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 61 
 on: July 28, 2014, 14:20:12 
Started by sadcatsclub - Last post by sadcatsclub
Thanks all, I've skimmed over Xanth's book once, will look again! I haven't gotten to the astral again since then, a mixture of mindset/disturbance, I can only practice on weekends when waking up, as I have never gotten sleep paralysis before, I find I go into a state of peacefulness, but never get to the stage where I'm ready to go, haven't heard any sounds like ringing yet.  My mantra is usually clear, but I have to put in effort to maintain it as I fall asleep as the words turn into other rhyming words, and I'm just guessing what goes next.

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 on: July 28, 2014, 11:57:46 
Started by lucidexplorer - Last post by Szaxx
Have a read,

 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

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 on: July 28, 2014, 10:48:34 
Started by lucidexplorer - Last post by lucidexplorer
Xanth -
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I'll keep at it. At this point I've gotten so used to all the strange symptoms that I actually welcome it, because I know that means I'm going in the right direction. At first it threw me off quite a bit, but now I know what to expect. The thing that really messed with me a year ago was not only the rapid heartbeat, but on one occasion I experienced the old hag, where I suddenly felt massive pressure on my chest, and another time when I felt pulling on my ankles. A year later I'm much more determined than before, so I'll be sure to report back when I finally have my first astral experience.

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 on: July 28, 2014, 10:35:01 
Started by Aaron330 - Last post by Szaxx
The thought = action thing.
You'll be thinking with a physical world mindset. Hey, it's early days and that's how it is at the beginning.
With 100% lucidity you're more likely to be flitting around from scene to scene.
You'll get the hang of it.

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 on: July 28, 2014, 08:27:51 
Started by sadcatsclub - Last post by Aaron330
Congrats on your first true NP experience man! I had mine not too long ago and I have had 3-4 since and it only gets better from here. Just keep up the good work and keep your desire and intent as high as possible. If you do that, you can't fail.

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 on: July 28, 2014, 08:18:02 
Started by Aaron330 - Last post by Aaron330
It's mostly by your reaction to it and description of it being your wife but not your wife. Your idealizing. It could be a thoughtform superimposed over your wife too.  Thoughtforms give you kind of a WTF feeling Sometimes it can be really strong to the point of being extremely scary. It's too taylored to you to be totally independent. Also if your just starting out, that's mostly what you see in the beginning til you kinda get the generation mechanism under control .  You can name it and put it to work if you want to.

Very good advice, thank you. I honestly just try to stay slow to speak and quick to listen when it comes to this stuff, and I am learning alot both through my experiences, and from seasoned projectors like yourself. I have many questions but I try not to ask them all at once because from what I've learned, most of your questions will be answered through your experiences, and then replaced by 10 more questions lol. I guess that's the way it goes with OBE's.

The only question I'll ask based on your last post is, what do you mean by your last statement of "getting the generation mechanism under control" and "naming it and putting it to work if you want to"?

Thank you again for your input

 67 
 on: July 28, 2014, 07:23:56 
Started by fromromania - Last post by Xanth
It's only a lucid dream if you realize you're dreaming while you're experiencing it.
Otherwise it's just a dream.

 68 
 on: July 28, 2014, 07:15:40 
Started by fromromania - Last post by fromromania
So, today I went to sleep at about 11 am (screwed up sleep schedule), and left some music going on. The thing is that I had a dream in which I was doing the stuff that I do everyday, it felt like it was just a normal day. Everytime I wake up I close my eyes immediatly, trying out some techniques, the thing is that the music volume was loud as hell, and when I opened my eyes it went down to normal. I heard somewhere that you can lucid dream or astral project without realising it. Could this be it? Cheesy

Also, I had a strange dream 2 months back in which I was chatting with my father on skype, and after a few seconds I woke up just to see my dad writing me on skype. I'm always on busy so there's no sounds from skype. It made me shed some happy tears for some reason.

 69 
 on: July 28, 2014, 05:08:55 
Started by lucidexplorer - Last post by Xanth
I haven't yet astral projected (that I know of), and I've only lucid dreamed a couple of times.
The bolded part means you HAVE projected.  Smiley
So now you know you can and have done it.

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About a year ago I started getting into this, and after getting very close and experiencing some things before separation when attempting to project, I freaked out, and it has taken me this long to get back into trying and overcome that fear.
You'll definitely have to learn to push on past that if you wish to progress.  THIS is your test.

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For the past week or two I've altered my daily routine to hopefully increase my chances of a lucid dream,
Here is an article I wrote for my website giving you some tips on how you can increase the chances of becoming aware while you're already sleep.
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2012/02/13/how-to-increase-your-chances-of-having-lucid-awareness-experiences-lucid-dreams/

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and I've also made several attempts at a conscious astral projection. Many times I've gotten to the point of my heart rate rapidly increasing, my eyes fluttering, and a pulling feeling or disorientation. Till a few days ago I had never gotten past this part.
That's the fear test I've spoke about above. 

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But recently I had begun to relax on my couch, laying lengthwise and sitting up a little. I relaxed as deeply as I could, trying to put my body to sleep, then I envisioned myself (or more like, reoriented my perception) as laying the opposite direction on the couch. Whenever I do something like this I notice a pull in the direction that I'm imagining.

This time I stuck with it. I kept imagining what I would see and feel if I were laying the other direction. The pull got stronger and the heart rate symptoms, etc, got more intense. I managed to maintain my concentration and then in an instant the symptoms stopped. It was no longer a struggle to envision myself in this new orientation. I could still feel and sense my body, but in my mind I was experiencing both orientations with ease. All I felt and heard now was an intense buzzing/vibrating at a point on the top of my head. I still felt that if I opened my eyes or attempted to move, that my body would react and I would be pulled out of it.

So what did I do? Did I project? What should/could I have done at this point? It was pretty bizarre, but I felt like I had made a new step forward, since I've never made it beyond the heart beat/eye fluttering/dizziness symptoms before.
Let's start with this statement, "Whatever you can experience is real."
What does that mean?  Well, it means that if you experienced yourself in two different orientations... then that was real.  Obviously someone staring at your physical body while you are experiencing this would venomously disagree with you.  LoL  But then, that doesn't mean anything, because YOU HAD the experience.  It's real.

They're all signs that you're going about this the right way.  What you need now is to deepen that awareness... move it deeper, further away from everything physical.  Keep focusing on what you're doing though, you're doing fine.  Smiley  Ignore the heart beat/eye fluttering/dizziness stuff... ALLOW yourself to move past it.

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 on: July 28, 2014, 05:00:34 
Started by modbarq - Last post by Xanth
Today I woke up and I was very sleepy so i decided to sleep more, but when I tried to sleep I got vibrations and very strong ZZZZZ sound in my head, I was very very sleepy, I stayed awake for few minutes and I tried to sleep again I got the same vibrations and the ZZZZZ sound, I closed my eyes, I start feeling i'm flying then,
These are all normal projection symptoms.  Completely normal and mostly expected.  Smiley 
They mean you're definitely on the right path.

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I dreamed i'm in the same room, I knew it was dream
What I read here is that... YOU PROJECTED!  I personally lose the term "dream" because it's a meaningless label.
You had a non-physical experience where you KNEW (you were consciously aware) you were in a reality which wasn't this physical reality.
That *IS* a projection.  Smiley

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but I couldn't move or do anything, I saw my Father and his eyes was just full white then after few minutes I wake up, every time I put my head on the pillow I start getting strange feelings, vibrations and sounds, since then I didn't sleep till this moment.
This is what you experienced during your projection.  You'll need to break it down into the symbolism present.  Such as not being able move... your father... white eyes... what does it all mean to you?

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If you have any idea about what is happening with me please let me now.
Yeah!  You were more successful than you even begin to realize you were.  Smiley

Congratulations!

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