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 61 
 on: April 15, 2015, 03:47:42 
Started by Justintime - Last post by Justintime
Ok, that makes more sense, for some reason Ive never thought of their being more than one consciousness in my dream. But than again I've seen friends and pets who have passed on in my dreams except those dreams seemed more physical.

Thanks for the clarification.

Sometimes my dreams seem to personal and private to be shared but who knows. Also in the in between states between waking and sleeping, I notice what Im seeing is thought reactive and see crazy vivid images flash before me. Which can lead me to believe, I'm creating my own dreams.

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 on: April 15, 2015, 03:35:58 
Started by Justintime - Last post by Xanth
Well, let's take this physical reality for example.  Who 'creates' (or created and currently creates?) this physical reality?
We do.  We all do.  This is why this physical reality is so much more "stable" than what you would call a "dream".  It has more consciousnesses currently in the process of experiencing and creating.  There's an implication to that thought then... if there was no consciousnesses left here to experience, would this reality then cease to exist?  Smiley

Who creates the world which you find yourself dreaming in?  Well, that'll be whatever consciousnesses are there currently.  You don't have to actively be aware of any other consciousnesses presence though.  It's all in your interpretation of your experience.  Your interpretation of your experience *IS* what you experience.

In the end... what creates what you experience?  You do.  I do.  We all do. 

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 on: April 15, 2015, 03:29:11 
Started by Tongo - Last post by Tongo
Has this ever happened to anyone? you have maybe passed out through some reason maybe even intentionally and had an OBE/AP?
what was it like? are they generally a lot shorter too? I ask this as people who pass out are only out for less than a minute or 2 on average but so many here say that even 30 seconds unconscious can be something like an hour or hours in the astral realm. Is this true? 

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 on: April 15, 2015, 03:27:34 
Started by Justintime - Last post by Justintime
Xanth, that does confuse me a bit, but it also reminds me a bit of A Course In Miracles, The Matrix, Hinduism, Buddhism and of course Edgar Allan Poe.

I' m still confused about what you and others believe dreams to be exactly. I believe it was you or Szaxx who started this whole adventure by taking their dreams seriously and by not seeing a difference between the waking world and the dream world.

It still confuses me and if you could answer the question of who or what creates the world of the dream in your opinion it might help me understand your point of view.


 65 
 on: April 15, 2015, 02:45:45 
Started by Justintime - Last post by Xanth
Here's another concept to confuse you even more...

This physical reality we all exist in is also nothing more than just another astral/dream world.  Smiley

Considering the above concept should also provide you with some answers to the questions you asked.

 66 
 on: April 15, 2015, 02:32:08 
Started by Justintime - Last post by Justintime
So, in reading up on theories regarding the dreamworld most people here agree that the dream world and the astral world are the same or similar. And in fact everyone travels Astrally every night when they're dreaming. Which would lead me to conclude that our dreamworlds and actors are not created by our subconscious in the moment of the dream. I would argue that most of my dreams are in fact the creation of my subconscious. I think there's a part of us that is always creating because we are naturally creative beings. My dreams seem to to be created by me and serve one of the following functions:

1. Resolution of a past problem that cannot be resolved- the dream rewrites and desires to rewrite my past, especially situations where I messed up again and again.
2. Wish Fullfillment- Usually sexual dreams but sometimes having to do with playing high school sports for example because I never did.
3. Processing the Day Dreams- These dreams replay the day in strange ways sometimes and at other times in sensible ways.
4. Fantasy- lastly dreams that are fed by the imagination to create something else.

My dreams almost always fit in one of those categories. So it tells me these are personal places in my subconscious that I'm visiting not a pre existing place  in the astral world.

How does the other side of the argument go? Are these dreamworlds in the Astral Plane and Are they already created? Were they created by our subconscious? Are the people in our dreams our creation and therefore only existing within the dream and not real so to speak. And if someone could answer the title questions too I'd appreciate it.

Thx

JT

 67 
 on: April 14, 2015, 14:24:10 
Started by Bluefirephoenix - Last post by Bluefirephoenix
Szaxx not only time travel but things like bilocation. Once you cross a certain threshold of development I think basically you loose the restrictions of the physical. I don't think it's common because the belief of the world's population reinforces those restrictions but I do think it's entirely possible.

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 on: April 14, 2015, 14:20:56 
Started by Drakoreo - Last post by Bluefirephoenix
It would be hard to do those things that you want to do without being trained first. Do you know how to communicate with angels?

 69 
 on: April 14, 2015, 11:46:10 
Started by PlasmaAstralProjection - Last post by Blazewind
I have certainly had what fits the OP's definition of spontaneous experiences one a few occasions.  One, oddly enough was actually partly confirmed after the fact.  Always from a sleeping state too.  I have actually had a few really neat experiences, but sadly I don't tend to consider them true successes.  I have never projected with full intention and and from a non-dreaming state.  A fully conscious remains a goal of mine, but I do see a link between intending to do so, an openness to the idea and a tendency to project spontaneously from dreams, ect.  By trying to do so, consciously or not, we certainly gave our minds a great suggestion and surely the mind is happy to take us up on it.    It;s my belief that the human consciousness wants to do such things anyway, and if we basically give it permission, well them of course off it goes.           

 70 
 on: April 14, 2015, 11:30:16 
Started by aspirine101 - Last post by aspirine101
Wow! These replies were very informative!

I wanted to say that now that I've read astralm's reply about the eyes problem I also agree that the eye muscles tense when I stare, which causes them to open up a bit. It really feels like it has to do with muscles, I just didn't think about it. What I also wanted to say that apparently I can close my eyes twice. At first I just close the eyelids but the eyes are still open, allowing me to see the blackness but constantly being interrupted by opening, but then I realize that while they're closed I can... close them again. I'm pretty sure I just do something with the muscles and I'm not really "closing" them again. Anyway when I do close them for a second time it's much harder to see the blackness but they're unable to open automatically anymore.

I don't think the eye problem is caused by excitement or anxiety, but maybe I do need to relax a little more before trying it.

And about this comment: "maybe what was the past yesturday is not the past today, which is perhaps not the past of tomorrow. "
Yes that might be, but what happened has happened, and isn't it being stored somewhere? Like what you guys call the akashic records. I think everything is stored somewhere whether in happened in this reality/time line or not.

Anyway I'm sure I will have some more questions coming in the near future, for now I thank you very much for finding the time to post these replies, it means much to me Smiley

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