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 41 
 on: November 30, 2016, 01:31:59 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by Bloodshadow
hmmm from my understanding you start on your back, then when the sensation that eggs you to switch positions you actually do it, and continue with your process? most expert projectors say to ignore the position change sensations, now i'm wondering if they were right. I mean tossing and turning is part of the process of sleep, getting into a comfortable positioning, then you start reaching these altered states of consciousness, and as long as you are aware you can even project from it awesome, I might actually start doing this and see how it works out.

 42 
 on: November 30, 2016, 00:45:43 
Started by rainbowcity - Last post by Lumaza
An interesting concept, it actually has occurred on a global level at the turn of the century. The random number generators used in a long term scientific study of which I can't recall at this time synchronised way outside of anything on record after the 9,11 incident. This project also noted similar effects where the populations thoughts were of a singular nature.
It has been done on a grand scale of synchronicity by many people thinking of a single desire to give peace to the world.
It is real and the percentage of those in the experiment wasn't that high.
I'll try to recall the long term experiment and post it here.
Gregg Braden often speaks of this in his videos and seminars. It is part of the "Global Coherence Initiative".
 https://www.heartmath.org/gci/
 Further research has been done using Monks and Jewish Rabbis that have created recordable "physical change" by conscious will.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLf6uvEjFxM
 Check out his website. He has some fascinating research there. He is very passionate about this topic in general.
 http://www.greggbraden.com/

 Edit: I had to change that link for the Global Coherence Initiative. I also had that name wrong too. It wasn't the Global Heart Initiative. It was the Global "Coherence" Initiative.

 43 
 on: November 29, 2016, 20:52:45 
Started by rainbowcity - Last post by Szaxx
An interesting concept, it actually has occurred on a global level at the turn of the century. The random number generators used in a long term scientific study of which I can't recall at this time synchronised way outside of anything on record after the 9,11 incident. This project also noted similar effects where the populations thoughts were of a singular nature.
It has been done on a grand scale of synchronicity by many people thinking of a single desire to give peace to the world.
It is real and the percentage of those in the experiment wasn't that high.
I'll try to recall the long term experiment and post it here.

 44 
 on: November 29, 2016, 09:17:46 
Started by rainbowcity - Last post by fcojosedea
So there is a simple way to understand it.

The observation effect happens only in the micro, the question would be, can this microscopic event affect in a macroscopic way?
An example on how would that be is imagine a big lake completely peaceful. If you throw a very small rock (a microscopic event) it will cause ripples in the whole lake disturbing it. So a microscopic event can affect the macroscopic landscape.

The problem is that the quantum field is not a peaceful lake, it is more like the sea with waves and storms in places.
If you throw a stone there, you wouls see the effects but they are invisible a little after thet, because there is so mucha happening anyway, something else won't do much.
This is usually called decoherence, what you are causing is brushed away by the environment.

Can we make coherence? Yes, in a very specific environment with advanced apparatus, not our minds.

Can we do it with our minds? Scientifically, there is no proof of that, but it isn't forbidden either. So the "enlightened" masters, masters of the mind can help controling that complicated machinery to prove or disprove it. This needs to be researched...


 45 
 on: November 29, 2016, 03:47:31 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by Nameless
Hi Francisco, welcome. I will be looking forward to reading your posts.

 46 
 on: November 29, 2016, 03:20:32 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by fcojosedea
Thank you for your posts, I will be checking that.

I would love to research OBEs scientifically or spiritual topics rigurously (if possible).
I would also be interested on using OBE as a research tool for many topics.

 47 
 on: November 29, 2016, 03:13:08 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by LightBeam

Now the differences I notice is that I fall asleep more easily. I now can fall asleep while lying on my back. When I successfully do everything, after falling asleep, 10min probably, I wake up but with no feeling and just completely retsted and fully awake, I can meditate but no OBE.



Hi fcojosedea, I also use a technique while falling asleep. My suggestion is to go to bed 1/2 hr prior to your usual bed time when you get sleepy, in order to hold your focus on a technique for at least 20 min.

 48 
 on: November 29, 2016, 03:04:07 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by LightBeam
I work with Quantum Field Theory, specifically particle physics. I have been usually working on unified theories.

Now, I picture you as Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory LOL. Love that show!
Welcome to the pulse!

 49 
 on: November 29, 2016, 02:59:52 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by fcojosedea
Thanks Lumaza for your answer.

I completely understand what you say about reading on OBEs. Back then I studied a lot of physics/math, now I have read way more on OBE's and spiritual matters and I see how much data in my mind clouds things instead of shedding light on it. But reading the topic infuses motivation in me which is also very required.

Wanting to OBE broght me to a whole change of my life, to a whole world of spirituality that I was ignoring and possibilities on explorations.
I am really serious about achieving consistent OBE, it is one of my main goals right now.

 50 
 on: November 29, 2016, 02:53:48 
Started by fcojosedea - Last post by fcojosedea
Thank you Bloodshadow and Saxx for your answer, I will talk further on how I achieved it.

First let me tell you that I don't fall asleep easily (specially back then), I could spend an hour in bed to fall asleep.

There were two times I practiced: One is on a free day I would sleep only 6-7 hours, wake up and go by with my day up until afternoon after my meal. The other time I did this was after 6 hours of sleep, I woke early and went to college for a short class, about 4 hours after waking up and not having eaten anything I went back home and did my practice.

The practice: I laid down on my back (I couldn't fall asleep on my back) and I reapeated an affirmation (curiously unrelated to OBEing, if it was related it brought excitement and didn't work) over and over. I did this for a while, probably 45min, my best cue to the next step is that my hand or leg jerked once (like the occasional jump when you are falling asleep), then I turned on my side, continued repeating the affirmation until I fell asleep (which was pretty quickly). Later, probably about 20min, I would wake up with vibrations or a "fluidic" feeling and I could leave my body at that point.

My experiences were varied, plenty of them included the bedroom or the place where I wanted to project, a few with strong feeling experiences, and a few with very blissfull abstract places. Most of them very short.

I did that technique once a week and had 70%-80% success.


Now the differences I notice is that I fall asleep more easily. I now can fall asleep while lying on my back. When I successfully do everything, after falling asleep, 10min probably, I wake up but with no feeling and just completely retsted and fully awake, I can meditate but no OBE.


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