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 41 
 on: December 12, 2017, 08:54:37 
Started by madmagus - Last post by Lumaza
Bummer about the Kasina, if you had the option to return the Laxman instead would you have still done away with the Kasina? I would love to try one before buying but its a pretty obscure technology in New Zealand, I don't think there is a place you can try them. I may have to take a leap of faith.
Yes. I preferred the Laxman. Better programs, better "goggles" and it had a "open eye option", even though I never used that way.

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What is the key to beating the hypnic jerk? My experience has always been that once the jerk occurs I am awake and back to the body. If I try to ignore and sink back in, sometimes I would have sequences of jerks and waking up rather than ever getting past it so to speak. The times that I have projected consciously there was no jerk at all, due to wake and back to bed priming possibly.
I very rarely get the Hypnic Jerk when in a Phase session and if I do, I basically ignore it and keep moving on.

 I don't get it at night while sleeping. When I get SP, it normally begins with the gentle Astral winds and a mild body pulse, until both become constant, then I'm out. I would surmise though that the Hypnic Jerk is what people experience while nodding off while driving. I have had it like that before. Thankfully the jerk occurred and made me realize what was happening.

 To beat it, you have to stay completely consciously aware. It only occurs when we are on the brink of losing our awareness. If you are attempting to Astral Travel, you can't lose that conscious awareness. Perhaps it works as a fail safe. It does while driving.

 42 
 on: December 12, 2017, 05:09:10 
Started by madmagus - Last post by ThaomasOfGrey
Bummer about the Kasina, if you had the option to return the Laxman instead would you have still done away with the Kasina? I would love to try one before buying but its a pretty obscure technology in New Zealand, I don't think there is a place you can try them. I may have to take a leap of faith.

What is the key to beating the hypnic jerk? My experience has always been that once the jerk occurs I am awake and back to the body. If I try to ignore and sink back in, sometimes I would have sequences of jerks and waking up rather than ever getting past it so to speak. The times that I have projected consciously there was no jerk at all, due to wake and back to bed priming possibly.

 43 
 on: December 12, 2017, 05:04:06 
Started by Lumaza - Last post by ThaomasOfGrey
Nice timeline, some useful tidbits in there I haven't seen before.

 44 
 on: December 12, 2017, 04:25:12 
Started by ThaomasOfGrey - Last post by ThaomasOfGrey
And many people are willing to kill and eat other people if they are hungry enough. If we applied similar logic to what it seems like you may be using here, the conclusion would be that farming humans for meat was also valid:

I see your point, maybe it is valid to farm humans, if it is valid to farm any conscious unit.

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Some humans will harvest meat in times of need
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Therefore, harvesting meat in all times is justified


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Some humans will eat other humans in times of need
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Therefore, eating other humans in all times is justified


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The difference is that the "push comes to shove" part is invoking an extreme. At the extremes, all sorts of things go that wouldn't normally fly. So unless you want to also argue for canibalism in parallel as a bi-product of the argument, we have to be talking about everyday life not in a situation of need... meaning, all things being equal, if you could eat anything, what things would it be best to eat, and why?

The every day need to eat is a different kind of extreme than needing to eat a human like in the movie Alive. My example was designed to say that maybe some people prefer not to personally kill an animal, but would be willing to do so to eat on a daily basis. That is different from someone that lives under some kind of delusion where they eat meat but would be unwilling to ever kill to survive.

At some point the ethical argument has to consider health and wellbeing of the individual doing the eating too. Suppose I have a pet dog, do I feed it a natural diet like meat, or do I feed it manufactured carbohydrate biscuits that have strong links to cancer? We don't judge animals for killing each other in the wild so even vegans feed their pets meat.

In a way we all have a pet human here in this body; if a hypothetical carnivore diet become endorsed as a cure-all for Western illnesses and athletic performance, we wouldn't continue to give ourselves the cancer biscuits surely?

I think the breakpoint to this logic is that the health of the being has to have more value than the cost of keeping it alive for it to be in the realm of an ethical choice.

My personal answer to "all things being equal, if you could eat anything, what things would it be best to eat, and why?" is that we should consider a meat based diet for two reasons. Despite conventional wisdom, meat based diets might be healthier than balanced or vegan diets. We have to kill a conscious being to eat, but we can live in synergy with animals like cows by treating them right and giving them the gift of not extinction. That might sound facetious, but the likes of Buffalo exist in Australia and have gone extinct in native areas because they were not preserved as a food source, or humans took up all of the land they need.

 45 
 on: December 12, 2017, 02:50:11 
Started by ThaomasOfGrey - Last post by baro-san
Has anybody watched "Planet Earth" (amazingly filmed !!!), or other documentaries about life of animals?

You can learn a lot of things from them, such as:

- all animals and plants exhibit intelligent behaviour well above what most of us would think possible
- even among the most peaceful animal categories there is continuous internal and external fight and aggressiveness; surely there are examples of magnificent cooperation too
- etc..

You can't not conclude that trying to force onto humans a utopian all-encompassing love of each other, and of all the cohabitant creatures of this Earth, is contrary to nature.

One of the things that distance humans from all the other creature is cruelty. Only humans can be so.

 46 
 on: December 11, 2017, 22:42:11 
Started by Lumaza - Last post by Lumaza
 I have been getting PMs and emails asking me what is the importance of visualization in Phasing. So, after contemplating that further myself in my own Phase/soak session, I want to go into it further.

 I have been a member here since 201i. I used the name "Lionheart" in the past. For all but one year since, I have actively been involved in my own non physical adventures and explorations. I had a hiatus for about a year due to a physical ailment I had, that made it next to impossible to continue. But I overcame that. I don't take any pills, no Percocet anymore for pain, I even stopped taking my Gabopentin for my Trigeminal Neuralgia. I came to the conclusion that if I could make myself sick, then I can also make myself better. That mindset became reality.

 When I first began this practice, I used Frank's noticing. I had already been through months of the "climbing out of the body" techniques and didn't find that that technique was for me. So, after reading Frank's excellent primer in full, I learned and studied what I could on Phasing.

 When I did a Phase session, I always logged my results afterwards. Many times I came across the same thing. I would begin with some of Robert Bruce's NEW, (New Energy Ways). I would then do a bit of progressive relaxation, then I was ready for whatever came next and would begin noticing in the darkness before my closed eyes. This is when I would begin seeing Hypnagogic imagery. At first , the images came as flashes and orbs. Then color and shape seemed to arise. Next fractals and patterns, many times basic Geometric shapes. By now, about 45 minutes has passed and after about another 15-30 minutes, I found myself deep in the 3D darkness. But because I was new, I had to experience all the "signposts and exit symptoms" that most new people do. That meant that staying in that noticing focus for a hour to an hour and 15 minutes was quite a challenge in itself. I had to jump many hurdles, like salivating/swallowing, eyes feeling like they are opening, deafening sounds, violent vibrations, etc. You name it, I experienced it, lol.

 I looked at my Journals and I could see the same "pattern" playing out almost every time. Now it was my goal to shorten the time it took to get into the zone. So, I began playing with "creative imagery", imagination. I started with "motion based" imagery, like shooting a basketball, rowing a boat, playing ping pong, etc. This seemed to work okay. I could get a brief image, but then it disappeared as quickly as it came. If I could locked onto it, it always became a "in my face" full blown scenario. But still, it took up to an hour to do. I kept experimenting though. I used the focus on a child's spinning to quite a bit too. It had color, motion and for some reason, it didn't take long before it did something unexpected.

 Then I bought a Light/Sound machine. The machine created colors in fractals. These images came through the use of color and blinking lights. The machine also had Binaural Beats and musical accompaniment. So a program like Earth, let's say, would have the singing of birds, sounds of the outdoors and even a monkey scream that catches you off guard. The colors would be mainly browns and greens. This entire program would be based on giving you the mental associations of being outdoors. It worked very good too. But then the 20 minute-30 minute program ended and just left you in the dark. The program did what it said, but after the program was finished you were still left with work to do. I tested it on others around me, Family and friends and they found the same as well. But I also noticed that the program had somehow changed the person listening to it. Afterwards they got up and felt like a million bucks. They felt relaxed, rested and they also told me that they felt "frozen" while using the machine. I had felt that often too.
 I then wrote my own program for my light/sound machine. This time, eliminating the sound, but just using white as my color and the frequency of the flashes. I created it to bring the "user" into Theta state as quick as I could. Most of that program stayed in the Delta and Theta wavelength, so it created a very deep meditative state.

 Those light/sound machines are tools. They can help you get to the proper mental frequency, but you still have to do the work, per se. I wanted to find a way to emulate the effect of a light/sound machine, without actually using one. So, I began doing deeper personal research with visualization and imagery.

 I found that I could speed up the Hypnagogic imagery process of flashing lights, by just trying to focus on a starry night sky. Colors were simple and I found that all colors have their own mental associations. The color red, could be an apple, orange, the sun or an orange, etc.. I then began working with basic geometric shapes. Now, I noticed that this constant brain entrainment was beginning to pay off. It was taking much less time than it did before to get into the 3D zone, where the real fun begins. I also noticed that while focusing on shapes, for some reason "doors" of all shapes and sizes would appear. This led me to creating the "Doorway thread".

 At first people may find or opine that this daily exercise is a waste of time. It depends, what do you want to achieve? Do you want to experience a thrill ride, do you want to learn to do some inner "soul searching"? Do you want to go there just to learn what there is to learn and see what there is to see? What's your own personal reason for learning to AP? To succeed with any goal in life there is always some kind of "sacrifice" or learning curve. I hear many today say they want to learn, but don't have the time to do daily practice. Thankfully Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Hendrix and many of the greats didn't think that way. Yes it takes time, which means commitment. What it all comes down to is how bad do you want it and what are you willing to do to achieve it?

 I don't force it. You can't force it or pressure yourself. That's counterproductive. You must learn what works for you. If you can't visualize, (every one can, it's just once again they try to immediately do it and force it), then try using a different sense. I find motion based visualizations to be great. Using simple directions up/down, left/right, forward and backwards also creates almost instant "mental associations". Many of those associations involve shape/form and even tactile etheric sensations. You can't force them though. You need to just create the simple focus on whatever direction you wish and "allow" whatever is going to happen to happen. You need to go into this as a "new exploration". You can't overthink it. Don't question what you are seeing or why. For now, just go experience it. There is plenty of time to question it later. Keep a log on your progress. You will start seeing patterns that help you further along down you pathway as well!  smiley
 
 I have successfully mentored many throughout the years, either on Forums, via email/PMs and live in person too. Many of them found what they were looking for and no longer need the assistance. Some found too much of what they thought they were looking for and aborted and few others couldn't make it past the "fear test", no matter how badly they told they wanted to.
 I tell them all the same thing. I will help you learn "get there", but once there, you are on your own. They do succeed because they do put the time and sacrifice into it. They go into it with he right mindset and because of that, they are rewarded for their efforts.
 Still once in a while today they will tell me how things are going in their practice and life in general. Many of them have changed in ways though. That happens when you choose to open "Pandora's Box".

 47 
 on: December 11, 2017, 22:03:58 
Started by Lumaza - Last post by superman
I wish we had a thank you or like button on this forum :p

 48 
 on: December 11, 2017, 21:58:06 
Started by superman - Last post by superman
I cannot say enough how Important it is to read Seth! It changed my life forever. Its like talking with an almost omnicient being... he says that he is still "growing" but from our human perspective he knows so much. It feels infinite. I feel so blessed to read him since my 17 year. His books and the texts of Buddha. You never go back... I think that my projections started the month I started reading Seth and those experiences were incredible.
Even if Seths may sound spiritual he is not... its so practical and scientific... he is very funny and wise. Its not like some serious guru... his teachings are so fun, yet so profound.
The core message is what all others try to "copy" lately in new age/spiritual community. The message is that YOU ARE RESPONSABLE FOR YOU AND YOUR OWN LIFE AND THAT YOU CREATE EVERY SECOND OF YOUR EXPERIENCE. That no outside energy affects you. Here or in another dimensions. You are never "victim" of others nor the outside: because everything in your experience is a feedback of your own energy.

 49 
 on: December 11, 2017, 20:01:45 
Started by VonGruen - Last post by Bloodshadow
this is a far out answer but maybe you are alien and purple is you original skin color and you became human long ago to blend in, and has forgotten your origin, you probably can turn your whole being into purple but you are just on your hands for the time being. i suggest researching government data bases or just search internet for purple aliens, maybe more than one type but its a start and you can go from there.

 50 
 on: December 11, 2017, 18:32:41 
Started by ThaomasOfGrey - Last post by Stillwater
And many people are willing to kill and eat other people if they are hungry enough. If we applied similar logic to what it seems like you may be using here, the conclusion would be that farming humans for meat was also valid:


Some humans will harvest meat in times of need
____________

Therefore, harvesting meat in all times is justified


------------------

Some humans will eat other humans in times of need
____________

Therefore, eating other humans in all times is justified


------------------

The difference is that the "push comes to shove" part is invoking an extreme. At the extremes, all sorts of things go that wouldn't normally fly. So unless you want to also argue for canibalism in parallel as a bi-product of the argument, we have to be talking about everyday life not in a situation of need... meaning, all things being equal, if you could eat anything, what things would it be best to eat, and why?

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