Well I think it really blows that Traynor's post is the last one in this thread so I'm posting.

I haven't had a controlled OBE and the two times I've gone OBE I was not using a technique, but I am certain that whatever I did can be replicated. The moment of slipping out is the big mystery for me. The closest I got to getting out consciously was when I first read JOTB by Monroe and I tried his technique for several nights then I had just nodded off and I woke up in the middle of the most intense vibrations I could ever imagine. It scared me beyond all words...And I'm sure that old fear has an effect on my ability to relax fully. I believe any one can do it and that if someone says only a few can then I say it's like trying to figure out how to ride a bicycle by reading a book about it, rather than being able to watch it and have someone show you how its done. Just because it is a tedious process doesn't mean you should give up unless you want to. I know plenty of people who have taught themselves to do this and I know some who do it naturally and are totally freaked out by it.

Just my two cents because I hated for this thread to end on a downer-- No offense intended, Traynor and I do agree with those who say if you are not ready it will not be given to you, at least not in a meaningful fashion, but I don't think it has to be a conscious need to learn that governs the process.

Yours,
Beau

http://www.the3rdi.co.uk/lifestyle/mind/theoryofeverything.html

This is the best quick overview of My Big TOE by Thomas Campbell that I have found. If you want a quick peek before deciding to buy you might want to take a look. It has made many other works much more accessible to my thinking process. I highly recommend it.

yours,
Beau

I read the 11 page thread and really loved it. I ordered Wave 1 today. I have used Going Home for awhile but I have heard that it was tinkered with because it was "too effective". Needless to say I was bummed out when I heard that since I had already made the purchase. I had two interesting moments while using Going Home cut 7 where I could hear my physical body breathing in different rhythm than my...uh, well, consciousness. It was pretty neat but I couldn't get any further with it.

Thanks so much for posting this and So much thanks to Frank for all his patience and kindness to make his techniques and understanding known here.

yours,
Beau