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 on: Today at 05:54:12 
Started by curiousone - Last post by curiousone
Hey there,I have been lurking here since forever and I have gained a lot of knowledge,the problem is I have aphantasia (aka lack of mind's eye- I absolutely cannot visualise) (2 percent of population is born this way). All the tips,techniques for astral projection and phasing are techniques that utilise visualisation, so Can anyone give me other practical methods Nd techniques that do not require visualisation. NOTE- I do get the occasional lucid dream

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 on: Today at 04:23:42 
Started by Fresco - Last post by Fresco
I had another LD last night.  Very short though, maybe 1 or 2 seconds.
I gotta find a way to make these things last longer   undecided

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 on: Today at 04:13:02 
Started by Nameless - Last post by Nameless
Plume I am so glad you joined us. I don't care whether you write a lot or just a little. I love hearing from you, you have a way of looking at the world in general and making it make sense. Your writing has improved so much, I know that's something you have been working on. Congratulations girl.

That true love of life, that passion is definitely something we need to notice and build on. You're right, doesn't really matter if that love is for the here or the there and split between both long as we happy we can explore it deeply.

Hugs

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 on: Today at 02:33:09 
Started by Rob29 - Last post by baro-san
For me the exit technique is not about getting out of body. It's about confirming I am already out of body. ...

Very good point!

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 on: Yesterday at 22:16:53 
Started by Rob29 - Last post by floriferous
For me the exit technique is not about getting out of body. It's about confirming I am already out of body.

What I mean by this is that the mind does a great job of replicating the physical body when you first move out of body. Sometimes I find i am already out of body but my non-physical body is lying in bed and i am wondering if I'm ever going to get out of body.

I never use exit techniques anytime before being at the the threshold of an OBE. I think a lot of people start employing them too early. I personally never found they help get me to the threshold. They have only helped me over the threshold once I am there. It sounds like you need to work more on relaxing to get to the threshold first. I think actually using an exit technique to relax more deeply is not great either because there is a pressure associated with them. I am actively pushing myself away from the physical and you are constantly wondering if you have made it yet. For me that's not relaxing. It sounds forceful. But that's just my opinion.

I personally would focus on indirect OBEs and get some experience under your belt before going straight for a direct OBE.  That way you'll know more of what an OBE looks and feels like for you.  Once you know that then you won't be constantly analyzing the process when trying for a direct OBE (which is obviously detrimental to the whole process). Instead you'll just let it unfold.

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 on: Yesterday at 13:50:37 
Started by SCHMUSTIN - Last post by EscapeVelocity
Sorry about your loss friend. Lost my dad 8 years ago.

It hurts for awhile for very good reasons.

Comforting wishes to you and your family,
EV

 17 
 on: Yesterday at 12:18:53 
Started by Nameless - Last post by Plume
 grin Nameless...
well I came here because You are here of course grin
... And I should also say that there is some very interesting curious explorers here, like you, that I want to stay in contact with for sure rolleyes wink cool
I guess we all need to have some contact and conversation that are stimulating and listening to stories that can make us see the different ways we perceive, at the same time realize how similar we are when we react to our experiences.
Becoming aware and understand the power we have is probably my main drive because it feels that it is how we can create and co create. When we take the time to look into this form of exploration, we see how a good investment it is and we all can to contribute to this type of research for future understanding. I can only imagine that looking into the subtle realms will be in the future seriously explored, maybe much more easily by everyone and maybe one day become a field of research well respected. That alone is worth keeping the conversation going. I feel that deeply, only because I value my dreams and experiences to be as important then what I experience in my awaken time.

We all have mysterious and strange experiences but many may not relate them to what is happening around or see how its being manifested or reflected. Paying attention to those experiences and giving value does help see a bigger picture , maybe it is not needed when you can see how some people are living fully in there physical choices and enjoy all what there is to offer here.
That true love of life reflects the incredible powerful forces we all have available either way we choose to explore.
It always amuse me when I watch my husband and son listening to youtube and looking at those crazy passionate car racers or builders of incredible machines, just listening to their mad passionate voices in the background makes me realize that there is a true love existing  in so many ways and being express. That passionate energy and harmony we share in our home does make me feel alive and happy that we are different... 
Lets keep that conversation ... I also need to write more  grin forgot to say that rolleyes
Tourloo
Plume

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 on: Yesterday at 03:16:22 
Started by SCHMUSTIN - Last post by SCHMUSTIN
Hey hon, just popping back in to give you another warm hug. (((hug)))

Nameless... Thank you.... cheesy cheesy cry

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 on: Yesterday at 03:05:13 
Started by Rob29 - Last post by SCHMUSTIN
OP,
 
Please keep in mind, I am by no means an expert on this subject but have had a couple separations and a couple partial separations with all sorts of degrees of non-physical sensations.

So here is my input and I am sure there are people on here that will correct me, if I am incorrect.
All the "techniques" you read about basically push you to focus outside your body and usually involve some type of movement. Such as... hammock (rocking), rope (climbing), etc...

I found, that in the start, I would use these and nothing would happen.  huh
My mind would always wonder and then I was fighting to bring it back to the "rope" to continue climbing.

All these do is get you to focus out of the body and put some sort or feeling of movement. You could use anything you wanted, skateboard, driving, riding a horse, literally almost anything.

What I have had the most success with is using these to start out... Once I am relaxed my mind usually drifts away and now, I take that as sign to move on. At which point I will quickly do a relaxation check and slowly work from my toes to the top of my head and ensure I am total relaxed.

Now, I like the counting method, its easiest and straight forward (and for some reason for me it works to keep the mind aware).
I count backwards from 100. One thing I like is if my mind wanders I can slowly bring it back to a number. So to explain: I start at 100 then 99 then 98 and so on.
If I loose track I just start where ever I want. Say I make it to 76 and then my mind wanders or grabs on to a colorful swirl, object or scene, I may start at 48 or 95 and just keep counting.  I find counting is easier on the mind than having to find a rope and move your arms.... that sort of stuff.

Now the counting method has no movement but for some reason it works for me.

I count backward as it takes a little more effort. At some point I quit counting and just cautiously view what is going on, not paying to much attention to one giving thing. I have found that if I am getting to involved with what is going on i automatically just go back to counting to bring my mind back on track. LOL need to keep it under control.

Moral of my story is don't get to hung up on the techniques... what works for me may not work for you.

Hope this helps... Would appreciate hearing if you had any success.

Best of luck!


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 on: Yesterday at 02:45:37 
Started by Nameless - Last post by Nameless
Thank you both (group hug). The both of you Stillwater and DancingBear seem very grounded and balanced. The both of you have said some inspiring things as well. It's this balanced approached that calms the waters helps each of us stay our course even when we aren't sure which way our course is going.

Much respect and love to you. smiley

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