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 91 
 on: August 14, 2018, 09:58:08 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Stillwater
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What is your opinion on the human evolution. Do you believe we have evolve from apes in a natural way - environment and climate changes?

I think the system we are living in now offers sufficient explanation for how all of this happened. I think the standard view of evolution is sufficient to explain the current state of affairs. We evolved through small incremental changes which usually offered a major survival advantage, or else were neutral changes, that nonetheless set the stage for other useful changes later. Each small gain in intelligence made the individual more fit to survive and reproduce in the environment. You can add quite a lot of intelligence before intelligence stops leading to more surviving children (we seem to possibly be at that point now, but it can be argued that it is because the majority is being propped up by the intelligence of the few excellent among us now).

Now I also tend to think that this apparently physical system is embedded in another system, but while I think it was implied by your question, it is outside the scope.


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Do you believe the above, but also with alien interference perhaps to change our DNA along the way and give us periodic boosts in intelligence?

I don't think we need alien intervention to explain what we currently have.

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Do you believe already "formed" homo sapiense were palced on earth either by God as christianity tends to think or perhaps by aliens?

No, same answer as above to both.


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Do you believe our bodies are designed to eat both meat and plants. I have heard many philosophers arguing plant only eating due to some biological body specifications. But sceince studies show that plant only diet lacks some essential nutrients that can only be supplied by animal products.


I have a bias here, since I am a vegetarian.

Looking at the evidence, based on what our nutrient-based needs are, it seems pretty clear that our genetic past expects us to be omnivores. We have adaptations for eating fruit over and above what most animals have, and we have clear needs for animal-based iron and B12.

In the modern age, we can synthesize these compounds, and so no longer have the need to obtain them from animal sources.

My argument is that animals are harmed in the production of animal products, so if we can obtain the same nutrients from artificial sources that don't lead to harming animals, that is the ethical choice.




 92 
 on: August 14, 2018, 07:43:06 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by baro-san
Well my body thinks I need sugary stuff and it works since decades lol. But it can be addictive and causing bad choices indeed.

Just people need to ask one thing from themselves. Where the human race fits into the food chain on this planet? Not mentioning accidental or stupid deaths by stronger animals lol. The human body is not really similar to any other animals by look and accuracy. It was designed, right? Right Cheesy

1. Looks are deceiving

2. The reason rodents are used as models in medical testing is that their genetic, biological and behavior characteristics closely resemble those of humans, and many symptoms of human conditions can be replicated in mice and rats

3. A sugary diet will sicken you badly, even if you take your sugar only from organic fruits.

4. Definitely a diet lacking the nutrients the human body needs isn't healthy, and will yield bad heath.

5. It would be nice to have the answers to all our questions, but we have to concentrate, in my opinion, on the practical ones: Why am I here now; what am I supposed to try to accomplish during my life? Why are humans here now; what are humans supposed to try to accomplish during their lives?


 93 
 on: August 14, 2018, 04:10:58 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Phildan1
Well my body thinks I need sugary stuff and it works since decades lol. But it can be addictive and causing bad choices indeed.

Just people need to ask one thing from themselves. Where the human race fits into the food chain on this planet? Not mentioning accidental or stupid deaths by stronger animals lol. The human body is not really similar to any other animals by look and accuracy. It was designed, right? Right Cheesy

 94 
 on: August 14, 2018, 01:38:20 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Nameless
Hmm, I don't think we evolved from apes at least not all of us. I actually think we evolved or were genetically modified from a variety of earth inhabitants. Yes that includes apes, lol.

I don't think human intelligence evolved though. If that were true then this type intelligence would be more wide spread than just within mankind. So my thought is that yes indeed we were manipulated - by God(s), Aliens - who knows. Likely a mess of everything you can perceive.

I think we are capable of consuming pretty much anything as a collective. Of course we have to be careful as although your neighbor might can consume motor oil it doesn't mean you can. My point is that this points to a huge diversity that only a few other native Earth animals posses. This tells (me) we should eat whatever our bodies will allow. One thing we do is obsess way too much about diet.

If anyone has ever been in a starvation (or nutrient dire) situation they could probably tell you that your body KNOWS what it needs. If there is a chance IT will eat IT whether your brain agrees or not. I know I've been there.

 95 
 on: August 14, 2018, 01:14:32 
Started by Karin - Last post by Nameless
Hey Karin, welcome to both you and Plume. smiley

 96 
 on: August 14, 2018, 01:07:36 
Started by Karin - Last post by Karin
Testing photo.

 97 
 on: August 14, 2018, 00:51:06 
Started by Karxx Gxx - Last post by Karxx Gxx
Ah. I have made a fun game that i lived by for a while. And created one of my favorites!

It's What is the last word(s) you tell yourself to live by COMPLETELY!!!!!
Warning: challenging AND fun! Easy lesson learning for EVERYONEEEE Grin

Lessoned learn:After awareness, it would be that with awareness YOU can ALWAYS change your path Smiley

 98 
 on: August 13, 2018, 23:40:23 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Volgerle
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meat with eggs is a good protein source so meat deniers (no, not you) should consider this as we "evolved" eating everything.
Of course I am for freedom for everyone to eat what they want, and yes, certainly we 'can' eat at least cooked meat, so from this viewpoint we are also carnivores and therefore omnivores.

I still think the 'good for evolution' argument is debatable imv. It is still often quoted this way from a 'science' view but seems outdated.

Newest discoveries showed that our ancestors were mainly on a plant-based diet (entirely or mainly herbivores) and only as exceptions did the hunting for meat. Also our digestive system and the chewing mechanism is more apt for plant- than meat-based eating and more similar to animals of this kind (herbivores). So it shows we rather 'evolved' as herbivores.

Also our nearest ones on Earth, the apes, are not really carnivores either. They eat also almost plant-based and always were, meat with a few insects are also the exception.

Here's one link I just found quickly: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/

 cool

Cannot find more links now, had a few studies, but I remember I read it here and there. Of course, opinions on this may differ, also among so-called experts.

(Btw. I do not believe in the strictly Darwinist theory evolution but this is a topic I do not want to debate any longer here or elsewhere  wink ).

 99 
 on: August 13, 2018, 22:42:04 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Phildan1
Noticed that lol. I'm watching out for them too in my life.



Plume, in a parallel universe, somebody is on a strict "Plume diet" Smiley If not on human vs meat lol. But meat with eggs is a good protein source so meat deniers (no, not you) should consider this as we "evolved" eating everything.


 100 
 on: August 13, 2018, 22:25:44 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by Plume
Hi Philand1 wink
Just a note to say that you have some cool numbers when you posted 3:13:33 love my numbers you know and you post 144 messages.  rolleyes
Sorry I notice numbers and love to wink at them.
BTw , I donít really care if I am being farm like the way it may be perceive , we could also be playing games of spitting ourself  just because we can and taking a ride all along. And who is ďthey ď really ....Huh

I say that and at the same time I see how much pain some have to go to become aware that we all have a say when we power ourselves , itís a matter to shine and make this a place that we can all express our being in some kind of harmony. The more I look the more I see equally that there is amazing beautiful expression but often that will bore the mass that wants drama to feel alive so we as a mass choose to focus on those aspects and make this come through. Not that we need to ignore those possibilities , just be aware how you give it energy is the key to keep it balanced.
Also the conversation about the reason we chose a special diet is about a choice from what I want to consume so I can be energized now from all it has to offer, the farming industry is awful and honestly cruel , hard to subscribe to that form of consumption. If having to eat flesh was all part of a balanced way to live in a harmonious way I would not see that being a issue and then meat may be part of what I would consider a good source of energy. Then again I donít like meat, I love chocolate cakes  and would be happy to just eat that for breakfast, lunch and dinner rolleyes I am on strict diet has you can see but boy oh boy itís worth it.  grin
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