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 on: August 28, 2016, 04:57:47 
Started by blidge - Last post by no_leaf_clover
What i want to know is what words do you use to make things happen? I know the more experienced travelers will say just do it but there are many goals i want to achieve while in the astral. Things i do require great effort and don't always work, such as flying as i can only ever get about 6 feet off the ground even though i tell myself that there is no gravity.

Your imagination is your only limitation. Most of the tools I use in lucid dreams aren't words but actual objects, like something like a jet pack I use to fly. Of course these are all just "tricks" to make our subconscious create what we want it to, but they can work beautifully.

I love the discussion topic.

 on: August 28, 2016, 04:06:54 
Started by vegaone - Last post by Astralsuzy
Force it, you have nothing to loose.   If it works it works, if it does not work, it does not work.   You are not aping so take a risk and see what happens.    When I force it I get out of my body.   

 on: August 28, 2016, 01:10:12 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by luffy28
@Luffy that is what you are looking to do, or the what.  I meant more what are you looking to get out of the experiences, or the why.  Both are important but the why is overlooked much more frequently.  What we do is not as important as why we do it.

This can be personal and by no means needs to be shared here.  But tackling your personal why or intent will be a huge step regardless of what technique you decide, and might help point you to which technique.

Can you explain more how my interests can lead to the type of technique I should do?


 on: August 28, 2016, 00:24:34 
Started by vegaone - Last post by vegaone

I can get to the vibration stage quite easily but on trying to leave my physical body I find I am still too attached to it, stuck to it. If I really force it I get to the stage where you can hear the buzzing noise but I refrain from continuing so as to not risk it as the amount of strain on my physical body at that point is relatively extreme. Any advice welcome.


 on: August 27, 2016, 18:38:33 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by Szaxx
The group in question was disbanded so most likely a fractal from the genuine. These are what many should be aware of and this one in particular used the left hand path as a motto to expand its members.
Bad dealings way outside of the gnostic environment in general.
Let's face it, rituals are a part of life in many sects and creeds and have been since the dawn of time without the unsavoury aspects witnessed.

 on: August 27, 2016, 18:24:38 
Started by blidge - Last post by blidge
What she said.  Smiley

Words are just symbols. 

What if, to you, "banana split sundae!" meant "see now!"... see? 
It's not WHAT you say, it's not even HOW you say it... it's the INTENT. 
The INTENT provides the non-physical OOMPH behind... it IS the action.

yes words are just symbols i could think if this came to mind at the time that i don't need any words or i could just use whatever came to mind, just so that the intent was my direction. A little complicated but essentially i understand and agree. Its the intent but for me on this occasion the words helped or rather seemed to have more power.

Ill think with strong intent instead of verbalizing, but the conscious physical laws i.e. gravity, verbal communication, the senses even though never applies in this realm seems an effort to overcome completely. I guess that ill just get to the point when my mere thought of what i want to achieve i.e. flying at will and anything else will happen.
Clarification I don't use words at all. Communication in astral doesn't use words. It's a translation by the conscious mind to interpret the psychic input.

Just clarifying I don't use words in astral much, even avoid them on a superficial level.

You get into communication deeply you'll see what I mean. It's easier to see than to explain.
i guess i may be able to just think with intent and it'll just happen, but in time.

 on: August 27, 2016, 17:47:57 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by RobertForsythe
It is still practiced today unfortunately for those who enter without prior knowledge. Young girls below consensual age are 'interfered' with on an altar which is part of the ritualistic goings on. This I have had some 'connection' with and done the right hand thing. Those taking part were assisted to a term of enlightenment in the form of a sabbatical at her majesty's pleasure.
Totally disgusted with the disregard shown by the members of the cult, action had to be taken. The young girl is free of them as a result and is living her life free from the infection they imposed.
It's not a nice thing to endure especially if you fail exams as a result. You mess up your life and no cult is worth that whatever false promises are indoctrinated before the initiation.

I think maybe you have this group confused with some other cult, Szaxx.

Here is a list of some of his other books;

It doesn't look like my cup of tea but it sure isn't into altars and Satanic stuff. They use the pentagram but it is NEVER inverted. There is a lot of attention on their exalted Master, which is a concern.

 on: August 27, 2016, 13:53:29 
Started by Nameless - Last post by Phildan1
Actually i am just interested where do people like Lionheart and bedekin and others went ? like not my business but they posted some interesting stuff

Lionheart as Lumaza is still here but seems like he is busy.

 on: August 27, 2016, 13:50:20 
Started by Nameless - Last post by Positive3
Actually i am just interested where do people like Lionheart and bedekin and others went ? like not my business but they posted some interesting stuff

 on: August 27, 2016, 13:20:14 
Started by Nameless - Last post by astralm
Very well written post

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