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 41 
 on: Yesterday at 10:33:23 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by EscapeVelocity
Well, the synchronicity is that earlier this year, I attended the Gateway Program at the Monroe Institute, had an absolutely great time and made several new friends. I shared a copy of my Fieldtrip experience with one of them and she wrote me a few weeks later about it. She had just read a book by Tom Kenyon which was a series of channeled communications called The Arcturian Anthology. The Arcturians are apparently an alien race from another dimension and star system, some of whom are dedicated to protecting Earth and its current evolution. It is a 180 page book, with intros by the authors and channeled interviews by several of the Arcturians. The intros are quite good, with information and insight regarding our cosmic genetic heritage (many of us apparently have alien genetic/spiritual heritage), but some of the interviews bog down into repetitive, generalistic kinds of intergalactic bromides...and maybe that's my human heritage simply wanting to hear something more...(lightning, please don't strike me!)

Now let me just say that I am by nature half accepting and half skeptic... and ONLY through personal experience have I come to believe and understand the fact of OBEs, then ghosts, then UFOs. And I fully admit that my understanding on any of these subjects is provisional and incomplete.

'Channeled communications': the concept of it, I can accept...but the quality of much of what is available has left me somewhat resistant and skeptical. Honestly, I haven't explored much of it because what I have encountered has left me doubtful and a bit uneasy. And yet, (this just occurs to me) when a disembodied voice pops into my head, like in my Fieldtrip or Talking To The Hand experiences, it is kind of hard to ignore, lol. (So who is going to believe me?!)

So my new friend from TMI writes me and says 'Hey, I just read your Fieldtrip experience and then this book by Tom Kenyon. Here is a quote that struck me.' (I am expanding the quote as I find some new relevance both before and after what she shared)

"Your universe is filled with alien intelligences, some of which resemble humans. But many of them do not and it would stretch your imagination to conceive some of these in your mind, as they are so alien, meaning strange to look at. But my suggestion to you is not to judge an alien by the way he or she looks.

You have to go beneath the surface to find the character, the quality of the individual, and the cultural values of his/her civilization, even though it may be very different from yours.

Since we are on the topic of visual impressions, let me say a bit about how Arcturians generally appear. We are quite human-like in our features. We have two eyes, a nose, a mouth, two ears, two arms with hands, opposing thumbs, and two legs, like you. But our heads tend to be rather squarish-looking, and in certain energy states our faces resemble horses.

Indeed, our appearance will shift according to the energetic state of an individual Arcturian and the energetic state of the one perceiving the Arcturian. It is a mix. Since we exist in a fifth-dimensional reality, or higher, and your brain patterning is of a third dimensional reality most humans will heavily filter their sight of us through their expectations. This is true of most encounters between higher dimensional beings and those of a lower level."

In momentary conclusion, I have to say that this quote offers at least a few insights into our discussion. The synchronicity of my friend sharing it with me is just one more confirmation of a sort.


 42 
 on: Yesterday at 09:56:02 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by LightBeam
I don't know if I should be concerned about this experience, as it's never happened before. I woke up in the middle of the night but still half asleep. So, this was not in the NP. My thought was "OMG, I forgot to take out a pillow for my guest. They will have no pillow to sleep on. So, I got up in panic, I opened my closet, took out another pillow, put it on the bed and I moved from the middle of my queen sized bed to the right side, so I can make space for my "guest" and I put a pillow on that side. In the morning, I woke up, opened my eyes and remembered what I did during the night. I thought that was experience in the NP, but when I turned to the left, I saw the pillow there. I freaked out a little because I have never done anything like this before in the physical. What's happening with my brain.  But I really thought that someone was visiting me. I don't know who that person was, there was no image, just a knowing that someone was there and needed a space and a pillow on the other side of the bed. 

 43 
 on: Yesterday at 09:37:36 
Started by Nameless - Last post by LightBeam
The point of all this is to say that our guides, our angels, our support team are not only with us during meditation, AP, OOBE and Phasing. They can and are often with us in very physical ways they just aren't 3D.

Oh, absolutely. They can perceive us and provide assistance when needed, but we cant perceive them while fully focused in the physical. When I was 16, I wanted to ride my dad's motorcycle. It was a small caliber one, but at that time I had only been on a bicycle. I hadn't even gotten my drivers license yet. I had no reflexes to drive a motor vehicle. I thought it was easy and he actually let me ride it. So, I remember after one minute I froze, I forgot which handle was gas and which was breaks. So, I kept increasing the speed but I wanted to stop because I was approaching the side wall of the neighbor's house. I completely froze as I was going to hit the wall head on full speed without a helmet or any protective gear. Just a few inches before the wall all of a sudden the bike made a turn. My hands turned the bike to the left. It was not me though that turned the bike. At that time my whole body was paralyzed. I couldn't even feel my hands turning the front, I just observed the bike making the turn before impact. So, that was someone else that helped at that time. My dad said that he was watching me in terror approaching the wall. He never let me ride the motorcycle again LOL.

 44 
 on: Yesterday at 06:42:44 
Started by catsquotl - Last post by Xanth
Hey everyone,

After almost 10 years of live, 2 more children (already had 4 back in the day) and the boring grind of day to day 3 d existence I'm up for another round of extra-physical exploration..

With Love
Eelco
Holy hell... with that many children, how do you find time to project?!  LOL  Smiley
In any case, welcome back!!!

 45 
 on: Yesterday at 05:20:42 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by Nameless
There's a lot here EscapeVelocity. Thank you so much for adding on to your previous post.

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And Kurt has some superb insights into this, one of which is the idea that we are concurrently activating and exploring the next higher level of consciousness, while still consolidating certain experiences within the lower bodies. Working backwards as we move forward, as it were. This explains for me, and may for some others, why we have a clearly Astral event one day and then a RTZ event a week later; or a series of formless Mental level experiences followed by a Lucid Dream. The experiences are not confined to a specific order; we necessarily jump around from one to another.
This does make sense and personally I feel better knowing I'm not alone in seeming to evolve so well then finding myself back at ground zero (so to speak).

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Nameless, the fact that we both were 'presented' with similar aliens, then other times visited alien human-types and were allowed to observe their culture...it's just too coincidental not to be significant. Maybe the curriculum is that commonplace, maybe there is more to it considering the resonances you and I share. There is possibly more to these aliens that I will share presently, something a new friend shared with me recently. I've run out of time for now but will return.
I'm honestly on pins and needles waiting. Maybe it's just me (don't know) but I feel we are close to something here. Recently I was informed I would be taking on or developing a new talent or hobby. I'm not sure if that is in reference to the cards I recently picked up or something else or maybe both. I just feel something coming together. I wrote about the cards in my journal so as not to off-track this discussion.

 46 
 on: Yesterday at 05:06:48 
Started by Nameless - Last post by Nameless
As this is my Everything Journal I'm going to put some recent stuff here I think some might find interesting. I notice we rarely talk about our daily physical lives in relation to the non-physical. I think that is a mistake if we want to obtain a fuller more clear picture of what all this just might mean.

A couple or so weeks ago I did something I really did not intend to do. Someone left a deck of playing cards on the buffet where they sat for weeks. I noticed them but thought nothing of them. Plume is the tarot card reading guru far as I am concerned. Anyway I walked by and felt a very clear nudge to pick up the cards. No, not interested. Then again another day, same thing. So I picked them up and took them to my room. As I held them I was impressed with the number 3, so I shuffled and drew three off the top.

I knew the cards were significant but other than a very vague idea I didn't know what they might mean. Again I was impressed with the word - learn. Well, okay. So I took a pen and wrote my ideas on a few cards starting with each of the 4 suits and later went online and looked up the basic definitions of playing cards as generally understood. These are not tarot cards but they'll do. My vague ideas were generally spot on, I was surprised by that having never studied cards before beyond regular card games. At this point I went ahead and wrote a short descriptive meaning on each card in the deck. In the end I used the Jokers as a simple YES and NO. I originally intended discarding those.

Next day I did some tentative readings for a couple of people, letting them shuffle the cards and just play them for awhile. I asked my "np support team" why cards. And they responded because that would work for me and make it easier for them to 'talk' to me.

Later that night I was discussing all this with my son and after he drew several cards and sat there holding them he handed them back. I unconsciously shuffled the cards and suddenly felt and urge to again draw 3. I did - They were the exact same as the three I drew the previous morning.

The point of all this is to say that our guides, our angels, our support team are not only with us during meditation, AP, OOBE and Phasing. They can and are often with us in very physical ways they just aren't 3D.

I know some of you will likely feel the need to remind me I need to be careful who I put my trust in. I thank you for those thoughts. Rest assured, I am always protected.

PS - Even though this is my journal feel free to talk, ask questions or converse in any way you feel. I truly enjoy all of your input. This journal isn't just my record, it's a HUGE Question mark.

Hugs to you all and hope your giving season is as remarkable as you.

 47 
 on: Yesterday at 03:19:36 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by EscapeVelocity
Nameless, you raise some interesting points which we have touched on in other discussions. Lumaza, you are definitely right about some of these experiences requiring time to 'simmer and stew'...I call it 'percolating' and sometimes other, outside information needs to be gathered and this often occurs in interestingly synchronous ways, as I will presently describe. This will likely take more than one post and will necessarily spill over into another thread as it promotes discussions of other topics.

First, I want to re-cover some ground and backfill  some areas in my original experience-

In 2011, when this experience occurred, it was around 2-3am and I was deeply asleep. I must have gained some degree of higher awareness as I shifted out of one dream and found myself in the 3D Void. I was barely aware though, maybe a 2 or 3 on the lucidity scale. The experience played out and I came fully awake with the knowledge that a fairly significant experience must have taken place, but my memory was already very foggy. I made it a point to write down a brief paragraph outlining the major points of what I did remember and then slid back off into sleep. In the morning, I looked at my notes and really could not recall much in the way of details. It was 2 and a half years later that while reviewing my OBE notes, I came upon that paragraph and decided to lay down and see if some quiet reflection would bring anything forward. What occurred stunned me! It didn't take five minutes of relaxation and it was as if a computer keystroke simply opened a compressed zip file- torrents of information and detail came flooding into my mind. It took about ten minutes for the 'download' to complete and I actually had the ability to shut it off a few times, then to re-start the flow. I had to shut it off the first time because the information was overloading me; the second time I shut it off in complete disbelief that this could really be happening. And there was a different quality to these memories somehow; during this time, I could stop and start and even re-wind the memory in a way even better than a video disc. Now the whole experience was crystal clear in my mind but the nature of this memory process was and still is mind-altering for me.

Another aspect of this experience which I neglected to mention and didn't necessarily understand the significance of at the time was that in the Void and throughout the alien planet adventure, I don't remember having a Physical body or even a RTZ or Astral/Mental form. I felt like I was simply a 'point of consciousness'. I never noticed hands or legs or feet and typical PR movements didn't even occur to me. When I was placed outside the town, I was about 150-200 yards out, the people were far away and yet, when I was suggested to focus in on them, it was like I had 'zoom vision' and could see them up close. Again no physical sensation of any kind of movement.

Upon reflection, I realize that I was overwhelmed with data while in the guy's head; I felt caught in a whirlpool or vortex and was spinning out of control and had to be pulled out. Maybe I was in danger of losing the integrity of my own identity/consciousness. The next thing I knew, I was floating in space above his planet, maybe 5000 miles out, with a spectacular view. I looked around at the distant star systems and wondered which way was home, then focused in on one cluster that 'felt' right but was lightyears away and started moving towards it. Then I received a friendly 'boost' from the rear and sped off until my awareness faded and I awoke.
                                                      ______________________________

My personal metaphysical library is over a hundred books and my collection of OBE-specific books is just shy of a hundred. I remain open to many forms of interpretation and whatever ideas I have today, I will gladly replace tomorrow when new theory or evidence presents itself in a convincing fashion. As an explorer/experiencer, I have no choice but to point out that there are distinctions and patterns within these experiences. It is not simply random experience. There appears to be order, organization and some degree of hierarchy, teaching even...and I will venture this: maybe even some form of curriculum.

Of all the books I have related to any of this, only a few speak to these experiences either in reference or directly; none of the most popular and common OBE books get anywhere near the specifics of these types of experiences, much less explain them or give them context (one exception being Monroe who had the experiences but could provide little other than his individual interpretation, which was understandable given his situation). The books of reference are some of the Theosophical works that relate to the development of the various energy bodies-Etheric, Astral, Mental, Causal, etcetera and the related planes and phenomena. It was all very dry reading for me thirty years ago and held little to no meaning for my experiences at the time; but now, I am beginning to see some evidence of what they were talking about. Markedly better, is the more contemporary work which draws from these earlier ideas, and those are the books by Kurt Leland.

Scattered throughout Kurt's Astral Projection Log (on his website) and in the books Otherwhere and Multidimensional Human, Kurt makes specific reference to encounters such as mine and Nameless'. He points out that these are specific examples of our education and progression-for example- Our earliest testing begins in the Etheric/RTZ with learning mobility, navigation, awareness control, vision, basic understanding of Intent, etc. As the Etheric body develops, more of our awareness moves into the Astral and a whole new set of tests begin- Fear and Sex, focus and distraction, more navigation, noticing form and function of the various Dream Zones and testing areas, and more Intent... Once the baser instincts are brought under control, we move our consciousness into the Mental body and the testing becomes more complex and nuanced; our thinking is more clear because the pollution of emotions is left somewhat behind; maybe this is where Retrieval work begins? The progression continues as our consciousness learns to operate in the higher energy bodies, the next being the Causal, then the Buddhic and so on. And actually, the book I have on the Causal is quite limited in description so I'm kind of waiting and hoping Kurt will eventually produce something on that. Sadly, I'm not aware of any other reliable material on the subject.

And Kurt has some superb insights into this, one of which is the idea that we are concurrently activating and exploring the next higher level of consciousness, while still consolidating certain experiences within the lower bodies. Working backwards as we move forward, as it were. This explains for me, and may for some others, why we have a clearly Astral event one day and then a RTZ event a week later; or a series of formless Mental level experiences followed by a Lucid Dream. The experiences are not confined to a specific order; we necessarily jump around from one to another.

According to Leland, the experience of being placed within another person's head is a Mental/Causal level event and often starts with an alien. Why, I don't know. Eventually, he had the experience of being placed within a great human composer's head to understand the process of creating a great symphony. Maybe that was specifically for Leland as he is a big Classical music buff. This also led to a Retrieval where he needed to understand the world-view of a deceased person caught in a loop, so by then he was comfortable going into someone's head without risking losing the integrity of his own identity.

Nameless, the fact that we both were 'presented' with similar aliens, then other times visited alien human-types and were allowed to observe their culture...it's just too coincidental not to be significant. Maybe the curriculum is that commonplace, maybe there is more to it considering the resonances you and I share. There is possibly more to these aliens that I will share presently, something a new friend shared with me recently. I've run out of time for now but will return.
                                          


 48 
 on: Yesterday at 03:08:31 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by Windwalker.
When i first started projecting i found simply reading about aping before sleep seemed to assist greatly. Good luck!

 49 
 on: December 08, 2018, 21:38:00 
Started by catsquotl - Last post by Nameless
Well hello, wasn't here when you first made this thread. Welcome back. Outer life does take over but eventually we get back to Inner living. Cheers!!

 50 
 on: December 08, 2018, 14:09:30 
Started by catsquotl - Last post by catsquotl
Hey everyone,

After almost 10 years of live, 2 more children (already had 4 back in the day) and the boring grind of day to day 3 d existence I'm up for another round of extra-physical exploration..

With Love
Eelco

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