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Is it possible to do something so wrong against your own self or God or higher being or all of them or whatever that you will be disowned on some level by some higher source?
Matthew 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

I tend to think that this scripture has to do with a higher being(s) helping someone throughout their whole life or family throughout their whole life only to have the most important lesson not only rejected but to cause more suffering to others. Not only that but there was an agreement made before their incarnation that they would overcome because of the help of higher beings, then it all just gets destroyed. What do yous think of this?

This is a good  question.
I am not religions and I don't truly believe there is a "God" a "Creator Of All"... So to speak. But believe there is a higher power and it is consciousness.
I do believe there is a greater force/power that we are all part of, that we are all... consciousness.

For what you are questioning, there would have to be a right and a wrong, correct?

If we are all operating on this physical training ground. As I believe this physical reality is only a training ground for the after life.
When you look at right and wrong in the end its all based on your experiences here on earth. What is right in my point of view, might be wrong in your views.... So what is right and wrong? Of course there are certain thing most people can agree on... Murder, rape, molestation, harassment... stuff like that = WRONG and me/most do NOT agree with one bit.

I think part of the issue is society is told what is right, wrong, acceptable, unacceptable. Which in turn throws a box around everyone and limits us... unknowingly. 

I believe that if you truly THINK and BELIEVE, as you ask.... "do something so wrong against your own self or God or higher being or all of them or whatever that you will be disowned on some level by some higher source?"

Then YES, YES, and YES!!! You are correct. It is YOUR thinking that makes it so.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with thinking and believing that.

So For my answer:
I don't believe this one bit. I am sure if you are a negative person and dwell on hate, anger, rage, ego.... You will have the same experiences after death.
I believe it is also true for the opposite.
I am crating my after life every day I wake up. No one ells is creating it for me. No person or book can tell me what my experiences will be like on this physical plane or beyond.

Just my $0.02 look forward to following this and this type of conversation fascinates me.
I love seeing how others resonate with questions like these!

Thank for posting!!

HA HA HA... of course right... Site goes down and you project!!

And in my case site went done and I still have yet to have a 100% full separation from my physical body!

Glad to hear you made it to, Congratulations! 

Sorry I could not be of more help. Hopefully a more experienced member can chime in for you!

Im assuming this is a joke right? Good one! 🤣🤣🤣

I was wondering this my self.

Interesting thought tho......!!

Did you find the recording on line or is it one you created yourself?

Would be interested to give it a go.

What do you mean you “turned off the alarm?” You have an alarm set that continues to ring until you turn it off?

I tried doing the technique on obe4u where you awake after 6 hours and stay awake / read and think about the phase.

https://obe4u.com/how-to-lucid-dream/

The first two steps can be skipped.

Any advice?

Thanks.

Xanth . I wonder how aware we are to even make that decision then and if that is even possible ... it may look overpopulated from here because we are not looking at the right problems.
good questions... but that just open more question for me ...Jeez! just when I thought I had it all figured out  

Well, there's more than enough resources on this Earth to go around... the problem is that there is too much greed for that to happen.
Who are we to make that decision?  Well, it's more a decision on ourselves to control our own population growth.

So who knows...

I believe that the "higher ups" aren't really concerned with earthlings' welfare in the way we might imagine or like. If the Earth would blow up or become unfit for biological life, that wouldn't be even a blip on their radar. They'd move their training grounds elsewhere, in a completely different setup. How much do we care about the welfare of our dream characters?

That's a very "human" way to look at it.  I've found that the life system doesn't quite work as such.  Nobody is "watching" things to that extreme.  What happens, happens.
If our world comes to a crashing end, then so be it.  When you look at things directly from the perspective of Consciousness, then you'll quickly see that it doesn't really matter one way or the other.
Consciousness endures regardless and experience continues in one form or another.

Long time since I had a lucid dream now. I have been sleeping badly the past few days, especially on my side. I ended up falling asleep on my back as few years before. I woke up early morning and had trouble falling asleep again and in these cases only inducing a dream will make me fall asleep. The thing is this time I somehow ended up remaining lucid(I don't remember the entry but think my imagination led to entering it lucid because I remained focused somehow, usually doesn't happen). So in the dream I immediately by feeling started playing amazing music in my consciousness and it was randomly made. Then I started focusing on things in the room to remain there and be more present, it worked. I started seeing a bookshelf with books and could clearly read what a few books were about. I could see clear detail for the staircase, walls and windows. I felt alive, free and relieved as usual. Pretty soon I fell victim to the dream and lost consciousness or woke up.

I almost forgot this but somehow when I woke up I thought about lucid dreams and remembered this. Beautiful experience being back there again. I am going to try this again tonight definitely. I feel I might have found out/found the feeling for beginning to get success with this method(hopefully). Interestingly enough as I went to sleep earlier that night I could hear random music that sounded amazing in my head(I used to have this ability, or at least with more ease 2-3 years back).

I believe that the "higher ups" aren't really concerned with earthlings' welfare in the way we might imagine or like. If the Earth would blow up or become unfit for biological life, that wouldn't be even a blip on their radar. They'd move their training grounds elsewhere, in a completely different setup. How much do we care about the welfare of our dream characters?

Xanth . I wonder how aware we are to even make that decision then and if that is even possible ... it may look overpopulated from here because we are not looking at the right problems.
good questions... but that just open more question for me ...Jeez! just when I thought I had it all figured out 

 
Hello again Nameless . So glad that you are feeling better. Good of you to get the med again. if you need to do drastic change do it slowly ...I just started yoga and also lost a few pounds after many months doing weight watcher, I think that alone has help me enormously to realize how food was playing a big role on how I felt. I think we are spending way to much time digesting and not give a deserve break to the system. If you want to change your body with a radical diet you can also get ride of many ailment especially before stoping any med, you may consider studying the effect of food. After reading Lightbeam's comment I had to share the amazing feeling that I got from practicing these simple water fast or watermelon. The clarity was incredible and it actually hurt to eat afterwords. So I slowly would eat light vegetable meals and at other time pig out because I could not help myself. that was so painful... What a lesson to do this every week though. I am still doing the fast for 24 hour throughout the winter on Tuesday before I go get weight. I actually lost 31. 6 Pounds = 3 big 10 pound baby if you want to imagine this...Wow I am still in shock but boy oh boy it was worth all the effort and now what I learn from my food intake made me realize the pain we create within when we consume. Often you hear some incredible transformation some will do with just diet , well I can say that its all there and it really put you in power if you take the time to analyze this. Not to costly and also recommended by doctors that see the importance on the food we ingest.  You may have to be carful and be follow by some professional if you are diabetic. I am trying to fast longer but that was hard to go more then three day with lots of water of course.
will be back soon, getting ready for a choir concert and moving parents in law in a home , not fun...
see you..