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 on: October 29, 2014, 23:33:24 
Started by FireFly9 - Last post by EscapeVelocity
I have felt the same tension between those chakras; I think it is simply an indication that they are active and the source for powering up your projection, as opposed to many early projectors experiencing root/sacral excitation; so I think this is a good thing. More than that I don't know because, like you, when I've noticed it and tried to make use of it, I haven't been able to.

Maybe one of the others with more knowledge in this area can chime in and educate us both!

The 'pull' I was describing doesn't relate to the chakras, at least for me. This pull is more of an overall gravity kind of pull that occurs when a visualized scene has become so solid that it starts pulling me into the scene. I've gone too early and mentally stepped into the scene only to get bounced back. If I then wait half a minute longer for the scene to strengthen, I can usually pop right in.

 on: October 29, 2014, 23:17:13 
Started by FireFly9 - Last post by FireFly9
Thanks EV.  I appreciate the response, and I will do more of what you suggest to see if I can improve the hits.  When I went out through my feet last and sailed through the tunnel to what seemed like a railway station I forgot to mention that I did go about touching and feeling things to try to prolong the experience my bringing in my focus and attention better.  Next time I will engage the noticing as much as I can.  In this case I was already in the scene because I had reached the astral, but was doing that 'fish out of water' thing as Frank called it.

I really don't have much luck with the rundown process but focused attention IS a difficulty for me. Something I continue to work on. 

I have a question though about the 'pull'.  Often when I have been in my body numb state for a while and wavering on exiting, or sometimes even when I have been out and am attempting to get out again, I feel a strong pressure between the solar and heart chakras.  I have tried to utilize this pressure to get out but so far no luck.  Doesn't seem to matter if I just let it alone or if I try to exit there.  It does focus me back on the body, but it must be happening for some reason.  Any thoughts?

 on: October 29, 2014, 16:17:01 
Started by darksidessj25 - Last post by darksidessj25
Nice experience, you should know it's best to do as the locals do. The extra attention may be different from what you'd expect.
It's their world and it's best to fit in. The experience will last longer too.

That's true. I also had a very intense lucid dream last night as well. I was in a auditorium full of people and the guy was having a war against white people lol. He was on this huge stage giving a speech and I was in the back planning my escape when I pulled out a cell phone. The girl next to me was one of his followers and didn't call it out and just took my phone. Something came to the leaders attention and he brought his cousin to the stage and killed her for know reason. I got really upset and realized something, isn't right. This is wrong. After that I looked up at the light and wondered if this was a dream. I said light off. "aloud" then the light turned off! Then I got up and said Physics control enabled. Then I moved my hand and swung about 5 chairs against the wall and everyone looked at me like really did this guy just do this haha. After that I went to the stage and swung the leader accross the room. His followers pulled out their guns and I said invincibility enabled lol. So funny. Then I shot the bullets back at them like neo. After that I everone proceded outside and this girl was there. She said thank you. I then said it's okay, your all me. And I love you all. The swat team pulled up just like in inception. It was bonking bad ass. I think my mind might of freaked out cause I had a very high level of lucidity.

 on: October 29, 2014, 13:39:02 
Started by darksidessj25 - Last post by Szaxx
Nice experience, you should know it's best to do as the locals do. The extra attention may be different from what you'd expect.
It's their world and it's best to fit in. The experience will last longer too.

 on: October 29, 2014, 12:09:29 
Started by darksidessj25 - Last post by darksidessj25
Found my self in a place with 3 other people. 1 person seemed to have trust issues and the others I don't recall that much, I ran into several astral entities and didn't show a sign of fear. The spirits that where with me told me just to keep my cool and act normal. I saw a thing that made really load noises. It floated towards me and screamed. I could here it all around me in a 360 degree spectrum. Didn't frighten me because he didn't scream directly at me for that long. I just continued on. I tried to use OM but one of the spirits said not to do that cause they won't like it and it will draw attention and that isn't what you want here. They shown me quite a few things an old abandoned motor home that was full of cobwebs and this place that was like a big building.

It was white everywhere but not blinding white light. Just kinda dull to remind you that your dead. I told them I was out of body and what not but I don't remember there responses. I just can't believe I face all those entities like that. For some reason one of the persons I was hanging out with kept on reliving his death. For example he was holding a gun which seemed odd. I haquestioned it to in my head. This wouldn't do anything. So it might have blended into a dream from there on.

 on: October 29, 2014, 11:25:29 
Started by Sagar - Last post by Bluefirephoenix

 on: October 29, 2014, 11:24:07 
Started by Tongo - Last post by Bluefirephoenix
My guide is known historically and I had read much of the biography .Because of the diaries of his friend we have fairly detailed records of their lives. So I have asked quite a few questions about his past.   The stuff that was most interesting though is his descriptions of what life is like after you die. Because of the past records I can see some of the changes that have happened over 500 years. The thing is you don't stay the same you continue to grow and develop. What struck me though is that he said to me that the hardships he experienced while he was on earth now is just like a faded bad dream. He's so happy, he's with a loving God and with his friends. He continues to learn new things and continues to grow.

Now walking on this path. I'm learning to be a medium but I'm also learning about spirit about the true nature of God... not that the religious writings are wrong.. its just different meeting the being  who is written about. ( honestly it's impossible not to fall head over heels in love with him) but there's a lot that I don't know or understand and my teacher helps me with that as well as techniques for psychic development.  So I learned that much of what we consider to be heaven having peace, feeling loved is possible here.


 on: October 29, 2014, 10:59:59 
Started by Tongo - Last post by Tongo
for experienced projectors: when in the astral what sort of questions have you asked your spirit guides? perhaps ones about yourself or the world or people you know? and what sort of answers did you get?

 on: October 29, 2014, 09:35:25 
Started by Sagar - Last post by Raymond
Sagar, my answer to your questions are - Not yet Smiley

 on: October 29, 2014, 07:35:45 
Started by FateBender - Last post by FateBender
It is sort of true, lol...

I think the way it is couched is very strange though. If you watch the video closely, especially toward the end, the narrator is explaining how projections will make you this amazing person, and it will solve all of your problems for you, and you won't have to worry about anything ever again once you get there... and also, you will be a wizard of some kind.

Those things are generally more the result of serious meditative pursuit, and taking a piercing look at your own psychology- your basic physiological needs, the way you interact with others, your attitudes about yourself and the world... it is really hard to see projection only getting you all of those great rewards.

In short, I felt like the video was selling a person a false vision of projection's role in metaphysical pursuits- a notion that it is a shortcut to fulfillment of every kind. It takes away the responsibility and power for change from the individual, and puts it into this almost mythical object instead- I don't think that is healthy.

The imagery... could be real I guess, but the tempo was all off to me. It is almost always slower than that... exhilerating, but somehow in a relaxed way, at least for me.

Thats what I thought as well! When I see posts of people practicing AP they never talk or act like It's some kind of magic, but something many humans do naturally, and look at it like a lifestyle, like, for example, lifting weights.

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