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 21 
 on: November 20, 2017, 23:50:54 
Started by APApprentice - Last post by SCHMUSTIN
Not necessarily diminishes. It just gets hard to keep your focus.  This is why "click outs" occur. Sometimes you get in too deep and totally lose your "conscious" awareness on the scenario at hand. Other times we tend to click out too when the scenario creates a kind of "system overload" on us. Too much info, too intense, something creates a "shut down".
 Yes, intended target of destination is a must. You are now in a realm where thought = action is instantaneous. So now, you have to also learn how to control that "thinking" there.

 No, I still gets "fear tests". It really does help your awareness level though and yes, you have to trust. But that trust came through the notion that I have been experiencing this being touched thing, since I was a little boy. It used to terrify me and I immediately yanked the blankets over my head. But the more it happened, the more I realized that I always returned "unscathed" and by that understanding I developed "trust".

Lumaza,

Great post. Tanks for the great write up.  grin grin

 22 
 on: November 20, 2017, 23:46:35 
Started by Illuman - Last post by Illuman
Thank you Lumaza Smiley I appreciate the response.  As someone who has virtually no experience in any of this.  (Hell I cant recall dreaming for many many many years prior to what got me to come here a few months ago in the first place)  That leaves me having to build the foundation from the ground up and without a frame of reference.  Appreciate any and all input. 

To begin, what I had meant by not scratching is I successfully mentally blocked it out.  I knew it was to test my grit so to speak and I made it through that.  And the other various ticks so to speak.  (I had let them interrupt me too much in the past and tried to come to this realization consciously this time) The reason I thought it was counter productive in the past was because of the pull of attention from NP to P.  Of course that is just my rough interpretation based on the myriad of posts on this forum. 

Secondly, thank you very much some some clarification.  I guess I have zero idea what it is I am looking for, or attempting to accomplish because for all intents and purposes I have no framework with which to envision this.  So as I understand it that lens focusing (much like when you go to the eye Dr.  and they flick back and forth those glasses, but minus any color.  Just like (This one or this one?) but variations of dark.  So let me get this clear this is an initial point where I dont just observe?  If/when I get to that perception change of sorts I use intent to "go there"  There being the darkness?  Or the specs of light that were coming through?  Its hard to know what to focus on, especially when most places say to lose focus and just let be.

Sorry if I dont fully understand, believe me I am trying.  But its like someone trying to explain something 100% foreign to me.  Maybe no longer 100% but you get my drift.  Thank you for your time.

 23 
 on: November 20, 2017, 23:32:49 
Started by Illuman - Last post by Lumaza
4 pm 11-20 everyone in the house took a nap so decided to break out some binaural beats.  The 30 min om one I did also put the other one on a playlist from multidimensional man.  Got through a full hour of laying completely still. I didn't readjust for anything. Itches eyes watering outside movement. It did take my attention momentarily but of always kept on.  At various points through both tracks the darkness would begin movement.  Overlapping variations of dark.  With specs of light thrown in like something wanted to come into focus.   I also distinctly recall there being a few times when my vision would adjust like trying to focus a picture.  Like an entirely different view of the dark. Nothing much changed except my perception of that darkness.  Nothing spectacular but I fully expect it to translate tonight into dreams. Ill keep documenting.
First off. there is nothing wrong with scratching a itch or slightly re adjusting yourself. It's only counter productive if you think is. When I first get a itch, I will mentally try to lose it, by focusing anew. If that doesn't work, I don't fight it. I just reach a passive scratch it.

 
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Nothing much changed except my perception of that darkness.  Nothing spectacular but I fully expect it to translate tonight into dreams. Ill keep documenting.
When your perception of he darkness changes, you are entering the void. This is where you make a intent and go there or be there. You got to the last hurdle, then you stopped. I found that's the final "test". How much longer will you go. How bad do you want it. This isn't where you pressure yourself. This is where you relax into the void and see what's "there". It's also a great place of healing and place of solace, where you work on new things, projects, etc. In other words, this a place where thought = action is extremely active. That's why the thought of a Demon, while in sleep paralysis, brings on the Demon experience itself.

 Years ago, I was in our local Mall with a Kiosk at Christmas time. We were selling Himalayan Salt Lamps and they have a "spiritual" side to them, so my booth also attracted customers of that nature. So do the Dragons that sell.
 A husband and wife came to see me and told me their daughter was having terrible nightmares. I told them to send her to me. I talked to her and found out she was always being chased by some big creature. I told her, "You are the one that's the outsider there and that everyone in that realm looks like that. He just wants a friend". I also told her to give the cookie in her hand to him as a peace treaty, sign of friendship. She did and few days later she ran up to my Kiosk and gave me a big hug. End of nightmares for her. Once again, changing a mindset, changed the reality as well.  smiley

 24 
 on: November 20, 2017, 23:18:08 
Started by Lumaza - Last post by Lumaza
 The Astral Pulse has lost it's "pulse" lately. Maybe we can return it back to active again by engaging some fun challenges, that will definitely be beneficial in the long run.

 The Focus challenge is on length of "targeted focus", completely unabated. This one will be to see how long you can hold your focus on one scenario or focus target. It can be the length of time you can hold your focus on breathing, on a tactile sensation, a scent, staring into the darkness before your closed eyes or some imaginative activity or experience itself.

 At first 10 seconds even sounds hard. But you will get better. There is no need to share here to boast for ego purposes. Be truthful, in the end, it only matters to yourself anyways. It's not a contest. It's a "personal" challenge.

 You must hold that focus, completely unabated and "only" on that target of focus. Once you lose it, start the timer again. Also, keep a eye on how long it takes until your target of focus begins to morph into a full blown scenario. Not necessarily "mini Pictures". Flitting around, shows lack of direct focus.

 Here is what I find.
 50 seconds-1 minute, you are getting better. Keep going. If this is your first time with this technique, you may be experiencing actual "Astral Signposts".
 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html

 1 minute-2 minutes, you may be experiencing morphing in your experiences now. You may have begun the exercise with a focused target, but now that target is taking on a life of it's own and you are there "passively observing" it.

 5-10, you are well into a shift, if you haven't already shifted.

 ...more than 10 minutes, you are already "there" and because of that, you don't know how long you have been. Time no longer has relevance. You are thoroughly consciously aware wherever you have found yourself.
 
 We have to exclude Lucid Dreaming from this challenge. I know with LDing you are still ending up in "NP" focus. But with LDing, you are not going from start to finish consciously aware. LDing has it's own challenges, that of becoming consciously aware "in" them and then reacting in a totally conscious manner to them as well as well.  That's enough challenge there itself!  rolleyes

 Try this. You have nothing to lose, but quite a bit to gain. Share or don't share. Have fun with it. I think that's where people go so strong. The pressure and seriousness they put on themselves to succeed. We normally have our first experience and our curiosity steers the way. The next time, we pressure ourselves to experience it once again. That's why it's so much harder to do.
 Relax, release, let go and "allow" yourself to "see" and you will be "shown".
 By doing fun challenges, like the one above, you can learn to get there. Then if you want to keep your serious mindset, go for it. This takes nothing away from the spiritual side of this practice. Exercises like the one above are there to fine tune and learn to really hold onto a strong NP awareness. Once there you can search out your deceased Family member/mentor or access the Akashic records, do your own personal experimenting, etc..

Here is a link to a great primer for this exercise. Try it. I used my own Binaural Beats, Isochronic tones when I did/do it though.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTiCV5Vh2LQ

 
 

 25 
 on: November 20, 2017, 22:22:01 
Started by Illuman - Last post by Illuman
4 pm 11-20 everyone in the house took a nap so decided to break out some binaural beats.  The 30 min om one I did also put the other one on a playlist from multidimensional man.  Got through a full hour of laying completely still. I didn't readjust for anything. Itches eyes watering outside movement. It did take my attention momentarily but of always kept on.  At various points through both tracks the darkness would begin movement.  Overlapping variations of dark.  With specs of light thrown in like something wanted to come into focus.   I also distinctly recall there being a few times when my vision would adjust like trying to focus a picture.  Like an entirely different view of the dark. Nothing much changed except my perception of that darkness.  Nothing spectacular but I fully expect it to translate tonight into dreams. Ill keep documenting.

 26 
 on: November 20, 2017, 21:34:33 
Started by APApprentice - Last post by Lumaza
Do you find that consciousness diminishes the longer youíre out? Or does it become sharper? How would you define being conscious in the astral?
Not necessarily diminishes. It just gets hard to keep your focus.  This is why "click outs" occur. Sometimes you get in too deep and totally lose your "conscious" awareness on the scenario at hand. Other times we tend to click out too when the scenario creates a kind of "system overload" on us. Too much info, too intense, something creates a "shut down".

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This is what Iím wondering; when we have a ę to do list Ľ and we exit and immediately begin accomplishing things on said list, are we conscious or is it simply a case of preprogrammed thoughts? For me, I do the things I set out to do when Iím out but I also carry out actions that are not conscious. Iíll just do something without really thinking before doing.
Yes, intended target of destination is a must. You are now in a realm where thought = action is instantaneous. So now, you have to also learn how to control that "thinking" there.


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I presume youíve already passed your fear tests lol because had I been grabbed by my ankles , I wouldíve opted out lol. Have you wholeheartedly embraced the idea that no harm can come to you? Lol

Sometimes Iím tempted to to ask for help but the thought of feeling another beingís hands on me creeps me out lol. Hopefully one day Iíll become totally fearless like you
No, I still gets "fear tests". It really does help your awareness level though and yes, you have to trust. But that trust came through the notion that I have been experiencing this being touched thing, since I was a little boy. It used to terrify me and I immediately yanked the blankets over my head. But the more it happened, the more I realized that I always returned "unscathed" and by that understanding I developed "trust".

 27 
 on: November 20, 2017, 21:23:54 
Started by T-Man - Last post by Lumaza
 The first thing I learned, via a Guide/Mentor, (this being my deceased Brother-in law) was the value and importance of "passively observing". You will always know when it's time to give that "commanded" prompt to the scenario.

 28 
 on: November 20, 2017, 18:41:57 
Started by T-Man - Last post by Volgerle
Observing (without emotion) is certainly a good strategy.

But to achieve sth maybe try to give a command showing your strong intent instead of asking question.

Instead of 'can you help me with this?' just say 'help me with this'.

There's nothing bad about being a bit of a boss in the non-physical.

 29 
 on: November 20, 2017, 16:41:19 
Started by Illuman - Last post by Illuman
Before I forget I wanted to self access a bit.

I believe currently that one of the reasons for my lack of success (that is for lack of a better term,  it is most definitly success in terms of me thinking about this and still pursuing it, not success in the traditional sense of having an OBE or achieved the end result, however success can be measured in many ways, failures are often small successes) anyways one of the reasons is fear.  For whatever reason I think it has to do with not wanting to change so much that I become my father (IE. I leave my family and make my kids grow up without a father) however irrational this is it was a huge imprint on me growing up and it obviously built who I am today.  Everything ive done has been to not be him.  Why I didnt drink until over 21, or do drugs, or smoke for a very very long time.  Eventually I didnt let that control me and I went to experience these things,  likely to understand WHY.  Thankfully I made it out on the other side without repeating the mistakes of my parents.  IE.  neglect of my children and the seperation of my family.  (Even though I was cheated on and could have easily ran away)  Instead I had a moment of clarity where I removed myself from the situation and just contemplated MY part in it.  Anyhow that led to not placing blame, and understanding that I had a part in that event as much as she did. 

I think I am starting to break free from some of the fear blockages and I expect it will lead to more dreams, or lucid experiences.  Having never done an OBE I still have this irrational fear in the back of my head that I will chose not to come back and essentially leave my family the same way I was left as a child (like ill die or just not come back)  even though I know (KNOW) this reality is not everything I do not want to stunt the growth of those I love by selfish action.  (Something along those lines)  and not having the experience within the NP leads to an unknown,  an irrational fear.  Even though I read about all the people who have done it, explored themselves and came back I myself dont know that.  If that makes sense.  I have a very large dislike for being controlled and the fears that have been built up through my life are a control mechanism (likely a survival thing not sure)  I do know that I am sick of it and refuse to give my power to fear.  This is such an expansive new world with a cornucopia  of information it is so easy to take some new piece of information and infect it with fear. 

Okay sorry for the rant I had to put this here so I can see it and reflect on it and remember it as I document my experiences.

 30 
 on: November 20, 2017, 16:28:36 
Started by T-Man - Last post by Illuman
Yeah recently I have been under the impression that the reasons for our teachings are to make us DO so to speak.  Essentially training to become your own creator instead of being limited to others creations.  (Dont know if I expressed my thoughts on this properly)  Anyhow in my estimation this life is training.  The smile for me is fairly important (but obviously each experience is relevant to the individual, so take it how you will) the question for me seems to have been answered.

You seem to have gotten it exactly.  The chains themselves are questions, uncertainty, belief that the answers are outside yourself, that the guide you saw was anything but a part of yourself.  I have a feeling you are on the right path, and while the questions themselves may not be the chains it may be the manner in which you give power to outside forces rather than trust that it all comes from within and you are accessing yourself so to speak.  (Now mind you this is just a novices opinion, but I hope my reply makes something sit well with you and just reaffirm your thoughts on that you are making progress and doing exactly what you need.  Your teaching yourself in an infinite number of ways through various parts of yourself (as we all are) as you may well know each child or person learns differently than another based on experiences. 

(Dont mean to be intrusive, I am just deciding to become more active on the forums so this topic permeates my thoughts on a regular basis, I am trying not to fall into old habbits and put this by the wayside again)

Best wishes to you,  with every person who succeeds and documents or shares the ball keeps rolling. 

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