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Title: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: Bloodshadow on January 23, 2017, 06:33:26
I've had many theories over my course on this site (Astralvoid), but this one my make more sense than any other.

 So you know how a false awakening work, we when we think we wake up but turns out we still in a dream, the dream usually consists of us waking in bed with a bit of lucidity to boot, making us think we are really awake, but something is always off or different that tells us we aren't awake. Anyway so supposedly we go through a ton of dreams throughout the night, or should I say transition into many dreams, but what if I told you we been actually having dreams within a dream, basically INCEPTION, Yes I said it each night we go through many Inceptions dreams within dreams, but how does that explain False awakening you ask? well depending on the traumatics of the dream you having sometimes in order to wake up fully we will have to go through all the dreams we had leading up to the one we may be currently having. The false awakening one will happen between the Physical and the etheric planes. I think our first dream always happen on the etheric planes, then we begin moving up or down depending on how drained we are of energy before going to sleep, most of us fit this state of being. anyway The etheric plane fits so closely to the physical one that we often wind up actually waking or becoming aware on this plane before waking in the physical plane, and at that point we are basically interacting with or loved ones astral selves.


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: Xanth on January 23, 2017, 17:02:48
Inception really was a fantastic movie.  Had great entertainment value... but that's all it was.  Remember that.  :)

With that said, to me, the concept of a "dream within a dream" is ridiculous.  I can totally understand how someone could come to that conclusion though, however, you're not having a dream within a dream... you're simply moving from dream scenario to a new dream scenario.  That's all.

With that said, a "false awakening" is simply you moving to a new scenario where you believe you've woken up.  You're essentially in a non-physical re-creation of your bedroom (or where ever).


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: Bloodshadow on January 23, 2017, 18:50:26
you sort of still proving my point that we going thru many dream scenes, alot of people including me think that dreaming and projecting are one and the same we just aren't aware at the time , i'm guessing you not one of them, but then again maybe you are cause you did say recreation of the bedroom, and thats basically what the etheric plane is,  the closes to the physical one with the recreation of the physical, so you not really disproving it, just taking out the inception


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: Xanth on January 23, 2017, 19:51:53
you sort of still proving my point that we going thru many dream scenes, alot of people including me think that dreaming and projecting are one and the same we just aren't aware at the time , i'm guessing you not one of them,
Oh I'm most definitely one of those people.  :)
I actually go further in saying that this physical reality experience is really nothing but a projection as well.

You haven't read my book yet, have you?  :D  hehe
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39504726/Phasing_Primer.pdf

Enjoy!

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but then again maybe you are cause you did say recreation of the bedroom, and thats basically what the etheric plane is,  the closes to the physical one with the recreation of the physical, so you not really disproving it, just taking out the inception
I, however, don't view the "etheric plane" as being something that objectively exist.  I'm actually against all the "planes" talk... I find it all rather ridiculous, and convulsively confusing (especially for new people).  Consciousness isn't hierarchical nor linear in it's nature.

What I'm taking out of the equation (per your statement above) is the "dream within a dream" scenario.  It's like when people say that they've had a "dream of a lucid dream"... you're either aware that you're dreaming or you're not.  While there is a middle ground there, it's not in the way that most people want it to be.  You can, however, dream ABOUT lucid dreaming.  But that's something entirely different.

As far as I'm concerned, what we humans call "dreaming" simply doesn't exist.  What you're doing when you're "dreaming" is projecting.  You're just unaware of it.
Kind of like what you're doing right this very second with this physical reality experience you're currently having.  :)


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: Subtle Traveler on January 23, 2017, 20:03:17
I agree with Xanth's comment to you.

I would add that you are attempting to use your biological brain to explain conscious experience. Distracted by your brain's theory, you are without an experience. To have an experience, you must use your mind (not biological brain). This is why, for the majority of us, our physical body (and brain) must be resting to project with our mind.

Certainly, each time we go to sleep at night, we are returning to the non-physical. We do not remember most of this experience, as a dream is simply the transition period back to the physical. Dreams happen just before we wake up (in an instant).

False awakenings are simply a less conscious shift in focus - we are less aware. Sometimes a clue is revealed in these experiences that let's us know to wake up more or become more conscious.

A useful metaphor here may be that "we are radio and as the radio dial is moved so does our mind's focus". I have had experiences where I am focused "partially" in two worlds at the same time, but I am not completely in either. An example of this is when I am still near or in my body and feel my breathing, but I can see into the RTZ. I am not fully in either "focus". It is generally a transitional period. However, any time that I have thought about my body, I return to it and so these dual experiences have always been short lived.


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: desert-rat on January 23, 2017, 22:53:02
You are talking about what is known.as lucid dreaming.  Becoming conscious within a dream then taking control.  I think. 


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: Bloodshadow on January 24, 2017, 01:20:16
i like you alls input intriguing..... maybe i'll post my other theories here as well to get more feed back. til then take care. tho most times i been becoming aware its always thru the false awakening phase trying to wake up i have more lucidity in those than my normal dreams, and yes they are quite short lived, that i can't  make anything else of it like become fully aware to do what i been striving to do.


Title: Re: My Theory About False Awakenings
Post by: T-Man on September 28, 2017, 03:48:12
I have had a few false awakenings and have found them confusing and intriguing.  I had another one last night.  A false awakening is just another dream and dreams are meant to provide us with learning opportunities.  Does this mean that this type of dream is providing me with the opportunity to develop or increase my self awareness?  Is it testing my NP self to see if I can recognize my environment/surroundings?  With my false awakening last night everything seemed and felt very ‘Real’ but this only lasted a very short time like maybe 15-20 seconds when something must have been off in the dream and I became lucid.  I don’t recall what made me become Lucid but hopefully my NP awareness is learning to recognize my environment.  Once I became Lucid I awoke in the physical.  Seemed like a lost opportunity for a Lucid dream adventure but maybe I learned what I needed to!