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Title: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 20, 2017, 17:08:00
Not only do I get dreams of hell but I can often feel it's texture, it's very stuffy, and dense, and dark, with lots of sorrow and sadness. In the dream I either feel like I am going to hell because I deserve it or that I'm in hell. I know Tom Campbell said that we should look to our dreams to see how we are or something like that. I do know that a while back ago I got PTSD and I believed I deserved hell at that time. I went through an emotional breakdown that took it's toll on my soul. Even though I've healed a lot since then I feel like my emotional baggage is coming back to haunt me. I think my PTSD probably has caused my current recurring dreams of hell. I hope when I die I don't go to the bad lands. Thoughts?


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Stillwater on August 20, 2017, 20:02:48
It is occupying your thoughts too much in the waking life.

I have had 2 dreams this month where I was a general at the helm of a medieval army. Looks like I played too many strategy games in my down hours, hehe.

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I know Tom Campbell said that we should look to our dreams to see how we are or something like that.

I think dreams can be a good reflection of things we spend a lot of time thinking of, or other times which simply emerge from somewhere buried deep in our subconscious.

I spend exactly 0 hours a year thinking about dragons, but the other day, I had a dream that featured a dragon. Happens sometimes.

But in your case, it really does sound like it is a concept that is occupying your waking thoughts.

I feel like you already knew the answer before you asked the question.



Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 20, 2017, 20:28:55
But in your case, it really does sound like it is a concept that is occupying your waking thoughts.

I feel like you already knew the answer before you asked the question.
At the end of the day I know that I deserve better because my beliefs are just too complex at this point to trap me into a deserved hell. Just my underlying energy says otherwise in my dreams. And there was no question really in my original post but if I were to narrow it down I would say that I'm just confused as to how this effects my afterlife place? This is really energy versus beliefs. Which one rules in the afterlife? I guess that is the question to be asking. Thanks for chiming in Stillwater.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Stillwater on August 21, 2017, 01:42:36
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Which one rules in the afterlife? I guess that is the question to be asking.

I honestly don't think anyone here is qualified to answer a question like that.

I would be very suspicious of any answer you received to such a question.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Kzaal on August 21, 2017, 03:38:46
Beliefs 8-)

No but seriously, the closer you get to enlightenment the closer darkness creeps up on you...
I get weird f*'ed up dreams all the time, to me they're just there to help me face my fears.
Don't let the fears control your life.

You know how nature works, the more you think about this kind of stuff... the more you let your fears take over, the bigger they get...
How I see things is... it always gets tougher... You just gotta keep going.
It's easy to just throw down your weapons and let fear invade you.
When you understand this you have control over your thoughts.
It's tough to always control and deny every bad thoughts you get but it's something you have to do to keep evolving and seeing the good stuff.
And dreams about hell and stuff, it's just your imagination running wild, when you think about something terrible and you can't get through it then you develop scenarios and your consciousness put that into a dream to show you what you don't want to see. It happens.

It's always backwards, everything, you want something too much, you never get it, you don't want something, you get it, everything is backward... that's nature man, nature is backwards lol... Or we're just the opposite of nature and everything we do is backwards and we should go with the nature instead... I don't know.

All I know is, since I started to stop worrying so much about my next life/reincarnation so much and worrying about death and all that stuff, I've never felt better, I actually enjoy stuff now and my time here seems much more enjoyable than it used to.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 21, 2017, 22:17:09
It's always backwards, everything, you want something too much, you never get it, you don't want something, you get it, everything is backward... that's nature man, nature is backwards lol... Or we're just the opposite of nature and everything we do is backwards and we should go with the nature instead... I don't know.

All I know is, since I started to stop worrying so much about my next life/reincarnation so much and worrying about death and all that stuff, I've never felt better, I actually enjoy stuff now and my time here seems much more enjoyable than it used to.
I am sure the law of attraction is in there someplace. And yes it's good to not worry about stuff. You can plan though. I wouldn't say I'm worried about it. But yeah thanks for chiming in.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: MarsZM on August 30, 2017, 20:51:26
You sound a lot like me. Just take care of yourself man. And know you are deeply loved and worthy



Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 31, 2017, 02:59:04
You sound a lot like me. Just take care of yourself man. And know you are deeply loved and worthy
Thanks!


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: desert-rat on August 31, 2017, 03:42:21
hell is a myth , created by the church as a form of control .  There is a hell , on the astral plane created by thoes that beleve in the place , not by God . 


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 31, 2017, 05:48:00
hell is a myth , created by the church as a form of control .  There is a hell , on the astral plane created by thoes that beleve in the place , not by God . 
I hope so.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Xanth on August 31, 2017, 12:53:43
hell is a myth , created by the church as a form of control .  There is a hell , on the astral plane created by thoes that beleve in the place , not by God .
Well, each of us is god... so, technically, it is created by god.  :D  ;)


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: MarsZM on August 31, 2017, 19:46:33
I wish people who dropped dead realized the key to get out of hell is right in front of them. It's like they end up in those places because they aren't all that sharp and they think they deserve it.

Or they have some religious baggage that enters their belief system. I think a lot of atheists who have near death experiences and report going to hell etc is because they grabbed onto a belief system they are familiar with like Christianity or something. It's like they had to grab onto something... and did it on a subconscious level or something...


 It's crazy to me there are people out there in this world that don't even know they are a spirit being. Or like xanth said literally a god. It just seems so unhealthy.

I mean if people dropped dead and became sharp all of a sudden that's one thing but... from what I see that's not the case at all.


I seen so many zombie souls it's not even funny. They don't even go that far when they die. A lot of them wonder around clueless and most seem to go to belief system territories.

I don't believe in the earth school thing. This place is obviously controlled and dominated... It just doesn't seem like a good idea to incarnate into a place like this to me. That's a personal decision and opinion but... After this I am gonna go "learn and grow" somewhere else... lol.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 31, 2017, 20:21:21
I seen so many zombie souls it's not even funny. They don't even go that far when they die. A lot of them wonder around clueless and most seem to go to belief system territories.

I don't believe in the earth school thing. This place is obviously controlled and dominated... It just doesn't seem like a good idea to incarnate into a place like this to me. That's a personal decision and opinion but... After this I am gonna go "learn and grow" somewhere else... lol.
When you say zombie souls, what do you mean, what kind of territories have you seen them in? Were they in dark areas, were these souls suffering, or were they just lost, having no clue where to go or what to do? Thanks for chiming in Phaseshift.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: MarsZM on August 31, 2017, 20:28:01
When you say zombie souls, do you mean, what kind of territories have you seen them in? Were they in dark areas, were these souls suffering, or were they just lost, having no clue where to go or what to do? Thanks for chiming in Phaseshift.

I just mean lost and confused or hanging out in the dimension nearest to earth (Or not very far out) Harassing living people like a typical ghost or something. Just not really aware or sharp at all. I know a spirit that has been in the same building for 30 years because she is afraid to move on because of these religious teaches she still thinks she's gonna burn in hell. She literally just sits around there. It's very sad.

I think some people reincarnate over and over and over again and after a while it's like you completely lose track of who you are. I don't think a mind wipe is normal either... They put poison in the baby food for god sake. The moment you come here you are programmed. How many people really get to live their dreams here? Not the majority... Some people do... I just see life in other worlds and everybody is so friendly... Here you have to work a 9-5 and if you don't well... Can't feed your kids or whatever.

It's just a disaster. That's not life at all... We should be flying around in spaceships in a star wars like reality. The cure for cancer is right in peoples faces but the doctors that do show this stuff get thrown in jail... It is just crazy to me why anybody would wanna keep coming back here to "learn and grow" It's just new age rubbish  in my own personal opinion.

I think the whole love and light thing is completely false too. Love is not the answer... Love is a good thing... It's beautiful it's an energy... but in the new age community that's all you hear... (Turn your back to the enemy and love and light... don't do anything about it... just sit there and think positive thoughts) Not saying positive thoughts are a bad thing it's just... Like I said.. I don't think this place is healthy at all. Who knows I may have chose to come here... I don't get to remember.  :lol: Maybe I said okay I know this is going to suck... but I gotta go help these people out...

And now I am thinking okay... Lets not do that again... People aren't waking up. That's like seeing people stuck in quicksand and going I will save ya! and you jump in the quicksand and now you are all screwed! Plus what are the chances you will get to remember why you came here? Again... You'll be brainwashed by the age of (young) and you risk losing memory of everything and then you get to repeat the process over and over again or the (cycle) I tend to think I came here for a reason but I am done with earth after this round. People can come back if they want but I am out of here.

Gosh phaseshiftR you don't sound very "enlightened" there's another word in the new age gone BERSERK.

Sorry if I sound all raghhhh! lol. I am just very passionate... Like Michael Jacksons song... Man in the mirror. If you wanna change the world, keep working on self. (self love)  Make that change!  Take care man.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Nameless on August 31, 2017, 21:19:52
**Stands up and bows to PhaseshifteR**


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 31, 2017, 22:06:16
I just mean lost and confused or hanging out in the dimension nearest to earth (Or not very far out) Harassing living people like a typical ghost or something. Just not really aware or sharp at all. I know a spirit that has been in the same building for 30 years because she is afraid to move on because of these religious teaches she still thinks she's gonna burn in hell. She literally just sits around there. It's very sad.

I think some people reincarnate over and over and over again and after a while it's like you completely lose track of who you are. I don't think a mind wipe is normal either... They put poison in the baby food for god sake. The moment you come here you are programmed. How many people really get to live their dreams here? Not the majority... Some people do... I just see life in other worlds and everybody is so friendly... Here you have to work a 9-5 and if you don't well... Can't feed your kids or whatever.

It's just a disaster. That's not life at all... We should be flying around in spaceships in a star wars like reality. The cure for cancer is right in peoples faces but the doctors that do show this stuff get thrown in jail... It is just crazy to me why anybody would wanna keep coming back here to "learn and grow" It's just new age rubbish  in my own personal opinion.

I think the whole love and light thing is completely false too. Love is not the answer... Love is a good thing... It's beautiful it's an energy... but in the new age community that's all you hear... (Turn your back to the enemy and love and light... don't do anything about it... just sit there and think positive thoughts) Not saying positive thoughts are a bad thing it's just... Like I said.. I don't think this place is healthy at all. Who knows I may have chose to come here... I don't get to remember.  :lol: Maybe I said okay I know this is going to suck... but I gotta go help these people out...

And now I am thinking okay... Lets not do that again... People aren't waking up. That's like seeing people stuck in quicksand and going I will save ya! and you jump in the quicksand and now you are all screwed! Plus what are the chances you will get to remember why you came here? Again... You'll be brainwashed by the age of (young) and you risk losing memory of everything and then you get to repeat the process over and over again or the (cycle) I tend to think I came here for a reason but I am done with earth after this round. People can come back if they want but I am out of here.

Gosh phaseshiftR you don't sound very "enlightened" there's another word in the new age gone BERSERK.

Sorry if I sound all raghhhh! lol. I am just very passionate... Like Michael Jacksons song... Man in the mirror. If you wanna change the world, keep working on self. (self love)  Make that change!  Take care man.
Thank you for your well done reply. I too have serious doubts about coming here again, perhaps not as much as you, but. And no I don't think your unenlightened now. I totally agree with you. Though I logically know what your saying is true, I feel like I am more attached to this world energetically than what I would like to admit. But who knows what will happen once I die. Thanks phaseshift.  :-)


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on August 31, 2017, 22:06:53
**Stands up and bows to PhaseshifteR**
I know right, that was a pretty good reply.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: ThaomasOfGrey on September 01, 2017, 04:23:55
Aren't all the terrible things about this reality that PhaseshifteR described also the things that make it an effective learning experience?

Suppose we were born into Utopian societies where all systems approached perfection and life was harmonious. How do these people react when they are dropped into an imperfect scenario? Can they be tempted by the same kinds of traps that humans fall into?

Is true learning really possible without polarity? Is the wisdom accrued by your society really yours if it is just your cultural programming?


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 01, 2017, 05:00:49
I just fixed that typo in my reply.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: MarsZM on September 01, 2017, 05:35:59
Thank you Nameless and Plasma! I just couldn't stop typing there.

TOG- My response to all of those (I have thought of them because of discussions in the past) is that it just seems silly to me. We all have different views though. It just simply doesn't make sense to me. We have been around for so long... How many times are we gonna come back to learn courage? I say... If we don't have courage down PAT... Something is wrong here.

It's like the classic (I am going to reincarnate on earth and I plan to be in a horrible accident... I am going to live life as a burn victim. I won't even look human anymore I will be in pain everyday... I will learn a lot from that...) Man I am just not buying that anymore. You hear the same thing in the new age community where they say people chose to die in 9/11 for a learning experience or just an experience in general. My question would be why? What would you learn? Watching your family suffer from something that was an inside job in the first place?

 As a powerful powerful powerful spiritual being that we all are... each and everyone of us... who looks at earth and says gee... I am going to incarnate into North Korea. This would be a good learning experience... Think of all the things we can do... as a divine being. I don't think pain is a good thing at all. Physical or emotional. It's not something I would ever consider... Who wants to experience pain?

I hear these questions a lot though and on a personal level it just doesn't make sense but that's just me. I really come from left field though as far as mainstream spirituality goes... I have seen things like "Well that child chose to be abused to learn from it..." This is pretty stupid. It doesn't seem logical to me. Look at how big the universe is... and there are infinite universes... Think about this. All that's out there... I always say... I will be off somewhere else really living it up... and if it is a war like universe at least go to a place where you get to remember who you are lol... If somone wants to incarnate or reincarnate on a prison planet okay... you have fun I am gonna be cruising the stars in my space ship! Personal choice... I have experienced the worst of pains. I don't need to stay here.

I'm not referring to you btw TOG. I'm really generalizing here and I respect your views and opinions I just am on the other side of the field when this topic is brought up usually... and I stay over there.





Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 01, 2017, 06:01:31
You know I have thought about this a bit, I think there is no ultimate right or wrong answer. The heart of reality and truth is decentralized, so trying to cling to one view too much is futile.

I don't think people come here to incarnate into the physical or earth just to learn one lesson or to suffer for the sake of suffering. I think it's more about beings coming here in droves to support each other in order to eventually establish this place as a utopia of some sort. All we have to do is follow the logical progression of science and how that will lead to the merging of science and spirituality and that is reason enough to come here and keep reincarnating until this merging of science and spirituality happens, because then growth becomes infinite. (EDIT: So I think that coming here is like an investment into a new business that might pay off big time in the end.) Given that I think this world is over rated, and it's not as good as it's believed to be. And yes I agree that suffering for the sake of suffering isn't good. And suffering is only good if it produces growth, but suffering isn't necessary for growth. So I can see it both ways.

That is my two cents.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: ThaomasOfGrey on September 02, 2017, 20:55:28
It's like the classic (I am going to reincarnate on earth and I plan to be in a horrible accident... I am going to live life as a burn victim. I won't even look human anymore I will be in pain everyday... I will learn a lot from that...) Man I am just not buying that anymore. You hear the same thing in the new age community where they say people chose to die in 9/11 for a learning experience or just an experience in general. My question would be why? What would you learn? Watching your family suffer from something that was an inside job in the first place?

Good point. I always felt this was a problem with the idea of people signing up for a particular experience.

Looking at it from another perspective, maybe the signing up thing was always false, or is partially false. We know that unplanned pregnancy exists, people are getting born and someone has to live those experiences.

Perhaps only a select few get to choose a probable life. Or maybe the lives we choose are so uncertain that they don't pan out a lot of the time. Maybe the lives that no one else wants are forced upon a brand new unit of consciousness that doesn't know anything different.

I won't pretend to know if any of those ideas are correct. What I do suspect is that the idea of re-incarnation has some practical value for developing consciousness and would be a sensible mechanic to implement in some fashion.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Selski on September 03, 2017, 08:57:06
Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey
We know that unplanned pregnancy exists, people are getting born and someone has to live those experiences.

Well yes, but an unplanned pregnancy might have been part of the pre-planning process. Just think of what all those involved could experience/learn versus a planned pregnancy.

In my opinion, we have no idea of what souls can learn by going through 'horrible' experiences - unless we've walked in their shoes. It's all conjecture otherwise.  :-)


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: desert-rat on September 03, 2017, 15:01:08
Well, each of us is god... so, technically, it is created by god.  :D  ;)


I guess that is true , never thought of it that way tho . 


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: desert-rat on September 03, 2017, 15:07:46
I hope so.

I ment the Christain version of after life torment forever .   We create our reality , good and bad .  You might want to ask your higher self/guides / masters / God what the dreams mean , and how best to handle things .   


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Visitor on September 03, 2017, 15:19:14
Maybe horrible experiences are nothing more than opportunities to shake us up and get us questioning.  One way or another we are given enough triggers and opportunities ...either by our own hand or as witnesses to others....to get us questioning and get us moving at least one step in the right direction.

What direction?  Enlightment or whatever name one calls it these days.  A state where you recognise or suddenly open yourself to some altered state of existence and connect with the light that one is. 

Initially it's orgasms.  And let's face it this day and age we have all experienced multiple versions directly ....indirectly...at every turn of the possibolity spectrum.  So we can for sure say that every adult on this planet is at the first chakra stage! 

And on up it goes...each centre with its own endless variety of possible expressions for us to get to know and understand.

Do not ask me why it's important.  I am here so I am as lost as some...less than others ....and more than others ....all in one day.  Sometimes I see sense, make sense....other times I am solid lost in vindictive humanity.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Thread Killer on September 03, 2017, 15:43:20
I honestly don't think anyone here is qualified to answer a question like that.

I would be very suspicious of any answer you received to such a question.
As a self appointed expert it is incumbent upon me to stick my nose into other peoples problems. I believe in a bespoke universe, custom tailored to our individual needs and not an off the rack universe where one clumsy answer has to be forced to fit all. Quit asking questions of others that only you can answer. But of course, this path is more challenging...


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Nameless on September 03, 2017, 23:39:27
"Do not ask me why it's important.  I am here so I am as lost as some...less than others ....and more than others ....all in one day.  Sometimes I see sense, make sense....other times I am solid lost in vindictive humanity." Me too Visitor so there's that out in the open.

Never thought I'd see a day when a topic beginning in hell would turn into a pretty dang good conversation, lol.

All I can honestly say is that my opinions, thoughts and feelings have fluctuated many times. At the moment I'm feeling we are just here to live however we choose to do it. On a physical level it don't even matter. On a spiritual or non-physical level perhaps we are nothing more than batteries meant to draw energy from our here and now and pass it on to the there and then.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 04, 2017, 00:35:58
On a spiritual or non-physical level perhaps we are nothing more than batteries meant to draw energy from our here and now and pass it on to the there and then.
I use to think this too. Like once we get to the afterlife and have had sex it neutralizes our energy polarity and then we either have to come back to recharge that battery or we continue waiting there in the astral/afterlife but we eventually will feel empty until we came back and recharge that battery. I'm not really qualified to answer this, but I think there has to be something that pushes us to come back here. Or maybe not, IDK. I know Tom Campbell says the physical is the best place to learn and grow spiritually.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Kzaal on September 04, 2017, 01:31:46
To me the only reason why we come back here is to understand what feelings are, not just feelings in general. All the feelings, to understand each and every single one of them.
Moral Values, and happiness, love...
All this stuff is what is required to move to the next step.
We are humans but the only way we can evolve is to understand "What makes us human".
After that, well you already know the answer, we're spiritual beings having a human experience.
Why do we need to reincarnate? Maybe we're just spirits that didn't learn all these feelings.

I just like to think that by learning to understand all theses emotions I could be a better spiritual guide in the after life.
I don't think there would be a logical explication as to why we would keep reincarnating in the same life or just in general without any means to progress.

Live these emotions and learn from them.
Appreciate these small moments.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Xanth on September 04, 2017, 01:43:16
Not only do I get dreams of hell but I can often feel it's texture, it's very stuffy, and dense, and dark, with lots of sorrow and sadness. In the dream I either feel like I am going to hell because I deserve it or that I'm in hell. I know Tom Campbell said that we should look to our dreams to see how we are or something like that. I do know that a while back ago I got PTSD and I believed I deserved hell at that time. I went through an emotional breakdown that took it's toll on my soul. Even though I've healed a lot since then I feel like my emotional baggage is coming back to haunt me. I think my PTSD probably has caused my current recurring dreams of hell. I hope when I die I don't go to the bad lands. Thoughts?
Let's go back to your first post...

Basically, you think your life is hell... so it's reflected in your dreams.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: MarsZM on September 04, 2017, 04:34:41
Lol I opened the can of worms here look what I have done...  :-D Sorry guys!! Great discussion though... Great points by everybody


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 04, 2017, 05:03:34
I'll reply later, as I am getting really sleepy now.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: MarsZM on September 04, 2017, 06:44:51
I'll reply later, as I am getting really sleepy now.

Plasma one thing I would say to you is that you aren't going to go to the badlands. I really do believe it all boils down to what you think and believe is going to happen to you when you pass from this place. That seems to be the case with OBE's. I go where my thoughts are kinda at... Not all the time but... Where do you want to go when you die? Focus on that and remember that you are a god and go there.

I think it's where your thoughts are at. If I am not doing good emotionally I really don't have good OBE's / dreams. It's kind of like Nobody can send you to hell except yourself. And that means the key to get out is in your hands at all times.


That's how I have always felt about it.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: desert-rat on September 04, 2017, 16:29:56
I think the dreams are telling  you that you can make your life a living hell , or you can use some clearing methods to clear the repressed stuff in your subconscious and from past lives .  Just my wild thoughts . 


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: Yorae on September 04, 2017, 19:54:27
Not only do I get dreams of hell but I can often feel it's texture, it's very stuffy, and dense, and dark, with lots of sorrow and sadness. In the dream I either feel like I am going to hell because I deserve it or that I'm in hell. I know Tom Campbell said that we should look to our dreams to see how we are or something like that. I do know that a while back ago I got PTSD and I believed I deserved hell at that time. I went through an emotional breakdown that took it's toll on my soul. Even though I've healed a lot since then I feel like my emotional baggage is coming back to haunt me. I think my PTSD probably has caused my current recurring dreams of hell. I hope when I die I don't go to the bad lands. Thoughts?

Hello PlasmaAstralProjection and everyone, I was reading you guys posts and wanted to give my own opinion.

About your "issue" with the dreams from hell friend it seems normaly connected to your life problems, I can never say I know how you feel and how is this happening, also not like my opinion is "Universal Law" I could still be wrong :) though I doubt from personal experiences with life's problems...

When I was younger I used to be deeply affected by life, family problems, outside problems, world problems... this all together instead turned itself into many repeated nightmares that happened with the years... I was really scared also because was so weird how a dream I had a year or two ago or even more years would come back and just like a recorded tape... and I thought I never thinked about this things in my life... but deeply inside I realised the feelings were there...

I also had "dreams" I saddly dont know yet today if was just dreams or a warning for things about to happen, but well I am not here to talk about me... but well people who usually feel things very strongly( very emotionally sensitive) tend to have this sort of dreams too.

Now about the case you explained it seems that your lifes worries are still with you even when you think part of them are gone or all, and everyone deals with problems different so there is not a "heal all method" but positive thinking and comming to terms with your problems does help a lot, sure you heard this a lot before though :), I dont know your problems but I am sure it is connected with what you having now.
Giving an example there was some traumatazing experiences in my life, and deep down I always thought low of myself... and this lead to nightmares somehow connected to it and they repeated themselfs too which was very disturbing... but when I started to come to terms with it years later those dreams also stopped comming up, sometimes I think of it as a curiosity but never came up again...

I seriously hope you get better from your nightmares friend, about mine if you curious its been many years since I had any nightmares of significance, the repeating ones stopped very long ago... maybe since I started to have another aproach to life and be more in peace with myself ( mind you I still have lots of stresses which probably right now are screwing up my astral attempts which I been asking help/opinions about lol) only thing I could tell is the episodes of paralysis and astral projection some of them have been really scary and like things crawling on me, touching in weird places etc but since I came to terms with my own fears about it it went down a lot, but when I started to really try to practise was super rare a "nightmare" episode and even when it happened I took it passively and got out of it fine, means I still got to deal with some fear in me though :)

I dont know if I helped anything but I wanted to leave my words, I also think your not going to "the badlands" even if you having this nightmares right now, looks like you are in the right track too in dealing with it and I am cheering it will all pass soon.



Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 05, 2017, 03:02:16
Live these emotions and learn from them.
Appreciate these small moments.
Yeah that is the point where I have come to. I'm no Buddha, not yet at least.  :wink:


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 05, 2017, 03:08:00
Let's go back to your first post...

Basically, you think your life is hell... so it's reflected in your dreams.
Yes and no. I get ticks where I get really anger for a moment at someone in my head but then it goes away fast. It also depends on which medication I am taking. So even though my regular life feels pretty normal besides my health condition, I feel like at least subconsciously I am living in the past with the negative emotions that I gained during what seems to be a PTSD time in my past. Let's put it this way, generally I am fine unless I feel bad, then all these negative beliefs and emotions come to the surface. Such as in some of my dreams, hellish dreams. Thanks for chiming in Xanth.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 05, 2017, 03:10:54
Plasma one thing I would say to you is that you aren't going to go to the badlands. I really do believe it all boils down to what you think and believe is going to happen to you when you pass from this place. That seems to be the case with OBE's. I go where my thoughts are kinda at... Not all the time but... Where do you want to go when you die? Focus on that and remember that you are a god and go there.

I think it's where your thoughts are at. If I am not doing good emotionally I really don't have good OBE's / dreams. It's kind of like Nobody can send you to hell except yourself. And that means the key to get out is in your hands at all times.


That's how I have always felt about it.
I would say that intellectually and belief wise I think I should be in the middle realms or perhaps higher. But if I feel bad then that can trigger something in me that makes me think I deserve much worse.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 05, 2017, 03:14:19
I think the dreams are telling  you that you can make your life a living hell , or you can use some clearing methods to clear the repressed stuff in your subconscious and from past lives .  Just my wild thoughts . 
Yeah I've been working on visualizing light. I feel like if I could master that then I can master getting out of a bad situation in the afterlife. Like getting out of the badlands. IDK if that is the best method but it's one method that can work I think and from what I've read.  Thanks for chiming in Desert-Rat.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 05, 2017, 03:31:41
Hello PlasmaAstralProjection and everyone, I was reading you guys posts and wanted to give my own opinion.

About your "issue" with the dreams from hell friend it seems normaly connected to your life problems, I can never say I know how you feel and how is this happening, also not like my opinion is "Universal Law" I could still be wrong :) though I doubt from personal experiences with life's problems...

When I was younger I used to be deeply affected by life, family problems, outside problems, world problems... this all together instead turned itself into many repeated nightmares that happened with the years... I was really scared also because was so weird how a dream I had a year or two ago or even more years would come back and just like a recorded tape... and I thought I never thinked about this things in my life... but deeply inside I realised the feelings were there...

I also had "dreams" I saddly dont know yet today if was just dreams or a warning for things about to happen, but well I am not here to talk about me... but well people who usually feel things very strongly( very emotionally sensitive) tend to have this sort of dreams too.

Now about the case you explained it seems that your lifes worries are still with you even when you think part of them are gone or all, and everyone deals with problems different so there is not a "heal all method" but positive thinking and comming to terms with your problems does help a lot, sure you heard this a lot before though :), I dont know your problems but I am sure it is connected with what you having now.
Giving an example there was some traumatazing experiences in my life, and deep down I always thought low of myself... and this lead to nightmares somehow connected to it and they repeated themselfs too which was very disturbing... but when I started to come to terms with it years later those dreams also stopped comming up, sometimes I think of it as a curiosity but never came up again...

I seriously hope you get better from your nightmares friend, about mine if you curious its been many years since I had any nightmares of significance, the repeating ones stopped very long ago... maybe since I started to have another aproach to life and be more in peace with myself ( mind you I still have lots of stresses which probably right now are screwing up my astral attempts which I been asking help/opinions about lol) only thing I could tell is the episodes of paralysis and astral projection some of them have been really scary and like things crawling on me, touching in weird places etc but since I came to terms with my own fears about it it went down a lot, but when I started to really try to practise was super rare a "nightmare" episode and even when it happened I took it passively and got out of it fine, means I still got to deal with some fear in me though :)

I dont know if I helped anything but I wanted to leave my words, I also think your not going to "the badlands" even if you having this nightmares right now, looks like you are in the right track too in dealing with it and I am cheering it will all pass soon.

Thanks definitely appreciate it. And I'm glad you got over your nightmares. Can't wait to see what's on the other side for me. If I end up in a bad place. I'll use positive thinking to help get myself out. In the meantime I really need to work on my subconscious beliefs I think another with visualization. Thanks for chiming in Yorae.


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: desert-rat on September 05, 2017, 14:28:02
The methods are form a book .  If I find the book I will post the isbn # if it has one .  Bascly it uses deep breathing , yoga and visualatation .   Written by JohnRuskin , or close th that .

p.s.   Many years  ago a lady that has passed on had a new age book store and a talk show on a local radio station in Phoenix .  The author was on the show and at the store for a book sigeing . I got to meet him breefly .
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=0-9629295-0-6&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A0-9629295-0-6


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 06, 2017, 05:03:17
The methods are form a book .  If I find the book I will post the isbn # if it has one .  Bascly it uses deep breathing , yoga and visualatation .   Written by JohnRuskin , or close th that .

p.s.   Many years  ago a lady that has passed on had a new age book store and a talk show on a local radio station in Phoenix .  The author was on the show and at the store for a book sigeing . I got to meet him breefly .
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=0-9629295-0-6&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A0-9629295-0-6
I checked this book out at the library, thanks.  :-)


Title: Re: I keep getting dreams of hell.
Post by: desert-rat on September 06, 2017, 14:44:35
Hear is the basic idea .  We all create our reality for good , for bad , consciously , unconsciously .   Our repressed unconscious stuff creates all the  problems in our lives .   The   method in the book is one method , there are others like guided medation to clear past life stuff .