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51  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Has anyone encountered a BST where the inhabitants are all asleep? on: May 10, 2014, 07:21:21
Also I have read some crazy NDE's. Honestly I think the best NDE's are the ones where they don't remember anything from this life here on earth thus they are free from biased beliefs. The two I know of right now that are like that are Eben Alexander which was a neurosurgeon. And then there was Nanci Danison. Check those out they are the best IMO. I've read Eben's book and I saw of video of Nanci Danison. You have to be very careful about taking details to seriously in these realms. IMO NDEs aren't the best from of knowledge about the afterlife realms since they don't have enough time to gain the discernment needed about such spiritual realms. Thus IMO astral projectors are the best source of knowledge about the afterlife, not NDE's, that is generally speaking.

Peace.
52  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Has anyone encountered a BST where the inhabitants are all asleep? on: May 10, 2014, 07:01:51
It was likely her belief and what she expected that created this scenario. Your beliefs are often played back to you if you don't gain discernment in the spiritual realms.

Peace.
53  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: How did you let go of the past? on: May 09, 2014, 10:21:57
Psychedelics have been known to not take away the memory of some negative past experiences but to take away the emotional pull that they use to have. So it's no longer an internal problem. It just becomes a neutral memory. That is what Alexander Shulgin wife Ann Shulgin and psychologist learned about these marvelous substances before they were made illegal, and they reported huge successes in the beginning using certain psychedelics until they were banned.

She compared becoming free from a past haunting experience that some people have like the story of Beauty And The Beast. Inside of us when we gain a negative experience the beast is created/empowered inside of us, but if we open up to this part of ourselves that we ignore, and learn to love the beast unconditionally then the beast transforms into a price. Learning to love the beast can take time. They use to get breakthroughs in as little as one session with some molecules I don't even want to mention right now. And you are made whole again. So my only thought is that if you want to do this without psychedelics, you have to learn to love the beast within. We all have it to some degree. Psychedelic psychotherapy just makes it possible to open that part of ourselves up faster IMO. I think it can been done without psychedelics, but it takes much longer IMO.

Here it is. There is an audio of her out there saying this. I am pretty sure this is the article.

Ann Shulgin Psychedelic Psychotherapy and the Shadow
www.matrixmasters.net/podcasts/TRANSCRIPTS/AnnShulgin-TheShadow1.html

This is not necessarily an endorsement of any illegal substances, but rather showing you the view that psychedelic psychotherapists have taken and what they learned has worked. In other words this is just to help bring some comprehension on what likely goes on when we get rid of negative past experiences. And IMO this can quite possibility be translated into something practical for yourself.

Peace.
54  The Astral Library / Welcome to Writers Corner! / Re: Members Music! on: May 08, 2014, 09:23:44
Well it's open topic my friend! Go ahead and post. I believe our creativity is a higher form of consciousness so art and music of any subject matter sits comfortably with most of the topics discussed on this site.

And furthermore if I want to hear your track then someone else might too.
I am sorry Paul but the songs got deleted on my computer on accident since I had to do a hard drive reformat. I think my songs were for a niche group. It was techno sounding, have no idea if you like techno. Don't worry I also like many other music genres. I even had two guitars and two violins, never got good at them though.

Peace.
55  The Astral Library / Welcome to Writers Corner! / Re: Members Music! on: May 04, 2014, 06:39:11
Hi all.
Well there are user pics and user art. How about user music. I have some art I will share but for the mo see link below one of my tracks.

Others making music please share.smiley

https://m.soundcloud.com/pauldcruz/the-wanderers
Hey great idea Paul, I use to make music back in the day. Though it's stuff I probably wouldn't want to post here. But I can imagine that if I was into music now it would be stuff I would want to post here.

Peace.
56  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Traditions, ideals, and norms of men. on: May 03, 2014, 02:46:17
Dawkins makes my hair stand on end. I cannot even watch his videos anymore.  sad
I admit that I have lost some respect for Dawkins ever since he worked to ban consciousness talks at TEDx.
57  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Traditions, ideals, and norms of men. on: May 02, 2014, 03:18:51
Funny thing I remember talking to my brothers friend a Rock 'n' Roll type of guy that plays in a band and he's telling me about this friend that said that could astral project. LOL no kidding. Sometimes you might be surprised who is in the know but more often than not your going to get the evil eye. LOL
58  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Traditions, ideals, and norms of men. on: May 02, 2014, 02:53:44
In remembering the a video titled "Peter Singer - The Genius of Darwin: The Uncut Interviews - Richard Dawkins" I just kept on thinking about Petter Singers comment. What it was was that Singer said when the Greeks first came over here they asked the Indians, or at least a certain tribe of Indians what they did with their dead. And they said we eat them. (I guess they were really utilitarian. Meaning they didn't want to waste the body. As we know they used all the bones and flesh of animals that they killed. Besides they believed the soul moved on anyway I am sure, unlike the Greeks.) And so the Greeks were horrified at what the Indians did that with their loved ones bodies. So then the Indians asked the Greeks what they did their dead. and they said they burned their bodies. And so the Indians were horrified that they would do such a thing, and I guess waste their bodies like that. LOL The moral that we can all gain from this I think is that our cultures, traditions and societies all have these ideals that and barriers to what they think has to be true and not, but that doesn't make it necessarily so. And what may be a good idea in one culture, may be a bad idea in another. So what makes one way better than another? That depends, but I tend to side toward utilitarianism while helping the poor. It's just very practical. Though their may be a line to draw. I also side on Humanism. This is not meant to be a conversation about Utilitarianism or humanism. Just to get you thinking about what ideals, traditions, and norms you think are so important. Though I know a lot of you guys here at this forum have already broken many of those norms and broken the barriers of illusion that come from society. Let's not forgot what caused our growth from the beginning.

BTW if you want to see the video by Singer and Richard Dawkins it's here. I am not a particular fan of Dawkins BTW. Though I think he still adds value to the world. The Greek Indian part is at 22:40 I think it is.

Peter Singer - The Genius of Darwin: The Uncut Interviews - Richard Dawkins
http://youtu.be/GYYNY2oKVWU

Peace
59  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Tom Campbell, Free Will & The Afterlife on: April 28, 2014, 09:26:05
It looks like LoLmart is coming across a related truth I thought of on my own awhile back. Which is if God always makes the right decisions, or for that matter any being, and he always calculates the right judgment. Then is he robotic with no true free will, since all of his judgments can be calculated and reasoned out? So the question becomes, well what is free will exactly exactly?  huh
60  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Welcome New Moderator Deepspace!! on: April 28, 2014, 09:05:52
Good for you deepspace. I actually noticed that in the moderators list earlier. And I was thinking "deepspace a moderator? that must be new."
61  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Heads up. Tom Campbell might do an AMA soon. on: April 26, 2014, 10:51:04
Now that's funny. smiley
I was talking about some PM's we were exchanging, but I guess you could relate it to that old thread. That one old thread that we all know about, but we are all afraid to bring back up. LOL cheesy
62  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Heads up. Tom Campbell might do an AMA soon. on: April 26, 2014, 09:02:55
He's not afraid to answer questions.  Love the guy.  Smiley
Yeah me too Xanth I love questions being answered, don't we all. LOL  cheesy  Inside joke.
63  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you think this forum is carefully watched by intelligence agencies? on: April 26, 2014, 09:00:32
No one was discounting the importance placed on cold fusion and the energy revolution that would surely follow. Nor does anyone think that cold fusion involves icebergs. Xanth just happened to make a funny joke in relation to it and the original topic. smiley
Great so if I try to make a joke, I'm sarcastic, if Xanth makes a joke he's funny. Don't take that seriously I was referring to the old thread too.  smiley
64  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you think this forum is carefully watched by intelligence agencies? on: April 26, 2014, 07:39:18
I'll have the last laugh as I actually know what I'm talking about. I've followed and studied LENR for years now. BTW it has nothing to do with making things cold.

60 Minutes Cold Fusion is Hot Again
http://vimeo.com/4263614

65  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you think this forum is carefully watched by intelligence agencies? on: April 26, 2014, 05:47:17
I don't think they are likely watching this forum, but I bet they are watching what is going on with super cheap energy. Like the work of Andrea Rossi. I've heard of people in big places watching what's going on here, some in energy production, and other scientists. Some don't want to come out at all in favor of it for fear of being ridiculed or wrong, while others are just carefully reporting on what is going on.

Any scientist or energy expert will tell you that if cold fusion better known as LENR is real that we will be moving into a new area of wealth and abundance. I will be posting about this in a few months once Andrea Rossi's E-cat report comes out. It's going to shake the energy industries and others that will be effected but we the people as a whole will come out better for it in the coming decades.

Very few know about this yet it's been followed and reported by curious often smart people like myself and a few in the energy sector, scientists and probably government. If astral projection is real it won't pose and overnight overhaul of very much of anything. But if cold fusion/LENR is real it will shake the energy and political powers in the coming years.

Peace.
66  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: How do you fall asleep? on: April 26, 2014, 01:15:17
Oh yeah, and I also sometimes will have to let the feeling of sleep relax the body and inside of my head to help drift off once I've been laying down for a while. That can help.
67  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Astral log on: April 25, 2014, 11:21:06
Speaking from some experience. I would say it's fine as long as your pretty stable mentally. If your not stable then no I wouldn't do it.

Peace.
68  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: How do you fall asleep? on: April 25, 2014, 09:24:04
I take my medication and then I pass out. Hahaha No seriously I just get sleepy and let it happen. Though when I was working night shift I was having sleeping problems, so out of desperation I found a trick that helped. I would kind of push my eyes upward. Not actually putting my eye upward, but kind of straining to do that and this would help trigger the chemicals needed to fall asleep. The more I did it the better I got at doing it.
69  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Experiences leading to never AP'ing again on: April 20, 2014, 22:17:38
I think their decision is based on more of a subconscious level though. Something beyond their conscious control.
I have to agree with lionheart.
70  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Do medications and medicines interfere with astral projection? on: April 18, 2014, 11:04:38
Sorry.  I meant if you go to the home page, the Bedeekin method is under the heading, Astral consciousness.  But looks like you already found it anyway.

Another cool thing about this method is you'll know if it's going to work for you probably within the first few min. of your attempt.  Your visual field (blackness behind your eyelids) will become dynamic and have depth.  Almost sort of a tunnel effect.  When you see that, you know it's going to happen as long as you stay still and keep a quiet mind.  Back when I was doing this method (inadvertently --I hit upon that sleep schedule by accident) I was projecting just about every night.  Always consciously.  Wide awake conscious, too.  No grogginess.  Now that my schedule has changed, I only project once or twice a week.  So much harder for me now.  I should really get back to it.  Anyway, I know you have the med. issues, but best of luck if you try it and with your meditation!
Thaks soarin yesh I'll defineatly keep this method in mind. And good luck with your astral practice it sounds like your a natural almost.

Peace.
71  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Looking to move to another country to learn about Astral Projection,where to go? on: April 17, 2014, 08:32:49
P.S. I will be going to a 1 week trip to India and see what it's like over there. Any recommendations?
Make sure you have a backup plan if you get robbed, or any other number of things that can go wrong on a trip to a foreign country.

Good luck.
72  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Do medications and medicines interfere with astral projection? on: April 17, 2014, 08:24:13
Hey plasma.  I don't have the answers to your questions, but I just had the thought to ask you if you've tried the Bedeekin method under Astral Consciousness?  It's the same way I did it from the beginning. I didn't even know what AP was when it happened to me.  I had set up the conditions for projection by accident, and when it happened I was totally shocked.  The reason I love this method is because you hardly even have to try. (As I said above, I didn't try at all.)  The process initiates itself and if you just lay still with a quiet mind, it'll just suck you right out.  I literally had to fight NOT to project on many occasions because it just kept sucking me out night after night and it was scaring me that I seemed to have no choice in the matter.  I know everyone's different and it might not work for you the same as for me, but a lot of other people besides me swear by this method.  If you haven't tried it already, give it a read.  Here's the idea.  Get up early, nap at 7 or 8 pm for an hour and 1/2--no more, you don't want to dream. (you must be tired for the nap and do not project at the nap)  Then go to bed around 2 hrs. after you wake up from your nap and consciously project.  See the thread for details.  Smiley

I only read a little bit about Bedeekin method the other day. Just checked there is nothing about "astral consciouses" in it. It sounds like it probably won't work, since I have to take my medicines to sleep. I'm talking right now with Xan in depth about this through PMing, and so far he is saying that should just focus on meditation, which I am good at. The Bedeekin method does seem like a good method. Thanks for your suggestion soarin.
73  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Do medications and medicines interfere with astral projection? on: April 16, 2014, 02:45:58
I knew I should have made my post smaller.
74  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: no common sense on: April 16, 2014, 02:42:28
I use to be kind of like you bear, we all deal with this type of stuff in one way or another. Don't beat yourself up. If you were ever abused or beaten or even just had corporeal punishment as a kid then that might have something to do with it, and this effect can even be exaggerated in kids with mental hindrances. IDK if that describes you at all, but we all deal with similar things. So like lionheart said go and list some of your qualities and focus on those more.

Am a little weird too, but am also very unique, and smart in my own way.

Good luck.
75  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Has anybody visited the sun? on: April 15, 2014, 23:31:53
dam I can't wait until I learn how to project. lol
I remember Marilynn Hughes talking about going into other dimensions by going into the sun. When I told them here about that they said if you believe it. LOL I bet that is more common to go into higher dimensions in the upper levels though. She use to talk about being out of body for days at a time. Quite a women. Though she does seem to get into some of the mystical stuff.

Peace.
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