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 41 
 on: October 22, 2014, 19:45:40 
Started by Stillwater - Last post by Stillwater
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I was not aware of this. Do you remember where you heard this?

I think a lot of it is people expanding the concept with their own visuals and imagery in the Christian tradition, although the root concept of the force of God burning anything less with its radiance is expressed several times in the Bible itself:

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And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. Exodus 33:20

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In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. Isaiah 6

In the Isaiah verse, I have heard it stated that the Hebrew and Aramaic is more suggestive- that they are covering their faces to shield themselves. The implication is that here the highest rank of angels in the Judeo-christian tradition know better than to look at God.

I am not myself a Christian, as that is not how I interface with the world. That said, there are fantastic things to be found in that tradition if you know where to look. I was immersed in Catholocism for several years as an outsider; I found that although I could not accept most of the basic premises ( I knew that going in), that there was much a person could learn from it if they were open to it, just as I had previously learned from the east. Watch a nun pray the rosary in some random Italian hill town and you will see what I mean.

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I think an important thing for people to understand is that this experience is not something that you need a church or guru or other religious leader for. This is a human experience. God however you understand him is for everyone. All people are meant for this not just gifted or special ones.

I whole-heartedly agree on each of these accounts. I think this experience may be a human birthright. It is over and above what many people ever get to experience, but I think the structure is there for any healthy person to experience it if they are led in the right directions. I don't feel like I am a special person for having experienced it (no more than everyone is special at least), but I count myself incredibly lucky.

I badly want to show others how to reach it too, but I know that I shouldn't until I have years of understanding it, before I even suggest how to engage with it. And even then... I want to be sure it is safe for people... I am not completely sure if it fully is at this point. Chasing it down Alice's cave seems like something I really have to take in measured amounts. I want to go far faster than I feel I should. Restraint seems like a virtue here unfortunately. If I am fully sane a couple years from now, I may consider putting the full concept into writing.

 42 
 on: October 22, 2014, 17:48:00 
Started by soarin12 - Last post by LightBeam
Also, I want to be a spiritual helper so it's not like I can expect the people who need help to be hanging out in the 'heavenlies' lol! 

Very true, one time I was pulled into a battlefield type of place. It was foggy, misty and somehow heavy. I saw a bunch of people gathered in a  group, poorly clothed, dusty, standing there looking at each other. I realized they were lost. I got close to them and without speaking, just with thoughts showed them my state of mind, light, path and I mentally told them to use their thoughts to get out of there and go wherever they want without fear. After that one by one they disappeared. I hope they had found their way out of that place.

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 on: October 22, 2014, 17:25:28 
Started by darksidessj25 - Last post by darksidessj25
Crows are very powerful, they are a spirit guide
I just googled it and here's what I came with:
www.spiritanimal.info/crow-spirit-animal

I always see crows around my house, to me they have a meaning of mystery much more than any other signs they can relate to.
They always seem to know something is gonna happen.

In Darksiders 2 as you play Death, You have a Crow always with you that shows you the way.
They are truly a mystery.
I believe that as well. Thanks for the info.

 44 
 on: October 22, 2014, 16:00:30 
Started by soarin12 - Last post by soarin12
I can sure sympathize with that one!

Ha-ha!  It seems we're in beautiful places for a while and then suddenly we get a series of ones with really boring scenery.  Gotta make the rounds, I guess!  Also, I want to be a spiritual helper so it's not like I can expect the people who need help to be hanging out in the 'heavenlies' lol! 

 45 
 on: October 22, 2014, 15:37:02 
Started by soarin12 - Last post by soarin12
It sounds like the real deal. I've posted one where a young girl was in need of help and a few weeks later saw her near the local school. I knew her name for a while, typical dream recall takes over and it'll take time to recall it again. Lol
She is alive and doing fine, there was some problem with her beforehand as I asked a friend if he knew her when I saw her whilst driving. I was informed of a similarity that verified the experience.
These are not that rare too, you'll occasionally realise this when you see a familiar face and the trigger opens the memory of the experience.
The NP personality is far stronger than the physical you possess.
You already have found this out quite naturally in your experiences. wink

Thanks for sharing that.  It really opens my mind to all the different ways projecting can be used.  We can help the living as well as the dead.  And why not?  Makes perfect sense.  In fact all the spiritual gifts - AP, mediumistic gifts, clairvoyance, healing, even the sudden urge to pray for someone - are so much more intimately connected than sometimes I think of in my mind.  I have a tendency to put them in their separate boxes but they all flow together so nicely -all coming from the same Source.

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 on: October 22, 2014, 15:31:52 
Started by CosmicLo7us - Last post by Maria
Great experience!   smiley
I wonder if it was genuine, or if you passed a moral test

Moral test? what is it?

 47 
 on: October 22, 2014, 13:18:32 
Started by WindSong - Last post by Xanth
You don't need to project in order to help him.

Just be there for him and Love him unconditionally. 
THAT is how you "connect with his pure soul".  Smiley

 48 
 on: October 22, 2014, 12:52:54 
Started by OB1 - Last post by OB1
Hi , i was wondering if anyone here had ever built things (ie : buildings ,mountains,pretty much anything) in the astral realms and that they are still there if you go back ?

just wondering about the possibilities...


**** i just found out that this has been done****  Nice ! No need to reply.

 49 
 on: October 22, 2014, 12:52:01 
Started by Stillwater - Last post by Szaxx
The flames I found to be the nearest physical attribute that most would understand.
Lets not forget the burning bush from the bible stories. It was one and the same to a 9 year old lol.
Afterthoughts generated this likeness mostly due to the purity of the helpers. Innocence is bliss has a personal meaning way outside of anything in the physical.
At the time I wasn't sure if being born in a chapel had anything to do with it but that remained an option until this recent revelation.
Niel Armstrong made one giant leap for mankind, I would like all mankind to take this experience for themselves. Perhaps like Tesla we are 'out of time' in the same respect. Trailblazers for future generations.

One must stand before one can walk, one must walk before one can run.
Early days...

 50 
 on: October 22, 2014, 12:42:46 
Started by emilk93 - Last post by Kzaal
To answer your first question, Yes.
When you are starting to be good at Astral Projecting, they last longer, and they are more vivid. Don't worry that you are living this experience in the Physical Realm, you are in sleep paralysis.
If you've had sleepwalking before, I'm not sure if it could affect your AP tho. I'd double check and there is the reality checks also.
When you AP and you feel like it looks too much real, check your surroundings, there's always a variation between reality and NP.
When you realize you're still AP'ing then you can return to your experience.
It's important to double check to remove all doubts.

Now... I know this world can be quite frustrating with all the stuff that happens everywhere on the planet, war, politics, economy, technology, etc., and it's sad that most people are stuck in this circle of financial problems, and every problems someone can get while living as a modern man. Always needing to have the latest gadgets and everything. They want a happy materialistic life, everything is wrong about that. True happiness is never found in a big house and a huge family as long as that person doesn't realize the truth it will be Satisfaction instead of Happiness. Even if they try to fill those holes, the biggest one which is spiritual enlightenment will always be there. As long as you don't understand it.
People are scared of the spirituality, as soon as you talk about ghosts to them their hair stand on end.
You can't save everybody, some people are not ready for it.
You can save yourself tho... Which is already one person.
Succeeding in something bigger than the physical realm goes beyond the physical realm.
If you succeed your spiritual enlightenment you will feel success beyond death.

I can't explain further than this. I feel like I'm repeating myself.
Like Szaxx says... There's far more than where the eye's can't see.

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