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 on: Today at 02:37:27 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by RobertForsythe
My intuition has always told me that Satan is a control mechanism that was created by the Church to control others by "fear". I will stick with that belief until I am "proven" wrong, however long that shall take!

What does your intuition tell you about 'gravity'?
What does you intuition tell you about the ubiquitous and inevitable 'adversary' and 'deceiver' that presents itself constantly?

What "Church" are you talking about? Islam? Catholic/Christian? Hebrew? Buddhist? Hindu? Taoist? Shamanist/tribal?

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 on: Today at 02:31:16 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by Nameless

"My intuition has always told me that Satan is a control mechanism that was created by the Church to control others by "fear". I will stick with that belief until I am "proven" wrong, however long that shall take!"

Interestingly enough Lumaza I also feel this way about God.

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 on: Today at 02:13:38 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by Lumaza
 Why is this thread in this Sub-Forum? It has nothing to do with Astral Projection or Out of Body Experiences?  huh huh huh

 I agree fully with Nameless "People are making claims all over the world and many of them believe their claim to be the ultimate truth. Why should I give more credence to them than I do to my own intuition?"

 My intuition has always told me that Satan is a control mechanism that was created by the Church to control others by "fear". I will stick with that belief until I am "proven" wrong, however long that shall take!

  


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 on: Today at 02:00:41 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by RobertForsythe
I think Satan is just a metaphor for an aspect of consciousness. It is very similar, if not identical to the concept of the Jedi and the Sith. They are disciplines, ways of life, a set of decisions.

So why personify Satan? Two reasons, early humans were nigh incapable of entertaining abstract concepts, this mindset has been studied and was still prevalent as little as 50 years ago. Satan as a concrete individual hiding behind the curtain was the only way to get people to comprehend the topic.

ThaomasOfGrey, Where do you think Creation came from?
Where do you think you came from?

 25 
 on: Today at 00:06:27 
Started by Sammie - Last post by Sammie
I've started to feel this in the recent days again? It feels very nice indeed, but im still unsure exactly what this is or means.

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 on: Yesterday at 23:59:58 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by ThaomasOfGrey
I think Satan is just a metaphor for an aspect of consciousness. It is very similar, if not identical to the concept of the Jedi and the Sith. They are disciplines, ways of life, a set of decisions.

So why personify Satan? Two reasons, early humans were nigh incapable of entertaining abstract concepts, this mindset has been studied and was still prevalent as little as 50 years ago. Satan as a concrete individual hiding behind the curtain was the only way to get people to comprehend the topic.

The second reason is that most people in this reality are extroverts - they derive inspiration and their energy from beings they perceive as being outside of themselves. For this reason it is necessary to view concepts like God or Satan as being real individuals to act as a source of external motivation. Look at how often people thank God for things they have achieved by their own merit. It also makes it easier to write off negativity as an external influence to be ignored.

As an introvert I experience everything as being driven from within. It is a different way / perspective on taking control of consciousness.

Maybe there really are some dimensional entities that exhibit these traits - the idea that they talk to us seems like a stretch - every thought that enters your mind will have some predication on the experience you have had thus far, or it is outside your frame of reference. I don't think it is possible to have external influence of this kind - that includes spirit guides too. I get communication from "guides" constantly but I believe it is 100% me.

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 on: Yesterday at 23:39:06 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by RobertForsythe
Satan is a natural force? Do you mean that we are evil by nature? Explain more please : )

Yes, Satan is a natural force. That doesn't mean *we* are evil by nature. That doesn't logically follow at all. It is more like the Universe of Creation is Negative by nature. As a homework assignment on this you might want to do some reading on your own;

Genesis
The Greek Archetypes
Shiva, Vishnu & Brahm

 28 
 on: Yesterday at 22:40:42 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by Volgerle
I guess many won't click on your links because they indeed look fishy.

On topic: I agree with Robert. It's a kind of energy / force or whatever you label it as part of and in our dualistic (good/bad, hot/cold, ying-yang) dimension we are in.

 evil

 29 
 on: Yesterday at 22:37:26 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by fatfooty
fatfooty, that link you gave goes to download that looks very fishy to me.

Why don't you just quickly summarize a few of the key points?

To say you don't believe in Satan is like saying you don't believe in gravity. Satan is just an anthropomorphized version of a naturally occurring force that is pervasive throughout creation.

 Satan (Hebrew: שָּׂטָן‎‎ satan, meaning "enemy" or "adversary"; Arabic: شيطان‎‎ shaitan, meaning; "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray.


Many people find opposition to be scary and being led astray to be evil, thus these characteristics are ascribed to him.


That link works, you just need to wait 5 sec and click the skip button that should appear on top of the page.

Satan is a natural force? Do you mean that we are evil by nature? Explain more please : )

 30 
 on: Yesterday at 21:34:26 
Started by fatfooty - Last post by RobertForsythe
He is by common sense a masculine figure, a fallen angel from the heavens but I don't believe this crap.
May be you should read the information on this link: http://adf.ly/1eHih3


fatfooty, that link you gave goes to download that looks very fishy to me.

Why don't you just quickly summarize a few of the key points?

To say you don't believe in Satan is like saying you don't believe in gravity. Satan is just an anthropomorphized version of a naturally occurring force that is pervasive throughout creation.

 Satan (Hebrew: שָּׂטָן‎‎ satan, meaning "enemy" or "adversary"; Arabic: شيطان‎‎ shaitan, meaning; "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray.


Many people find opposition to be scary and being led astray to be evil, thus these characteristics are ascribed to him.

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