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 on: December 10, 2018, 07:54:53 
Started by Plume - Last post by Plume
funny that Lumaza says beautiful picture...ha... thats true he CAN see  grin  now thats magic grin grin grin

 on: December 10, 2018, 07:54:20 
Started by Plume - Last post by T-Man
Let me try posting your pic.

 on: December 10, 2018, 07:52:23 
Started by Plume - Last post by Plume
its frustrating alright rolleyes

 on: December 10, 2018, 07:48:25 
Started by Plume - Last post by Nameless
LOL. Try and try again.

It's not just you, I can't get it to go right either. ;-(

 on: December 10, 2018, 07:42:14 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Nameless
Exactly grin

 on: December 10, 2018, 07:38:38 
Started by Plume - Last post by Plume

 on: December 10, 2018, 07:36:50 
Started by Plume - Last post by Plume
yup I am trying again ... And yes I am pasting the image link in between the the two image thing...[imag] ...right grin here...[ imag]...but its not responding like it did before , wonder if its because I am not on the good connection in town and now at home on a HUB from Bell . remember it happen to be when I magically succeeded with that incredible heart post and lets not forget how it all happen under numbers that only say how magic works, On the 33 third attemps ...WOW!  now that alone is enough for me to believe in my efforts. lets not all be sad if it all fall to the side because its just simply not meant to be undecided I will get over it no pro...
ok ...ready... cross fingers, lets see.

 on: December 10, 2018, 06:40:40 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by LightBeam
Thank you for the encouragement, Nameless! I guess I am not going mental haha. I guess it was a physical response to a non-physical encounter.

 on: December 10, 2018, 06:07:07 
Started by Kree - Last post by Nameless
It sounds to me Kree that you just are not yet fully inclined to trust yourself. You think it is you and only you. It sounds so easy I know but it the ease is deceptive. Maybe try color. For example visualize a blue candle flame. If it changes color without your conscious thought to do so then you indeed are on your way. If that should happen just go with it, don't stop to think about it.

 on: December 10, 2018, 04:43:54 
Started by Kree - Last post by Kree
So how far are you getting? What is it you "expect" to see? What problems are you still having. I am perplexed here. You say you have tried everything  that we all propose to you, yet you don't tell us what the results were. Once again, I have to think that the problem isn't with the method or the techniques. It seems the problem is with your ability to actually release your control. You do it every night while you go to sleep. You just need to learn how to stay consciously aware to obtain that conscious shift.

 That "intent" IS your technique.

You're right, my main issue is most likely the inability to release control, yes, I do it every night when I go to sleep but I have difficulty with even that, I usually fall asleep after I get tired from trying dozens of sleeping positions, I usually end up sleeping on my front probably due to it being easier to breathe, it might make sense to use this position for phasing but I've always found it harder for some reason and so have most other people I've read about. Sitting might be another option. On my front I kind of automatically ping pmr with my attention occasionally even if it is just by thinking and feeling like I'm thinking in my physical body's head. In most other positions I get distracted by the discomfort.

I never really thought about intent being the technique, I always assumed just getting absorbed into any technique will at some point result in that becoming the prominent reality. It does make sense that aligning the intent with the technique will have better results.

"I begin to focus on simple candle flame. I can see it, now it fades, so I bring it back. I can see it again and it fades. The more I bring it back, the stronger the visual is. Now that flame is beginning to morph into a Fireplace setting. I am not consciously directing this. I am just "passively observing" it and "allowing" it the freedom to go in whatever direction it wants. At that point, I have absolutely 0 focus on my "physical body". My entire focus is on whatever I am experiencing there. I have already shifted."

So just imagining a flame and if it disappears bringing it back, not doing anything else? That's kind of a different approach to something like the doorway technique which requires a bit of thought. Might have to try this.

You're falling into the trap of "real vs illusion"... that kind of thinking is going to set you back many years.
Suffice to say through using the technique you're already using, you have direct access to the whole of consciousness. 

WHAT you experience is objective.  The only thing created "by your mind" is HOW you experience it. 

I know that it's ok to start off with an illusion and that there is value in illusion type experiences, but what I meant was that when I make an attempt I don't get to the stage where that place feels as real as here, I can see things if I make a conscious effort but I can't just turn my NP head and see what's there, I can only kind of RV whatever I want to see, and I'm the one providing the data. I can spend an hour in a visualization but it still feels only slightly more intense than what I'd get if I'd visualize right now with my eyes open.

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