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 on: Yesterday at 10:04:23 
Started by beavis - Last post by Robert Baird
Dear Beavis

This is a factual and well-written exposition with good insight throughout. I like how you kept an open mind as you faced each possible area of influence.

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 on: Yesterday at 09:57:58 
Started by Robert Baird - Last post by Robert Baird
Bi-Location, Padre Pio and Pythagoras



http://forum.wingmakers.co.uk/viewto...516&start=1850



 Golda here is an interesting article about bi-location, let me know if you have already seen it. 

 BI-LOCATION (PADRE PIO & PYTHAGORAS):

 - I have some experience with an even more 'fantastic' occurrence that ties in with dematerialization. Some approaches to the Bermuda Triangle might even be part of a dimensional shift and the time/worm hole science, which String Theorists and chaos science are able to provide arcane formulations to prove.

 My own experience is not a physical 'bi-location' so it would have astral or other simpler connections. Still, what the difference is between physical and metaphysical might be a large part of the whole reality we are struggling to conceptualize. Whether we call it 'The Theory of Everything' like Stephen Hawking and Einstein or the Unified Force Field of Tesla and Michael Faraday we are treading in some truly exotic territory. Though that is true, there are many exotic realities to be considered and 'denial' isn't a river in Egypt. That is one of the places that Pythagoras (born to at least one acknowledged Phoenician) went to learn some very amazing things from the Pyramid. There are numerous people who reported upon his 'bi-location' experiences. These same people are considered credible when they report other things. Michael Grant is arguably the top modern classical history scholar and he writes that Pythagoras had some 'weird' ideas, even as he acknowledges he knows little about the things that were understood so well by and about a sage who affected all areas of life in his time. He reports these stories as fairly as can be expected for a person who has no basis to judge such things. The idea of 'bi-location' certainly is 'weird' but so are parallel universes, dark matter, intelligent design, cold fusion and a whole host of genetic, robotic and other scientific realities starting with computers which are about to include quantum teleporting gates.

 For those who want a little more insight to Pythagoras and the Pythagorean Brotherhood we have an entry under Croton. The issue of 'bi- location' itself relates to a variety of other concepts and mysteries but if it is a purely physical experience it might involve time and dimensional shifts, both.

 "After Saint Therese Neumann, Padre Pio {Carmelites are very psychic Christians whose learning may include the things of Enoch and Jasher, which sadly were removed from the Bible.} is perhaps the most widely observed Western saint to demonstrate divine powers of healing and regeneration. The first signs of his extraordinary qualities occurred unexpectedly on September 20, 1918. Then a 31-year-old Capuchin monk, Padre Pio was sitting alone in the monastery chapel, praying after mass. Outside, Padre Leone heard a scream within the chapel and ran in to find Padre Pio lying unconscious on the floor, bleeding profusely from the five wounds of the stigmata.

 Several monks carried him to his room, where he begged them to keep his condition a secret. But word spread. The Church quickly put a ban of silence on Padre Pio, concerned that this untested monk might be manifesting symptoms of hysteria. He was forbidden to write or speak in public--'yet over the next five decades, Padre Pio would prove to be one of the most remarkable Western saints in history.'

 Like Saint Therese Neumann, Padre Pio bore for his entire life wounds of the stigmata that never healed. And thousands of individuals - from ordinary Italian peasants and fellow clerics to high public officials and pilgrims from around the world - witnessed and testified to his powers of telepathy, prophecy, bilocation, levitation {Like Theresa de Avila and John of the Cross}, and healing.

 Although Padre Pio never left the city of San Giovanni Rotondo, Italy, in his last 50 years, he often appeared to those in need far from his physical body--to teach, admonish, comfort, and heal. Numerous testimonies, by telegram, letter, telephone transcript, and personal declaration, document Padre Pio's long-distance appearances in places he never visited--throughout Italy, Austria, Uruguay, and even in Milwaukee, where Padre Pio admitted appearing on June 25, 1950, to attend the death of a fellow monk's father. When asked about his ability to appear in two places, Padre Pio replied, 'If Christ multiplied the loaves and fishes, why cannot he multiply me?'

 And the fragrance of violets that often emanated from him also often manifested to those who prayed to him and was noticed by witnesses in those places where he had miraculously appeared. {Isis meditators also are able to smell the flowers she loved. The spiritual world can affect sensitive people in all sensory areas, to be sure.}

 His miraculous healing powers were demonstrated beyond any doubt - he cured many illnesses deemed incurable and, on more than one occasion, restored sight to the blind. His most well-documented, and astonishing, case of healing involved a little blind girl named Gemma Di Giorgi, from Ribera, Sicily, born with no pupils in her eyes." (1)

 Psychosomatic desires beyond the conscious intent of the person will explain many stigmata events in the eyes of scientists. Even as they explain it away in that fashion they are offering up other questions about how the mind works. These questions are left unanswered to my knowledge. It could be agreed the mind directs an ulcerous condition through the direction and intent of the subconscious. This is a way of treating most of the stigmata as hysterics. While it behooves us to agree in most cases, Padre Pio's case exhibits many more things and makes one pause before sweeping it into the looney bin of hysteria or psychosomatic illness. There is debate over the number of nails used to crucify Jesus and whether it is four or five has some import to other considerations as well as the case in question. If it could be shown there were only four then Padre Pio is adopting five on faith and dogma alone.

 It is possible he was a part of an ascended master chain of being which Jesus belongs to. It is possible that he was in some manner a re-incarnation of Jesus. Would it be good to know what biophysicists and other science thought if they evaluated him? There was a man who dematerialized in the early 20th century before all the skeptics of his day. He did it 29 times and told Dr. R.M. Bucke (who writes about it in his book Cosmic Consciousness. or shortly thereafter) a noted psychiatrist and a friend of Walt Whitman, that eventually he wouldn't return.

 Where does energy go, and do you really believe in a soul? The matter of faith and belief is near to abhorrent to science and I share that outlook. However, I detest even more the turning away from facts, just because we don't know all about everything we'd like to!

 Denial of actual events seems to be very much a part of many investigations of the paranormal. There is nothing supernatural but there are supranatural events


 And about Robert Baird the author of this article, who is quite open minded and shows that there is a history to this technique that proceeds it first being discovered in 1983 which a few others claim.

 Activist for ecumenicism with an esoteric insight and experience of a unique nature. Author of a history that fits the facts for over ten thousand years. All sciences come to bear in my work but all the facts are not known despite what some people want to believe.

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 A wonderful point Robert Baird makes is about realizing the larger reality we live in and that there is much to discovering it with exploration. He makes the point of endeavoring to come from a Wholeness perspective instead of from a bit or piece of it thinking the bit or piece is the whole of it. 

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 on: Yesterday at 09:51:31 
Started by Robert Baird - Last post by Robert Baird
Beyond the Dragon Project proof of energy varying and dovetailing with astronomical or astrological events and megaliths being part of a computer type of information matrix - we now have Gaia Theory developed by James Lovelock and Lynn Margulis and others including Hawkins who work on Crop Circles I have covered - here. It is more than just some Green initiative and Bucky Fuller saw how consciousness in even the marble under a sculptors tools can be worked with.

 "The Gaia Hypothesis finds its roots in longstanding insights regarding a living planet. For example, Scofield in Scientists Debate Gaia explores over two dozen expressions of the concept of a living Earth in Western natural philosophy, including animism, hylozism, psyche, pneuma, pantheism, sympatheia, anima mundi, and world soul (Scientists Debate Gaia, 2004, p. 157 - See inset). Many affirm that indigenous and traditional cultures feature intact connections and patterns with a living earth focusing on wisdom and intuition (Golley, p. 35; Scofeld, 2004, p. 157) at a nexus point of knowledge, practice, and belief (Berkes, p. 163). These insights, scientific and cultural, parallel and harmonize with more ancient indigenous and earth-based insight regarding the living nature of the planet. See also Ecospirituality and Ecophilosophy forms of Gaian Methods for further exploration of these concepts.

 The Gaia Hypothesis is a collaborative brainchild of chemist James Lovelock and microbiologist Lynn Margulis and depicts the Earth system as a living, self-regulating, meta-organism continuing optimal life conditions through complex planetary controls. A novel-to-me point of the Gaia Hypothesis is that if a scientist were to imagine what conditions on the Earth would be expected simply due to its planetary size, composition, and distance from the Sun (etc.), the scientist would expect to find a dead, lifeless planet without the temperature, moisture, and other conditions (including those optimum for complex life) found on Gaia Earth.

 Lovelock's Gaia: The Practical Science of Planetary Medicine (2000) offers fabulous visual examples and visualizations for the "geophysiology" that Lovelock explores as part of the fleshing out of the Gaia Hypothesis. His extended metaphor for the Earth as having a physiology includes later chapters on "The People Plague," fever as a metaphor for global warming, and exfoliation as a metaphor for deforestation. Lynn Margulis's radical visionary insight of symbiosis as the central gyre for evolution has, over the past twenty years, brought endosymbiosis and symbiogenesis from an unaccepted fringe theory to evolutionary doctrine. For Margulis, symbiogenesis (not mutation) is the source of innovation in evolutionary change (2006). She has uncovered how mitochondria and chloroplasts demonstrate that collaboration rather than (neo-Darwinian) competition drive evolution. Her early work on eukaryotic evolution demonstrating global regulatory mechanisms was pivotal in the Gaia Hypothesis (2002). Margulis advocates for collaborations with biology, chemistry and other fields in order to pursue the truth about the complex self-regulatory emergent property of the planet as alive (2006).Therefore Gaia Hypothesis research methods are at their heart inter- and transdisciplinary."

http://www.earthregenerative.org/gai...ypothesis.html

 The following quote comes from Stealthskater and links in his material which I have posted here. Any thing I gave him or he took from my work and added to, always makes me proud. He did great research. The caduceus may be older than Egypt and along with the Ankh (see Pavlita Generators) may have allowed many ancient secret technologies including VRIL connections to Pentagon Dodecahedron Earth Energy which is mirrored outside our atmosphere.

 What about the chakras or vortices of energy (or "wheels of lights") that are described in New Age literature as well as (supposedly?) ancient VEDIC_ARYAN literature of the Far East? I have read in one book about the soul being described as a TUBE that runs along the axis of the spine and has certain areas or NODES of ACTIVITY where these spinning wheels of energy are located. SUPPOSEDLY when all of these wheels are spinning in the right directions and at the correct rate of rotation,, there is an ENERGY SPIRAL or FLOW that is achieved that can bring about or is pure consciousness. Is there a correct spin ratio between chakras that would allow full consciousness to be achieved? How would an ordinary human go about attaining these correct spin ratios? Would all of these spinning vortices need to be aligned and spinning at the same speed?

 I wonder if these concepts are also related to the idea of the spinal cord as a caduceus coil? A caduceus coil is an electromagnetic coil that has electricity flowing in both directions. It is symbolized by 2 serpents winding around a tube (i.e., the AMA symbol). Could the spinal cord have some intrinsic relationship to the soul and the functioning of consciousness? If we look at the word "spinal", we can break off the "al" a the end and get the word SPIN. The word "spinal" is very close to the word SPIRAL. Maybe we could think of the BRAIN and SOUL as a computer system. A parallel "processing" computer. The brain could be the computer that the soul runs on or maybe we could call the soul/consciousness a CADUCEUS COMPUTER (just an idea).

 I have also heard quite a bit about counter-rotating energy fields that possess a CERTAIN GEOMETRIC SHAPE (TETRAHEDRON). Supposedly these counter-rotating energy fields possess some kind of mathematical relationship between their individual rates of rotation. Also one field is usually (in the literature) said to be electric in nature and rotating to the right. The other is magnetic and rotating to the left. What would this correct rate or spin ratio between these 2 energy fields be? Could it have something to do with the PI ratio? Maybe the PHI ratio or the GOLDEN MEAN? If there was a 2:3 or 3:2 ratio, then that would be very close to the GOLDEN MEAN SPIRAL. Maybe something else?

 Tetrahedronal energy fields. Resonant Rotating Field. Pentagonal energy fields.

 Now maybe there is more than one kind of soul or consciousness. And not all humans are really the same "UNDERNEATH". Maybe some have different spiritual physics based on different patterns of energy, and the human body is merely a "suit" that is worn by different types of spiritual entities. The human BODY as a SUIT? Something worth thinking about.

 SOME SPIRITUAL ENTITIES COULD POSSESS A TETRAHEDRONAL-BASED PHYSICS WHILE OTHERS COULD BASED ON THE DODECAHEDRON-PENTAGONAL based PHYSICS. Also, different types of spiritual entities could have souls based on different wavelengths of energy. Also, different biological types of humans or human looking beings may exist in our Universe or even within our own population on Earth. These different species may have different types or ALIEN souls. (There are two perfect tetrahedral in the Great Pyramid according to Bucky Fuller.)

 If we do possess a spiritual consciousness, why do we seem to have such "limited access" to it? Why don't any of us normal or average humans have access to our soul? How would one go about acquiring full access to this device? Are there certain wavelengths of brain activity or "window frequencies" that could facilitate such a task? Or is there something in the way from our environment? Perhaps all of the electromagnetic pollution in the 60-Hertz frequency range.

 Einstein was ridiculed for proposing negative gravity and schools certainly weren't talking about it (or any real science to speak of) when my nephews were in school. Bucky and Gödel both worked with him at Princeton.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/03/us...e-gravity.html

 34 
 on: Yesterday at 08:49:07 
Started by Cool101 - Last post by Kzaal
I've though a lot about destiny, and I concluded that it was non-existant in a single life.
I think the only destiny possible is the sum of all your reincarnation in order to become a spiritual being of light.
I think it's the only goal that god would really wish for and would hope so strongly, that you could not escape it.
The reason behind this is... We all know that God give you free will and that he could not force you to do something.
However, this would not affect your free will. A wish does not imply that you are forced to do so.
If it's god's wish to make us spiritual beings of light eventually we're all gonna end up there on our own free will...
(by giving us obstacles and making us understand the things he wants us to understand.)

So, basically you're free to do whatever you want, no destiny.
And this goes for all your lives. You could have billions of reincarnations because you end up doing bad things every time. But eventually you're gonna switch side.
However...
I also think that if you do something bad, like really bad and purposely... You know it deep inside. And I think there's a link somewhere between you, your spirit, and God.
And that every time you push your reincarnation cycles further (more reincarnations) God feels sad about it somehow and transmit you his feeling. So you too feel like you've done something wrong and that it's not good for your reincarnation cycle (subconsciously).
Not only that... After a while when you get so many reincarnation, the more you do bad stuff the longer it takes between reincarnations.
Some kind of purgatory (a standby mode for your spirit) in order to think about all what you did, until you finished looking at it, then you go back to your next body until you can remove all these bad habits and everything.
Your spirit knows it deep inside, but in single life?
No, I think anyone can achieve anything (realistic) as long as he works for it. Destiny has no effect on short term(individual lives).
Note here I said realistic because... let's face it, depending on your life situation and everything... You can't always win the lotto or be a billionaire unless you work hard for it. And if you somehow have disabilities or anything, it can affect what you will be capable of.
But that's another subject, reincarnation and long term karma which can take long to change.

I was also thinking that if god was there in the beginning and decided to split his/her/it's body into different part in order to form us... Maybe it split so many times that in the end there was nothing left. Except that instead of being just in one place he would be everywhere... Inside of us... So we'd get only fragments of what was the initial idea of why it split up, but that we still feel it when we are not on the right track? It might not even be close to that, and maybe he's just waiting up there for our final reincarnation... I have no idea...
Just one many theories...

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 on: Yesterday at 03:59:07 
Started by thedigi321 - Last post by Szaxx
I want to make changes on a high level, i admit, that's why i'm into mathematics. I discovered a pattern that may be of major importance, due to kundalini. But the main superpower here is astral projection. Why not use it for scientific purposes? Most people starting out with this matter, feel the need to explore. But what does one accomplish with exploration an sich? In my opinion, astral projection should be used to change the world at large. A big experience goes with a big change, and this change does not necessarily have to be in consciousness alone. I mean, being able to project at will is a serious matter, and serious things will follow; not for the faint-hearted. As for me, i can't do it at will yet, in full spectrum, and i doubt i will accomplish projection at will during this lifetime, that is, continuous consciousness. But i do find myself in a continuous deep trance, where i can project myself in "matter", at will, but the experiences are more of a photographic nature, except at night.

And true, people learn from their failures, that is, if one learns in a way that's from the particular to the general, but if one learns the other way around, then failure does not exist.

Failure is not an option, that's wedged in my mindset every time I'm in the NP.
As far as projecting at will goes, you only need to be capable of totally removing any physical world connection then concentrating on anything you percieve that's not physical.
Being a little tired helps as you can use the bodies automatic sleep inducing function to your advantage.
Go with the flow on the destination, its faster. Not limiting yourself to a particular location opens more doors to success, a wild card of sorts.
This is repeatable at almost any time of day and takes a few mins once relaxed to be in the NP.
Disconnect from the physical and use whatever energy you feel you possess in the perceived environment. Obviously for good purposes.

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 on: Yesterday at 02:53:48 
Started by WendyLoL - Last post by Xanth
Oh.. GOD .. this forum is sooo broken. I CANT POST WITHOUT 99% OF THE TIMES.. JUST GETTING SERVER ERROR...
Unfortunately, I don't think there isn't much that can be done... I think the problem is on your end. 

What you need to do is learn to trace your route... then talk to your ISP.  Somewhere along that route you're getting blocked.

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 on: Yesterday at 02:25:24 
Started by WendyLoL - Last post by WendyLoL
Oh.. GOD .. this forum is sooo broken. I CANT POST WITHOUT 99% OF THE TIMES.. JUST GETTING SERVER ERROR...

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 on: Yesterday at 02:20:03 
Started by WendyLoL - Last post by WendyLoL
I created the app at night after watching the video, and surprisingly, I had an OBE the next morning using the app, AND the morning after that!

I believe that it can be a really good tool to help in astral projection, but you need to find your own alarm pattern, sound and volume, and it's possible with the app. I plan to add more features if I get good feedback.

 39 
 on: Yesterday at 01:54:43 
Started by Cool101 - Last post by IsayWhaat
This question is a paradox.

(Roughly speaking) In order to avoid destiny, first you need to know what it is. Only then you can actually "dodge" the destiny. Let's say somehow, you learn what your destiny is. You decide to change it, but what if your destiny was to learn about your destiny and then dodge it? It goes in circle. Or what if your destiny is to have more destinies? Like, the fact we cannot predict what our destinies are, we are living them, because every choice you do will lead you to your, already said, destiny.

Every single time you have a choice it might feel like we have free will and freedom to do as we want, but we do not (as we will end up doing what destiny predicts).

Now, I personally don't believe in destinies (which is ironical, I know), but I also don't believe in accidents. Even if we can't see it, when talking about such things, coincidence does not exist. It doesn't mean everything happens for a reason or is meant to be, it just means that coincidence as such doesn't exist. However, this is solely my personal opinion and by no means I can give proof for given explanation. The only proof I have is in my head, because everytime I talk about it, I keep imagining mathematical numbers all around us. Literally everything that is around us (and what is not) can be put in mathematical equations that could seem random, but never are. That one blurry, bluish perspective keeps popping in my head from time to time. 

Coincidence could be related to destiny or not, either way, the question you asked screams paradox, well for me at least.

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 on: July 01, 2015, 23:12:27 
Started by Tongo - Last post by Xanth
Xanth I can see someone that has a low stress job just standing around all day or working on a machine. But as a Occupational Therapist I can interact with clients, meaning be social, and get creative on what the client needs. So IMO there is a big difference between a low stress job where you are standing around all day pulling levelers or whatever versus a low stress job where your helping people get better, being social, and coming up with creative ideas to help your clients.
One can "be social" in just about any job.  Remember, your job is simply what you do to earn money so you can survive.  I've always said my life begins at 5pm.  Smiley

I know a few nurses, dated one at one point.  Nasty stories.  LOL
In Toronto, most hospitals are understaffed. 

If you don't mind me asking Xanth what kind of job/career did you decide to take up that you didn't like?
I went to school originally for Programming, mostly because at the time I ENJOYED it.
However, after I went through a few years of it... school utterly destroyed my love of programming.  I used to make applications and games for my own enjoyment.  It took me a good 6 - 8 years after college in order to get back into the paces of even wanting to consider to enjoy programming again.  LoL
From time to time I dabble in it again.

I accidentally fell into the field of office administration... and I've been doing that ever since. 
I've worked in the car wash industry, interior design industry, and now I'm working in the film industry.
My current job is probably more stressful than the other industries I've worked in, but as I said, the people here make it all worthwhile.  Smiley

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