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76  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Trapped inside my body? on: November 25, 2020, 16:57:43
Congratulations on your first OBE!

Basically my whole experience was 2-3 minutes standing up near my bed, blown out of my mind, just looking and getting used to that feeling because man I'm gonna need to...
Yeah, it's quite a trip seeing your physical self from the NP for the first time  grin

I look forward to explore this new world and now that I took my first steps into it the rest is downhill, so I've learned.
I don't want to discourage you in any way, but that has not been my experience. Can remember the first time it happened for me like it was yesterday, remember thinking how easy it was and being all excited about finally knowing how to do it, boy was I wrong. But hey maybe your a natural at it, best of luck "out there"  smiley
77  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: November 25, 2020, 09:49:08
Thanks Nameless!

Definitely one of my favorites so far.  smiley
78  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Visualization on: November 24, 2020, 15:29:47
Glad you like it  cool What I really like about that channel is that contrary to other videos/documentaries on YT, the background track is really chill and not too loud, most others seems to have this loud dramatic Hollywood type soundtrack.
79  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Hypnagogic imagery. on: November 24, 2020, 14:53:54
It can be! The first time I experienced it I thought it was some kind of bizarre fear test. But then i soon saw that it seemed to be some kind of intermediary between here and there. So, now, I just see it through.
 Yes, it can definitely strain your eyes, at first that is. The next time, you know to keep a passive view instead of a intense one.
I'll keep that in mind for the next time, I also think I had the candle a bit too close.

...and yes, one usually leads to the other. Many people report their first conscious OBE or LD by merely listening to a Speaker or simply reading a book on the subject.

Can definitely relate to that, most times when I get a renewed interest in the subject and immerse myself in it, it usually leads to an experience.
80  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Hypnagogic imagery. on: November 24, 2020, 13:50:58
Awesome Bob! I love seeing posts like this where the person applies a method and it works!  smiley cool This practice doesn't always have to be such a struggle.

 Many times while focusing, i will all of a sudden get a incredibly powerful, overwhelming prompt to "unfocus", as you put it. This immediately leads to what i call the "exploding head syndrome", In this I get a overwhelming surge of energy that seems to apex at or above my head. Although this energy is strong, it is also very short lasting. Then I am "there", I am now experiencing with my "Mind's eye", which to me seems like a singular point of consciousness.

Sounds intense!

I will definitely continue to use the "candle technique/method", maybe not for 15 minutes as it did strain the eyes a bit. But I really think it's great, as it allows you to work on the focus with open eyes and gives you a "target" with closed eyes. It also lead to a nice short lucid dream I just dumped in my little journal.
81  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: November 24, 2020, 13:11:16

201123 (semi lucid dream)

A crowd was standing in a circle around something I was in the back and couldn't see what it was, I wanted to see what they where looking at, but didn't want to be rude and go in front of anyone so hesitated for a while. Eventually the curiosity got the better of me, and I moved to the front. It turned out to be me in bed, was not expecting that. I interlocked fingers with the person standing behind me and leaned back on the crowd, it felt AWESOME! I slowly came too, the crowd I was leaning on turned into my bed and the holding hands into my hands with interlocked fingers resting on my stomach, so it was a very smooth transition. I felt great the rest of the day, full of energy  smiley

A very short one, but absolutely wonderful!
82  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Visualization on: November 24, 2020, 11:21:11
Thank you guys so much, these videos are wonderful. I sometimes fall asleep to music or stories I find on yt.

Same here, my new favorite channel for just that is this one
Feynman lectures are also great for this, but maybe that's just me..
83  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Hypnagogic imagery. on: November 24, 2020, 05:33:24
I tried the staring at a candle thing yesterday, keeping focus on the outline of the flame and not the flame itself. While doing this sometimes it was like the hole room would disappear and only the flame remained. After closing my eyes I did the same thing with the bright dot ("imprint"), not looking/ focusing directly at it but around it, if I looked directly at it, it would quickly fade away, but came back when letting eyes unfocus. After the "imprint" was completely gone and the hypnagogic imagery started to appear, I again did the same thing and it really seems to work. Best way I can describe it would be unfocusing the eyes on command or not letting them focus directly on the "image", kinda like fighting the natural instinct/reflex.

The words of a famous song by 38 Special come to mind here. "HOLD ON LOOSELY, BUT DON'T LET GO!".

This makes perfect sense now  smiley
84  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Hypnagogic imagery. on: November 23, 2020, 07:02:58
The vibrations felt like a violent earthquake and the sound was that of what I could only describe as a helicopter landing on my roof. It was surreal. The next thing I saw was my immediate surroundings.

Sounds exactly like the first time I had the vibrations, like being in the center of a massive earthquake with this extremely loud rumbling/roaring sound and then seeing myself lying on the couch in the living room. Have experienced the vibrations since then, but nowhere near as violent as the first time.

I'm going to try the technique the guy in the video(s) described, and work on visualization and focus, thanks for the link  smiley
85  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Hypnagogic imagery. on: November 23, 2020, 04:44:53
Thanks for the answer Lumaza!

I've done or rather tried to do the candle flame visualization in the past, after reading an article on meditation that described it. But eventually I gave up on it, because all I see is blackness.

Only one time for a split second did I see a flame with closed eyes, like it was actually there. I can imagine it in my mind, but not actually see it, if that makes sense huh. But I'm gonna give it another try.
86  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Hypnagogic imagery. on: November 22, 2020, 10:23:56
I've been having an increase in these lately before waking up, in that half-asleep/half-awake state. But I'm only able to hold onto them for a short time before they fade away and I fully wake up, at most around 10 sec.

Was wandering if anyone have experience in getting them to last longer, or if it's "just" a case of passively observing and getting used to them ?

Here's some examples of what I've been seeing:

Wolves face.
Green background with a green cone in the middle that stood out in 3d, with 3/4 symbols arranged vertically.
Cute/friendly smiling ghostbusters logo waving at me.
Trippy visual, half squares from corners towards center in every color of the rainbow.
Outline of black shapes getting filled out by white in cool looking patterns, from the inside out and outside in.
Hole field of vision filled with lines of text, with words in various places morphing into other words.
Big manor house seen from a big bright green lawn.
87  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: November 18, 2020, 19:43:36
201113 (Lucid dream)

I have been taking a break from trying to AP because of totally messed up sleep cycle due to too much meditation/trying to AP throughout the day. Basically not being tired at night, and pushing the time I went to bed until night and day was switched around.

Anyway, had this weird LD. It started inside a house, a bunch of young people (late teens, and a bit shadowy) coming in through the walls and door, and starting to push me around. I tried to get them to stop but that didn't work, so I picked them up by their feet and slammed them against the floor and whatever was around. It felt like picking up a piece of foam no weight at all, they broke into many pieces when hitting something and their skin disappeared as they broke, leaving bloody parts on the floor kinda like broken glass, it felt a bit cartoonish.

Flew outside and then into a old wood house (single floor) that was nearby, it was much bigger inside with many floors with a opening in the middle of them. There was some sort of party going on, people everywhere some naked/half-naked. Met a cute girl and we started making out, we tried to find a empty room but there was people everywhere. Floated up through the opening and had a look at the different floors, one was open/empty with no furniture and had 6-7 naked girls lying in a circle on the floor with legs spread apart and their feet against each other in a star pattern, others had many people and rooms and felt crowded. Floated up to the top where there was a group of older Indian men sitting on the floor, got pulled into(merged with) one of them, a short heavy-set man that seemed to be the leader/elder. He was in control and I was along for the ride, it felt pretty strange, he floated down to the ground floor and tried to show/teach me something about some small metal plates/labels on a vertical wooden beam(red numbers), I think it was dates but didn't get the meaning of it, he floated back up and we separated.

Had some fun flying around the house very fast and making sharp turns, probably the best control I've ever had  smiley. Went into a room with few people and started to talk with another cute girl, we began kissing and I thought we were about to get it on, but then she touched my left eye with her thumb that had some sticky stuff on it, started seeing this amazing bright twisting multicolored spiral but only with the left eye, having this only happen to one eye felt so strange that I woke up. It was like being two places at once with no connection between the two.

That's it for now, until next time!
88  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: September 25, 2020, 00:04:15
200924 - start 05:15  end 06:30 - AP/lucid dream ?
Dozed off while reading a declassified CIA document about remote viewing, haven't done that since way back when, when studying for exams lol (but it was pretty boring, remote viewing is definitely not for me, or maybe it was just the way it was written). Body felt heavy, relaxed/loose and I had a slow pulsing vibration/waviness thing going on in lower legs, felt like a good time to try to AP.

Lying down wearing noise cancelling headphones and closed eyes, it was a lot easier than usual to quite down the monkey mind and I got to the point where there is this shift in consciousness (theta waves ?) pretty quick, within 5 minutes or thereabouts, dozed off for a sec. had a micro dream then drifted in and out of the shift in consciousness for some time, then "got out of body". Don't recall any vibrations or sound, but there was some white out of vision and the feeling of motion. I was in my room in the NP, and it felt like an AP.

Have had the intention of not trying anything crazy next time I "got out" since the last time, and the plan was to stay as long as possible to try and get use to being in the NP. Spend 5-10 minutes in the house standing still and looking around, picking up stuff and putting it down again, tasted/licked something but can't for the life of me remember what it was.
Opened/closed a door, pushed on the closed door with my hand, then pushed hand through the door, I still think it's pretty cool that just the thought/intent of what you want to happen has an instant effect.

Got bored of being in the house and decided it was time to have some fun, flew straight up through basement ceiling and roof, sunny outside with thin white cloud cover, got above the clouds but then started to get a little tingling in the stomach (I have a little acrophobia) so closed my eyes and kept flying up (going for broke, just to see what would happen), when I opened them again I was to high up for my liking got scared and "snapped back into my body". Opened eyes for a brief moment, was back in my room. Closed my eyes and quickly "got out" again, but this time I was outside on a madras somewhere that kinda looked like the place I lived before. The madras was beside a children's playground, there was a big sandbox (~10x10 meters) to the right of me with a wooden playhouse in bright colors and in the center a swing set, some little kids running around having fun. To the left a big lawn and then a 3 story apartment building, it was sunny but at the apartment building facade it was night, there was one room on the top floor with the lights on and two girls/young women standing at the window covering their mouth and whispering to each other, pointing down at me and giggling. They came down and one of them went into to sandbox playing with the kids the other sat down at the food of the madras with a devious smile, I closed my eyes and started meditating, the girl then sat on my legs I told her to get off, she asked why ? Because I'm meditating I said, she moved down to the food of the madras again, I continued to meditate. Then she started throwing small twigs at me, got annoyed and flew off.

Flew around the city for a while, had pretty good control could turn better this time and control the height, but hovering was a no go, noticed I was wearing a watch looked at it and it was 5:00 o'clock. Landed on a incline stone path where there was a lot of people walking, approached a cute Chinese girl walking in front of me, she was happy to see me like we knew each other, she felt very familiar to me. She invited me to dinner at her parents house, but that didn't go well at all. Was served vegetable soup, told the girl look at this waved my hand over the plate and turned it into two big square chunks of beef and one long vegetable of some kind, that didn't go over well, her dad flipped out and made it very clear I wasn't welcome there. There was a part where a Chinese man was throwing knives and meat cleavers at me (felt quite serious), I ducked/avoided them, picked them up and threw them back at him. The man was holding two chopping boards and when I hit them with the knives and cleavers he laughed at me at yelled very good, nice throw and stuff like that very strange, not sure if it was the girls father. After that my response was to fly straight into the ground to get away from there but there was too much resistance only got a few meters down. Then some guy who also felt familiar told me to 'get up here', he was up on a bamboo watch tower type building. Got up there and we then flew down through to floor from there and ended up in a martial art class with a bunch of white belts, had a conversation with the guy about my background/accomplishments in karate, guy then tells me, then this isn't for you, this is for beginners. We left the studio
and went outside (and this is where things get really strange).

At some point I looked at the watch again, and this time it was 5:40 o'clock.

While standing outside on the sidewalk I told the guy watch this, I put my hands together with the fingers spread touching the fingertips together, when I pulled them apart electric sparks started jumping between my hands, first little blue thin sparks then they got white and thicker and at 'full power' red orbs started appearing between the sparks. Some guy started harassing an old lady across the street with sparks from his hands, same kind I had just showed to the other guy. I threw some sparks his way to make him stop, then a whole group (approx. 10 people) appeared on the street from out of nowhere, some of them started yelling 'look he's like of us' (referring to me) others yelled 'no he can't be look he's got a beard', like having a beard was a very bad thing. Ran across the road to stop the guy that was attacking the elderly lady, I was incredibly angry with him. Me being angry then started affecting them like we where linked in some way, someone yelled 'he's angry, he's one of THEM, stop him', someone slapped a big metallic wristband on my left forearm and that stopped them from being affected. Went with the 'gang' or they took me with them somehow, we ended up in what looked like an ancient desert city. Was sitting down on a low stone wall and an old friendly man was doing something to the wristband, suddenly I got a feeling of déjà vu and asked the old man 'I've been through this before haven't I' ? He answered yes, but this time it's gonna end differently ? I asked him, he just smiled and kept tinkering with the wristband, like he knew exactly what was going to happen but didn't want to tell me. The old dude left and something made my anger towards the guy that had attacked the old lady come back, at that point I just wanted to hurt them all so I took the wristband off and ran right at him. But I was no match for him, while fighting him (more like him toying with me) he went on about all the types of martial arts he was an expert in and had trained for centuries, he put me in a triangle choke then told me he was my brother, and proceeded to open up my left arm from shoulder to palm and let go of me. I walked back to the stone wall hoping the old guy would be there to help me, while trying to hold the wound together, blood was pouring out, it was more black then red or very dark red, there was no pain and I was more intrigued with the color then focusing on anything else. An old guy with a staff came running and i thought yay he's going to fix me, but he was more interested in stopping the others which were now fighting among themselves. Then I finally woke up. The end.

The last part I was kinda just along for the ride. Was fully lucid through it all, but it was more like watching a movie from first person perspective then a 'normal' lucid dream/AP.

1 hour 15 minutes passed from lying down (felt like one long experience).

Following I felt refreshed.
89  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Cat encounter on: September 20, 2020, 12:36:34
Hey there Batgirl,

Only seen the cat with the missing tail those 2 times, yeah I thought it was pretty weird, it certainly does make you think.

Maybe the lucid dog-dream was somehow a test. Have read about people having the same scenario repeating until they 'get it right/learn the lesson', although I can't really see what would be the point with this one LOL, and then to have it happen IRL, a memorable experience for sure, anyway just a thought.

Cool to see others have had similar experiences, yours just kicks it up a notch smiley
90  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: September 08, 2020, 15:45:26
Trying to AP. Dozed off and came to in the beginning of vibration stage, but it faded away.

200908 - end 09:50 (UTC+2) - Dream/semi lucid
Gave phasing a go after having read the first part of FRANK'S MODEL OF THE WIDER REALITY.

After a long time (guessing ~45 min) I started seeing some white lines/patterns, dozed off. Then watching a screen in my mind, that turned into me sitting on my couch in the living room watching the TV. Thought about stepping into the scene. The TV then started expanding filling my entire view, started resisting and thought I maybe had woken up. Walked to the dinner table and tried to push my hand through the top several times but couldn't, it felt very real could feel the cold granite and the texture, and my hand looked normal. At that point I was sure I was awake. The rest is a confusing blur. Walking up some stairs saw a kid lying in my bed in a big open empty room. Up some more stairs, another big empty room sister and former boyfriend sleeping in a bed, deceased family dog lying on floor sleeping, petted the dog he woke up. Fighting someone (don't know why). Woke up.

1 hour passed from lying down.

Feels like I'm going backwards, can't believe I chickened out/resisted when the TV was 'coming at me'  sad
91  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: September 08, 2020, 15:14:38
Something tells me you have a treasure trove of journal entries to entice us with!  Smiley

I'll have to save this link for future reading.  Wink

To come, maybe. I can only hope  smiley. What little I had written down in the past was done on a phone and that got stolen, and of course no backup  sad
92  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: What is ascension? on: September 02, 2020, 22:59:35
Hiya, Xanth!

Yes always ask away.

From the top — there is 1 ) what is, and 2 ) our experience of what is.

In my own words, just to show I am aligned with your statement up there : "Physicality itself is not real.. Consciousness is real. Experience is real. Consciousness, experiencing ITSELF is all that is ever happening. Consciousness is not physical - it is not dense, solid, hard. In truth, physicality is not either, when it is understood to be an experience - OF an idea - *called physicality. This is what I mean when I say physicality itself is not real -yet the experience you [ consciousness ] create(s OF it is very real."

So, yes, physicality itself is not real, it is an illusion, a play of the light - yet the experience OF it is very real. Is it not?

It is the realm of experience that is ever being discussed. In the realm of experience, there is an experience one may actualize called ascension.

It may also be called physical body dematerialization - teleportation - the conscious shift. All of these apply to the concept.

Make sense?


So if I can shift my consciousness from physical space into other frequency fields,

I can also shift the consciousness cells collectively referred to as 'my body'.

Each cell IS a consciousness. - consciousness is all there is.

At no level are we fundamentally our appearance.

Do you see?

Very well put omcasey!
93  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Stalking? What Can I Do to Stop This? on: August 24, 2020, 22:24:20
DuckDuckGo (or google) "blocking psychic attacks" there are loads of information, but I assume you have already done that.

"Rooms that are completely isolated, even from psychics"
Even if you get your hands on the specs/info of a room like that (assuming they even exist), I'm guessing its gonna cost more then 'normal' people can afford to construct.

Perhaps a superconducting Faraday cage...

Have a look here @ 8 minutes in the part about "gratitude rock". I know it sounds like a bunch of poppycock, but it works for me, every time I pick up 'my object' I instantly get in a better mood, try it you might be surprised  smiley
94  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Why do you want OBEs? on: August 22, 2020, 17:09:58
Curiosity, exploration and self discovery. To escape/get a break from the laws of the physical world. And to get answers as to why it happened naturally to me as a child. If the last hadn't occurred, I probably wouldn't be drawn to the subject.
95  2012 and The Transition of the Ages / Welcome to 2012 and The Transition of the Ages / Re: Star Seeds and ETs ? on: August 22, 2020, 10:13:45
Can't remember if I got this from a book, or maybe a YT video (was a long time ago). But it theorized about the government(US) being behind subsequent abductions of real abductees, to implant them with tracking devices. As far as I remember they claimed to have prof, that some removed devices was man made tech. Perhaps you know what I'm talking about here EV ? Can't seem to find it now.
96  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Projection Journal -*Advise, tips, suggestions and comments are welcomed*- on: August 22, 2020, 03:31:23
Heya all, and welcome to Bob's Journal.

A little background:

Started having what I believe to be astral projections / out of body experiences as a kid around 5-6 years old. This went on for about a year, and then stopped. Since then, after learning what was going on, it's been an uphill battle trying to do it on purpose, with only about 20 experiences (stretched out over some 30 years) and of those ~5 being noteworthy. Have done a fair bit of lucid dreaming, and practiced meditation on and off since early 20s. Now after taking myself off the job market, and having the time, I've decided to give it a real shot and see where it leads. BTW I'm not native English speaker so bear with me.  smiley

200821 - end 18:50 (UTC+2)

Was lying down with closed eyes wearing headphones listening to Robert Monroe's 1992 interview. Focus on keeping my eyes still/relaxed and relaxing face muscles. Wasn't going for any kind of experience, just listening and working a bit on relaxing. Did this thing where I try and totally forget/shutdown the body and be/focus in my head.

Fell asleep. dreamed about being on some kind of craft with a crew(in space ?), where we were controlling something remotely (combat/military vibe).
Woke up/opened my eyes but didn't move, or dreamt I woke up ? Wasn't so clear, but it was my room I saw so maybe I did wake up, idk.. With open eyes a mild vibration stage started (thinking, oh this is really strange going from being awake into VBS, what the heck is going on), accompanied by a chaotic stream of high pitched angry voices that seemed to be directed at me. My vision then started to white out, a bit of shaking/vibrations/loud noise and I popped out.

Flew up high (100-200 meters) beautiful deep blue sky, looked down, lots of trees and lawns/fields, vivid green colors all over. Flew down, wasn't able to change direction so well while flying, so bumped into things grabbed on and pushed off to change direction. Slammed into a fence surrounding a park or stadium right behind this couple, the girl had a bun/ponytail, gave it a little tab to see if she would notice it, but no reaction, no one seemed to notice me (edit: and come to think of it, there wasn't any sound either). Flew down the road surrounding the stadium/park for a bit, then woke up.
Duration less then 2 minuets.

Following my eyes felt very tired, and a heavy feeling in the head, lasted about ½ hour.
97  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Artificial Loneliness on: August 20, 2020, 23:08:27
I cannot provide a whole lot of contrast, except to say that I think I get it. I have always enjoyed loneliness and have never needed much human interaction. I also often seek isolation and disconnection from this current reality through meditation and LDs. I love to go on long drives alone too.

Any friendships have suffered because of this, because many people do not understand this need to be really alone for long periods.

I do not have a problem with people using drugs, but have never needed drugs to disconnect.
If food was not an issue I would probably have lived somewhere in a remote wooded area.

I concur with everything above, with the exception that I do enjoy the occasional company of Mary Jane.

The thing is, I don't have the 'filter' most people have, guess I'm too honest. I mean what I say, and say what I mean, most people can't handle that. Sometimes I feel everybody around me are dishonest and have some sort of agenda, like they are acting and not being real. A cabin in the woods with a internet connection or a big library, a couple of dogs and cats, sign me up!
98  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: A type of remote viewing I can do by myself on: August 20, 2020, 16:48:31
I've tried going to government buildings and they have astral guards.

Being "a bit" of a conspiracy nut grin, the thought of doing this has always intrigued me, I've read about the astral guards before but there is never any real details. What exactly do these guards do ? Would you advise against doing something like this ?
99  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Rectangles, Squares and Sky Platforms on: August 20, 2020, 06:14:53
Thanks for the clarification Nameless. I've tried in the past to do something similar with the moon while meditating, without much result. But never vocally, something new to try out  smiley
100  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Rectangles, Squares and Sky Platforms on: August 19, 2020, 20:43:11
Very Interesting, I for one hope they are scrubbing aluminium, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, barium, lead, selenium, silver and CO2

I meditated on those rectangle objects in the sky and got more (and less) than I expected. I won't go through the how to part but just jump right to the point. We can discuss after if you have questions.

Would love to hear more about the 'how to part'  smiley
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