Hey Casey,

How long have you been reading books regarding OBE/Astral Projection/UFO's etc...?

Honestly it just sounds like your expectations materialized into your dream about what you thought a spiritual healer/reader would do

Considering you just broke down crying straight away before anything happened(assuming that after what i just read)

Sounds like thats what you want to happen should you encounter such a person, or maybe that's what you think will happen based off previous stories of those experiences happening to others

I think the whole "broke down crying and apologizing" is the giveaway here

False awakenings are  my go to cues when i know i'm in that state of mind, it's easy to slip out of your body if your aware of what to do in such a situation.

The technicalities of projecting(or obe), having an out of body, body experience and dreaming is a complex topic to get into...

If i was you i would work from the base you have built and try walking out your room, or floating out of your roof, etc...

I wouldn't concern myself with the details yet, enjoy the experience and once you get bored start to look at the technicalities and try to find some validation

Interesting subject...

I've had an experience where i met some people who guided me inside their home and started speaking another language, for some reason i could understand it perfectly,
upon awaking i couldn't recall anything of what they said, rather their body language that suggested what they where saying

Is it possible?

I can only think of two possible situations...

Maybe overhearing of words in prior experiences(TV, Movies etc) were able to be unlocked when you were in that kind of state of mind

Or

The thought of knowing another language without actually speaking it (Possibly what i experienced it)

If someone could recite a foreign language and be able to validate it in waking reality... That would be some heavy validation right there.

I also once had a projection come up around my forehead of a document that he looked like he was going to burn he acted like he was my next door neighbour for a few weeks training me with some sort of mind battle of terminology, we shout boom at the end of our terms and it would make popping sounds in our mind he was very tricky with this random training sometimes making sense the other time using Latin to preach darkness to me, what i did was shout boom with my mind and his body on the projection would disperse in some sort of clear wave like a spirit, after i did that i got blasted with illuminational energy that created a huge vibration on my body and mind also creating three very visible blue dots infront of my forehead moving around in a strange motion, i could also see a vibration of blue colours above the sea when i ran out my flat I jumped for joy around nature thinking i was going to die, using all my might of light thinking any comment on this?

An all powerful being, someone who can bend energy, distort your mind/body connection.... burns a piece of paper? paper? Think about it...

Your in conflict with yourself, do less of this astral stuff and go outside more

Always consider that you can be wrong

*face palm*

All i have to say is... Always consider that you can be wrong

Yep, your cray 

"Though I have told him that they exist. But I have also told him that they are thoughtforms created by our own minds."

How can he conceive of such a complex concept?

The moment you enforced the idea that they are real, the seed was planted (As Xanth explained)... everything else is jibberish to a 7 year olds mind


You could start by sharing(make it up, make it fun etc) a story to him how there was a young boy who was experiencing the same situation and that he was able to beat
the demon by punching him in the face

Create that confidence for him, it will do him wonders.

Hi all,

Some words to consider

If you are able to create any experience/emotion in a lucid state, then is it safe to assume that even the most intricate experience (E.g Having the sensation of slipping out of your body, being visited by other lifeforms, creating subjective validation) is a predetermined notion?

Objectively we are limited to laws of the universe, like wise we are limited subjectively to what we know(objectively)

So how can we define having an Out of Body experience considering above?

Doesn't it make sense to call it a Out of Body, Body experience instead?

Your thoughts are welcome

I attempted to visit Saturn once. I found myself standing on top of the particles of ice and rock that make up its rings. I could actually step from particle to particle, rather gracefully, without the threat of falling off and floating away. It was a very majestic experience, however, the boundlessness of the surrounding space scared the crap out of me.

The only 'problem'(Not to sound negative) i have with this is that i would assume you had some sort of conception of what Saturn was before you experienced it metaphysically right?  The way you described how the particles of ice and rock that make up the rings seems like hearsay evidence.

Yes it has been scientifically observed to be true(Assuming your right, i don't know what makes up the rings), but have you yourself experienced what it is really like in this objective reality we live in?

Because you don't get trapped into the illusion when you think you may know it all

Seems much more simplistic then what others have suggested

You came across information that we are all one, and while reading such information you made a connection with the concept that we are one - and this led you to manifest this while in sleep paralysis

You acknowledge that we are one (shown by your experience and how you have conveyed the information to us, i.e Moving 1:1), the only problem is you feel uncomfortable about it

If you don't like the concept then find alternative theories to ease your mind, or better yet - let time heal your worries, you will make peace with it sooner or later 

AAAAAAAA , quit getting so defensive, Szaxx  is trying to help you.

You should adopt the beginner mind set at all times, and not get wound up on 'how far have you gone' or 'how experienced are you'

All that is just noise, my take on the discussion at hand is that there is no 'how far' or how 'experienced', these ideas are a manifestation
of human observation, experiences should be taken with a grain of sand, and if beneficial - shared with one another to open up perceptions
of those who have not thought to experience such sensations.

Instead of shutting me down, provide an argument to why that is so dumb

My argument is as follows;

Physical medication doesn't help mental problems

Your up

I keep seeing a re-occurring theme of people experiencing things that others have mentioned before, the typical "Earth is sick", "Where the dead walk around but don't know there dead"

How many times have we heard that before?

You don't 'relax' into Sleep Paralysis, your mind wakes up while your body is asleep.

Try waking up a few hours earlier then after a few days go back to the normal time, you should find yourself repeating the pattern of waking up at a certain time even though your body is still asleep.

Sleep Paralysis isn't comfortable or enjoyable, it's just a good indication of how awake your mind is whilst your body is asleep.

Stop taking physical drugs for mental problems for one, unless your succumbing to the fact that your physical make up determines your personality.

Learn to love yourself, that's it... how do you expect others to love you if you can't do it yourself?

Every time i try to go into 'space' from the ground, i either get scared or my vision blacks out before i can reach whatever is out there

I remember one memorable experience where i was on an open grass field and there was this rope dangling down from the sky, i climbed up then i poo'd myself  a little then it went away.

What is with your signature you weirdo?

Hi guys!

I am not sure if this is against the rules but i don't see how it can be considering that i am not selling anything - just simply extending an invitation to a new community i have formed

The website is called wethinktoomuch

The reasoning behind making this website is to make it obvious for what we all do - think too much!

The only down side to this is that no one (very few) people document this - so why not make a community where people can discuss there own life's and there own perspectives and have the opportunity to see different perspectives to peoples success in any given field

Learning anything is an amazing experience and process - and learning is best done when you are teaching yourself - learning from your mistakes. Astral pulse has been a good tool for me to develop my OBE/Astral experience. Lots of websites i come across seem to share the same information - but there are lots of unspoken words that have not been on the internet and that is self taught people who develop skill by learning from there own experiences, failing and learning and repeating that cycle till they achieve there own goal

The idea behind this website is that we are all just as smart as each-other - some don't know this yet. This website will give people a chance to explore the minds of others will tackling certain issues themselves or even discussing random matters that they are interested in and want to gain further knowledge of.

The website is a forum based community and is mainly targeted to young individuals (They seem to be having the most influence over society's actions) that being said - Everyone is welcome as age is only a number and does not determine who you are as a person

Sections include:
While its happening
Visuals thread
Express thread
Astral/Lucid/Dreams
Conspiracy theories
School
Work
Social conditioning
Drugs General
Nutrition

I would love for people to come visit the forum and share insights they have learned themselves

There are many ways to get from point A to point B. Some do it differently to others but if you still end up where you want to be then you have succeeded. Helping and guiding people to be there own successor in life is what this is all about

If this has interested you, you may visit the forum at www.wethinktoomuch.com (Click Register to make an account then you may post)

I also have made a facebook page over at www.facebook.com/wethinktoomuch


Hope to talk with you soon

Thank you

Why is it a shame?

You do realize that individuals require certain items (money) in order to survive in this physical reality, right?
I see absolutely no problem in attempting to survive here by sharing that which has taken almost a lifetime for David to accumulate.

Anyway, most of what the Astral Pulse offers is free.  You technically don't ever have to pay a dime to learn how to do astral projection... you even have access to personal assistance through the forums here with many very experienced projectors willing to give their time for free, including David.

I, for one, would absolutely LOVE to be able to turn this into something I could do to survive on.  I don't exactly LOVE the job I have in order to earn enough money to live... and to do something like teaching Astral Projection would simply amazing. 

Good point

Old Soul , seems like you so close!

Try waking up earlier in the morning and staying up for 30mins or so then heading back to bed.. then next time you hit SP don't wuss out! 

I was in the same position! I would get to the point of no return numerous times but i would always come back because of being scared/all being to much for me

Think of it as your getting better every time!

Stookie sounds like a good holiday!! hahaha