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 31 
 on: August 28, 2015, 04:51:26 
Started by Trepkos - Last post by Kzaal
Temperature is fundamentally energy, (No I dont mean to sound clever grin) energy goes up and goes down, expands-contracts, goes right then left, it doesnt eternally stays up, and it doesnt eternally stays down. Should have a mid point for things to happen.

People would think I'm creizy  tongue
They have that: "most people who read the bible or dreams to much end up nuts" in their heads. lol
Not their fault.

I don't want to bad-influence or something, but Vodka always gave me a good time around people I wasn't interested in talking to.
Now I need not one or the other.
But just in case, never failed me. lol

Exactly LOL

 32 
 on: August 28, 2015, 04:16:10 
Started by Venus_Goddess_of_Love - Last post by IsayWhaat
I wanted to meet my spirit guide(s) but was unable so far. I'm really happy that someone else succeded!  grin


 33 
 on: August 28, 2015, 04:04:01 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by Kzaal
If the schitzophrenia is under good control, the medications can be tapered but it cannot yet be cured. The treatment your describing is not very effective in a practical setting. The patient has to have the hallucinations under control before he or she can process information well enough to do therapy. Antipsychotics are used for that. They work initially but decrease in effectivness as the condition deteriorates. Schitzophrenia appears to be degenerative. It's not as fast as Alzhiemers or something like that but it does eventually not respond well to medication and the ability to participate in therapy diminishes.



I guess I was lucky and took at the right moment when my psychiatrist told me I wouldn't need any medication anymore as long as I keep my mind under control then. Cause I was diagnosed with schizophrenia back when I used to do drugs a lot, with psychoses and bipolar occurrences. Something I never actually told on these forums and never really wanted to talk about but this just proves my point that you can actually control yourself if you have a good psychiatrist and good moral values teachings. (not only that but also reality checks) As far as Hallucinations, the same could be told about anyone here hearing things and what not. (You guys could all be schizophrenic since we're dealing with "Unproven" and Religious/spiritual matter) Anything can be considered an hallucination in the eyes of a psychiatrist who isn't aware of Astral Projection, and the teacher of the psychiatrist omitting parts about hallucinations that they can be triggered with astral projection. It's all about who's doing the diagnostics and the teaching he had received, also the background of the patient which in every case is different and important to notice.
Diagnose like these are all about brain control, someone intelligent who understand how his brain function, how he can control his thoughts and with some good support can get out of schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is also known to have different degrees of affliction. And diagnostics are sometimes not the right one because it's hard for psychiatrist to determine if the symptoms are real or if they aren't from something else like bipolarity or psychoses. Schizophrenia can contain all 3 and this is why there's no treatment so to say because they don't know exactly what is the original cause.
You can be still be Schizophrenic and only have hearing hallucinations. Or you can be Schizophrenic yet be considered treated because you have no symptoms at all, they just don't know if there could be another reoccurrence that's why they don't medically consider it curable.
I'm not talking about stories I heard on the internet here, I'm talking about personal experience that happened to me, diagnose of schizophrenia with psychoses and bipolar disorders that have been treated very well and my psychiatrist removing meds because he told me it wasn't required anymore. (And when I left his desk he shook my hand and told me he was not even scared that it would ever happen to me again). Documents with the diagnose signed as treated. This psychiatrist is also very well known for treating patients just like me and for being one of the best in my region.

It's just misinformation. People saying things that catch your hear once in a while. Most of the time, schizophrenics and bi-polars had a rough childhood also rough social experience, or had usage of drugs and psychiadelics like I did, amphetamines and everything can really change someone. And it's not because you can hear your own thoughts or once in a while think you heard something but that you didn't that you're necessarily one. Or that you won't be able to change your mind. You are the only one in control of your brain and body and this is what experienced psychiatrists which I have huge respect for are attempting to teach to their patients. Some end up doing completely crazy things like killing people, but believe me, they lost control, sometime for a long long period of time their thoughts are clouded, some are manipulated and others are completely addicted to a drug or on complete psychoses. Childhood memories of being beaten, or being extremely bullied at school for unknown reasons.

What if I asked you if you ever thought I was Schizophrenic in the past. What would you have said.
You wouldn't have believed me. Because I don't have the train of thoughts a schizophrenic person would have, or no symptoms from what you've heard people say can be noted. Because I've learned to control my mind. I've learned moral values and understood that I had to be honest.

Schizophrenia is a very general term to diagnose patients who lost control and had problems regaining their train of thoughts. People do drugs, they end up so smashed that they black out and don't know what happened because they were so angry that they didn't want to hear anything and end up doing bad things. They say it's a psychoses but they'll also diagnose Schizophrenia with it because it's also one of the symptoms and they're not sure which one is the right one (also black-outs is common in both cases). They do advanced psychiatrist tests until they have the background information of the person. And only then if the person is cooperative they can have a deeper discussion with their patient about their past in order to find the original source of what really went wrong in his/her life.

Unless the person is almost completely brain dead and only move to go to the toilet or eat/drink or sleep and/or is completely silent which in those rare case are most of the time so ashamed of what they've done, or they simply refuse to face the consequences or the just don't understand what they have done. In those extremely rare case the person is kept in the asylum for a very long period of time until they take back contact or stay there because they're no longer autonomous and refuse to talk to anybody.

People don't know. They just hear things coming from one way or another, even someone who sometimes start day dreaming about things while working can be considered one. I know this because a woman's husband which my mother works with was diagnosed with it because sometimes he couldn't focus on his work and sometimes stopped working to start day-dreaming about things he'd like to do later in his life or hobbies he would like to try out.

There's misconception about what truly is schizophrenia everywhere. It's degenerative only if you can't make the person take consciousness of their mind and that their in control of their situation. With Anxiety, stress and everything that can make you go back to space out and forget about your daily live, believe me is one of the major factor why they can't treat everyone. They are fragile emotionally, because they didn't learn that they have to ignore bad people and bullying etc...

You learn a lot of things in 3 years of psychiatric treatments about your own disorder. They tell you all the symptoms, all the signs that you must watch out for, every single one of em and how to identify them in case an episode would resurface just to be cautious.

Hope that explain things a little. I don't want to go in details because it would take me literally hours to write everything down from the top of my head. But don't be so quick to judge.

 34 
 on: August 28, 2015, 02:50:51 
Started by Trepkos - Last post by Rakkso
I just asked one of the spirits why i have to shut up and they showed me a thermometer. What's the significance? Temperature? Energy?

Temperature is fundamentally energy, (No I dont mean to sound clever grin) energy goes up and goes down, expands-contracts, goes right then left, it doesnt eternally stays up, and it doesnt eternally stays down. Should have a mid point for things to happen.


It's normal, not many people like to talk about their spiritual experience in real life either.
Why do you think this is?
People would think I'm creizy  tongue
They have that: "most people who read the bible or dreams to much end up nuts" in their heads. lol
Not their fault.

I don't want to bad-influence or something, but Vodka always gave me a good time around people I wasn't interested in talking to.
Now I need not one or the other.
But just in case, never failed me. lol

 35 
 on: August 28, 2015, 02:36:04 
Started by Rakkso - Last post by Rakkso
@Xanth

Thanksss!! this really cheers people up, I'll be making some lemonaade soon, or just the most out of anything I get in life  wink

Also, If I go into the astral and start helping people, doing retrievals or i have this recurrent dreams were I help the same old lady again and again, is that weird? I mean in doing good deeds you get good coming to you... those deesds that will randomly come back at you in a good way improves or upgrades or just betters itself in invisible quantities or whatsoever?? I woulnt be sure about this things, but i just think 1 plus 1 equals in the astral is two ones in the same instead of two. lol this may not make sense

@Kzaal

Well, well, yours seriously was very fun post, very entertaining to read, I got lost as I was half asleep at first glimpses  grin I appreciate it, and the time. You nailed it blindfolded. Thank you very much.

I know how helping people on the right side and leaving the sick without doing nothing is just not ethically or morally right.
I mean, if you are good, really good, you always try to do the good out of mostly anything, be balanced, help any one who comes to you, etc.
So, I see how Karma can give you of This and then of That, at first it might be good on the outside, but some people at first could have hidden intentions negative to you, as I've seen it many times. And Then, someone who comes after and wears not his best clothes or is just humble gives you just a Good advice in a dark context or while you are having a bad day, and only later you make the most out of it.

Do you think that we should be more carefull with the people we let come to us trying to do us good without any reason? or just let them help us without asking and then whatever happens let the other side of Karma do its thang..

I think we can also try to get to know those who want to help us right away, and maybe, through intervining and speech, change Their perspective on Us, like helping them become better friends. Or would that just be very manipulating comming from me?? xD lol

You need the bad to learn to be good, and the good to learn to be bad even if its not your nature, but only when you really have to. So I see how nature goes. lol

 36 
 on: August 28, 2015, 01:34:37 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by Bluefirephoenix
If the schitzophrenia is under good control, the medications can be tapered but it cannot yet be cured. The treatment your describing is not very effective in a practical setting. The patient has to have the hallucinations under control before he or she can process information well enough to do therapy. Antipsychotics are used for that. They work initially but decrease in effectivness as the condition deteriorates. Schitzophrenia appears to be degenerative. It's not as fast as Alzhiemers or something like that but it does eventually not respond well to medication and the ability to participate in therapy diminishes.


 37 
 on: August 28, 2015, 01:33:55 
Started by DrkLrd - Last post by astralm
Is there a reason why you feel it is better to have your lamp off during your attempts?  I never use a completely dark room.  Not that I am afraid of the dark, just that I am a fan of seeing, also the more you distance yourself from what your body associates as normal sleep conditions the better.  This is why many suggest a chair or a couch instead of your bed.  Along these lines I think a room lightly lit will help "you" differentiate between sleep time and consciousness work time.

There have been many authors who theorize some of the negative aspects of a spontaneous obe are due to the fact they tend to happen when people are in their beds at night in a dark room.  In an obe state, especially when one is not familiar with it, things such as shadows or just the normal unknown that darkness brings can easily be turned into monsters or the like.

Just an observation on what Xanth said.  When dealing with this level of work fear takes on a new meaning.  Much more subtle fears can manifest.  In life we can, and usually do, ignore small fears or bury them.  This does not work here.  So if darkness even gives you that slightly unsettled feeling, in normal life if someone asked if we were afraid of the dark we would say no.  I mean it is not like we can't handle the dark or have a panic attack or anything.  However in this world of work, yeah that is a fear that should be addressed.  Be prepared to face fears you honestly never knew you had.  They are there and they will come up, for everyone.  Nobody gets bonus points for not having or accepting their fears, it is kind of a main point, if not the main point, to all this.

EDIT:  Last little thought.  Also I think we need to get rid of the view fears are an on/off thing.  Either you have one or you don't.  I think a much more accurate model is that they are a moving scale always changing.  For instance I said earlier I am not afraid of the dark.  That is true and also not true.  Generally I am not afraid of the dark, however some days something may happen, maybe I watch a horror thriller or read a dark book that gets to me a little bit.  That night I might have a little fear of the dark pop up.  Point is you don't either have a fear or you don't.  It is very much based on your state in that moment.

 38 
 on: August 28, 2015, 01:24:24 
Started by Venus_Goddess_of_Love - Last post by Rakkso
We're very good at hiding them lol.

Terribly good at it  tongue

 39 
 on: August 28, 2015, 00:37:05 
Started by Trepkos - Last post by Kzaal
You are welcome.

 40 
 on: August 28, 2015, 00:35:28 
Started by Trepkos - Last post by Kzaal
Why do you think this is?

Because most people think they're cray cray.
lol.

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