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 41 
 on: June 14, 2018, 11:29:22 
Started by YellowOx83 - Last post by Xanth
Welcome aboard, I look forward to reading your posts.  Smiley

 42 
 on: June 14, 2018, 09:49:49 
Started by YellowOx83 - Last post by LightBeam
Hi and welcome to the forum! I have heard many great things about acupuncture, however, I have needle phobia. Tell me more about acupressure. Is it as effective? Also, what herbs are most popular for general health maintenance.

 43 
 on: June 14, 2018, 08:31:32 
Started by YellowOx83 - Last post by YellowOx83
Since my big thing is Oriental Medicine and Acupuncture, I want to start this thread and open myself up to answer any questions about traditional chinese medicine you may have. They can be philosophical, scientific, or even practical (although fyi, I'm not a physician). I look forward to hearing from you all.

 44 
 on: June 14, 2018, 08:29:17 
Started by YellowOx83 - Last post by YellowOx83
Edit: This is a repost, because I posted this in the wrong section earlier, which I apologize for.

I want to find a way to introduce Traditional Chinese Medicine into the mainstream American home. I don't expect that it will ever replace conventional medicine (nor do I think it necessarily should), but I want it to be used either as a first, natural option for several aliments that are typically treated with higher-risk conventional medicine. For example, getting acupuncture to treat depression before considering using zoloft or another anti-depression medications that have many side-effects.

What are the problems that are preventing chinese medicine from becoming mainstream? What are some solutions we can take as a community of holistic healers and advocates to improve the situation?

-YOx

 45 
 on: June 14, 2018, 08:14:00 
Started by YellowOx83 - Last post by YellowOx83
Hello friends,

I am a professional personal trainer and amateur historian of philosophy, religion, and science. Recently, I have developed an interest in traditional Chinese medicine, as well as the ancient Greek thoughts on medicine. I'm hoping to share my findings and learn more about your own experiences and thoughts in what I really believe is an underused system of healing.

Thanks,

-YOx

 46 
 on: June 12, 2018, 12:49:11 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by EscapeVelocity
Okay, so while I was forming a response, and thoroughly screwing up my quotes, LightBeam chimed in and I missed it.

Thank you LB! I won't even try to break it into quotes because I agree with your whole post! Very insightful!

Bodily functions, daily themes...yes they all enter into the stuff of our dreams. For me, it seems like everything backs up and builds for awhile and then is unleashed like a small tidal wave...fun and exciting but I am left feeling like a huge wave has crashed me onto the beach in a slightly bruising way, lol.

Who's in charge? I agree and well said.

Doors = probabilities and choices. Yes, great metaphors...they are "known unknowns"...

There is a lot to unpack in your post but I find the idea of observing that raw energy of our emotions within the subconscious context, those rare moments of watching "it" create at that level...that is such a cool and personal moment...words quickly fail wink

Thank you

 47 
 on: June 12, 2018, 12:30:51 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by EscapeVelocity
First response - Uhm, wow! I have always wondered why it is that bathrooms in the Otherwhere are always so dang nasty. It's like the overseers really hate our physical body needs interruptions.

Now that you mention it, I can't remember a clean bathroom/toilet in the NP/Otherwhere, lol. It's like some subtle back-handed insult against our forced human-ness...

Kurt Leland describes a small city with an iridescent stream flowing through it, one in which he can comfortably sink into and allow "the flow" to take him where it will...I get to stand in a gutter with liquid human refuse flowing over my feet in order to get the same realization...what's up with that?!!  Maybe, just maybe he did modify his experiences to be more readable, lol.

Same with the sex response. It's like they enjoy testing the fact that we are spirit-inhabiting human animals that are so easily prone to the sexual response; a great awareness test, but also instant entertainment when we continually fail...

[quoteAs if there is any part of me creating this then I am so far removed from that part and that part is so far removed from me we don't know each other so we are strangers and that makes 'them' them and 'me' me and not us. As for what I do think, I think there is a lot we don't know and we can't assume that 'they' do however much they are in advance of us.]

My thinking, as well... wink

The "Clue" simulation may not be any more than an awareness-building exercise, the clues or puzzle pieces may not lead anywhere. Then again might be a perfect form that can evolve and build upon itself into something that actually does have a useful solution to some issue such as an eventual Retrieval or something else.

Excellent thoughts! Thank you Nameless!


 48 
 on: June 12, 2018, 12:12:13 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by LightBeam
Lots of clues indeed, EV, but can we put together the entire puzzle? My dreams are also bizarre most of the time and sometimes I am able to read the message behind the messy scenarios. Sometimes I just ignore them if they are too messed up, so I don't scare myself and out of fear start creating unintentionally unfortunate events. So, lately I have been going more with the flow, releasing the urge for control and sort of given the green light to my higher self to teach me whatever I need and if there are challenges I will face them and do my best to get the messages behind the lessons. No one wants to suffer, but if necessary for the greater good, then so be it. All I am focused to is to understand everyone and everything that happens and not judge even in the slightest but to understand what lesson someone is learning by experiencing what they are experiencing. I like to observe people and their lives and make sense of the big WHY. That's why I try to look at my life through a third party [perspective and analyze it that way, so my ego doesn't interpret things the wrong way because of my own emotions and beliefs. At the end of the day, go with your instincts.

But I will say it again, all my APs are perfectly in order, no scary things or anything that doesn't make sense, very enjoyable. Only dreams get bizarre. I almost wish we didn't dream LOL, just APd. I hope when we shed our physical bodies, we never have to experience something like dreams. Perhaps awareness is essential for orderly experiences, otherwise what we call subconscious is only in control and it creates rather symbolic temporary images that we perceive. Many times I can relate these to my daily life. For example, I went to the hair salon the other day, I was afraid the stylist will cut my hair too short. She didn't but I had that thought. So at night, I was dreaming that my hair was short like a boy cut and I panicked. Many times, when I cut sugar for a while, my body start craving sweets, so frequently I would dream that I am at events where they serve sweets. When my bladder is full, frequently I will start dreaming that I am looking for a bathroom. So, dreams are highly connected to our daily life, and our thoughts constantly create at every minute. But because our thoughts, emotions and beliefs are so many and so scattered, when we get to observe that area of raw energy that our thoughts constantly create from, we can actually see what we are creating, even just temporary. Interactions with other souls are also observed through the lenses of our subconscious during dreams. Now, when thoughts are persistent and beliefs are strong, that energy and forms, events we create become more charged and stay formed for a while, then they manifest into our reality as events.

Who is in charge? I think our true self is far more complicated than we realize. It may be composed of many aspects connected to other characters, lifetimes, parallel realities, the source of what we were crated, ets. But I know that the ultimate goal is leaning so whatever it takes gets arranged somehow to be experienced (I don't even want to pretend I know, no one knows, but that's ok. We are not supposed to know everything while in the game). 

The doors in your dreams I think represent probabilities and choices. If you enter one door, will lead you to certain experiences, may be farther from what you need to learn. If you open another, you may get closer to what you are looking for. I think through observing the options you have now in your life you can try to analyze what would happen if you open each one and eventually make the right decision, which one to open and which ones to lock and never enter.

To resist sexual temptation shows control. Not many people can do this. So, this is a good sign, you have control of what choices you want to make in life and that no temptations of any sort can distract you and make you open the wrong door. Good job!


 49 
 on: June 12, 2018, 10:59:11 
Started by superman - Last post by Nameless
baro-san I asked for a true dream from the Gates of Horn. I can't even begin to describe what I saw but now that I have I also know I have had others before without knowing. Phenomenal exp that is going to take a while to process.

 50 
 on: June 12, 2018, 10:49:00 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by Nameless
First response - Uhm, wow! I have always wondered why it is that bathrooms in the Otherwhere are always so dang nasty. It's like the overseers really hate our physical body needs interruptions.

Things have been a little dry for me as well. I know I am having some experiences every single night but for some reason I am just not able to retain them with only a few exceptions like last night. I haven't ever thought of this as a game of clue but that is a perfect example, your recent exp especially. Now that you've brought it up that is exactly the type thing I have experienced several times. Only the clues still are not making sense. Glad to have some validation here that they are clues (I thought of them as puzzle pieces but same thing).

As far as the sex that seems to be the only body function the others find entertaining, lol.

Quote
It felt like a physical hand gently, but firmly slapped me in the center of my back, no mistaking it. I was instantly reminded of the Carlos Castaneda stories of how his mentor Don Juan could "see" Carlos' energy "egg" body and know where the point of his attention was "fixed", and with a directed slap or push, could re-orient Carlos' point of attention and transfer his awareness into the NP. I don't know; all I can say is that this is what happened. I was back in the previous dream.
Now this startled me. Last night I went through kind of the same thing as you with the waking and returning (even the bathroom break - omg). For me though it was a very solid physical feeling. Someone touched my lip with their finger and I was instantly back in the NP. I was so startled I almost jumped right back out again. I won't go into the details of the exp itself as it is another clue that needs processing. I wonder if my exp had anything to do with Seth and the Gates of Horn. I'm gonna find that thread next and comment there about that.

All in all I think you did get a reminder and proof that we have so many possibilities out there. You've hit on some great points like how we can not ignore our physical bodies but we don't always need them to do what we need do. And you question who's in charge. So do I. I'm not sure I believe it's all just us creating it all. As if there is any part of me creating this then I am so far removed from that part and that part is so far removed from me we don't know each other so we are strangers and that makes 'them' them and 'me' me and not us. As for what I do think, I think there is a lot we don't know and we can't assume that 'they' do however much they are in advance of us.

You've given me for one a lot to think about. Hugs

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