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 41 
 on: February 08, 2016, 00:14:42 
Started by lucid dream lover - Last post by theswearjar
My opinion is all relgions have become based to much on literal interpritations and blind faith, and not the intended meaning for which they were created. The teachings of all religious texts (the gita the tora and the old and new testamit) all taught the same exact thing just in different metaphors

The student through the fallowing of the do n donts of life and the mastery of right posture give man self control over the body at witch point he can withdraw the life energy of the body to the spine and brain , witch results in the shutting off of the five senses and disrupting thots that are a product of the senses. By being fully withdrawn and concentrated with one pointed concentration the student directs that concentration towards the only reflection of god in creation the aum vibration or holy ghost , when man identafies himself with the aum vibration and the perfect reflection of gods consciousness inherant in it, his sence of self expands from the limited human body conciousness to the universal christ  conciousness eventualy reaching the trancendant state of cosmic conciousness beyond all creation.

All relgions were never ment to teach people to fallow blindly,it was intended to give man the means by witch he can experience and know the source himself through effort instead of going to churchianity and listening to a man whos never met god tell you about god from what hes learned in a book .
So ya christianity teaches how to reach the astral states and beyond just like every other religion , but christians themselfs and all churchianity have misunderstood the knowledge and teachings and led man on a wild goosechase with no reasonable end which is why they waste there time worrying about demons and so on
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But ya thats just my opinion from my learning and experiences

And the third eye is the reflection of the medulla in the forhead  its the source of gods intuitional wisdom and the only pathway the sole can take to reach cosmic conciousness beyond creation  nothing to do with satan or demons thats just fear mongering

 42 
 on: February 07, 2016, 23:11:31 
Started by orenz9002 - Last post by Lumaza
Hello Lumaza!
I ve read the link you sent me but i still have some questions;
Muscles' paralysis is normal for AP?? this is a stage that most peaple stuck  and cant do AP?
And that  is to say that i have to let my self  free and my mind open to get out of my body?
And the spirits i see? They wont harm me?
Muscle paralysis is your brains way of keeping you safe while you sleep and Dream. Otherwise you would be flailing all over the place acting out the actions that you are experiencing in your Dreams.
 
 Most people get stuck at that stage because their fears take over and makes them lose the state that they are currently in.

 You can just passively observe it and see what happens or like many do here, passively observe it until you feel it's right to start attempting to exit your body. I never put any effort into climbing out of the body. I just observe what's happening and soon I find myself "out" and on some adventure. SP doesn't happen for me all the time though,  being aware of it that is. For me it's about 3 or 4 times a month now that I awaken in that state. I prefer a simple shift in consciousness from a totally awakened state. This is known as Phasing. More is said about that here:
 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/what_is_phasing_and_how_can_i_do_it-t17413.0.html

 No, the spirits won't harm you. Offer them a "peace treaty". A cookie usually does the job. You are finding yourself in a area where thought = action instantaneously. So, you must learn to "control" your those thoughts.

 I hope this all helps you. Fear is the first thing that "everyone" that APs has to learn to overcome. You overcome it from confronting it head on and understanding, the knowledge of why it's there.
 

 43 
 on: February 07, 2016, 17:17:11 
Started by orenz9002 - Last post by MaryBlue454
Hello Lumaza!
I ve read the link you sent me but i still have some questions;
Muscles' paralysis is normal for AP?? this is a stage that most peaple stuck  and cant do AP?
And that  is to say that i have to let my self  free and my mind open to get out of my body?
And the spirits i see? They wont harm me?

 44 
 on: February 07, 2016, 12:57:49 
Started by Enigmatik - Last post by Positive3
I don't really understand question so i don't know if my answer will be correct for this one

I like to speak with my self, to analyze where these beleifs thougts finding the first sparkle from where it all started and changing or removing this sparkle it's always easier to replace then destroy and replace with nothing but in this proccess u must be 100% honest to your self

i don't know if this answer helps u anyway but still : P

 45 
 on: February 07, 2016, 10:18:30 
Started by Enigmatik - Last post by Enigmatik
Many times on these forums I hear about how beliefs can hold you back from AP or anything in general.  My question to you is have you ever seriously and vigorously pinpointed these beliefs and made some change?  How did you do it?  And was there an effective outcome?  My experience was a fear inventory a long time ago.  I did it with a friend.  It was effective but I think that I want to take a more thorough inventory and see if I can evoke more change.  I would really like to hear about your experiences!  Thanks.

 46 
 on: February 07, 2016, 10:01:12 
Started by Xanth - Last post by Xanth
This topic has been moved to Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions!.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=46414.0

 47 
 on: February 07, 2016, 04:44:11 
Started by lucid dream lover - Last post by lucid dream lover
All you have to do is when they are out of body get close and say the words "i use my telepathy to wake my friend out of body know!" Also try to mean it.Intent is everything!:-)Also be gentle about it.Also if anyone is wondering were i got the "telepathy now!" part it was inspired from the book adventures beyond the body by william buhlman.

 48 
 on: February 07, 2016, 03:15:37 
Started by lucid dream lover - Last post by lucid dream lover
Hi and welcome lucid dream lover!
Thanks for the warm welcome! smiley

 49 
 on: February 07, 2016, 00:38:34 
Started by Aaron330 - Last post by Lumaza
Thanks for the info. It's really hard to break away from something that has been ingrained into your head your entire life. Especially when you've had supernatural experiences to what you think is backing your belief system up. The more I study the more I understand what you guys are talking about. The thing that I have a hard time with is the evil spirits. I've seen unexplainable things and most people deem them unreal. I guess it would make sense to only hear the Christian side to it since that has been my only influence. I'm slowly breaking out of the mind control manipulation of things. Smiley
The only way a person will ever change their mindset completely is when they experience it for themselves. Studying it can help you get other opinions, because the person that is writing is only showing you what "they" have perceived themselves to be true. Many times though they are just "rehashing" what someone else has said as well. Religion in general is well known for that.

 The same goes with Astral Projection. You can read, listen to videos, etc. all you want, but experiencing it for yourself will give you the "proof" and answers you are searching for.

 50 
 on: February 07, 2016, 00:11:16 
Started by Aaron330 - Last post by ZenJedi
Thanks for the info. It's really hard to break away from something that has been ingrained into your head your entire life. Especially when you've had supernatural experiences to what you think is backing your belief system up. The more I study the more I understand what you guys are talking about. The thing that I have a hard time with is the evil spirits. I've seen unexplainable things and most people deem them unreal. I guess it would make sense to only hear the Christian side to it since that has been my only influence. I'm slowly breaking out of the mind control manipulation of things. Smiley

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