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76  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Has anybody tried this? on: January 13, 2008, 02:47:40
Don't bother, it's just a scam.  Nice little earner....
77  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Robert Bruce video interview on: January 02, 2008, 02:43:09
Nice one Don, very interesting. Since it's not immediately obvious, for those interested, the interview can be found in the OBE section of Don's website here:

http://www.astralsource.com/obe.html
78  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Online Course - new start date: Feb. 1/08 on: December 27, 2007, 23:18:33
Hi all

I've had a look at Don's website, and the beginnings of his course material and i have to say it looks like a very interesting and unusual initiative.  Personally (for what it's worth and putting my reputation on the line!) I recommend that anyone who is interested in the subjects of LD and OBE might like to consider taking a look smiley
79  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Online Course - starts January 1st, 2008 on: December 24, 2007, 03:51:46
The 3 monthly thing sounds like a good idea.  I'll check out the Robert Bruce interview on your web site.  Good luck with the video editing stuff - I never found any video software I could get on with, would be interested to hear what you use....
80  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Online Course - starts January 1st, 2008 on: December 24, 2007, 03:09:35
Hi Don

Just like to say welcome (back).  I think this is a great idea and I wish you success with it.  The start date of 1st Jan might be a bit optimistic if you wish to get a reasonable group together, you might think of pushing it back 1 month?  Personally I have way too many commitments right now to get involved, but as i say I hope you have success with this.
81  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Blind Projectionists on: December 17, 2007, 04:58:47
Well that would indeed be an excellent study if you could do it!  I also read that people who become blind continue to have sighted dreams for several, even many years after they lose their sight.  Anyway, good luck with your endeavour as always i know you'll keep us informed.... btw it's 4:00am here in the UK so I think I better go to bed now! 
82  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Blind Projectionists on: December 17, 2007, 04:41:49
Hmmm

Well I wonder if you could advertise for volunteers?  If you're able to give up sufficient time to tutor someone, that may be a way... but i admit it would be a long struggle...... most sighted people don't have the perseverence to do this.  Robert Bruce said something weird in his book which I never understood, which was that blind people don't "see" during OBEs in the same way that sighted people do.  How would he know, has he met blind OBErs?  And why should our physical handicaps be duplicated in the OBE state?Huh
83  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Good book? on: December 17, 2007, 04:22:49
I have a library of 100's of books on ESP and OBE's.  I wouldn't trust Sapphire's book.  get anything by

Robert Monroe (get his 1st book)
Robert Bruce
Robert Peterson
William Buhlman

These are all generally trusted authors these days.

Has Sapphire published his first book in its entirety for free gratis on the internet?  Doubt it!  That's exactly what Bob Peterson has done for the past 10 years. Now you can't doubt his sincerity can you? Here it is:

http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html

Real fans might try to get hold of an old classic "Astral Projection" by Oliver Fox.  I wonder how many board members heard of it?  Was written back in about 1920 I think. It covers an exit technique called the The Pineal Doorway which may be useful.

Hmm what is it about the name "Bob"Huh!!!!
84  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: Blind Projectionists on: December 17, 2007, 04:06:39
Hi Tvos

i know this has been discussed before and I always recommend the book Mindsight by Kenneth Ring which has a few case histories.  I know you are looking for actual people you can contact, but perhaps you could actually talk to Kenneth Ring and he may be able to help you?  The book gives some very interesting examples of people blind from birth who experienced "vision like" (ie highly detailed 3D colour) perception during NDE:

http://www.amazon.com/Mindsight-Near-Death-Out-Body-Experiences/dp/0966963008

You're probably already aware of this book, but I just thought I'd mention it, perhaps for others on the board.  It's well worth reading.
85  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: A Beginners Guide To Vibrations on: December 13, 2007, 20:56:38
Hi Magickist

Thanks for the post. I can also add a couple more exit techniques;

1. Spinning: Whilst in the vibrational (or MABA) state, imagine yourself spinning about a vertical axis (so that the room appears to be spinning around).  A bit like being on a roundabout in a kids' playground.  You will probably feel the sensation of spinning before you see anything, but very soon you should actually behin to see the room moving round from your spinning position above your body.  At this point I can usually see in dim grey shades.  Fix your vision on something (say the corner of the room and stabilise/stop the spin.  Stand up. Once stabilised, you should be able to see reasonably well.  Leave the room!

2. Beam Out: Simply think of beaming across the room onto the floor some short distance away from your bed.  After a short while you should become aware of being in this new position, probably kneeling on the floor, and probably you will be able to "see".  I am usually facing away from the bed when i am able to "see" and then stand up, turn around and get a good look at the bedroom.  If you can't "see" at this point, then then stand up and "feel" the bedroom wall, vision should come along fairly quickly after this.  Leave the room!

In all cases I have found vision whilst in my bedroom to be grey shades but once I leave the room I have full colour!
86  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / Re: Validation thread! on: December 10, 2007, 02:44:51
Yeh, I hear people walking around the house too - which is well spooky - especially since I then have to decide whether I'm being burgled and actually hearing someone physically walking around.  These sounds are extremely realistic.  It's a difficult call when this happens!  Radio is easy by comparison!  I've heard the radio thing reported before, it's curious that many people should share this experience.  If this is just a hallucination why the archetype?  If it's not a hallucination what does it mean?  Thanks for the validation btw, I find all validations interesting...
87  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / Re: Validation thread! on: December 09, 2007, 00:37:20
Hi j360 and welcome.  I get the radio broadcast thing too.  It happens in the morning during a false awakening.  I hear the sound of a radio station even though the radio is off.  I often recognise the FA state and discount the radio broadcast as a curious hallucination.  It feels a bit spooky though...
88  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: First Out of Body Experiences... on: December 09, 2007, 00:30:45
You know Jen I too had dreams of floating around my bedroom at bunk bed height when I was very young, maybe about 10 or 11, also dreams of walking around the house in a kind of misty soup and not being able to get the lights to work.  But i just passed these off as dreams.
89  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Re: First Out of Body Experiences... on: December 02, 2007, 03:13:27
I was a teenager, maybe about 16 years old and had just finished reading Sylvan Muldoon's The Projection of the Astral Body, maybe a couple of days earlier.  I was quite excited and determined to do this. 

I awoke at about 10:00 am on the Saturday morning, and could distinctly hear my mother clumping about in the kitchen downstairs making the sort of noise designed to annoy a teenager trying to sleep in.....  Yes she succeeded! But I just ignored it, relaxed, closed my eyes and "willled" myself with all my might to float upwards.  I felt a floating sensation, then I was suddenly able to see.  What i saw was the polystyrene ceiling tiles of my bedroom from a few inches away.  It took me a few seconds to figure this out - it was quite a shock!  I could still hear my mother clunking around, and then all of a sudden I was back in my body, rubbing my eyes.  Got up inspected the ceiling tiles - yep that's how they look!  I repeated this the next morning (sunday).

Since then I have learnt that the trick is NOT "willpower" - it's relaxation.  Many times i have woken in the morning feeling quite relaxed and tried to "will" myself upwards.  But all I succeed in doing is arching my back (physically) and I get nowhere.  But if I R..E..L..A..X.. and simply allow myself to drift into the mind-awake-body-asleep state, i can just get up and walk away from my body...

I have no idea how I managed to OOB using "willpower" those first two times.  I have never been able to "will" myself out since!
90  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: How to convert Lucid Dreams into an Astral Projections on: December 01, 2007, 02:16:48
Would never happen to me at least.  I always take a little hop and if I float lightly down to the ground I know I'm dreaming.  Pretty important test to do before jumping off the top of a building!  smiley
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