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 on: Yesterday at 20:28:59 
Started by Who Am I - Last post by soarin12
Thanks. I asked my guides for help, but nothing happened. I ask a lot, but it rarely works. I think they want me to master this on my own instead of them pulling me out of my body like before. Otherwise, I'll always depend on them doing all the work.

True, you don't want to depend on them doing all the work.  The kind of help I get from them is very subtle.  So subtle, I don't even know most times if it's them or my own intent.

I've never been pulled out before, but one thing that I notice they will do is, when they want to teach me a new technique they will make it very clear and easy to understand.  Then after that initial 'free' one, I need to work  hard to make it a permanent part of my repertoire.  That's how I learned to visualize.  One 'freebie' and then I had to work at it.  Now visualization is what I use most.

Sometimes their help will come during the day in the form of a thought or inspiration I never had before.  Then I bring that thought with me into my next AP session and I get results.  So subtle!  But thought is really everything in AP.  Sometimes we get to thinking about the process very mechanically and forget (or don't understand) that it is all about thought.   ...Just one of those epiphanies I had a while ago.  Good luck!  Smiley

 32 
 on: Yesterday at 20:17:56 
Started by fromromania - Last post by Szaxx
Yes, the desire only needs to be imprinted into your subconcious.

 33 
 on: Yesterday at 18:52:58 
Started by TheWolfofDreams - Last post by Szaxx
The more progress you make the harder they are to discern let alone actually do.
Post your experiences, they'll be interesting to diagnose lol.

 34 
 on: Yesterday at 17:20:32 
Started by Who Am I - Last post by Szaxx
Good thinking. They are called guides as that's what they do. Anything more they'd be called personal instructors.
You do the learning for yourself and get guided if its required.
The help is subtle most times.
Keep going and never doubt yourself, things take time.
The best things come to those that wait.

 35 
 on: Yesterday at 16:33:54 
Started by fromromania - Last post by fromromania
I've layed down in bed with the intetion to astral project, but I was way too tired and I fell asleep. Had a long, nice dream but at one point it turned into a nightmare, being chased by something, and 3 seconds after they began to chase me I just stopped and said 2 or 3 times: "It's just a dream, It's just a dream, It's just a dream", and then the scenery changed and everything began to turn white as I was waking up. It's weird, because I didn't know it was a dream untill the nightmare began, and when I said "It's just a dream" it felt like I knew I was dreaming from the beggining. And when I woke up my eyes were shut and my body was all numb.

Is it possible to just say "I'm dreaming" inside your dreams, but don't actually realize it? Because for me it definetly felt like that.

 36 
 on: Yesterday at 15:42:57 
Started by newhere - Last post by Bluefirephoenix
Don't get too worked up at this point your a ways off from being able to transition. Focus on going deeper and things will eventually happen. Transitioning is a highly individual thing but once the body is not trying to distract you during your sessions, progress tends to go a little quicker. Be patient and persistent at this point.

 37 
 on: Yesterday at 15:25:04 
Started by darksidessj25 - Last post by Kzaal
Xanth is right on that,
The way I see things is that there's the astral realm and how we categorize higher planes as a step above shouldn't be like that.
Higher plan just means you have a better understanding of your surroundings.
They say that the highest plane is to be one with the universe, well it is true.
You see, and feel, everything around you.
Lower planes you feel different emotions.
They are like plateaus but awareness/emotional/celestial plateaus...
The higher you go the more bliss you will feel and... it's incredible simply...
Then you come back and you feel like helping everyone for no other reason than for them to feel that same bliss eventually...
The only way to go to higher planes is to accept all the love they're ready to give you. All the emotions.
I think you were pretty high up there cause you mentioned that you felt right at home which is the case.

 38 
 on: Yesterday at 15:01:18 
Started by TheWolfofDreams - Last post by TheWolfofDreams
Oh I'm well aware of the things you can hear and see. I've had experience with this state before, about two years ago, I didn't understand at the time, but it left me unphased after the incident. I simply faced what was happening and basically stood up to it, in a sense. "I'm not afraid, I don't care." and I haven't had a problem with that sense. However, it's not often I find myself very conscious in this state.

I'm very strong minded and willed actually. And thanks, I can't stress enough that any heads up is worth a heads up.
And.. isn't everything a test? Smiley

Peace and Love!

 39 
 on: Yesterday at 14:53:55 
Started by Sour - Last post by Who Am I
everybody is different. experiment and find what works for you. your body is unique and functions in a unique way, is what I learned anyway.

what I do is... go to sleep an hour after coming from work. so many around 6:30 or 7pm. wake up automatically 3 hours later. stay away 2-4 hours. go back to sleep. almost a guaranteed to AP. or some days I'd wake up on the weekend, and fall back asleep to nap a few hours later I would OBE. it rarely works if I just go back to sleep after waking or even 10-30 mins later like some suggest.

 40 
 on: Yesterday at 14:49:20 
Started by Who Am I - Last post by Who Am I
When I first started projecting (and had a bad fear problem) I learned to use a slight loss of consciousness to get myself out without fear. When SP would set in, I'd be fully conscious, and knowing soon there would be loud noises and unpleasant sensations, I'd begin to let sleepiness set in.  This comforted me, took the fear away, and I didn't experience any unpleasantness. At the end of the process when I lost all sensation of my physical body, I'd either roll out or do nothing and just find myself in a new reality.  My consciousness was low -as you said- but as soon as I saw my new surroundings an excitement would hit me and I'd instantly jump to full lucidity. 

You can program your subconscious to do it this way if you have the intent beforehand.  Just imagine the excitement of your new reality and tell yourself that you will have instant full lucidity once you cross over.  It works if you believe it will.  You'll need to experiment with just how much consciousness you can lose.  Lose too much and you fall asleep for good, as I'm sure you know.  I was able to get sleepy and actually fall asleep for a few seconds right before, and as I was crossing over.  My subconscious programming would still work and instantly bring me to full lucidity once I was in my new reality.

Note - what I call subconscious programming could also be help from a guide.  When ever I run into a bump in the road with AP I always ask for help and have never failed to get it -one way or the other.

Thanks. I asked my guides for help, but nothing happened. I ask a lot, but it rarely works. I think they want me to master this on my own instead of them pulling me out of my body like before. Otherwise, I'll always depend on them doing all the work.

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