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 on: Yesterday at 13:22:02 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by Xanth
Well, "indiscriminate love" isn't quite what you think it is.  It's not "love" as in the emotion.  That's what everyone ends up confusing.  It's Love as in acceptance / understanding... the opposite of "Fear". 
If Fear is a retreating of self, then Love is an embracing of self.

Adyashanti uses the statement "Allow everything to be as it is" (within reason, obviously... ie: knife guy above)... and that's the crux of "unconditional love".
If you can allow someone to be as they are regardless of how you think they should be, THAT is the epitome of learning to love. 

And Plasma, you're right, nothing changes about YOU when you awaken/become enlightened.  What changes is your perspective, or how you view the world and those around you.

"Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."

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 on: Yesterday at 02:20:36 
Started by T-Man - Last post by Subtle Traveler
I probably would not have recommended that book purchase (as a first read). However, you may really like it.

Kenyon is a very clear channel. Also, the Monroe Institute likes him. They suggest him on their web site (which is how I found him). Tom vocalizes all sounds, as they are channeled through him by the non-physical beings he works with. He also has a lot of FREE stuff (sound recordings, channeled messages, sections of book and other writing) on his site:

tomkenyon.com

My book review of the Arcturian Anthology is at Amazon (if interested). You can also click on my 'Amazon' screen name and see the rest of my book reviews (including Ziewe, DeMarco, Buhlman).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R21ASPAB4RRDBH?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl

I will disclose that I was attracted to the Arcturian Anthology because it presented an explanation of Jeshua (for the first time) that resonated with me. As a kid, Jeshua (Jesus) presented himself to me (glowing in his light body) in a physical setting. During the entire experience, I was NOT out of body or dreaming (e.g., I remained consciously in a physical focus). After the experience, for years I sought out answers about the experience, but no one could explain it to me in a meaningful way. I also was not the only one who had the experience, so I eventually knew that I was NOT hallucinating (but during the experience I was not sure).

It is an experience that I have shared sparingly over the years, because too many misunderstand it. However, since you decided to read the book partly based on what I wrote above, I have briefly disclosed my Jeshua experience here.

Thanks for the chat. Have fun with the book!

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 on: Yesterday at 01:21:45 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by PlasmaAstralProjection
Anyway, at the moment, I believe that without purposefully educating ourselves, in the sense of "brain gymnastics" that develop our reasoning and understanding capabilities, we can't approach our full development potential as souls, no matter how much we succeed in indiscriminately loving around Smiley

I think that we should be compassionate, and love discriminately our fellow man, but do it both keeping under control our emotions, and apply a continually improved reasoning onto each situation.
Yo, this makes the most sense to me. BTW I'm not black. LOL But yeah this makes a lot of sense, I remember Szaxx saying that he uses wit to help with retrievals. And I would much rather be a witty, funny, smart angel than a clueless basic minded angel in a trillion years from now. LOL The question becomes how to best reach that place. I think college could help with that.

Also just because someone becomes enlightened doesn't mean that they automatically gain critical thinking, logic, and reason or a scientific mind set needed to merge science and spirituality. One can become a Zen devil by negating the reasoning, personal development, self discipline. Just Google "Becoming A Zen Devil."

So I see both sides of this coin. I just wonder sometimes if going to college for all these years are worth it. I guess I really just need to make up my mind what values I want to embody. It's hard though because there seems to be no hard set rules for this. But I got a general idea of the values I want. Just the depression really got me off track.

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 on: Yesterday at 00:28:55 
Started by T-Man - Last post by T-Man
Subtle Traveler,

Thank you for your very detailed response.  I have gone over some of the names you provided.  I have decided to give one of them a try.  I searched online and have purchased the Arcturian Nakura book/CD by Tom Kenyon.

I had used Ziewe's binaural beats in preparation, but the meditation tool which got me out of body was the Arcturian Nakura meditation (from Kenyon). I have reached the vibrational state consistently after listening to this particular meditation and then taking a nap (e.g., later waking to full consciousness). It is not for everyone though.

As you mentioned this isn’t for everyone.  I am always open to reading/listening to new things.  After I have the chance to read the book and listen to the mediation CD I will let you know what I think. 

I too have listened to the Miranon audio recordings from TMI and enjoyed them.  I actually listened to all the recordings that they have posted on their site a few months ago. 

I mainly listen to the (396/417/528/639/741/852 Hz) Solfeggio Sonic Mediations by Glen Harrold on my iPad during sleep as well as William Buhlman’s ‘How to have an Out of Body Experience’ chapter 16 affirmations.  I cycle thru these on a 3 week cycle.  I also have many Hemi-Sync mediation titles that I listen to in the evenings although I don’t listen to them every evening because most are about 1 hour long and some days it is very hard to find the time.  I do enjoy them very much though!

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 on: April 26, 2017, 23:57:11 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by baro-san
Depends entirely upon what you mean by education then.

Spiritual growth happens only on the non-physical level within the interactions we have with each other on a daily basis here.  It's the non-physical result of those interactions which govern your spiritual growth.
But what makes this physical reality a better environment for that spiritual growth to happen is BECAUSE of the ruleset and limitations this reality provides.  Essentially, it provides "risks".  Without taking risks (emotionally, physically, etc) there's nothing to push you to grow.  You can make the same decisions while non-physical and because there is very little risk involved in those decisions, there's very little reward as well.  It's not zero, but it's very small.

I dunno... it's extremely hard to put into words what I'm trying to say here and I KNOW what I'm saying is confusing and is going to be misunderstood.  All I can really say is that when you "GET IT", you'll get it.

If you're truly concerned about spiritual growth and reincarnation, then all you need to worry yourself about is how you treat your fellow consciousnesses which inhabit this Earth with you.
And that isn't limited to "humans"... everything.  Kindness.  Don't ACT kind.  BE kind.

So if that's the kind of education you're talking about, then yes.  I agree.  Smiley

Thank you for your thoughtful reply Smiley

For many years I asked myself, around, and rhetorically, questions like "why am I here?", "what am I supposed to do, and not do?". With age, I asked these kind of questions more often. When I got on the spiritual path more seriously, and I began reading and looking up information, I started to form hypotheses, and build models, then amend them, or radically replace them. Every new piece of information I subjectively deem worthwhile I try to fit into my current model, make it work together with the other pieces, leading to confirmations or adjustments.

One of the pieces I still have a hard time to fit is "love" in the sense you, and others, are using, often packaged as "unconditional love", which seems to me same with "indiscriminate love".

It is said that that kind of all around love is the feeling that encompasses the other superior dimensions, from where we pop up here to incarnate, and reincarnate over and over, an enormous number of times. It seems to me that if we come from "love", our souls already know it, and learning to "unconditionally love" here everybody and everything can't be the reason to incarnate. A typical counter argument is that loving and enabling somebody who does bad things makes you too responsible for those bad deeds.

At the moment I believe that what we need to learn is twofold: to improve our reasoning power, and to master our emotions. Not being able to master our emotions, like fear, hate, leads inevitably to have them spiral us down in a thought responsive environment. On the other fold, I believe that we were not created at our maximum reasoning potential, so we need to develop and sharpen it.

In my personal spiritual quest, when I started to employ self-hypnosis I made a significant jump ahead, in my opinion. For once, I was able to regress to past lives, and to life-between-lives dimensions. I was able, for most of those lives, to learn what was the lesson I was supposed to learn, to understand how karmically some lives are connected to others, to gradually map in time and space my journey.

None of the lessons I identified so far was "love" related, but I identified the first life when my reasoning stepped over a threshold that separated my lives in "mental obscurity" (marred by fear and survival instincts) from those those of "reason". It wasn't something I was looking for, and I was surprised to find it, then understand its importance.

Anyway, at the moment, I believe that without purposefully educating ourselves, in the sense of "brain gymnastics" that develop our reasoning and understanding capabilities, we can't approach our full development potential as souls, no matter how much we succeed in indiscriminately loving around Smiley

I think that we should be compassionate, and love discriminately our fellow man, but do it both keeping under control our emotions, and apply a continually improved reasoning onto each situation.

Sorry for the long post.

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 on: April 26, 2017, 21:51:51 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by Xanth
If you mean by "education" getting a diploma, then I agree. But "education" is so much more, and very important for the development of your mind.
Depends entirely upon what you mean by education then.

Spiritual growth happens only on the non-physical level within the interactions we have with each other on a daily basis here.  It's the non-physical result of those interactions which govern your spiritual growth.
But what makes this physical reality a better environment for that spiritual growth to happen is BECAUSE of the ruleset and limitations this reality provides.  Essentially, it provides "risks".  Without taking risks (emotionally, physically, etc) there's nothing to push you to grow.  You can make the same decisions while non-physical and because there is very little risk involved in those decisions, there's very little reward as well.  It's not zero, but it's very small.

I dunno... it's extremely hard to put into words what I'm trying to say here and I KNOW what I'm saying is confusing and is going to be misunderstood.  All I can really say is that when you "GET IT", you'll get it.

If you're truly concerned about spiritual growth and reincarnation, then all you need to worry yourself about is how you treat your fellow consciousnesses which inhabit this Earth with you.
And that isn't limited to "humans"... everything.  Kindness.  Don't ACT kind.  BE kind.

So if that's the kind of education you're talking about, then yes.  I agree.  Smiley

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 on: April 26, 2017, 21:26:25 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by baro-san
Hi,
I want to know if it's possible to experience other peoples lives. Especially those who've lived in the past and are dead.

Would I be able to experience the life of this man in the akashic records?
 ...
Thanks.

It seems to be possible up to a certain extent. While under self-hypnosis, Edgar Cayce was contacting the subconscious of his patients, to learn their maladies.

I found "The Approach of the Edgar Cayce Readings to Dreams and Dreaming by Brian Wilkinson - master thesis" a very interesting reading.

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 on: April 26, 2017, 21:16:43 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by baro-san
Well, let me tell you this... your education has zero bearing what-so-ever on your spiritual growth.  Smiley

If you mean by "education" getting a diploma, then I agree. But "education" is so much more, and very important for the development of your mind.

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 on: April 26, 2017, 21:12:08 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by baro-san
After you's told me that having kids wasn't required to have a good reincarnation I am rethinking my whole value system. I am in college right now and now I am questioning whether it's worth it to go for all that schooling right at this point. I am wondering if I should settle for something less ambitious.

So let me ask you what values do you think are the most important to live by here in the physical for a good reincarnation? Thanks.

1. Don't drop out of college, and even more: apply yourself there! You attend the college not for making more money later, but for joining an environment where people better themselves, where they develop their mental capabilities. Minimize your involvement in partying and brainwashing activities that are part of the package!

2. Lead your life as YOU think and feel is right, not how others tell you is right! You can't know which advice is good, which is bad. The Universe / God / whatever Higher Force will always, in long run, reward you according to what you did (thoughts, desires, actions). You just have to pay attention to what you get, and if you don't like it, it means you didn't do right, and have to change. Important: the payback isn't immediate, so you have to take a longer view, an average.

3. You incarnated to learn a lesson, while trying to accumulate as little as possible bad karma (on three planes: thoughts, desires, actions). As you can't remember now what is that lesson, try to find out through alternate state of consciousness. In my experience hypnosis, especially self-hypnosis is the best way.

Good luck!

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 on: April 26, 2017, 21:07:39 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by Xanth
You don't want to know what I've been thinking about to be happy. LOL And I don't mean psychedelics. But I get what you mean, sometimes I just wonder if all this stressful hard College work is worth it. At the same time I want to get a good reincarnation so I feel like I should finish College. I've just got mixed thoughts on this whole thing.
Well, let me tell you this... your education has zero bearing what-so-ever on your spiritual growth.  Smiley

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