not going to go out of my way to give them life. That would be malevolent.

So I'd like to discriminate who wants death and who wants life before I put any plans into action. That's why I ask these questions. I have to know what is desired.

I've thought about the planet's problems for years, day and night, tackling them from cultural, biological, and psychological perspectives. It's just something I like to do. I've made telepathic contacts and observed how other cultures have destroyed themselves from planet to planet. It's nothing new here. There's a pattern of cultural death in our galaxy and I would like to find out what's wrong with the life systems.

As for the people in this forum: You're experiencing a conflict in the human problem-solving mechanism. You should see the world's problems and concentrate on solving them, but you don't. The thought of death causes your emotional side to go wild and demand complete control of your mind, paralyzing you with fear, making you irrational. So you've learned to stop thinking about things that scare you, and you get mad at anyone who mentions these things, which makes you a source of uncontrolled malevolence.

The solution is to let your emotions drive your intellect. When you feel threatened, think about the problem and try to understand it more deeply until you start to feel better and more confident. The fear will wear off, and when it shows up again, think about the problem more deeply. Eventually you'll understand it well enough to control it, and won't have to tell yourself to think positive. You don't have to make yourself disposable.

What are your plans? You haven't suggested anything yet.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on April 13, 2009, 21:20:00
yeah and besides emotion is not entierly nessecary, fear doesn't ensure your survival it only causes further agony thats why I said "fear is the shadow" it's because it's true, and besides you might be misinterpeting what you are seeing it could be that the truth you see is the illusion and the illusion is the truth you seek. instead of looking for the problemes that may or maynot be the supposed cause of human destruction look no further then yourself, we humans fear what we don't understand and that which we fear we destroy, to elliminate this you must elliminate our fear.

btw what where these other human's tech level at, was it modern?

btw I was right about the world war america is trying now to goto war with china and russia, as I've predicted.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on April 29, 2009, 04:20:02
Many people aspire to "be at peace while the world is in turmoil" because they caused that turmoil and would rather not live with it.  Well, too bad.  What I intend to do is not save anyone from the fate they created for themselves (nobody is going to do that, so just continue trying to feel positive) but find the people who are capable of change, so we can inherit a better future over the ashes of the people who brought death.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on May 06, 2009, 19:29:46
okay this is the last time, the world isn't going to end, okay, the world is just going to go through changes and besides if many people do die, then it is only the beginning, death brings more life through ash, the world isn't going to end for the last time.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on May 06, 2009, 21:25:14
Was there even one person who said the world is going to end? Or are you trying to reassure yourself again


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stookie on May 07, 2009, 17:03:12
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Many people aspire to "be at peace while the world is in turmoil" because they caused that turmoil and would rather not live with it.  Well, too bad.  What I intend to do is not save anyone from the fate they created for themselves (nobody is going to do that, so just continue trying to feel positive) but find the people who are capable of change, so we can inherit a better future over the ashes of the people who brought death.

Why is it that a person who experiences peace in their life not also able to experience compassion and empathy and have the desire to help others and better humanity? Don't you think a person can change the world without a constantly bleeding heart? Those who find peace during turmoil have most likely experienced a lot of pain in their lives.

I don't think there's anyone out there who lives in complete happiness while ignorantly avoiding the problems around them. It's not like there are communes or forests the average joe can escape to. It just doesn't seem feasible.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on May 07, 2009, 17:57:21
A person who 'can' change the world, would, regardless of what their emotions are. But if somebody finds the current turmoil to be peaceful, they're not going to change anything. Why would they? Their urge would be to create more turmoil so they can have more peace.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stookie on May 07, 2009, 19:05:53
Yes, that person is deluded and needs to get their perspective straightened. I don't see how the world's turmoil could be considered "peaceful" or what kind of person would think that. Like a Saddam type maybe?


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on May 07, 2009, 19:14:11
Ah, so we were saying the same thing. What a relief.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: recoverer on May 09, 2009, 00:14:56
Going by the spirit messages I've received, if a minimal number of people get to the point where they can live according to love completely, the World will change for the better. This is because the love they radiate will spark other people to radiate love, and those people will spark other people to radiate love, and so on and so on. When people radiate positive energy, they stop radiating negative energy.  On the action level, they start acting in a positive way rather than a negative way and influence other people accordingly.  It'll become easier for people to contact and live according to their higher self.  The supposed separation between higher realms of being than this World will become less distinct, because the vibratory rate of this World will increase, and perhaps something like portals will be created where love energy can be channeled to this World.

It is good to worry about the World if it inspires you to make the changes you need to make in order to make a positive contribution; but if you wallow in worry, you end up sharing negative energy rather than positive energy and you don't help make things better. On a related note, if you don't like what a World leader is doing don't have negative thoughts and feelings about this leader because you'll end up sending he or she negative energy rather than positive energy.

I don't know what's going to happen with 2012 or friendly aliens coming to this World, but I believe it is a mistake to place so much hope on such events, that we forget to do what "we" need to do to make this World a better place.

Recently I received a message stating: "Perhaps they (aliens?) can help us clean the environment, but it is up to us to take care of the rest.

Whatever the case, I'm happy to see that people care. :-)


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on May 09, 2009, 02:14:56
A lot of humanoids are a part of the problem and equally a threat to deal with. Many of them have destroyed their own planets through their own wars and pollution, leaving those planets in a condition similar to Mars right now. Now these conflicts have carried over to this planet, and Earth's problems will not be solved if humanity is scapegoated.

Secondly, we have people who love death, love torment, and love the people who cause it. They cannot coexist with people who love order.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on June 03, 2009, 09:35:07
you know the one thing I've noticed in the bible is tho peace may exist hatred and sorrow would also exist don't you see it's the stars and planets that determin who we are, that is also how life is created the stars are in a certain position when forming and feed on each others radiation , however what ever particles are not used form what would become planets and moons, eventually when the stars separate they get bigger and some planets like gas giants form and returns radiation to the sun and feeds off of that; gets bigger: forms more planets which if destroyed become asteroids, you'll note when they announced an asteroid the size of a dwarf planet, it was destroyed by an asteroid and was once a planet similar to earth the earth will be next if no one learns to live together, the nuclear bomb is what is changing our trajectory towards the asteroid belt, every presice location there has been a nuke explosion was chosen for a reason, because they moved us in a certain part of our orbit in world war II occurred it was cooler then it is today and after a few more years it ((could)) get hotter.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Everlasting on June 04, 2009, 02:29:24
The Earth don't need to be saved, when it gets to bad she will just shake us off her back.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Xanth on June 23, 2009, 21:29:16
The Earth don't need to be saved, when it gets to bad she will just shake us off her back.
That's probably closer to the truth than any government wants us to know.  LoL


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on July 16, 2009, 22:05:17
I never said the earth needed saving i was mearly applying that something big may yet happin. (besides my emotions are starting to get in the way again.)


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Astralaina on July 26, 2009, 16:14:42
My opinion is, to save to world, we need to wake up.
Read this, all of it: http://www.illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm#1

What do I think of the entire 2012 discussion?
I don't think the earth will be destroyed, I expect 2 things to happen. The first scenerio that could happen, the worst case, is the illuminati succeeding in their plans to control the whole world. The second, is the one I hope will happen. Everyone finally opens their eyes to see the truth about the "government"! Then finally, we can truly be free.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Xanth on July 27, 2009, 15:46:37
Let's just put it this way...

Humanity will live on.
Humanity will *ALWAYS* live on.
It doesn't matter what happens in 2012, in one form or another... we'll always be here.  :)


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: loppoppy on August 02, 2009, 06:05:00
i'm drunk, it's late, and i've just read this thread.

Zareste,  :roll: bless your cotton socks. "Who wants to live? who wants to die? i shall grant your wishes. It is I who will give individuals what they want, be it life or DEATH! DEATH DEATH DEATH, I FORSEEE DEAAAAAAAAAAAATH. Me Me Me. I have a plan, but i won't tell you what it is  :wink: . if you have enough time to be thinking about peace and love your not thinking enough about the inevitable DOOM, DEATH, DESTRUCTION, PAIN because you are all afraid of it and blah blah blah more random assumptions about people i don't know etc etc. They are YOUR nuclear warheads and YOUR destruction!! I won't include myself in all of this because i have a supremely large ego which can not fit inside my head alongside my delusions of grandeur, loosely based assumptions and obsession with the horrors OF DOOM. People aspire to peace because they can not live with the turmoil they created, yes! this is true because i just said so! i am on a mission to find those who are capable of change and will build a new world upon the ashes of those who brought death!! raaaaaaaaaaar!"

haha honestly, does this guy know what he's on? who does he think he is? mmm
I understand that a number of people have tried to chill this fellah out with very intellectual, well balanced, logical and appropriately detached views, only to have them thrown back in their face with comments like "watch happily as the napalm eats off your skin".....honestly...what a douche. It's like this fool is blind to all the light in this world, and is immersed only in the darkness, quite annoying really. Sure he may mean well, but he couldn't be going about it in a darker way even if he tried, that's not helping anyone..and it's very rude :).

I might get a few of my hard earned karma points whittled away due to my lack of intelligent or respectable reply, but at this point i'm not too fussed. The rest of you are far too decent and respectable to mock and ridicule a mans standpoint, no matter how stupid it is, but i'm not  :-P This morning marks the morning i found the most dense and foolhardy of them all. From start to finish, he totally misunderstood what was being said to him, added insult to injury and continued to annoy and unimpress until people replying just gave up and said "OK" (a direct quote from Awakened_Mind  :wink: ) so OK Z, OK :)


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Slix on August 03, 2009, 03:34:44
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Secondly, we have people who love death, love torment, and love the people who cause it. They cannot coexist with people who love order.

Agreed, however how would one go about removing such a cancerous attitude from society without giving these people exactly what they're looking for or even worse, inadvertently moving peoples personalities towards such a state? If you were to exact justice or retribution upon a gang member (through imprisonment or otherwise) surely his cohorts and any close friends would respond to it through more death, torment, deception or negative thoughts that could eventually lead to such acts?

This 'disorder' attitude cannot be eliminated through actions that you would associate with disorder, they would only serve to create or enhance this negative attitude, disorder only creates more disorder. I imagine it would be almost impossible to turn someone from such a negative attitude through acts that would be considered belonging to that of order, most would shun it and laugh, or ignore it completely, but it at least has a chance. Thermodynamically, particles in the universe move towards a state of greater entropy (more disorder), and it usually takes a great deal of energy to move these particles towards a more ordered state, it's quite probable that these attitudes are manipulated the same way.

I guess the thing thats holding most people who love order back from acting as such is possible fear of being ridiculed or pressured by people who love disorder. I imagine some high tensions between some countries with bad pasts (not mentioning any countries in specific of course... *cough* US *cough* Russia *cough*) could easily be laid to rest if only their repective leaders had the guts to trust each other. But alas, with a world with an unknown percentile of these negative people in the populous i suppose you cant really expect anyone to trust anyone else without 'really' getting to know them first... ...pity.

the truth of it is, it's highly unlikely that we'll ever rid the world of these negative people, we can only hope to calm them and attempt to persuade younger generations to be in favour of order.

you want to know how to save the world? so do i.  :|

you think you know how to save the world? i hope you've had a good, long, and hard think about it.


*grabs fingers and screams in pain*


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: CFTraveler on August 03, 2009, 17:48:21
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I might get a few of my hard earned karma points whittled away due to my lack of intelligent or respectable reply,
I gave you one.  It made me smile.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: loppoppy on August 03, 2009, 18:08:34
i'm glad to have brought amusement and happiness :)

and my apologies to zareste for the nature of my opinion sharing. I hope you do not take TOO much offence.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on September 30, 2009, 05:10:30
you all do realize that chaos was here before order? at least in the physical world and besides if i was to choose weather or not chaos exists i would choose to let chaos exist, that way there would be order fore with out chaos there is no order, because with out one or the other there isn't free will, and i'd rather die then not be alowed the freedom to choose.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: mystickaljourney on November 18, 2009, 08:03:24
to save the globe is to awake your ignorance.... --- talisay cebu .... lol lol lol hahah hehehe


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Leannain on November 22, 2009, 19:36:06
A person who 'can' change the world, would, regardless of what their emotions are. But if somebody finds the current turmoil to be peaceful, they're not going to change anything. Why would they? Their urge would be to create more turmoil so they can have more peace.

is that so? Why would someone who can, change the world, only for the fact that he can? I've had the "chance" of changing the world of people for the better but I didn't. Why? Because what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Now, if Mankind was to face a threat from out of this world; surely I would participate in it but, I'd do it for the chance of entering the halls of History like Alexander The Great, Genghis Khan, Napoleon Bonaparte etc. Indeed. They aren't saints or Buddha: they are what I aspire to be. A victory of the ego over matter and over Spirituality.

However, if I the chance to change the world was to offer itself to me, without the possibility of achieving my goal : I wouldn't change it,I wouldn't help it. I'd sit back and watch it unveil like that "crazy" dude from the 2012 Hollywood movie who was located on a mountain observing the beautiful happenings  :-).


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: thirdeye26 on January 02, 2010, 16:09:23
I seriously feel that there is a higher power taking care of the earth. I also feel that there is nothing much we can do about wars and mass violence. We can only focus on ourselves and how we live; and that is it. As for destruction, so far there was no birth without death; no creation without destruction. There are two sides to the coin; and I believe we should accept both calmly.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on January 22, 2010, 22:11:26
the world can take care of herself, she has been sence before we where here stop saying that the world needs saving cause even when we are gone she will continue to take care of her self. you understand now?


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on January 23, 2010, 10:36:52
Life on a planet is part of the planet. Pretty simple


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: thirdeye26 on February 09, 2010, 16:44:00
The only way we can save the world is to take good care of ourselves. Imagine..if everybody takes care of him or herself, this will be a wonderful world. :)


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Stookie on February 09, 2010, 20:20:06
Agreed :) And take care of others who need help.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on February 12, 2010, 03:30:20
if i could id eat the sins of man and drown the world in my holy blood and suffer 777thousand fold for all mankind in hope to bring a thousand years of peace but alas i am not holy enough


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: lee46 on February 15, 2010, 01:48:53
zareste, two days ago I watched a documentary called "Kymatica" (you can watch it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkbvJFEQgJU) I think this documentary fits almost exactly as what has been said to you in this post, it made me cry at some point to see how cruel humans can be, but also to realize we are ALL part of it and what you can do to help is be responsible of your own actions/thoughts. Hope you like it and that it could helpful for you  :-)



Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on February 15, 2010, 03:36:15
Videos can be shocking and all, but usually the person watching is part of the problem


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: lee46 on February 15, 2010, 04:58:52
sorry, what do you mean? as in getting involved with what's shown in it?


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: vladjackguy on February 16, 2010, 21:05:05
How to save the world?The problem is in the question itself.
kailaurius said it all good at the start of the topic, it depends how do you understand those words.

First of all the world isn't going to end.Archangel Michael told us that we have chosen that we take on the peacefull, but hard and slow way on the way of ascension.That means the Armmageddon isn't going to happen.

How to prevent the end of the world it isn't your concern, your concern should be how to raise your vibrations, ascend and help others.The forces of light are dealing with the forces of evil and we are very close to disclosure.

You should see that all is one.And unconditional pure love and light is the key.



Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on February 16, 2010, 22:46:26
You've pretty much stated every bad response in the thread using a few paragraphs. All you really had to do was say "kill em all" and we'd have gotten the point


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: kurai kokoro on February 17, 2010, 19:05:04
okay sence i have no clue whos talking to who any more i have lost all possible interest in this topic


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: lonecrow66 on March 10, 2010, 18:28:38
Zareste,
If we consider how long humans have worked with the mindset of Might is Right, we can see that this is a demise time for that operating condition. Which also tells us that it is now perfect for the times we are in. It also tells us something far more important, which is, the mindset needs to come to its own conclusion. If we end or change it before we are finished with the full experience of it, then we are inviting it to return at some time in humanity's future in order to finish it off.

For now we are Seed Planters for Humanity's future. Anything being birthed into the world will come with birthing pains, which is the end of the Old. We are past being able to do anything to change its path, so rejoice now in knowing the way we live on this world will soon reach its climax and our true work will begin in creating what comes after. Let us choose equality and understanding for all. Now, let us know this a is perfect and necessary, despite anyone's emotive judgements about it.

At this time we are meant to be find Equanimity, being able to see what is happening in the world and not being effected by any of, staying instead calm and centered. We are meant to be letting go of our issues, our needs and desires in order to become clear and aware.


I agree we are all seed planters.  But there is more than one way to change things.  The same people and families are in control who were in control thousands of years ago.  It is a very very deep network of elite people who control everything from the money to the air we breath.   THIS SOCIETY is the fruit of their labor.  We can not change things until they are EXPOSED and removed.   Once that happens I think society is ripe for a new way of thinking. 

Sometimes the only way to effect change is to slap someone and tell them to wake up.. and SHOCK them into changing.  Put a giant mirror in front of their faces and let them see it. 

The grass root peaceful movement will never work.  People are all followers and sheep, who need to be TOLD what to think and do.  They won't do it on their own unless they are programmed into it or driven to it.  Most people are driven by fear and thus we have a fear based society.  Fear of consequences and fear of loss. 

The current people in charge of this planet need to be removed and the tree must be shaken.  There must be new philisophically and religiously moral leaders put in place to will change things. 

I personally believe drastic things must be done to make this happen, while not necessarily violent but it will take exposing them for what they are and THAT is the way.  Not the love and peace way.  It was tried in the 60's and it FAILED PERIOD. 


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: Synune on March 16, 2010, 00:47:41
Any thoughts on rescuing Earth from certain doom? Here I'm talking about the cultural conflicts and wars that are about to kill us, not only the natural disasters to come. We've all seen the warnings. I've personally had two entities intervene and tell me Earth - particularly the US and Europe - are headed toward doom for a multitude of reasons.

What can be done?

I'll be here in 2013 laughing honestly.


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: zareste on March 16, 2010, 01:27:55
you thought this was a 2012 thread? Interesting


Title: Re: how to save the world
Post by: XxGuardianKnightxX on March 16, 2010, 20:50:02
Really not so sure about this whole 2012 thing. It makes me very scared, and I wish I could save the world if something horrible is about to happen. My mom would always tell me "if it triggers your sense of fear, it is probably not true," because she is an adherent of the Science of Mind/Religious Science, which believes all truth feels good...I doubt that.

All I know is I want the fear to end, and I'm sorry if I didn't contribute much at all to your conversation.