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 on: November 26, 2016, 06:30:08 
Started by HappyPlace - Last post by Xanth
In Happyplace's case the term "accidental" is warranted. But I don't think it shares it share the same "characteristics" per se. as a "spontaneous" projection does.
Touche!  Quite correct, indeed.  Smiley

Actually, what HP recounts is what happens to me mostly when I sit down to "meditate". 
You just kind of find yourself "elsewhere".  A happy problem.  To say the least.

 on: November 26, 2016, 03:16:14 
Started by HappyPlace - Last post by HappyPlace
Yes I have tried to Astral travel or to have an out of body experience before, funny when I try I cant relax enough  grin I do meditate to help with anxiety and to help with what ever block seems to have happened when my father suddenly passed back in 2013.  I used to dream every night, beautiful vivid dreams, but now not much. I feel I must not be dealing with grief very well ( I bottle stuff up) I was guided to try meditation.  I am going to try a few suggestions here and see if I can attempt it as a goal.  I will say the only scary part was the lady screaming in my ear.  other than that I was more like "whoa this isn't so bad" Plus I was really wasn't prepared, there was no goal to see my spirit guide or a love one that has passed. 
  Also any insight to the screaming lady was?  I see that hearing voices is very common and nothing to be scared of.  I just don't understand why we hear these voices, as to what they are.  thanks for any guidance.  Its nice to see others who are growing and embracing the spiritual side to our beings.

 on: November 26, 2016, 02:26:51 
Started by Positive3 - Last post by AAAAAAAA
Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

If this life is projection of my mind and everything is consciousness and perception creates out reality , does it mean that there is actually no objective opinion? or the fact that i think that there is no objective opinion is just my subjective opinion and if it's so it can actually be objective Cheesy

I would ask your to prove, or at least give some kind of warrant, that your "if" statement about life being a projection of mind is true, or even makes sense. If you can't prove that.

Secondly, I hate to be the guy that nitpicks, but it is indeed true that there are no objective opinions. By definition (a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge), an opinion cannot be objective. It is just a view or judgement, not an objective statement.

Objectivity is not just thinking something, or having an opinion about something. It is knowing something.

And ya I know some people aren't going to like that.

 on: November 26, 2016, 01:58:41 
Started by HappyPlace - Last post by Lumaza
Most people end up here because of such "accidental" projections.

You've taken the first step to a long journey.  Smiley
In Happyplace's case the term "accidental" is warranted. But I don't think it shares the same "characteristics" per se. as a "spontaneous" projection does.
 Happy's experience occurred as a result of meditating on his 3rd eye while falling asleep. In other words, there was some form of intended experience or at least knowledge of what meditating could lead to.
 The majority of people that I hear that describe their own "spontaneous" experience say that this happened right out of the blue. They went to sleep as normal and at some point in time during the night, they became aware that they were looking at their body sleeping or that they floating above it. There was no intent or meditation ritual that they performed before sleep. Many of these people didn't even know what "astral projection, was to begin with.

 on: November 25, 2016, 22:23:45 
Started by HappyPlace - Last post by Xanth
Most people end up here because of such "accidental" projections.

You've taken the first step to a long journey.  Smiley

 on: November 25, 2016, 20:52:15 
Started by HappyPlace - Last post by HappyPlace
I went to meditate the other day, which usually has me falling asleep, but this time I focused on my third eye.  It seemed I was dozing off but was brought to by the feeling and sound of what I would describe as going down a dirt/gravel road. I was aware of what was happening as what I felt to be a sensation of being pulled by my feet quickly out of my body.  It scared me and I instantly popped back in to my body, but the noise and sensation was still going on and my mind clearly said "its going to be okay" and I let the sensation pull me out again.  It felt so fast, like I was going to fly into my mirror that sits on the wall at the end of my bed.  Yet when I got pulled out I suddenly stopped and was upright in mere seconds. Then suddenly I was back at the side of my bed, I remember hearing a wind like noise (reminded me of my son's white noise machine) and suddenly a woman's voice screamed in my left ear "Get back in".  It scared me and suddenly I was back in my body, I couldn't open my eyes at first but I started to consciously try to relax and wake up.  Anyone accidently have an OBE?  I have been reading up (thank you for a great website) so that when it happens again I know I have more control and wont be so scared.   

 on: November 25, 2016, 08:37:15 
Started by Astralsuzy - Last post by spark
Hello.  I just thought I would add a little.  I am not someone that reads much about chakras or the like.  Nor, have I read much about Robert Bruce's Energy Work system.  But, I have communicated a number of times with Robert.  He's a smart and knowledgable guy.  So, I have a good impression that his Energy Work system is very good.  Personally, I am rather sensitive to so called energy -- visually and physically.  I interact with it in many ways, much of the time.  But, frankly, everyone does.  They just don't realize it.  It's just to varied degrees.  Based on my experience, energy work (I'm using that term generally ... meaning, learning how to clear, built and interact with energy, etc.) is extremely useful for basically everyone one does.  It's like saying: "what use is air? or food? or moving?"  Well, except that energy may be broader in some ways than those.  Yes, we can live with minimal understanding.  But, energy affects everything we do -- from athletics, to creativity (e.g., painting, singing, writing replies to posts on web sites smiley) or whatever you may do.  For me, I like to focus on how to use energy for sports ... it's wonderous and very effective (e.g., helping the body to integrate and function as a unit, helping the body to follow a smooth and direct flow, causing the body to quickly direct force via energy impulse, etc.) ... but, these are just a few examples applied in the context of sports.  I would like to emphasize that it is just really useful in many ways.  It is totally concretely useful ... in my opinion/experience.  In my opinion, there are many paths one can take to work with energy.  Robert Bruce's energy work is probably a good place to start.  Personally, I tend to do standing poses that are essentially qigong standing poses ... though, I tend to do them more based on how it feels.  I suppose that I would also like to add that whatever you do, it is probably good to follow what "feels" good to you to do.   If some energy work feels good ... that is likely great for you.  This might vary based on one's set of circumstances ... Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth ... Or, I suppose 0 cents worth, since its free

 on: November 25, 2016, 02:16:06 
Started by Astralsuzy - Last post by LightBeam
I think it's simple. Everything in the multiverse is made of energy. Here we perceive it as solid matter which cant be manipulated very easy, nevertheless in a smaller scale everything is energy waves. Now, we all have experienced in the non-physical environment that thoughts manipulate energy, create, modify, etc. The same law applies here although we cant perceive it instantaneously. Consciousness type (spirits) that can make decisions, change and interact with the building blocks (energy) of our environments at all times, even when we think we don't (not focused specifically).  So, if we realize that each thought molds the energy which creates everything around us including circumstances, we will be very careful what thoughts and emotions dominate on a daily basis. They are shaping our future. It is very important to be aware of this occurrence. More intense focus of course will bring results faster. Think of a construction worker that places one brick per day and in between sits around not doing much. The building will eventually get built if he stays focused on this task but it will take long. If the same worker places 1000 bricks per day, the building will be finished sooner. The bricks represent the energy. If you use it in the right way, you will bring more things that you want into your life. If you don't focus, then your scattered thoughts and subconscious beliefs, fears, limitations will be leading the manipulation of energy to create your life. If you focus and make intentional effort, you can eliminate some old beliefs and barriers by analyzing your current situation.
Energy healing for example is possible, but what is it? It is that same energy we are discussing that construct every cell of your body. Your thoughts can manipulate this very energy, thus changing its autoplay mode.
The most important thing though is to have confidence and KNOW that it will work. If you have doubts, these very thoughts of doubt and fear will also be manipulating the energy and creating.

 on: November 24, 2016, 23:19:13 
Started by Astralsuzy - Last post by Volgerle
My opinion is that anyone that says there is nothing to "energy work", hasn't actually done any themselves yet.
This is my impression too.  cool

You also "can" have physical effects directly (next to non-physical benefits). E.g. in some studies athletes built up muscles only by "thinking" they did work-outs. I believe they did a kind of energy work with directed thought on body movement too. Or Robert Bruce mentions an example you can test yourself, a quick and easy one. Just let a lightball go up and down your big toe and you will see (or better: feel) how it will heat after a minute or two. I used to warm my feet with this when they got cold.  wink

 on: November 24, 2016, 20:35:26 
Started by Astralsuzy - Last post by Lumaza
Don't forget that energy work also involves thought, for the most part. Focussed thought. Energy goes where your attention goes. Attention is focussed thought. Hence: You also heal with thought when you heal with directed energy / attention.
My opinion is that anyone that says there is nothing to "energy work", hasn't actually done any themselves yet. Just take a look at this thread. Give this an honest effort and you will see for yourself or should I say "feel" for yourself, how real energy work really is.

 As Xanth says, it is belief based. But isn't the entire practice of Astral Projection "belief based"? Belief is a big part of everything we do. Belief creates our reality or should I say at least it plays a major part in it.

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