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 21 
 on: September 22, 2017, 17:00:40 
Started by BrainStorm_wow - Last post by Nameless
Me Me!!! LOL

 22 
 on: September 22, 2017, 16:56:06 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by Nameless
Wow EV, this was one grand experience. I know you most likely don't need my input but at the same time I know we love to toss around ideas. smiley

My first thought was 'paths'. Which one - the high ground, the low ground or the most straight forward. Of course you chose the most straightforward. Your lucidity might have been low but you got more than I think I would have.

Haha, I think you have indeed met the 'surgical astral team'. They may not appear to be very capable but I'm betting they are far more competent than they look.

 23 
 on: September 22, 2017, 16:30:01 
Started by BrainStorm_wow - Last post by BrainStorm_wow
Are there any supplements that would aid in astral projection?

 24 
 on: September 22, 2017, 12:40:10 
Started by superman - Last post by funfire
Thanks for the links.  grin

 25 
 on: September 22, 2017, 12:29:19 
Started by PureExp - Last post by PureExp
did you help make this in any way, i ask because of thee two swan symbols are similar

Sorry for late reply. Yes, I'm involved in development of those apps. There is a series of apps about spiritual stuff. Smiley

 26 
 on: September 22, 2017, 08:28:32 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by EscapeVelocity
Often for me, a NP experience needs a few weeks to coalesce, to condense into a story I can relate in what feels a trustworthy and authentic form. Some aspects, some ideas just need additional time to sort of percolate; I don't wish to mislead or mis-interpret for the reader or myself; I have learned to trust the need for that delay and not to simply rush forward and post something new.

In this case, two realizations came forward: One about an old experience and one about this particular experience, possibly...

This experience-

August 24, 2017   Thursday-early morning-

Not much sleep last night, surprising by getting a final hour of sleep that I am treated to this low-awareness LD, a 3-part adventure.

Scene 1- Several of us are dropped off from a bus at a large outdoor auto auction. We make our way to the main auction block as I make conversation about how these kinds of auctions operate to the Indian/Asian fellow following me. He carries a staff (which vaguely makes me aware that he is a guide) and responds in a neutral manner to my commentary. The auction is ending just as we arrive at the auction block, a unique and beautiful bright orange US domestic convertible, circa 1950's with flared fenders is just exiting and driving back to the storage lots; it is especially appealing to me.

Fade out/fade in 

Scene 2- With the auction ended, we are challenged with multiple paths back to the main parking lots. The first path is an incredible stone stairway that arcs high up into a clear blue sky, some three hundred steps upward and over, with a handrail to the left side but a terrible fall of hundreds of feet off to the right. The hundreds of steps doesn't bother me but the height is a minor issue. My 'guide' says no way to the distance or the height, so I search for alternatives. To my immediate right is a series of dark and descending tunnels, which I trust can get me to the parking lots (transition areas) but I instinctively know these can be troublesome with uncertain distractions and possibly get us lost. My mind rationalizes an alternative and I immediately perceive a set of double-swinging doors, which I know will take us to the main atrium of the auction house, whereby we can simply walk out the "front door".

Fade out/fade in

My 'guide' and I are now seated at a table in a cafeteria; the female server hands us menus but he seems unfamiliar so it is an opportunity for me to prattle on about just how the menu is arranged, but of course, my awareness is hovering around a 3 or 4 (scale of 10).The server places 4 cookie-sized cardboard wafers before us that describe the various breads available. This is initially confusing and a bit comical as I push each one toward my companion offering him to try each card-board delicacy. I am still trying to read my menu and make a lunch choice but the numbers are confusing. Then it seems that I am required to pencil the number of my choice on a selection card and I am struggling to turn a 5 into a 15, when the lady server steps up (an Instructor likely) and declares, " It looks like you are getting a 6.", very clearly and unceremoniously...which I suddenly realize is the Level of Dream I am going to get...

Fade out/fade in

I am in a similar cafeteria, much more hospital-like, my sub-sandwich on a plate in front of me and a strange, older woman seated opposite me. She is babbling almost incoherently, and taking pieces off her sandwich- slices of baloney, pepperoni, lettuce- and placing them on my plate...she doesn't want these...I am a bit bothered by these actions...I am not sure how to respond to the situation...

I am unclear as to what is going on, still being in a fairly low-level awareness, but I know her difficulty is now the central issue. She reminds me for a moment, of my concern for my mother's possible eventual senility, so that is a distraction momentarily. She says to me, "It hasn't been worth it if we haven't found anything of value in all these antique fairs; not me, not you, your brother or your daughter..!"

Antique auctions have no relation to my family so this realization allows me some psychological distance from her issues...so I ask her 'How can I help you?' 'What is wrong?' Unfortunately, this does not get a response, as she lowers her head into her folded arms to begin an uncontrollable sobbing, and I continue asking how I can help...

As her head lowers, two children are revealed to be standing behind her. The image is a 10 year old girl, putting on a winter-jacket, backwards onto her 8 year old brother...arms first, backwards...it doesn't make any obvious sense to me, at first...

The boy is looking at me very directly as his sister puts the jacket on him, and says matter-of-factly, "Gymnastics."

I say back to him- "You or me?"

He says, "Maybe both..."

Fade out


..................a dear friend turned me onto the rather esoteric idea of "the surgical astral team"...a group of rather short dudes, kind of a WW1 surgical team that responds to these issues...it took a few weeks to realize that the picture of a little sister putting a winter coat backwards onto a little brother may have been a simple mis-interpretation of one of the little "guys" being suited up in the appropriate surgical garb to take on a retrieval...

Always wondering...






 27 
 on: September 22, 2017, 08:24:24 
Started by MarsZM - Last post by Visitor
There are two reasons we sleep.

One is to reboot the physical brain which cannot survive without a cold reboot at least once every 3-4 days max.  Plenty have tried with pills to go longer but find the brain goes into severe decline.  In our deepest R.E.M. The brain and body is rebooted and any update is applied.  Rather like computers! 

we also are busy working elsewhere and sometimes need to have that window to regain the energy for use elsewhere.  Physical is rather demanding so we devote a lot of our energy to the here and now...while we are here.  Some of us have concurrent incarnations going.....a lot of dedicated energy.....it's good to,release and regain some of it during sleep.

When we are gone and are in our light bodies....we don't need rest.  And we use our consciousness trillions of times or more everywhere needed without problems. 

It's just physical density that's so demanding.  And I believe paradoxically....so restful.


 28 
 on: September 22, 2017, 08:14:04 
Started by Scrispy - Last post by Visitor
My post didn't quite make the sense I wanted...typo...I meant helpers...guides...off work support team...whatever you want to call them.....!

Desert-rat the point is they can't go anywhere because they are stuck with unresolved issues related to physical.  We in physical have a lower rate of vibrational energy to fit into this consciousness so are able to approach and help far easier than those not incarnated here.  Especially lower levels in astral. 

We continue our work irrespective of whether we recall it or not.  If recall causes us turbulence and upset....it's easy enough to block recall.  Just ask and it is done.  No one can interfere even if it upsets you because of free will respect....so if you don't ask...you don't get. 

I find that anything I am confused about or need some insight...or block.... I just ask.  Within a few days I find I have received my clarifying response one way or other .....


 29 
 on: September 22, 2017, 05:15:24 
Started by Selski - Last post by EscapeVelocity
That is an excellent insight catmeow! Yes, very possibly a "loop". And Selski provided what Frank would call an "interrupt" to break the cycle of thought that was trapping him.

Selski, I will write that LD out shortly...still some concepts sorting themselves in this one for me. I guess I should also start an "experience" journal here and collect my more notable ones...

 30 
 on: September 22, 2017, 03:28:30 
Started by Scrispy - Last post by desert-rat
Personaly  I would try to help them .  Tell them to go to the light ect. 

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