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 51 
 on: June 11, 2018, 01:54:46 
Started by DaneClark - Last post by DaneClark
You're asking questions which, literally, have no answers to.

You're also being too "left-brained" about this... stop over-analyzing this stuff.  That kind of thing only works against you.

Yes, they do have answers.  Maybe you just dont understand what I'm trying to do very well.  And my "left brain" is already done working out all the bugs, so all that's left to do is let the left side relax because it knows everything is going to be taken care of.  That will keep it from working against me.

 52 
 on: June 11, 2018, 00:20:41 
Started by DaneClark - Last post by Xanth
Just in case the thing that I heard was nothing more than confirmation bias, it would still be nice if someone who was really good at receiving messages without going OBE so they can be written down could see if I was right.  What I want to know is what precise settings to set the brainwave entrainment device I'm building to in order to reach the state I'm trying to reach, taking into account that my mind was still making revisions to what I wanted that state to be as recently as yesterday
You're asking questions which, literally, have no answers to.

You're also being too "left-brained" about this... stop over-analyzing this stuff.  That kind of thing only works against you.

 53 
 on: June 10, 2018, 21:47:36 
Started by DaneClark - Last post by DaneClark
Just in case the thing that I heard was nothing more than confirmation bias, it would still be nice if someone who was really good at receiving messages without going OBE so they can be written down could see if I was right.  What I want to know is what precise settings to set the brainwave entrainment device I'm building to in order to reach the state I'm trying to reach, taking into account that my mind was still making revisions to what I wanted that state to be as recently as yesterday

 54 
 on: June 10, 2018, 17:01:22 
Started by Targett - Last post by RJA
RJA - 6 years to reply to a post - that has to be some sort of record! 

I have sky-dived too, and whilst I always thought I had absolutely no fear of heights, the sky-dive taught me otherwise. It was a tandem with an ex-SAS guy strapped to my back who did all the chute opening stuff.  But steppping out of a perfectly good plane at a height of 10,000 feet makes you "lose composure"!

AND I'mmmmmm back!  This time after 7-8 years!  Anyway, yes - I'm older now and my kid wants to skydive or hang glide (I did that for awhile in my 20s) but I've told her I wouldn't do it again - I don't like heights much now. I suppose if I didn't have a wife and kids I might, but I was never convinced that skydiving or hang gliding was particularly safe.

 55 
 on: June 10, 2018, 13:57:35 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by EscapeVelocity
So I haven't had much in the way of experiences worth reporting this year, so far; my dream recall has been almost nil for the last two months; various reasons for that, allergies and illness for one. This semi-lucid dream happened this morning and was one where I woke up and then re-entered the dream twice, the first time unexpectedly, the second more consciously and directly. It may fit into a more mundane category and not worth even mentioning, except possibly for two reasons: I wonder if I will return to it tonight for unfinished business, and I distinctly identified a PR (Physical Reality) component to it during one of my re-entries...so I thought to share it.

I will probably edit this post one or more times as new details surface.

Did you ever play that board game "Clue"? The game where every player is a guest in a mansion where a murder has occurred? It's what we call a "who done it"? Randomized clues are introduced and you have to put the "murder plot" together and guess the identity of the murderer in order to win. Here in the USA, during my childhood, it was a pretty commonplace game (although I never owned it myself and only played it once, in my twenties I think). There was a movie by the same name in the Seventies, I think, followed by another similar movie- Murder On The Orient Express. Fun stuff and challenging in that it makes you think deductively and inductively.

Well, after this morning's dream, it occurs to me that this is a perfect scenario for a "Simulation" and a teaching experience as Kurt Leland might describe one. And maybe it is an apt metaphor scenario peculiar to me, as I can remember having this type of dream at least six or more times over my life. I simply didn't recognize it for what it was all those times before; now I do.

Maybe some other members will recognize the pattern in their own experiences and this post will prove at least slightly worthwhile.

So, like my Talking to the Hand experience, I think this was structured to challenge me to raise my NP awareness through a series of challenges, maybe not as complex or intense as that one was, but still the same goal. The question occurs to me- Who set this up? Me or someone else? My subconscious alone, my supposed higher self (whatever that may be)? Or me in cooperation with someone else?
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It was probably 6am and the last REM period and likely the last dream that this started: I don't remember the beginning (which I have found is sort of normal). My first hint of awareness was being in a large fairly-well appointed living room with 10-12 other people. There was no immediate instruction as to what was going on or what we were supposed to do...people just went in various directions, checking rooms, disappearing through doors, some returning, others not. I had no idea and just studied the mixture of people and the confusing array of furniture and interior fixtures: odd pictures with bizarre themes, toys on the floor, a few strange animals wandering about. Very odd stuff and confusing. I did notice one centrally-placed door that more than one person went into and shortly exited from. (all stuff to challenge my awareness with either confusion or realization, I guess)

The scene shifted slightly and I found myself looking at what appeared to be a door leading to the basement, so I went down. There I found a rather primitive and unclean bathroom and realized that I needed to pee (the thought also occurred to me that I was dreaming and had never before peed in a dream). I walked into the bathroom and it was plainly nasty, almost medieval...there was a five foot tall metal barrel enclosure that I would have to spin around in order to have access to the urinal itself. That was just too nasty, but then I looked down at the drain tube underneath it and realized it was dumping directly into a gutter channel carved into the floor and I was already standing in it. YUCK! I almost self-ejected from the dream at that point, but then I realized something. The water was flowing clear. I stepped back and went ahead and urinated in the gutter, realizing that this was a metaphor and message for "going with the flow". (I know, that's a pretty tortured subconscious...but I take ownership of it! It's mine and I'm sticking with it!)

At that point, I woke up into PR and really did have to take a pee. So I did that, grabbed a swish of fresh water and returned to bed. As I lay there, drifting off to sleep again, I wasn't thinking about the dream...I was simply fantasizing about something much more enjoyable. I was still quite awake when it happened...

It felt like a physical hand gently, but firmly slapped me in the center of my back, no mistaking it. I was instantly reminded of the Carlos Castaneda stories of how his mentor Don Juan could "see" Carlos' energy "egg" body and know where the point of his attention was "fixed", and with a directed slap or push, could re-orient Carlos' point of attention and transfer his awareness into the NP. I don't know; all I can say is that this is what happened. I was back in the previous dream.

I was back in the main living room, with all the people assembled. A tall, skinny blonde approached me; she was somewhat attractive and a bit of the sexual urge hit me, but there was also a certain mistrust, so I begged off and she left. Then a cuter brunette approached and we settled on the couch to talk. Then the blonde poked her head in from my left saying, "So you're dumping me for her?" I begged off again, this time from both of them and the scene shifted once again. This time, I was in the living room alone and a guy looking like the British actor Edward Mulhare appeared and motioned for me to follow him. I lost track of him as he maneuvered through a series of doors which led outside the mansion. (I think that with the sex tests and the Ed Mulhare recognition, my awareness was continuing to increase)

Outside, I lost a bit of continuity, maybe there was another shift. I found myself lying down as if amongst a group of dead people. A guy came running out of the mansion, obviously trying to escape. He came upon my area and picked up a heavy assault rifle (like a SAW) and I realized he was going to shoot us. Looking back towards the mansion, I could see good old Mulhare and some others desperately waving at us to go along with the play-acting, the subterfuge. So I lay there while this guy fired several rounds into each of us and then ran off. (now there have been times where I have felt the shots ripping into me and died, but this wasn't one of them)

So the poor guy runs off and they good-naturedly and all in good fun, fire a few rounds over his head, to keep him moving. And it occurs to me that this poor bastard has entirely bought into the simulation and is running for his life...and good lord, I've probably been in his place before, lol. And the crew is all having quite the good time and fun with it!

Scene shift again- I am back alone in the mansion living room. There is a colony of small hermit crabs scuttling about, an organ grinders monkey scampers off, I am just a bit confused...there is still that central door that I haven't been through. So I go through the door. I walk into the room. It is maybe six-sided, with some bizarre, changing artwork on the wall, plenty of stuff to distract. Two guys to my right start chattering in thick, exaggerated European accents, I can't understand what they are saying (I realize that maybe I'm not supposed to; the lesson lies elsewhere). I start to look at the wall hangings but the two guys insist on my attention. I have a serious moment of clarity as I look at them and realize that they are like holographic projections, designed to perform the same scene for whomever walks through the door; they are part of the "Clue" game, so for the next several seconds, I am fascinated with studying them. Then one guy disappears (that kicks my awareness up another notch) and I distinctly remember what the second guy says as he backs up to a huge picture frame. He says, " Be careful of what you say, because if I get the heebie-jeebies, I might just do this!" And with that, he does a backward somersault and fades into the picture frame.

I watch that and think, "Well crap, that's just Phasing and I can do that..." and I think my awareness hit peak.

And I wake up. Here. PR. Or at least I think...lol




 56 
 on: June 10, 2018, 08:49:22 
Started by Kree - Last post by Kree
Thanks Kree for adding some insight into ADHD. For some I do believe it is a label, for others simply a fact of life. Part of what you said resonates with me,

"if I'm talking to someone about a low interest topic I will have internal dialogue with myself about something more interesting, this causes me to miss out on what they say and it's not something I do on purpose."

Totally get you on that. So here is an idea that might help but it's only an idea. It's worked for me so it might work for you. You have more options than just visualization. You said it here,

"Most of the time I'd just start having conversations with dream characters about how I'm supposed to be meditating right now."

That's it, that's your ticket or at least give it a try. Focus on an interesting conversation, doesn't matter if it makes sense and you don't need to visualize anything. Use your other senses, in this case hearing. If visuals do come it's okay.

Hope this makes sense and helps.

Thanks, that actually does help, haven't thought of that. I'll try it, hopefully the drowsiness won't affect it too much.

 57 
 on: June 10, 2018, 07:45:54 
Started by superman - Last post by octave
Quote from: Windwalker
I would recommend the seth material over elias any day. Theres enough material for years of studying without bringing another channel in. Just my opinion.

I agree with you in some ways. Seth is so much more accessible than Elias, his words are felt deeply and are often very poetic. He creates resonances which have great effect on the reader and change them fundamentally.

Elias is, by contrast, somewhat cold and mechanical. His wording is so maddeningly precise it's initially painful to read. The benefit of this, however, is that he communicates with the minimum of distortion. While Seth can often paint in broad strokes ("You get what you concentrate upon"), Elias breaks down what this actually means (concentration is not thought; concentration is attention and is based in our beliefs). It's possible to study Seth for years and hold many misinterpretations - that is why Elias is so valuable to me.

 58 
 on: June 10, 2018, 03:46:53 
Started by Kree - Last post by Nameless
Thanks Kree for adding some insight into ADHD. For some I do believe it is a label, for others simply a fact of life. Part of what you said resonates with me,

"if I'm talking to someone about a low interest topic I will have internal dialogue with myself about something more interesting, this causes me to miss out on what they say and it's not something I do on purpose."

Totally get you on that. So here is an idea that might help but it's only an idea. It's worked for me so it might work for you. You have more options than just visualization. You said it here,

"Most of the time I'd just start having conversations with dream characters about how I'm supposed to be meditating right now."

That's it, that's your ticket or at least give it a try. Focus on an interesting conversation, doesn't matter if it makes sense and you don't need to visualize anything. Use your other senses, in this case hearing. If visuals do come it's okay.

Hope this makes sense and helps.

 59 
 on: June 10, 2018, 02:07:52 
Started by superman - Last post by Windwalker.
All the Seth books are great but The Nature of Personal Reality is the one I'd pick if I had to choose one to recommend.

If you're interested, the current of the Seth teachings have been continued and expanded by another channel. I know, I know... channelers are a dime a dozen and many of them are suspect for various reasons but ask anyone who has studied the Seth material for a long time where to find the best contemporary material and they will point you here:

http://www.eliasweb.org

Plus there's some handy digests here:

http://www.eliasforum.org/digests.html

All the material is free.



I would recommend the seth material over elias any day. Theres enough material for years of studying without bringing another channel in. Just my opinion.

 60 
 on: June 10, 2018, 00:53:56 
Started by Kree - Last post by Kree
I'm 110% with Phildan on this... ADHD doesn't exist.  It's an excuse for big pharma to sell you medication and make BILLIONS of $$$.
First, stop identifying yourself with ADHD... you'll NEVER get past it unless you do this.  Second, focus yourself when you're working on tasks.

"BUT I CAN'T FOCUS!" people say...

BS... you can, you CHOOSE not to.  Stop TRYING to focus, and FOCUS!!  

My god, humanity has fallen so far...

wow, that might be the one thing I disagree with you on. I think of it like this, some people have minds which are organised or low entropy, such people are good at logic, math and getting stuff done, and some people have less organised minds which is useful for getting lots of ideas and being creative, it's a spectrum, someone diagnosed with adhd is just someone whose mind is so unorganized that it negatively impacts life.

People who say it's not real think so because everyone has issues focusing sometimes. adhd isn't an issue about focusing, that's just one of the symptoms. It's a chronic shortage of dopamine which causes people to seek out stimulation all the time, this often comes out in behavior such as fidgeting, non stop talking, desire to run or climb, walking in circles. If something doesn't offer enough dopamine another source will be looked for, for example, if I'm talking to someone about a low interest topic I will have internal dialogue with myself about something more interesting, this causes me to miss out on what they say and it's not something I do on purpose. Most movies don't provide enough stimulus so I have to take breaks to listen to music. Reading text longer than a few sentences is difficult as that's not a very stimulating activity, I've even had to reread your comment maybe 6 times. My mind works significantly better while I'm walking in a circle, that's not normal, but the added stimulus from motion provides me with a bit more dopamine which makes me closer to normal.

If autism wasn't as obvious to other people, you wouldn't believe it either. "Stop TRYING to be normal, and be normal!!"
There's so much research on this, there are physical brain differences which can be seen on brain scans.


BS... you can, you CHOOSE not to.  Stop TRYING to focus, and FOCUS!!  
Literally, my eyes are forcing shut and I feel like I'm falling asleep within 1 minute, and that's as good as it gets. Most of the time I'd just start having conversations with dream characters about how I'm supposed to be meditating right now.


Our minds wander when we are bored that's totally natural and happens to those without the label too.

You say you can't focus on something that is not stimulating. Wrong focus. Focus on whatever takes you away.

Then focusing on the breath, a mantra, sounds, blackness in the eyelids, etc. are the wrong focus.
All that's left is visualization, but so much effort is required just to visualize and think of what to visualize. I've tried it many times for as long as an hour. Kind of hard to relax into it with all that effort.
A simple visualization of just free-falling (I think szaxx mentioned it) would seem ideal but constantly imagining the sensation also gets tiring and the monotony makes it boring, and that's more of a phasing technique than a meditation.
Damn, out of options.

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