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 91 
 on: November 06, 2018, 00:44:21 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by luffy28
Just a quick reply with something ive had success with Luff AND I have sleep apnea. As far as sleep apnea goes simply lay on your left or right side so your throat doesnt collapse. As far as technique do you have a phone with a voice memos app for voice recordings? Record 4 hours of silence and then edit the recording where one alarm goes off in 20 minute intervals after the first hour or so of silence. You dont want an alarm that blasts you out of bed and fully awakens you that you need to turn off yourself. You want an alarm that gently rouses you from sleep and awakens you so you are slightly aware. Then relax as if going back to sleep and monitor/explore that sleep/wake line for sounds or energy sensations. After the first hour of silence in the recording set several alarms in 20 minute or less intervals so you have seberal chances to awaken at the sleep/wake line because that is where the obe ohenomenon resides. With trial and error you can adjust the volume of the “ramp timer” alarms so they only gently rouse you from sleep. Also-you will need to change the actual sound of the alarms after your mind becomes accustomed to them because it will sleep thru them knce it has.  My ramp timer had several different sounds in each recording and i have several recordings with different incremental alarms so as to switch things up. Ive had much success with this technique but im semi retired so i dont always need to get a solid 8 hrs. sleep either! You must be diligent in doing this so as to familiarise yourself with that area of consciousness. Good luck!

Do you (or anyone else) know what app I can use to play this during sleep once I have it edited?

Thanks.

 92 
 on: November 06, 2018, 00:36:23 
Started by SCHMUSTIN - Last post by SCHMUSTIN
As soon as you consciously heard the sound, you should have immediately relaxed as if you were going back to sleep, with the sole thought of relaxing more and more to bring on vibrations. The singular thought/excitation is enough to keep you from actually falling back asleep. You were in the theta brainwave state when you consciously heard the sound and if you awaken even slightly more you will move out of the theta state as you awaken, hence you needing to relax immediately so as to keep you in the theta state. The theta state is where vibrations/energy sensations occur in which you project from. Also-eliminate all fear of the noises being outside of you as if a tornado ready to sweep your wife away. You must fearlessly relax knowing that the sound is solely an inner sensation that precedes vibrations. You can recreate the event you experienced by relaxing as if to go back to sleep each and every time you awaken so it becomes second nature. Then these events will happen more frequently vs. a one time deal. Many people are unable to consciously remain awake during the theta state so they never experience energy sensations, so that is a huge bonus for you in your quest to AP. Be sure to  consciously attempt to recreate this experience by always exploring the sleep/wake line of consciousness by remaining awake as you hover close to the line, every single time you awaken or you will eventually forget to do so and your experiences will once again become random events. You are close to having your mind blown buddy!

Windwalker,

LOL...I am ready to have my mind blown friend!!

As soon as I made the decision to wake up I knew what had happened and how close I was to a full exit... But now I know what to do next time!

Thank you for your confirmation as to what I believe I had experienced.

 93 
 on: November 05, 2018, 23:31:09 
Started by MarsZM - Last post by Windwalker.
What is your technique for getting out? It sounds like your body isnt quite enough asleep/relaxed and it is close to the “wake” side of the “sleep wake line.” Do you have vibrations or hypnagogia or.....? Be sure to focus solely on relaxing before you actually exit and once out dont try to do so many things at once like visiting friends or “higher self now” etc. Focus solely on the environment you are in as intensely as possible with one intent at a time by examining one thing or utilizing other senses but only one at a time intently. Good luck!

 94 
 on: November 05, 2018, 23:27:34 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by luffy28
You need a “tape recorder” luff. It is very simple. Its called “voice memos” on the iphone which the app store has a zillion tape recorder apps which im sure google has even more. Or simply buy one of those cheap digital recorders at walmart. The point of the “ramp timer” is to gently rouse you from sleep without blowing you out of bed. If you have 10 alarms set in a four hour period,  five of them most likely wont even wake you up at all because they must be gentle alarms so as to not awaken you fully. But once you do gently rouse from sleep from one of the alarms and become conscious, you MUST then immediatley relax as if you were going back to sleep. It is in that small window that you will sometimes experience enrgy sensations or strange sounds,  which turn into vibrations IF you relax and dont fully awaken. You are trying to stay awake and aware during the theta brainwave state. If you really wanna do this then get creative bro.

Thanks. Can't I just use the tape recorder on an android? Also, I wanted to know the type (or name) of an app I can get on google play.

I was going to also post this before I caught your response.

Found a couple of hours of silence from YouTube. Can someone guide me (or give a link) of what types of sounds I should put onto/ into/between the silence once I've downloaded it for personal use?

Thanks.

Edit: Is this the app you were talking about?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skl.voicememos&hl=en_US


 95 
 on: November 05, 2018, 23:23:33 
Started by luffy28 - Last post by Windwalker.
You need a “tape recorder” luff. It is very simple. Its called “voice memos” on the iphone which the app store has a zillion tape recorder apps which im sure google has even more. Or simply buy one of those cheap digital recorders at walmart. The point of the “ramp timer” is to gently rouse you from sleep without blowing you out of bed. If you have 10 alarms set in a four hour period,  five of them most likely wont even wake you up at all because they must be gentle alarms so as to not awaken you fully. But once you do gently rouse from sleep from one of the alarms and become conscious, you MUST then immediatley relax as if you were going back to sleep. It is in that small window that you will sometimes experience enrgy sensations or strange sounds,  which turn into vibrations IF you relax and dont fully awaken. You are trying to stay awake and aware during the theta brainwave state. If you really wanna do this then get creative bro.

 96 
 on: November 05, 2018, 23:09:21 
Started by SCHMUSTIN - Last post by Windwalker.
As soon as you consciously heard the sound, you should have immediately relaxed as if you were going back to sleep, with the sole thought of relaxing more and more to bring on vibrations. The singular thought/excitation is enough to keep you from actually falling back asleep. You were in the theta brainwave state when you consciously heard the sound and if you awaken even slightly more you will move out of the theta state as you awaken, hence you needing to relax immediately so as to keep you in the theta state. The theta state is where vibrations/energy sensations occur in which you project from. Also-eliminate all fear of the noises being outside of you as if a tornado ready to sweep your wife away. You must fearlessly relax knowing that the sound is solely an inner sensation that precedes vibrations. You can recreate the event you experienced by relaxing as if to go back to sleep each and every time you awaken so it becomes second nature. Then these events will happen more frequently vs. a one time deal. Many people are unable to consciously remain awake during the theta state so they never experience energy sensations, so that is a huge bonus for you in your quest to AP. Be sure to  consciously attempt to recreate this experience by always exploring the sleep/wake line of consciousness by remaining awake as you hover close to the line, every single time you awaken or you will eventually forget to do so and your experiences will once again become random events. You are close to having your mind blown buddy!

 97 
 on: November 05, 2018, 22:59:55 
Started by MarsZM - Last post by MarsZM
It’s not an immediately easy question to answer for many reasons-

Sometimes it is just the difficulty of maintaining our NP awareness, not getting caught out by distractions, excitement, confusion...just this in itself is an exercise in strengthening our awareness and how to continue the experience.

Other times it can be a lack of proper intention, not having a definite purpose in mind for your NP experience. Without a proper intent, often an experience is simply ended either by us or for us. This doesn’t sound like your situation but I did want to mention it for the general benefit of everyone.

Often, the inability to move from our current environment is because we have not yet recognized that a challenge has been set before us, a test of sorts. Early on, it can be a very simple kind of test: The recognition that we are in our bedroom or house; that we are in a NP approximation of our bedroom or house. Stating this recognition mentally may begin to open some more possibilities. So, if our experiences are ending suddenly and without explanation or understanding, it may be that we have missed something, a vital clue or lesson within the current environment; and thus the experience is aborted. It can be a difficult and frustrating way to learn. If an experience repeats one or more times, this is a definite sign that we are not responding properly. It can be as simple as literally “asking the environment what is expected of you”. Sometimes a voice may respond. An easy enough thing to do, I just almost never remember to do it, Lol.

Demonstrating a clear intention, whether to visit a friend or to pass from your bedroom and out to the kitchen, the ability to do this will begin to become noticable and necessary. Sometimes it just naturally flows without barely a thought, other times your intention must be declared in a very definite way. So, it can take more than a few tries.

Another aspect is possibly involved, and that can include your energy level, or very possibly the current development of your NP senses. These are not your five PR senses; there are many new NP senses you can discover but that takes time; they are not Physical but that is how you are forced to translate them initially, because you really have no other frame of reference to understand the new information you are perceiving. So it is an uncertain kind of search, frustrating but also challenging and intriguing. Traveling beyond your PR body and cruising the neighborhoods and further beyond may require some NP senses that will require a little more time to come online, so you need to understand that this can often be the reason for the loss of consciousness; it does get better over time. So, some of the best advice can be to stay open as possible and be ready to think beyond the Physical Reality. Again, progress will require more than a few tries. Write all your experiences down in some form of journal and over time you will see patterns and improvement.

Keeping in mind the fact that neither I, nor anyone, can really know just where you are or what you should next focus on, my suggestion is to stay close to home in your OBEs and explore locally. Look for the possible tests you are being challenged with and make the occasional excursion to visit a friend. At this point, possibly the best advice is that when you find yourself in an OBE- simply ask mentally for the best and most beneficial lesson the Universe could grant you (that’s the default Intent, Lol).

Hope that gives some ideas to consider,
EV



Thanks escape! I have had a ton of OBES since 2011... I used to be super active in trying to get out. Not much anymore... but I have had well over 100. The crazy part is I never struggled with any of this. Back when I ate junk food and drank fluoride water I was seeing spirits walk around and my third eye was always buzzing... I was having insanely powerful OBES. After a while my OBE's began to weakn... I even went vegetarian for a while and did an all organic diet... drank well water from a nice well underground... really focused on my health... and that didn't seem to do anything. When I am out of body now they are incredibly weak. Sometimes I can only see and can't hear... Most time I can't hear or so I just find myself walking around bumping into walls and this reality is 100x more real. So after a while I said gosh this isn't even worth it... I will sit there and stare at my hands and shout "GIVE ME SIGHT" "CLARITY NOW!" and nothing even changes... The experience remains weak and quite honestly no fun and it bums me out. It's sluggish and I cant move right. I used to be a pro and walk around just like I do here.

I am so glad that back in the day I was able to experience projections so real and powerful. Otherwise I would be questioning a lot more right now. I know how real they can be. I just find it funny when I ate junk food and drank diet sodas my psychic abilities were off the charts. Everything has seemed to weaken.... I still try and eat somewhat healthy and do the best I can but in no way am I on an organic diet.

My intent to get out of body hasn't really been there lately... I bet that plays into it... I would rather just sleep lately because its not so draining unless I have nightmares. Most of the time my dreams are so real and vivid they feel like astral projections I am just not aware of it.. It can be draining... This life is already crazy.... sometimes I just want to go to bed in a void of blackness and wake up feeling refreshed. When you're constanty having dreams that are so intense it adds up quick!

 98 
 on: November 05, 2018, 21:29:32 
Started by EscapeVelocity - Last post by SCHMUSTIN
I don't need 60 to 90 minutes anymore either. The reason it took that long in the beginning was that "I" was the one getting in the way of any successes. I would have a symptom and lock onto that, instead of just "passively observing" it. Once I had a few successes, I was taught by a mentor (deceased Brother-inlaw) the importance of "passively observing" and mentally "allowing" things/the shift to occur.

I am having a hard time with the "passively observing"... I find it is better now a days, then it was a year ago. But I always latch on to a new sensation when they/it arises.

Is there a trick to this or is it simply a practice item?

 99 
 on: November 05, 2018, 21:15:37 
Started by SCHMUSTIN - Last post by SCHMUSTIN
Now the AP is back up I can finally post this LOL!!

So a couple nights ago I fell asleep saying a new mantra over and over "I Am, Going To Project".

I went to bed at around 9:15 pm and was probably sleeping with in 10 - 15 minutes. At around 12:30 the below happened.....

As I was sleeping I was woken up by this loud pulsating sound. The sound would come in short and get closer together.
I recall waking up to pitch black and managed to not move. As if the sound had woke me up and I was laying their listening for it to come back before I decided to either get up and check of go back to bed.

As I was laying there in the dark not moving wondering what it was that woke me up, it seemed to take a while for the sound to come back and I recall thinking that I was hearing things and I should just go back to sleep.
Right then the sound rushed back in. It started rushing in louder and faster till a one point it was a constant roaring in my head and almost had a 3D quality to it like so sort of vibration sensation but not the typical vibrations.

Once the sound was constant i became worried about my wife and was wondering what was going on and i ended up waking up to check. I know now what was going on.

One strange thing was... Once this was over I was so hungry and thirsty I had to get up and have a snack and a drink.

Just a cool experience I had, any responses are welcome.

 100 
 on: November 05, 2018, 19:00:42 
Started by Fresco - Last post by Fresco
So I had another AP 3 nights ago.  This time I saw what looked like aliens.
They didnt look quite human.  They were much shorter and had large ears.

Is it normal to see ET's when AP'ing??

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