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51  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you listen to opposing political views? on: June 03, 2017, 03:26:14
Nope.  Wink
I see, you just don't want to get into intellectual conversations. I see how you are.  tongue
52  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I thought I was Jesus!! on: June 03, 2017, 03:21:47
I can tell you that I have had personal experience with Jesus in physical reality. It was not about being saved (a common belief) ... It was not imagined (e.g., someone about 20 feet from me had a similar experience with him) ... I was not out of body (e.g., I had my arms around each person beside me and never felt this contact disappear during the experience of about 10 minutes). He was hovering about 4 feet off the ground (as many mediums see the non-physical) in a glowing etheric body surrounded by golden white light. I will not go into further details about my own experience (a very long post). But I have provided enough detail to assure you (and many others peaking in here) that it was a real "physical" experience. And, this was not my first non-physical experience, but probably the most shocking until my 20's.
Wow Subtle Traveler, I didn't know that you saw Jesus. That must have been a great experience for you. I grew up christian and so I had a lot of beliefs and thoughts about Jesus as a kid and growing up, so it's great to meet someone on the forum that has had direct contact with him. I would love to hear your full story and I am sure others would too, perhaps you can share it with us. Personally I expanded my knowledge of Jesus past the bible through reading Howard Storms NDE book. Anyway thanks for sharing that.
53  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you listen to opposing political views? on: June 02, 2017, 18:08:52
Preach... like a priest preaching...

Like what I do here!   evil Wink
I wouldn't listen to me either.
OK I think you get what I'm saying now. Perhaps you now see our talks about psychedelics in the past in a different light.  wink
54  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you find that people cant accept that your a astral projector on: June 02, 2017, 14:13:50
Annnnnnnnnd you lost it.  Wink  hehe
You know what I mean.  grin wink
55  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you listen to opposing political views? on: June 02, 2017, 14:07:29
Ego is when they're "preaching" perspective.
Truth is when they're "discussing" perspective.

It's actually EXTREMELY easy to tell the difference.
How would you define preach? Because I don't see anything inherently egotistical about teaching a topic passionately or public speaking.
56  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I thought I was Jesus!! on: June 01, 2017, 20:32:06
I always felt I was a god.

Funny when I found out... I WAS!  Smiley
Good one. Some people have a real problem understanding this concept that we are God I've found.
57  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you find that people cant accept that your a astral projector on: June 01, 2017, 20:28:17
I see the traces of beginning to understand in your words, Plasma.  Smiley
LOL perhaps I should define it further. Which is head in this sense would mean that all thoughts of astral projection or dreams would have originated causes in this physical world or ones own mind, and not in some other place outside the scientific understanding. Meaning if a thought can't be measured with a physical instrument then it never happened and never happened outside of ones head where it can't be measured. Now of course I know that thoughts can originate outside of the head, but of course we are talking about my brother here.
58  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you listen to opposing political views? on: June 01, 2017, 20:15:09
Political, no I never go out of my way to listen to politicians. There are plenty of other places to encounter lies, deceit and slander. My political views fall in line with this, so just don't give me any power.

Religious views, I have listened to many different views. There are plenty of other places to encounter lies, deceit and exploitation. I have no time for these, only the few peaceful religions.

What I enjoy listening to most, is educated atheists debating with religious people i.e Stephen Fry and Ricky Gervais. I enjoy the comedy aspect of it, but also the reasoning behind their arguments. Because if any god is eternal love & good, they would never allow the suffering that they have. 

I guess I am structuring my beliefs around that.

It is always good to listen to the views of others, I guess it just depends on what you believe to be important.
I respect the idea that people don't want to deal with politics. I use to be that way too, but I learned to look past the politicians and try to understand economic/political theories and what is ideal rather than praising a particular politician. Thanks for chiming in.

I'll listen to any opposing view as long as it's presented in such a way that isn't trying to force-feed it to me.
Anything logical deserves attention.  But if you're telling me something to satiate your own ego, then no.  That's just wasting MY time.
Yeah I'm glad to hear that you listen out opposing views Xanth, and I do understand that nobody wants to feel like they're having someone else's truth being shoved down their throat. But I don't really get it when people talk about ego like this. One persons truth could be another persons ego is it not? Christians could say that astral projectors are satisfying their ego desire to play God by taking control of spiritual matters that only God should be in control of. So what makes it ego and what makes it truth? Doesn't ego run to the very core of who we are? If we are in samsara then we have ego don't we? I actually just researched this as I was a bit confused, and as it turns out it's hard to define ego. Because it's a huge collection of beliefs that are grounded in "I" and "me." Ego can change and even be contradictory and I doubt that non-ego can be inherently grounded in objective truth. That is why enlightened people didn't discover science many moons ago. What I took away from it is that it's best to talk in terms like personal belief/truth. And in this case talk about being sensitive to others emotions and feelings because triggering them could backfire. But yeah I do get that nobody wants to feel like they're being force-feed someone else's truth.

59  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I thought I was Jesus!! on: June 01, 2017, 06:12:33
There was a few times I felt like I was an incarnation of a very important biblical figure like King David from the bible. Now I realize there is no way to really know for sure right now. So I embrace my unique time here and now in this life. Life is too short to be fantasizing about stuff like that. I'd as well be fantasizing that I was once Cleopatra. LOL
60  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Do you listen to opposing political views? on: June 01, 2017, 06:03:17
I don't want to get into politics per se, but I take great pride in the fact that I can and have changed my belief systems based on new information and I listen to different political and religious views.

I don't really find senators or presidents persuasive in arguing and debate, they don't really hold much sway for me politically, but I do love to hear the critics, I love to hear big picture arguments. I've learned so much listening to the critics on both sides. Host Dave Rubin is great at doing this, and it's so rare and valuable IMO.

This not only holds true for politics but also religion. I can listen and enjoy atheist Richard Dawkins one minute then enjoy Hindu Deepak Chopra the next. I can listen to conservatives Ben Shapiro and troll Milo Yiannopoulos one minute then listen to socialist Richard D. Wolff the next along with feminist Laci Green the next. I must say the only thing I refuse to seriously consider at this point is Islam and feminists that don't debate. But I do listen to alternative views of Islam like sufism for Islam.

Some people might think this is wishy washy way of thinking, and that might be true if I didn't have a relatively stable opinion, but on the contrary I've learned to find the middle ground. Also it makes my belief system much more complex and robust because if some piece gets taken out, I can take another route very quickly. I become like a branch that bends with the wind and doesn't break when a little hardship comes along.

I know in the past you's have flamed me for not getting what you want me to get. But that was only because of the format it was presented in.  grin

Do you listen to opposing views politically, spiritually or non-spiritually?

I encourage you to embrace radical open your mindedness whenever possible through dialog, debate, and listening.
61  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you find that people cant accept that your a astral projector on: May 29, 2017, 17:31:55
But it is *all in your head*.
That doesn't make it less real.

This physical reality is also all in your head.
We can play the game of semantics here but it's blows down to how do you define head. By head do we mean mind, or the physical brain, subjective reality, or however one defines it. By head here I mean fully 100 percent subjective experience, all in the mind and brain, like a dream that has no connection to spirit or anything outside of ones own subjective thoughts.
62  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Is there racists in the astral? on: May 27, 2017, 17:37:13
I guess the only thing I can add in here is my own belief as none of us really know.

I have been working with a belief which I wish to explore over time, it is that the consciousness is me, but I am not the consciousness. So in a way I am you and you are me, but at the same time we are still ourselves.

So in that respect, I believe that there can be individual prejudices in the astral. Because while we are all part of the consciousness, we are not the same. Which leads me to believe that the beings we see in the astral could also be separate parts of the consciousness, just as we are.
Thanks for chiming in. And I agree that we are consciousness but consciousness isn't necessarily us.
63  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Seeing movement in the form of small marbles?? on: May 20, 2017, 15:21:14
I got bumped on my back when I was a kid two times in a row at night by an orb while laying down. Scared the crap out of me and I went crying to my mom and dad. I was about 10 years old.
64  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Harry Styles - Sign of the Times on: May 20, 2017, 15:14:20
Yeah everyone has their own songs they think are spiritual. Personally I think certain types of electronic dance music and trance is very spiritual. It's so captivating, certain types of melodies, cords, and words elicit certain types of emotions and memories.  

Here is a similar post I did a while back.

Astral projectors what songs remind you of the astral and why?
65  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Lucid Dreaming meet up in VR on: May 20, 2017, 14:55:15
The second link is broken.  sad
66  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Automatic thoughts on: May 20, 2017, 14:53:41
Everyone here saying to go seek professional help. I disagree. A psychiatrist, psychologist or any other type of a doctor will not understand what is going on and most likely diagnose you with schizophrenia. This is NOT a mental condition and it is NOT only in your head.
Medical professionals may not be able to fully understand it, but medications still work for these types of things. Other than that I'm glad you found something that worked for you.
67  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do you find that people cant accept that your a astral projector on: May 20, 2017, 14:35:50
Only one person in my whole family thinks astral projection is all in your head. Everyone else thinks it's probably real but they aren't interested in it really though either.
68  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Human intelligence (IQ) ... from the mind (soul), from the brain (genes)? on: May 11, 2017, 02:45:48
I believe human intelligence is a characteristic of the mind, it stays with the soul, and its development is one of the important goals in each incarnation.

From what I've read we are born with an IQ that doesn't suffer major fluctuations over one's life, under normal health circumstances.

On the other hand I've watched a couple of documentaries, that presented cases when individuals that suffered major traumas acquired new and exceptional gifts in disciplines as mathematics, painting, music, for which they didn't show even some interest before.

Is the brain only a limiting factor of our soul's intelligence, or more?

Yes I believe it can be. That is likely in part why we must reincarnate to evolve our souls. Though from what I understand from many sources is that your intelligence in the afterlife is much higher than what it is here on earth. But there is almost always room for improvement.

Yes I agree with everything you said here.

I've noticed behavioural characteristics in some individuals that are similar to those of certain relatives from previous generations, not only parents, but aunts and uncles, grandparents, or further.

Does the genetical inheritance play a role in the intelligence of an individual? Which and how?
I think you mean genetic inheritance here. This is something I learned about in college quite a bit. I've taken psychology classes and from what I've learned there is both a strong genetic and environmental factors that influence intelligence. So, yes genetics play a huge role. But also environmental influences are a much bigger contributor to intelligence than what a lot of people realize. This comes down to the old nature versus nurture debate. Most people these days though have come to the realization that both nature and nurture play a role here. Their just debating the degree to which nature versus nurture matter. Nobody is saying genetics is the only player here, or environment and nurture is everything.

Here are some of the things you can do to increase your children's intelligence to help them beat the odds. I'll give you some advice from my recent child development and child psychology class.

Talk to them a lot. Read to them a lot. Open ended play is very critical for children. Children learn language before they start talking. So that is why it's vital to talk to children that can't talk yet. There are many connections in their brain that needs to get wired up, and the paths that are stimulated the most while young and growing up lead to real boosts in their intelligence. Also giving proper praise for a job well done is important. So instead of saying "wow your so smart." Instead say "wow you must have worked really hard to do that." The first saying makes them think their abilities are set in stone. But if you praise effort and hard work then they realize that they can shape their learning and success by using effort and hard work. Also it's very important to limit children's screen time especially when their young, including TV, phones, and computers. Constant use of the devices for a developing brain is very harmful. Giving them a wide variety of challenging activities as they grow is important. I know I didn't have to type all that I just wish more people knew about it. Wink

And I agree with Lumanza on his take with this.
Hope that helps.
69  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The answer to life on: May 08, 2017, 00:28:54
Looks like nobody else has replied yet. OK I add that to this thread for ya if you still want some input. I agree with a lot of what your saying, but then I read the part where you say "fear creates love." That isn't exactly true. Fear just like pain acts as guideline to help nudge us back to love and harmony. It would be like when your on the road and there is a sign saying your going in the wrong direction. That sign would be fear or pain. But it's up to us to get back on track. So it's only by identifying our mistakes through pain and fear that we can learn and identify the cause and thus adjust to create love and harmony. Unfortunately not everyone learns to identify the cause of their suffering and pain because they are misguided by bad ideologies, like ISIS. If we did turn fear into love with a high enough turn over rate then there would be no war in the world. But I do agree love will eventually win out in the end no matter what because when light shines ,darkness has no power over it. So really it's just a matter of the universe evolving enough. Those are my further thoughts on what your saying. Hope that helps.
70  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The answer to life on: May 04, 2017, 19:15:49
Yeah I believe in bearable hells.
Depends on how deep one goes into the bad lands. Some are bearable while the really hard to get to places that are red pill to the very few that ever make it there and come back to tell about it. Here read it yourself.;msg321058#msg321058

Mind you in a PM Szaxx told me he was guided by spirit guides into this place, one of them being spirit with wings, call it an angel if you will. He said that he couldn't get there himself and that he was only able to get there with the help of his spirit guides.

Howard Storm also for instance during an NDE in the astral was duped into following some evil beings deep into a dark place where they tormented him. Eventually an ascended master had to get him out of that wicked place. He said that the pain there is many times worse than anything that could be experienced here on earth. So you have the choice you can take the red pill or the blue pill. You can take the red pill and research yourself or take the blue pill and disregard what I said. The choice is yours. There is no right or wrong answer. Sometimes I wish I never knew the stuff that I know, while other times I am glad that I know it so that I am never duped and conned into following a being of darkness into such an evil place like Howard Storm did.
71  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The answer to life on: May 04, 2017, 18:26:06
I've always wanted the answer to life. I think I found it, it's very simple. I didn't find it till like a year or two ago. Basically the universe is all about thoughts. We all came from nothing. Nothingness is a state of being. Nothingness being a state of being, meant it created feelings for us to experience. One feeling lead to another till eventually the feeling of love took over everything. Basically our souls create feelings and the strongest feeling wins out, that is love. That's why hell can't exist. Because to feel pain, is to feel feelings. The feeling of love always beats out the feeling of fear. That's why we only have bearable pain. Everything in the universe happens because of love. Love is naturally stronger than any force in the universe. That's why it's impossible to cease to exist.

So time comes into play. After you die, love will take over and put you where you should be. These soul defining experiences will happen. So with due time, everybody gets to heaven. Each soul craves different experiences. Basically love has the universe set to evolve. The universe starts out simple because that's what our souls crave. Our souls crave for the universe to evolve. The universe with time gets newer fears to overcome. Fear creates love. To fear you have to have feelings, the feeling of love wins every time. So our universe will overcome fears to push the universe forwards. The love that exists was created by fears of infinite proportions.

What you guys think?
My only input here is that hell does exist. But not the christian or Muslim hell. It's more like a Buddhist hell than a Christian hell. And it doesn't last forever from what I understand. Mind you it's extremely hard to get there through astral projection. Szaxx (a moderator here) as been there a few times but most astral projectors have never experienced any hellish place. Some astral projectors including Szaxx don't call it hell, they call it the "bad lands." I know about this because I use to think I was going to hell. So I researched it a lot. From what Szaxx says the beings that are there are of their own kind. Meaning humans don't have anything in common with such beings and wouldn't fit in there or go to such places easily at all.

If you really want to learn more about it. Read the book "My Descent into Death by Howard Storm." But I wouldn't worry about it. I use to worry about it all the time and I can tell you that I've mostly lost my fear of hell or the bad lands though learning about astral projection and the things Szaxx told me about the bad lands.

Other than that I generally agree with your findings like love will always win in the end.

Oh and as far as thoughts you should read Frank Kepple's article where you can experience being a sound, or a day of the week. It's a very abstract place to be, a place where thoughts manifest quickly.

The Frank Kepple Resource
72  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What are the most important values to live by to have a good reincarnation? on: May 03, 2017, 03:16:02
Yeah it's simple and straight forward. Kind of like "be the best version of yourself."  smiley
73  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What are the most important values to live by to have a good reincarnation? on: May 02, 2017, 19:57:07
One word, "Death". Look up the way they prepare for death and it's suffering. They call it "Transitioning" for a reason and they don't see that as a bad thing either. It's part of their everlasting evolution!
Are you talking about death or dying meditation?
74  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What are the most important values to live by to have a good reincarnation? on: May 01, 2017, 23:18:50
The bad things in life make you stronger! They are a necessity in the growing and evolving process.
I can generally agree with that. All I am saying is that suffering is only needed enough to get us back to no minimal or no suffering. If you look at the Buddhas Noble Eightfold Path there is nothing in there that says that bad things or suffering is good and a part of the path. I'll tell you what if you can show me where the Buddha or a master of meditation actually accepts suffering or bad things as an end goal unto itself then I will gladly reconsider by doing more researching. No hard feelings man.
75  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What are the most important values to live by to have a good reincarnation? on: May 01, 2017, 21:54:44
Truthfully I believe our incarnations have nothing to do with Karma. It's all based on experiencing and what we learn from those experiences.

 I believe that ones that suffer the most are the "oldest souls" to be found. If you had a choice in your first incarnation, what would your life be like? Riches, fame, looks etc. Now go to your last incarnation, maybe it would be being poor in a 3rd world country, handicapped, diseased, etc. In the end though, those are all experiences and that's what grows consciousness itself.

 Plasma, it sounds like you want to live in some kind of "protective" bubble. But God/your higher self/guides allowed you to do those careless things because that's the way we learn. If there was no dark, we wouldn't know what light is. But we learn more from the darkness then we do the light. We normally take advantage of the light.

 While on the road I have come across many people that had major loss in their lives. One show I did in Nebraska, I had a friend that had lost his home to a devastating Tornado. The first few years was all stress and sadness for them.
 I talked to him 10 years later and their whole attitude had changed. The guy now said that if it wasn't for the Tornado destroying their lives, their lives wouldn't have improved like it was today. The man had a beautiful new home, new job and even a new wife. But now, he was at peace. From the chaos, came order. As it always does. That devastating Tornado forced the change that he was always fighting. But in the end, he looks at it in a whole different light.
I feel like I've already paid my dues and learned my lessons in suffering. I've already been in the shadow of death when I lost my health years ago and your right it created  peace and understanding in me. But it doesn't have to be that way. I very well could have taken the path of much less suffering and reached the same goal.

If being a poor baby in Africa is suppose to be at the end of the life cycle of a spirit then being a rat with 150 diseases in New York City is enlightenment. Something just doesn't add up there. And yet there does seem to be this eerie connection between suffering and enlightenment. Suffering is only a symptom of the lack something else (usually right knowledge, or attachment to things that cause suffering.) I don't believe that suffering is an end unto it self. Suffering is a path to nowhere. And it's only use is to get us back on course with no suffering. It's like a sign in the road to guide us. It's not our destination.

In fact I use to play victim in order to gain sympathy from God and Jesus. Because I thought that suffering was an end unto itself. I read about all the martyrs for Christianity and how they will get all these crowns and rewards in heaven, and so I couldn't help but to think suffering was an end unto itself. But I was wrong and I am still paying the consequences of this false mindset to this day (long story). It's our monkey mind/brain that creates the desire to suffer and it likely stems from feelings and thoughts of shame or inadequacy. This is not a high spiritual noble goal in and of itself. I am sure a highly advanced society has no need for abject suffering. Perhaps a little suffering would be required for optimal functioning, but not abject suffering.

The only connection between suffering and enlightenment is that suffering should create a bigger desire for enlightenment or help. The end path of suffering leads to the "bad lands," which is where Szaxx went to a few times. A place where almost nobody wants to be.

The only thing I can think of that would cause people to incarnate into the worst reincarnations would be unresolved feelings of guilt and other distorted beliefs.

The number one over arching theme seems that be that we need to learn from our mistakes. But and this can be accomplished with or without suffering depending on how much wisdom understanding and resources we have.


That reminds me of my own experiences. Every time there is something negative happening in my life, I now know to ask "Why did it happen and what is it that I need to change". Because I know there is a very good reason. And every single time, shortly after asking, I receive the answers in a form of a thought if you will. And when I dive deeper into the issues, I realize it's  because I'm procrastinating to do something important, I am afraid of certain changes and I don't take certain chances, etc. The moment I make that change, the negative situation disappears and things improve even more than they were prior.
This is why I think intent can't be everything. I've learned that staying in your comfort zone is one of the worst things one can do. It's only by pushing ourselves out of our comfort zone and going into uncharted territory that we can truly grow. Please correct me if I am wrong Xanth but when I think of intent being everything I think of people that stay in their comfort zone and never truly growing because they don't want to pop their comfort zone bubble, so they stay out of sync with reality. And some of them get by a long time like this just fine while others suffer because of staying in their comfort zone. And of those some change learn and grow to learn that intention isn't everything while others don't learn that intention is everything. Thoughts?
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