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Title: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Contenteo on April 24, 2011, 04:14:03
I have spent a good couple hours researching the fate of Frank Kepple.

What a shame for someone so integral to disappear so suddenly and oddly.

Its funny, 3 weeks ago, I was as skeptical as they come when discussing about other dimensions that whatnot.

But I can't help but feel that it was an intervention from some source. I mean he was leading achieving his purpose in life. I can't believe in his last days of what appears to be hours of writing July 17th, he would go cold turkey. Only in his last days to come back at act so...not like Frank(search his name and feel that one out for yourself.   I mean he wrote pages on that last day, check it out(cite:Franks posts sticky, look at dates, Xanth)  But, for a man of who appealed to logic and patterns and what seems honor, by devoting himself to helping others, that is not how one leaves their spiritual home.

From that my deduction is one of two things:
1. Some sort of value proposition(a logical offer) came about or
2. Debilitating Death

Although, what plagues me, I did extensive research and find no obituary or for that matter professional existence of the man at all.

Are we sure that Frank(Francis) Kepple was even his real name?

On the value proposition side, we can only speculate:
- Legal blackmail from somewhere
- Consideration of some sort to be quiet and vanish
- Government Job offer
- My fav- Found out a truth and was "convinced" to lead his life elsewhere.

Again, I am as skeptical as the next man, I was trained to be as an accountant.

Anyway, I got some questions, and would love to hear all your opinions and any other facts you might have come across. If you can please cite, It helps.


Was he definitely in Nice, France?
Is his wife still around, I know he talked about her in the posts quote a bit? or for that matter he had a secretary too.
Again, are we sure that Frank(Francis) Kepple was even his real name?


Always searching for the truth,
Contenteo


-Props and thanks to Xanth again for posting all his posts in one spot. This whole community owes you for the time you spent doing that.

cite 1
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/lost_to_the_ages_monroemuldooncastanadaleadbeater-t19639.0.html;msg170037#msg170037 (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/lost_to_the_ages_monroemuldooncastanadaleadbeater-t19639.0.html;msg170037#msg170037)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on April 24, 2011, 04:16:08
worm food.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on April 24, 2011, 05:08:20
worm food.
^ This is the most "likely" answer.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Bedeekin on April 24, 2011, 05:18:41
Hi Xanth.

Quite sad...

Is this him? I think it's from 2005... some sort of write-up for a book caller "Our Ultimate Reality":

This is a book that can change your life, no doubt about it. It's a goldmine of information that would be a bargain at many times the price. The book takes you by the hand and walks you through the world of spiritual knowledge, from ancient history through to present day.
 
The book is extensive, it runs to nearly 700 pages in all, but the layout is very easy to follow and a web-forum is available if additional help is needed. For those wishing for a wide-ranging overview of spiritual knowledge AND some highly effective modern-day methods and techniques, together with all manner of hints, tips and pointers to help you set off on your very own spiritual journey, then I would highly recommend this book.
 
Frank J. Kepple, Consultant Engineer (retired)
Nice, France




Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on April 24, 2011, 05:23:49
Heya Bedeekin, welcome aboard.  :)

Yup, that's a quote from Frank written for Adrian's book, "Our Ultimate Reality".


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Bedeekin on April 24, 2011, 05:25:57
Gotcha!!

Good book?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on April 24, 2011, 07:37:04
Quote
From that my deduction is one of two things:
1. Some sort of value proposition(a logical offer) came about or
2. Debilitating Death

Ha... yeah, death generally is somewhat debilitating, at least as far as your worldly projects are concerned.

I think my stamp collection may suffer somewhat when I pass.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Pauli2 on April 24, 2011, 11:42:22
Go astral!

Find him!


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Greytraveller on April 24, 2011, 20:52:28
Hall everybody

First off a special greeting to Bedeekin.  :-)

Second. IMO the best way to track down Frank Kepple is to contact the people who knew him. Did Adrian or any of the other mods have any type of extensive written pm/email contact with him back in the period 2003-2006?
How about a web search (or did Contenteo already do that?)
Surely Somebody must have exchanged emails or pms with him back in the day.

Regards  8-)
Grey


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on April 24, 2011, 21:41:03
I don't know if anyone is going to find Frank by now, lol.

This is literally like the great mystey of Astralpulse, it has been going on and discussed for years and years, like who stole the Klopman diamond or something. It started back up in earnest when Xanth published his posts, and more people got to know who he was, but I don't see this ever getting resolved.

I think it comes down to either he can't be found, or he doesn't want to be found.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Pauli2 on April 24, 2011, 23:10:33
I wonder if people have such great problems finding Frank in the astral because it's not beneficial for the development of their souls?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on April 25, 2011, 01:48:10
I wonder if people have such great problems finding Frank in the astral because it's not beneficial for the development of their souls?
Or perhaps it just, straight up, doesn't matter in even the slightest?  :)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on April 25, 2011, 03:24:19
wouldn't the simplest answer be that the astral and the after-life are not the same thing and and don't intersect at any point?

or maybe when we die that's it.  lights out.  there is no astral for us.  just oblivion.

or maybe he's not dead.





Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on April 25, 2011, 11:41:19
Don't speak too soon ^^

I have actually seen him in an experience where I went to a beach with a pyramid. The character I met looked like him and he was playing with prisms...either I stumbled upon his API construct and met his unconscious self while he is still very much alive in the physical...

OR...

The minute I had stumbled upon that pyramid, my unconscious mind made an association with astral pulse and Frank Kepple and I created him there.

You can still see people in the OOBE-state whether they are alive or dead. It doesn't matter.

On the afterlife note...I've been reading The Tibetan Book of the Dead and it appears that the afterlife, according to Buddhist philosophy, is very much like the OOBE-state and dream-states. Very much so! The comparison is undeniable.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on April 25, 2011, 15:04:32
Yeah, you'd really have to gather some person experiences talking to the guy while in the non-physical.  Then see if any he says lines up with anything that isn't already known.  That would be the tricky part.

It's like when Frank spoke about meeting someone on a journey that looked and sounded entirely like Robert Monroe, he wasn't willing to say that it was definitely him, because he didn't have enough information to make that judgment call.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on April 25, 2011, 17:34:21
On the afterlife note...I've been reading The Tibetan Book of the Dead and it appears that the afterlife, according to Buddhist philosophy, is very much like the OOBE-state and dream-states. Very much so! The comparison is undeniable.

Have you read the Egyptian "Pyramid Texts".  Some say that these too are a treatise on projection.  Naturally, modern egyptologists say it's just about the after-life because they can't cope with the idea that maybe egyptians were more evolved than us psychologically.  But when taken as an account of projection it makes a lot of sense.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on April 25, 2011, 17:39:08
Have you read the Egyptian "Pyramid Texts".  Some say that these too are a treatise on projection.  Naturally, modern egyptologists say it's just about the after-life because they can't cope with the idea that maybe egyptians were more evolved than us psychologically.  But when taken as an account of projection it makes a lot of sense.
I never thought of that.

The idea that archeologists would "translate" things based around their own understandings and beliefs.  They wouldn't take into consideration the idea of Astral Projection, would they?  Very interesting...


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: CFTraveler on April 25, 2011, 18:21:41
If you ever want to read "The Unanswered Question" by Kurt Leland, he takes translations from the Egyptian Book of the Dead and makes some comparisons to the Tibetan book of the Dead  and then compares it to OBE theory and NDE theory and it's very interesting, if you're into this kind of thing (I am).



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lexy on April 30, 2011, 02:01:00
Last I heard of Frank is that he had a terrible tooth infection for some time & was in a lot of pain..it is possible he went into a coma. That would explain no death certificate or obituary.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on April 30, 2011, 10:37:49
Have you read the Egyptian "Pyramid Texts".  Some say that these too are a treatise on projection.  Naturally, modern egyptologists say it's just about the after-life because they can't cope with the idea that maybe egyptians were more evolved than us psychologically.  But when taken as an account of projection it makes a lot of sense.

8-)

I'll have to check that out.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Volgerle on April 30, 2011, 13:41:32
Have you read the Egyptian "Pyramid Texts".  Some say that these too are a treatise on projection.  Naturally, modern egyptologists say it's just about the after-life because they can't cope with the idea that maybe egyptians were more evolved than us psychologically.  But when taken as an account of projection it makes a lot of sense.
do you know which chapter? (just too lazy to do some search of my own  :wink:)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on April 30, 2011, 14:58:09
it's not so much of a practical technique as it is a description of the process.

any section that is about the "king in the afterlife" could possibly be thought of as description of projection.  modern egyptologists say that it is just about egyptian beliefs in an afterlife, but the story itself could just as easily be about projection.  i know it's long, but i would read the whole thing.  i read it when i was like 17 or 18 (7-8 years ago) and i feel like reading the whole thing was the way to go.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Mindfulness on May 01, 2011, 17:57:05
What a shame Frank is gone.  I just finished reading that giant compendium of posts and would love to see how he continued making progress through focus 4.  Something about his posts just came off as genuine and I think there is truth in a lot of what he said.  It's also interesting to see how his own thinking evolved from the begining to the end.  How sad he never got to finish his book and teach more people how to phase.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Bedeekin on May 01, 2011, 20:06:14
He ascended.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 01, 2011, 20:17:49
Ascended to where? :?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Bedeekin on May 01, 2011, 20:27:20
I don't know... I just threw in a post because I was bored.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 01, 2011, 20:33:00
Bored was I because post a in threw just I...know don't I.



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on May 01, 2011, 23:13:30
He Ascended...

C'mon folks, hasn't anyone seen Stargate SG1 here?!  Obviously, he's now an omnipotent being unable to meddle in the affairs of mankind.  :)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 02, 2011, 03:26:57
don't you ever taint the good name of stargate by associating it with frank kepple.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Contenteo on May 02, 2011, 04:27:44
Don't you ever taint the name of Frank Kepple by associating it with Stargate


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: kurtykurt42 on May 02, 2011, 10:22:29
don't you ever taint the good name of stargate by associating it with frank kepple.

Agreed.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on May 02, 2011, 14:20:26
LoL


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 02, 2011, 15:55:47
Don't you ever taint the name of Frank Kepple by associating it with Stargate

you are dead to me.

lol


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: U.MONK on May 10, 2011, 20:39:42
"Hello guys, and sorry for bringing this post back.."

What can I say? I first heard about Frank Kepple a few days ago, I read a lot of his work, I liked the way he broke down the different phases in an easy to understand way, however after all that excitement, I started to read negative posts about him… and how he "ran of" with peoples money.

This didn’t stop me attempting his method (why should it? Not like it takes any of my time since I do it before sleeping, and besides his method came across as sound).

So I thought I would give it a go, and here’s what happened.

•   I closed my eyes thinking about chewing gum and playing the drums, using all my senses in doing so.

•   Sometime after I lost consciousness. (due to lack of focus)

•   Consciousness was regained when all of a sudden to my surprise I saw the MOST realistic hypnagogic imagery of a red car driving down a country lane, I could see the driver and the passenger as they got closer, I was shocked at the realism! This is the first time I had ever seen hypnagogic imagery and it lasted for about 5 seconds, it was as if I was watching a realistic movie, anyways this exicited me so much I had to open my eyes (I know..)

•   Upon opening my eyes, I entered sleep paralysis…. I get sleep paralysis from time to time so this wasn’t anything major.. im still trying to project from SP (ive only managed to do direct projections upon awakening in the mornings).

So, why did I see a car instead of a set of drums? I can only conclude that when  I lost consciousness my thoughts at some point stopped focusing on the drums and started focusing on a car instead.
Despite whether Frank is legit, or a (insert negative remark here), I want to thank the dude for his method, not only did it give me 1 chance to OBE in a session, but because I had sleep paralysis right after it gave me two chances.

Also it introduced my consciousness system to hypnagogic imagery, so no doubt now that ive conciously experienced them once, I will experience them again.
I will continue with his method… I only signed up because I was shocked his method produced good results after 1 LAZY attempt; hope this helps some people….

P.S i also want to thank a Mr......Xanth. i think his name is, i was reading a compilation of franks methods put together by Xanth before i began my attempt (thats how i got the idea for drums and chewing gum).



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 10, 2011, 20:59:46
Kepple's model also seems to resonate with my experiences. I think he had a good way of looking at things.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lexy on May 11, 2011, 00:37:50
I don't believe he ran off with peoples money because he could have made so much more money. He could have charged more too. At that time he had so many devotees. He was just beginning with the classes, he had the potential to make a lot more money. I understand people being mad after paying money but there were ways to go through paypal & get your money back.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 12, 2011, 16:37:18
I don't believe he ran off with peoples money because he could have made so much more money. He could have charged more too. At that time he had so many devotees. He was just beginning with the classes, he had the potential to make a lot more money. I understand people being mad after paying money but there were ways to go through paypal & get your money back.

he may have been a degenerate alcoholic and compulsive gambler.  these people don't typically commit to anything long term, so it would make sense that he "took the money and ran".

that is a completely unfounded statement based entirely on rumor though.  i have no evidence that it is true.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lexy on May 13, 2011, 05:53:11
he may have been a degenerate alcoholic and compulsive gambler.  these people don't typically commit to anything long term, so it would make sense that he "took the money and ran".

that is a completely unfounded statement based entirely on rumor though.  i have no evidence that it is true.

Frank never did drugs & he rarely drank. He did not approve of gambling. Plus he wrote long posts on this forum for years, that takes up a lot of time. Gamblers/addicts don't have much time for anything but their addiction. People start a lot of rumors out of bitterness, envy & rejection.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 13, 2011, 10:05:23
I wholeheartedly agree with that...^^^

Besides, his Wider Reality description (putting aside his beliefs and interpretations) appear genuine to me. Everything! The "helping" work which I have done before I even heard of him, his description of Focus 1 oC Projections, the metaphysical realm where what appears to be the worlds of others is less liable to manipulation than your own belief system constructs, the "Astral Mud" concept where the religious wrap themselves around their beliefs etc. etc.

All of this resonates true with me because I have experienced strikingly similar things (apart from Focus 4 - although on one occasion I think this was about to ensue). I'm pretty convinced that man was projecting and documenting his experiences. If he was drinking and lying he seems to have selected the right stuff in order to sound convincing and this just doesn't seem feasible to me. If he didn't project, he'd have to do a hell of a research and sort the facts from the rubbish...and the question is...how would he be able to do that if he didn't have some sort of experience with OOBEs?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Pauli2 on May 13, 2011, 10:18:33
I'm pretty convinced that man was projecting and documenting his experiences.

Projecting (or phasing) - perhaps. But documenting his experiences? No, probably not.

I'm currently on page 470 of the Frank PDF and so far, Frank has written very few experiences
of his own. Those few Frank experiences I've found so far, are very short and incomplete
in amount of details.

It's strikingly.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 13, 2011, 14:51:36
Frank never did drugs & he rarely drank. He did not approve of gambling. Plus he wrote long posts on this forum for years, that takes up a lot of time. Gamblers/addicts don't have much time for anything but their addiction. People start a lot of rumors out of bitterness, envy & rejection.

that was a joke first of all, i really don't know anything about Frank's personal life at all. 

second of all, i wrote two books while i was an addict.  i produced 3 albums, painted numerous pictures, went to college (and did exceptionally well), and a whole host of other accomplishments including much spiritual growth and development.  addicts are very good at maintaining their addiction and keeping a happy face for the rest of the world to see.  it's only those closest to an addict that really see what's going on.  so.....yea.

just saying.



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 13, 2011, 14:54:55
Ok, perhaps he was really projecting and his Wider Reality is a genuine account of how he looked at the phenomenon and somewhere along the way he decided to take all of you for mugs in order to feed his addictions if indeed that was the case.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stookie_ on May 13, 2011, 17:02:31
If anything, he made a name for himself. It's 7 years down the line and we're still talking about him.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 13, 2011, 18:12:55
And not just here. He has been talked about in Astral Viewers, Spiritual Forums and perhaps other Forums too! In AVers, there was once a sticky dedicated to him and his Wider Reality Model. that's how much of an impact the guy had in "Astral Projection" Communities.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Bedeekin on May 13, 2011, 20:24:55
that was a joke first of all, i really don't know anything about Frank's personal life at all. 

second of all, i wrote two books while i was an addict.  i produced 3 albums, painted numerous pictures, went to college (and did exceptionally well), and a whole host of other accomplishments including much spiritual growth and development.  addicts are very good at maintaining their addiction and keeping a happy face for the rest of the world to see.  it's only those closest to an addict that really see what's going on.  so.....yea.

Cool... what books did you write... What albums did you produce.. are you a producer?

anyway... what's with the rumour mill thing? Was he a drug addict?



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 13, 2011, 21:30:03
i didn't write or make anything that was publicly circulated.  just part of my private collection.

the first book was called "A Bathtub Full of Consciousness" and the other was called "Reality Bubbles".  they were mostly about human perception as related to the metaphysical observer that we like to call "the self" or "the higher self".

My albums were unfortunately lost.  I didn't back them up and my computer crashed  :cry:.  It was crushing.  I put a lot of work into them.   There are a few cds floating around some of my friends, but they haven't been able to find them for me to make copies of. 

But yes, I am a producer,  you can download my new album here:

mrcosmos.bandcamp.com (http://mrcosmos.bandcamp.com)

you can download it for free, you just need to set your own price at $0


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: AstralBlogger on May 14, 2011, 00:46:29
I checked out your website Personalreality the music is very well done I look forward to hearing more

 :-D


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lexy on May 14, 2011, 05:40:16
that was a joke first of all, i really don't know anything about Frank's personal life at all. 

second of all, i wrote two books while i was an addict.  i produced 3 albums, painted numerous pictures, went to college (and did exceptionally well), and a whole host of other accomplishments including much spiritual growth and development.  addicts are very good at maintaining their addiction and keeping a happy face for the rest of the world to see.  it's only those closest to an addict that really see what's going on.  so.....yea.

just saying.



But did you do all of that while also gambling? True gamblers that also have a drug problem find it very difficult to maintain a facade. I know professional gamblers & it's worse than drug addiction if you ask me, nothing stops them. I think it's in really bad taste to discredit someone jokingly when other people can take you seriously, that is how vicious rumors get started. 


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 10:23:16
Innocent until declared guilty.

 :-D


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Bedeekin on May 14, 2011, 14:07:35
i didn't write or make anything that was publicly circulated.  just part of my private collection.

the first book was called "A Bathtub Full of Consciousness" and the other was called "Reality Bubbles".  they were mostly about human perception as related to the metaphysical observer that we like to call "the self" or "the higher self".

My albums were unfortunately lost.  I didn't back them up and my computer crashed  :cry:.  It was crushing.  I put a lot of work into them.   There are a few cds floating around some of my friends, but they haven't been able to find them for me to make copies of. 

But yes, I am a producer,  you can download my new album here:

mrcosmos.bandcamp.com (http://mrcosmos.bandcamp.com)

you can download it for free, you just need to set your own price at $0

Nice one.

I've lost things I worked hard on... it's devestating. But you just pick yourself up and start again.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 14:13:50
But did you do all of that while also gambling? True gamblers that also have a drug problem find it very difficult to maintain a facade. I know professional gamblers & it's worse than drug addiction if you ask me, nothing stops them. I think it's in really bad taste to discredit someone jokingly when other people can take you seriously, that is how vicious rumors get started. 


calm down.

as far as we're concerned, frank is gone, he's never coming back and for all intents and purposes there is no frank, only an abstract concept we call "frank".  what that really represents isn't even a person, it's a collection of teachings.  it's like me saying that the buddha was a womanizer.  no one alive today ever knew the buddha, the only thing we have of him (if he ever existed) is a collection of teachings, an abstract sense of "who he was" based on what we've read.  same thing.  so really, i'm not even talking about frank kepple because i didn't know him, he was gone long before i came here.  i'm making fun of "saint frank" that has taken on some kind of martyr status almost around here.  all i know of him is that people need to get off his willy.



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 14:14:19
thanks astralblogger and bedeekin.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 14:52:29
Look...Frank was a delusion...a hallucination...a fantasy. This is Frank:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_b10vSxp_9K0/TTHvoDb-LiI/AAAAAAAAA5k/2PVLcfMzYz8/s1600/cute_rabbits_03.jpg)



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 14:57:00
that's my power animal, and she never said her name was frank.

lol


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 15:06:30
Oh, ok...my apologies... :-D

This dude is Frank:

(http://donniedarkocostumes.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Donnie-Darko-Frank-The-Bunny-Mask1.jpg)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 15:06:59
true dat


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: skiax on May 14, 2011, 15:10:28
Is this something for the late Joseph Campbell? How is it that in the timespan of a decade or so, this fellow, in the estimation of some, has taken on mythical proportions? How does one go from being a neat fellow who gladly shared his experiences to being almost sacred? Am I exaggerating this? Why am I asking so many questions and not making any statements? :wink:


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 15:12:07
no you're not exaggerating.

that was the point i was making a couple posts back.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: skiax on May 14, 2011, 15:36:03
Ya, P.R., but I'm asking YOU because of your education, to offer informed speculation as to why some personality types so readily do this? I'd really enjoy your take on it. To me, it's fascinating. BTW, "get off his willy", very nice. Interesting imagery.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 15:39:02
I am a little hesitant to say anything.  I've been trying to express this sentiment for the better part of a year on this forum.  But many of the people that I consider friends on this board are still very much Frankites and I don't wanna start talking about why they're pathological for being so.

Let me think of a nice way to say it and i'll get back to you, lol.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: skiax on May 14, 2011, 15:41:11
 :wink:


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on May 14, 2011, 15:50:48
Frank was a human being... I'm confused by this talk of him being some "sacred" being.
What the hell is wrong with you people?  O_o  LoL


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 15:58:58
see jim.

defensive.

denial.

lol.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 16:03:02
He was just human. He had his own views. But like I said...how he describes his Wider Reality tallies with what I've experienced before I even heard of him. On the other hand...perhaps he just studied Robert Monroe's view and copied them...or developed/simplified them. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm fairly new here anyway. By the time I heard of him, he'd already gone missing.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Pauli2 on May 14, 2011, 16:05:29
Frank was a human being... I'm confused by this talk of him being some "sacred" being.
What the hell is wrong with you people?  O_o  LoL

Well...

My review on the Newsletters didn't exactly fall in your taste.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 16:19:50
What Newsletters?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 16:21:28
frank put out a few newsletters before he fell off the face of the earth, i think there is a link to them somewhere on this forum, maybe permanent topics?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 16:25:44
What was in them that is so significant. What stuck out to you which you feel relates to his disappearance? There must be something you find suspicious otherwise you wouldn't mention the Newsletters. What was it?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 16:31:32
here's the first issue

http://www.imged.org/72/issue1_21_may_2005.txt (http://www.imged.org/72/issue1_21_may_2005.txt)

i'm having trouble finding more

found more

http://www.imged.org/72/issue2_15_june_2005.txt (http://www.imged.org/72/issue2_15_june_2005.txt)
http://www.imged.org/72/issue3_01_july_2005.txt (http://www.imged.org/72/issue3_01_july_2005.txt)
http://www.imged.org/72/issue4_16_july_2005.txt (http://www.imged.org/72/issue4_16_july_2005.txt)

seems like four was it


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Pauli2 on May 14, 2011, 16:42:05
What Newsletters?

It was the review that became a sore toe:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/frank_kepple_astral_projection_truth_newsletter-t32536.0.html


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 16:45:33
ok... :roll:

So what is so wrong with that? He talks about the virtual class, then he mentions his Wider Reality model and shares his thoughts.

I also found this:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/frank_kepple_astral_projection_truth_newsletter-t32536.0.html

And it seems like Pauli2 simply doesn't like Frank's "attack" on mysticism and religion. I personally agree with Frank that you don't need to hold religious beliefs or put the phase phenomenon in that category. To me, the OOBE phenomena is more natural than magical.

Also, the not in the body therefore not out of the body concept. Pauli2 seems to have had a hard time grasping this. It's very simple...

We are everywhere. Where we are consciously...we are unconscious everywhere else. So we don't have a specified location, it's about FOCUS. It's about being consciously aware of environments. Therefore, there is no separation if you are already there. Separating is something we unconsciously create in order to make sense of the shift of focus from on realm to another.

In the metaphysical realm, after one 'separates' for example, the moving away from the body is not actual...it is a thought. Even space/distance there is a thought...because it is the realm of thoughts after all. Not actual space, distance or movement but amplified to life-like proportions in that state of consciousness nonetheless.

what am I missing that makes this Keeple character so suspicious cuz, so far, I don't see it. :|


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: CFTraveler on May 14, 2011, 21:56:53
As someone who has been here for a long long time, from way back I can say that Frank, like other 'alphas', gathered a following. The guy was brilliant and charming, articulate, and knew how to explain the Monroe system in a way that most people understood.  And then, when he starts to branch out and put his personal stamp on the system, he disappears.  Which makes him even more mysterious and easy to mythologize.  And so, he was.  So, what is it, eight years?  Everyone is still talking about him.





Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Summerlander on May 14, 2011, 22:07:34
To me, the most likely explanation for his disappearance is that he died.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: CFTraveler on May 14, 2011, 22:14:47
I think so too.
But like some other 'larger than life' personalities, some people just can't believe it, or accept it emotionally, even if they do intellectually.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 22:21:36
worm food.

first reply to the thread.  so i agree cft and summer.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on May 15, 2011, 01:08:42
That's cheating to quote yourself.   ;)

But yeah, I do agree. 


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lexy on May 15, 2011, 09:02:21
 



(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MOR4hh3Uj6w/Ta4MvVKLDOI/AAAAAAAABZ4/kbU5GYgGNjg/s1600/bunnyaaiiiieiie.jpg)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on May 15, 2011, 21:16:16
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f81/XxPatzieTheHomicidalManiacxX/PALIN-SCARY-MOUTH.gif)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: patriciadecannes on September 16, 2011, 19:21:51

I live in South of France and I know that lots of expatriates connect to : http://riviera.angloinfo.com/forum/
(for Cannes, Nice and Monaco).

So if you post a message on the board  saying that you are looking for this guy with a picture, I am sure you will get some answers.  Expatriates here are all very interconnected....


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: bluesektor on September 19, 2011, 06:02:24
This site says he passed on..
"Frank has passed to afterlife."

*Removed link to copyrighted material ~ Ryan


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on September 19, 2011, 09:16:21
That is a website which is dedicated to Frank's (and maybe some of Adrian's) ideas though. Because it is made as a tribute, it is anyone's guess where the author was getting their information on that.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: bluesektor on September 19, 2011, 19:26:20
And the speculation here is much better?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on September 19, 2011, 20:43:49
And the speculation here is much better?
I think Stillwater was referring to the "actuality" of the statement made that Frank "had definitely" passed.
Fact is, nobody knows... and fact further is that chances are highly likely that we will *NEVER* know.  :)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lionheart on September 19, 2011, 21:09:49
 Speaking of this new site here. I went to the "do it by yourself" part of the forum. I clicked on Edited Version. That brought me to a Megaupload download. I downloaded this, saved it, then once it was done I tried to open it, but no results. Does anyone know how to make this work? I'm not versed with all the things that are needed to play downloads.
 Thank you!  :-)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on September 19, 2011, 21:25:47
Speaking of this new site here. I went to the "do it by yourself" part of the forum. I clicked on Edited Version. That brought me to a Megaupload download. I downloaded this, saved it, then once it was done I tried to open it, but no results. Does anyone know how to make this work? I'm not versed with all the things that are needed to play downloads.
 Thank you!  :-)
The "do it by yourself" part of the forum?
What do you mean?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lionheart on September 19, 2011, 22:00:10
 Never mind Ryan, Orion and Noy helped me in the IRC Channel room. Thanks for your helps Gentlemen!  :-)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on September 20, 2011, 01:07:21
Quote
I think Stillwater was referring to the "actuality" of the statement made that Frank "had definitely" passed.
Fact is, nobody knows... and fact further is that chances are highly likely that we will *NEVER* know. 


Yes- this more or less. I have been hearing this issue near a decade, and no new information has surfaced; you are exactly right blue- anything new about the subject seems to be speculation.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: light487 on September 20, 2011, 01:23:25
Never mind Ryan, Orion and Noy helped me in the IRC Channel room. Thanks for your helps Gentlemen!  :-)

Yer.. hehe.. it was a RAR archive file.. guess you worked out how to dearchive it by now but it results in an almost 1 gigabyte sized WAV file. One other thing you might want to look at getting is a program to convert that WAV into a smaller MP3. As long as you choose hiqh quality conversion, there shouldn't be too much loss of audio quality (I did it myself and it's fine). The program I use, which is free and easy to use is called "winLAME". Grab that, install it and then convert that huge WAV to a smaller file. With the default "High Quality" settings in winLAME, that 1gb file ended up just over 100 megabytes (100MB).. quite a difference.. especially if you are wanting to put it on a portable device.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lionheart on September 20, 2011, 04:14:52
 Thank you for the info light 487!


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stookie_ on September 20, 2011, 19:31:23
Those are pirated files. Really, that whole website was ripped off of other people's hard work without permission. It's good the info is out there, but it's a shame it was done in that manner.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: light487 on September 21, 2011, 00:19:26
Those are pirated files. Really, that whole website was ripped off of other people's hard work without permission. It's good the info is out there, but it's a shame it was done in that manner.

I was thinking the same thing when I read it too, to be honest.. but then I found the "Do it yourself" section and the "FAQ" section, which wasn't on "The Frank Kepple Resource Page".. at least not that I can see. All that extra information is so valuable.. especially the stuff about Frank's visualisation run down.. it has helped me immensely.. the FAQ stuff I am reading through, on my Kindle, currently.. I'm sure the info is around the place somewhere but I couldn't find it before that site...

So yes, I agree, it's been ripped off.. but without it.. I may not have found a lot of the information myself so readily.. so I can't really complain.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on September 21, 2011, 00:50:51
I was thinking the same thing when I read it too, to be honest.. but then I found the "Do it yourself" section and the "FAQ" section, which wasn't on "The Frank Kepple Resource Page".. at least not that I can see. All that extra information is so valuable.. especially the stuff about Frank's visualisation run down.. it has helped me immensely.. the FAQ stuff I am reading through, on my Kindle, currently.. I'm sure the info is around the place somewhere but I couldn't find it before that site...

So yes, I agree, it's been ripped off.. but without it.. I may not have found a lot of the information myself so readily.. so I can't really complain.
I've got all that information in my eBook, with expanded versions that I wrote too... ;)  Just sayin... :D


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stookie_ on September 21, 2011, 16:59:49
I was thinking the same thing when I read it too, to be honest.. but then I found the "Do it yourself" section and the "FAQ" section, which wasn't on "The Frank Kepple Resource Page".. at least not that I can see. All that extra information is so valuable.. especially the stuff about Frank's visualisation run down.. it has helped me immensely.. the FAQ stuff I am reading through, on my Kindle, currently.. I'm sure the info is around the place somewhere but I couldn't find it before that site...

So yes, I agree, it's been ripped off.. but without it.. I may not have found a lot of the information myself so readily.. so I can't really complain.

What really bothers me is that they are hosting files from Gateway for free download.

Gandalf compiled a lot of the information about Frank and has said himself in the past (from another time someone used it without permission) that he's OK because at least the info is getting out there. But it's inconsiderate to not give credit where it's due.

The sense of entitlement people have today is crazy.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Walker on May 29, 2019, 21:31:35
Projecting (or phasing) - perhaps. But documenting his experiences? No, probably not.

I'm currently on page 470 of the Frank PDF and so far, Frank has written very few experiences
of his own. Those few Frank experiences I've found so far, are very short and incomplete
in amount of details.

It's strikingly.

Hello all,

Is this extended PDF with Frank's posts still available?

Regards


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: floriferous on May 31, 2019, 16:26:08
Just for the sake of clarity and to put the speculation to bed -

Frank did indeed die of a sudden terminal illness. There is a thread on the admin forum in which he relates this to other administrators at the time.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Walker on June 01, 2019, 13:09:29
Just for the sake of clarity and to put the speculation to bed -

Frank did indeed die of a sudden terminal illness. There is a thread on the admin forum in which he relates this to other administrators at the time.

Do we have access to that thread?

Can't see it...  :?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Phildan1 on June 01, 2019, 16:55:53
It is on the admin forum. Of course you can't  : )


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Volgerle on June 01, 2019, 17:20:50
I wonder why Pulse users were not told before here because over the years many (normal, public) AP threads contained a lot of posted questions and speculations about this - even from moderators themselves who seemed not to know this but should have had access at the old threads in the admin area. Of course it is older and no one maybe searched for it correctly? This admin thread must then have been from 2005 or even earlier? Just wondering.

Thanks anyway for informing us now.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: floriferous on June 01, 2019, 21:57:43
I wonder why Pulse users were not told before here because over the years many (normal, public) AP threads contained a lot of posted questions and speculations about this - even from moderators themselves who seemed not to know this but should have had access at the old threads in the admin area. Of course it is older and no one maybe searched for it correctly? This admin thread must then have been from 2005 or even earlier? Just wondering.

Thanks anyway for informing us now.

Probably a combination of factors. At the time the admins didnt say anything out of respect I assume. Then over time with admin turnover and the thread getting buried under all the others it got forgotten about.

I only stumbled upon it when I was searching via Frank comments and noticed more comments than when I had done so before (this was because I had since become an admin and more of his comments were open to me.(. No way would I have found it otherwise and so why would any other admins?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Walker on June 02, 2019, 11:05:53
Well, I appreciate the clarification on Frank's fate.

At least we now know.

Thank you!



Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: floriferous on June 03, 2019, 00:36:51
I don't want to seem like I'm the person in the know. I'm really not as I wasn't around the forums then. Selski knew Frank probably better than any of the current admins.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on June 03, 2019, 20:36:26
It's never been a secret that Frank died... how or when.  He made it quite clear in his last several posts.
I made mention of the thread in the admin forum before as well.

There are a few people out there who think it was all a ploy anyway.
Some people just love a good conspiracy...

In the end if he's dead or if he's just hiding... it doesn't really matter.  He doesn't want to be here.  End of story.
The end is the same.  :)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Yodad on June 04, 2019, 22:35:47
It's never been a secret that Frank died... how or when.  He made it quite clear in his last several posts.
I made mention of the thread in the admin forum before as well.

There are a few people out there who think it was all a ploy anyway.
Some people just love a good conspiracy...

In the end if he's dead or if he's just hiding... it doesn't really matter.  He doesn't want to be here.  End of story.
The end is the same.  :)


When did you become a moderator?


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Volgerle on June 05, 2019, 00:28:29
It's never been a secret that Frank died... how or when.  He made it quite clear in his last several posts

I know it's a serious topic/thread but I can't help that I find the first two sentences funny because it can be a bit misleading.  :wink:

For users it was not clear and his last 'public' posts do not give an indication. Here they are. The 3 last ones indeed dealed with his health situation but as you can read he was rather positive about it and said he would be improving.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/profiles/frank-u359.html;sa,showPosts

So that is why it was only hearsay and in recent years I also read some mods here write they don't know or it is not clear and they were just speculating he had transitioned. I would not call it all a 'conspiracy' (and who conspired against who then?) but certainly a kind of 'myth' was created around him and his 'sudden' disappearance in 2005.

So it is good now we know for sure. Thanks to everyone involved.

It is good we have his memory in written form and can cherish and share it. The Kepple Resource is one of the links about AP that I would most likely share to newbies and those who want informed facts. It's awesome (thanks also to Gandalf who compiled it). His legacy remains.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on June 05, 2019, 17:28:10
When did you become a moderator?
Apparently June 2010.  Administrator a few years ago.

I know it's a serious topic/thread but I can't help that I find the first two sentences funny because it can be a bit misleading.  :wink:

For users it was not clear and his last 'public' posts do not give an indication. Here they are. The 3 last ones indeed dealed with his health situation but as you can read he was rather positive about it and said he would be improving.
Ha!  Sometimes I forget you folks can't see the Moderator forum.  Those posts natively show up in my searches.
But I did mention it a while back more than once.

I think some of the moderators just don't take the time to read through the dozens (and dozens and dozens hehe) of threads in the mod forum.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on June 05, 2019, 18:27:21
Frank's last post to the other mods:

Quote
Hi, Nay:

Public announcement  of what?

My chances of physical survival are rather limited, perhaps in the region of 10% and I shall be lucky if I make it to end October. I will do my best but do not count on it. I just hope that none of you people ever suddenly reach such a critical stage in your life without warning.

With kind regards,
Frank

Third to last:

Quote
Thousands of dollars, lol, I wish.

I have endured a situation that would never have ever entered my mind when I set out to create what I did. For those who do not like it they have already received a full refund.

Regards,
Frank

In these posts you can see the seed of the myth.

Frank had a major health episode in September to October 2005, and probably died as a result. As far as I can see, it is never specified what that episode was. Around this time Frank had accepted some advance money for something he was putting together, hence the conspiracy theory. Some folks at the time suggested this was his cover story. There was a lot of argument and factionalization among the large mod-base at the time. It is natural given that climate that different views of what happened would emerge.

I think Xanth has it right here. One way or the other, Frank has moved on. Enjoy the writing he left, try not to obssess beyond that. I know it is oddly a fun topic, because it is like the Pulse's greatest long-running mystery. 


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Phildan1 on June 06, 2019, 00:20:24
About Frank, being "suddenly" ill or having a life situation suddenly (or just being in it like a cancer or other from emotional stuff) which will cause his death, in regards how knowledgeable he was with his big experiences and having the Focus Model, understanding the big picture, with all the huge experiences, being in Focus 4, I wonder about how this sudden death came. Some may feel out some sort of fate in his life if he couldn't avoid it. I think, for me, this is the only confusion about his disappearing or death if he died. You know all and you can get well in his position. Or he wanted to exit this physical life? And No, don't misunderstand my thoughts about the good old saying that "who doesn't know it, teaches it", I don't say that. I just wonder why others are not discussing this part of the topic. Reminds me Buhlman and how he cured his cancer.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on June 06, 2019, 07:12:06
Quote
You know all and you can get well in his position.

I think you may be ascribing super powers to Frank, hehe. Not saying Buhlman didn't help cure his own cancer (possibly with the psychosomatics of intention, that is a big part of it), but to expect that someone accomplished at projection has every other ability and talent is a bit much. I think you may be idolizing this ability and what it represents.

You know the thing about being a Navy Seal? Takes just as many bullets to kill you if you don't see them coming. This is kind of like that.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: urshebear on June 07, 2019, 09:23:22
Perhaps he completed what he came here to achieve.

I know Frank recommended books by Jane Roberts as accurate to his understanding and in 'The Seth Material' it is said that people sometimes get sick and die once they have achieved what they set out to.

Of course, being terminally ill would be terrible but if you knew that death was not the end you likely wouldn't be too concerned about making your transition.

But here we are again with the speculations  :-P


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on June 08, 2019, 00:49:43
Sadly, the speculations will continue for eternity. 


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: superman on September 07, 2019, 21:57:43
Sadly, the speculations will continue for eternity. 

Nothing is hidden for eternity, trust me.


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: CFTraveler on September 14, 2019, 20:59:55
Sadly, the speculations will continue for eternity. 
  I can't believe this thread has kept going.  Hi Ryan!


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Volgerle on September 14, 2019, 23:59:52
 I can't believe this thread has kept going.  Hi Ryan!
I can't believe that CFT is back! Yipieh! Nice to read from you here on the Pulse again. Been a while. :-)


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Lumaza on September 15, 2019, 11:42:44
I can't believe that CFT is back! Yipieh! Nice to read from you here on the Pulse again. Been a while. :-)
Welcome back CFT!  :-) We missed your presence here!


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Stillwater on September 16, 2019, 03:41:43
WB!


Title: Re: The Fate of Frank Kepple
Post by: Xanth on September 17, 2019, 17:34:08
  I can't believe this thread has kept going.  Hi Ryan!
*waves!  Hi there CFT!  :)