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1  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling Osho on: April 28, 2004, 04:35:31
A joke.

I was looking for the Buddha meditation deck by Osho on amazon.ca. So I entered the key words 'deck' and 'osho'. Here is what I got :

Amazon.ca Results total matches

We found no matches for "osho deck" .  Below are results for "show willy" .  If you prefer, you may try another search.


I swear.

[Tongue]
2  Healing / Welcome to the Healing place! / I AM SERIOUS : DO NOT DELETE : PRAYER on: February 26, 2004, 00:58:10
If you read this, have a prayer for

- Fuzzywig
- Parmenion
- Edi
- Mayatnik
- Val Kilmer
- Truthseeker

Pray for spiritual, emotional, social, and even sexual healing.
Pray so that they find love and peace and light again.
Whatever your religion. If your religion doesn't use 'prayers', then do NOT pray, of course.
For those who are not sickened yet, the prayor will serve as prevention.

Thank you.

It will take 15 seconds of your time. DO IT NOW ! Don't postpone/forget.
3  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Are we on the same timeline ? on: February 25, 2004, 03:54:31
If you think that you will go through the Pole shift, then you may be right. If you think this will never happen, you may be correct as well. It all depends.

Crazy stuff :

THE RETURN OF NIBIRU
by Greg Wright (the writer of this article) and
Nicholette Pavlevsky (the channel of the information)
January 2003

Source : http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/wright.htm

Despite government denials, a planet known as Nibiru or Planet X is headed toward Earth and will cause increasing disturbances and eventually a cataclysmic pole shift as it passes near-by in 2009.
However, many people will not experience this. We have free will and the ability to choose what reality we experience. There are different timelines we can shift into and different scenarios that can occur
within each timeline according to individual and group decisions yet to be made.
This is the message we have been given to share with others through Nicholette's channelling. We have spoken with five different entities: Manlar, who is Nicholette's ET walk-in higher self; Vallar, a representative of the Federation of Planets; Sasha, a Pleiadian future self of Lyssa Royal Holt who assists worlds in transition; the Zetas, a group of Greys who communicate with Nancy Lieder of the ZetaTalk Web site; and Gretchen--better known as the Lady in White or the Lady of the Lake--an angelic Earth spirit who comforts and heals those who are wounded in battle. The Zetas, through Nancy Lieder, have told the world Nibiru will
arrive on May 15, 2003. Nancy likes the idea of a single, inevitable reality and the Zetas, who have a similar mindset, catered to this. But the Zetas acknowledged to us that their timetable is based partly
on inference. They intuitively perceived some kind of major ET contact for Earth in the spring of 2003, and heard rumour of such from the Federation, then they INFERRED that the contact would be from Nibiru, and further inferred that the ruling race of the ETs who live on Nibiru would accelerate their planet to a certain speed in order to maintain its orbit around a particular planetoid, and from this the
Zetas calculated a path and timetable for Nibiru that had it reaching Earth on May 15, 2003. The Pleiadian Sasha, however, told us that the ET contact they perceived is actually a plan for mass telepathic contact from the Pleiadians and the Federation which will be conducted
if humans are not at war and are receptive to a peaceful ET outreach. The Zetas have provided a lot of excellent information through Nancy Lieder, but apparently they are not as adept as Manlar, Vallar or Sasha at directly perceiving reality creation by mass consciousness, and they acknowledged to us that they don't understand alternative
timelines. Therefore Nicholette and I have more confidence in the perspectives of Manlar, Vallar and Sasha.
Here are the basics of the Nibiru situation as described to us by these three entities:

Nibiru, the home of ETs known as the Anunnaki who are the gods of the Old Testament, orbits around our Sun, around a second sun known by such names as Nemesis, the Dark Star and the Black Sun, and around an unnamed planetoid. It has a triangular-elliptical orbit of about 3600 years, although its orbital period has been steadily decreasing, so past orbits were of longer duration. It caused Earth cataclysm with great floods in or around 5600 B.C. and 9577 B.C. Nibiru's gravitational (including hyper dimensional) influence began causing substantial Earth disturbances in 1998. The future is fluid,
but in the timeline in which Nibiru passes near Earth, and assuming Nibiru’ s speed and path are not altered, the following will occur: In 2003 Earth disturbances will become too obvious to ignore as being out of the ordinary, and Nibiru will grow visible to the naked eye. The disturbances will continue to increase until they reach their cataclysmic peak in September of 2009, when Nibiru will be closest to
Earth. Nibiru will reach the zenith of its orbit around our Sun in 2012 and then will return in Earth's direction before finally heading away in 2015 or 2016; Earth disturbances will continue through this
period, being strongest once a year when the Earth in its orbit around the Sun approaches Nibiru.
Nibiru will cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, rising sea levels, high winds, dust storms and torrential rains. There will be a slowing of Earth's rotation, polar wobbling, a magnetic pole reversal and a rotational pole shift that will place the North and South Poles on what is now the Equator. The pole shift will occur over a period of several months, September of 2009 being its midpoint. As Nibiru passes, its tail will rain asteroids onto the Earth and will heat and chemically alter Earth's atmosphere, which will be humid from a boiling off of the oceans. Dust in the air will completely blot out the Sun for six months. A new ice age will be triggered.
However, the Earth disturbances will be greatly reduced if the Anunnaki slow down their planet, as they recently learned how to do. This is because Nibiru would make a wider orbit around our Sun and
because if Nibiru’ s arrival is delayed by six months then the Earth will be on the opposite side of the Sun from Nibiru when Nibiru passes. Three races of Anunnaki live on Nibiru. The Ruling Race rules the whole planet. They are reclusive and want nothing to do with humans. They don't care how many humans die. They don't want to slow their planet because the changed orbit would take it far from Nibiru’ s planetoid, from which they obtain crystals that aid their powerful telepathic ability, which they use to control others. The Scientific Race is the one that came to Earth in the past and ruled as gods. They would like to rule Earth again, or at least to interact with humans and acquire human genetics and Earth resources. Therefore they don't want Earth destruction. The Artistic Race is the most spiritual of the three. They would like to benefit from human art and spirituality and to promote spiritual
growth for both themselves and humans. The Federation could shift Nibiru into a different dimension during the time it would otherwise pass near Earth, but the Federation practices the prime directive of non-interference. Also, from the Federation's point of view, human technology has outpaced human
spirituality, and a setback in our technology could be a good thing. Furthermore, the Federation sees how tyrannical government has controlled much of human affairs through a concentration of money and political power and through covert control of advanced technologies and knowledge of true Earth history. They know that a cataclysm that would drive this government underground (the main refuge the government has prepared for themselves) while creating challenging living conditions on the surface that would lead to much spiritual growth and new spiritual communities there is humanity's best chance to replace tyrannical government with spiritual government. Some ET races who are Federation members want to preserve Earth as a place they can trade with, and have asked the Federation to intervene, which they may do to some extent. Also Pleiadians, Sirians and others will help in various ways, such as by protecting particular places on Earth or evacuating some people. Evacuation, however, is mostly not a viable option because a being's health suffers when it is away from its home environment for too long, as our astronauts have experienced. The government, which expects Nibiru to arrive in 2015, has been preparing underground cities for themselves. They have lists of people they will invite to go with them, the main criterion for such people being that they are compliant. As Nibiru approaches the government will tell the public various lies about what Nibiru is and why it is not a problem. One of their stories is that Nibiru is a comet that will pass near Earth in 2024. Earth changes will continue to increase but the government will blame this on the Sun. Astronomers who have access to evidence about Nibiru will be intimidated or otherwise silenced. The good aspect of the government's cover-up is that it will keep people from panicking and giving up on life. That would be the worst
thing that could happen. All who are living in these times have chosen to be here for the spiritual growth that is possible, and in order to gain that growth the challenges must be embraced and not run away from.

And yet, each of us has the ability to shift into a cataclysm-free timeline. One way we can do this is by letting go of a belief in Armageddon--a belief that there is great evil in our world that can only be purged through violence. Many timelines have temporarily merged during this period of transition from third to fourth density (dimension). About two-thirds of the Earth's people will experience a
cataclysmic timeline while about one-third will experience a cataclysm-free timeline.
People in the latter timeline may not even be interested in Nibiru because most have come from a timeline with a different history in which Nibiru and the Anunnaki caused less disturbance to human affairs. For those who choose to experience cataclysm, the return of Nibiru will be a time of much fear but also a time of great faith. Giant leaps in spiritual growth will occur. People will come to realize that all that they thought defined life is not a true definition of life. People will learn that what they choose to believe and to perceive is what creates reality. The Earth spirit Gretchen describes it this way: "You're very distracted with certain perspectives of what life is. Those perspectives will be shattered by the arising difficulties in this time. And when those perspectives begin to break down, and you're left with just you, your mind, your soul, and your ability to believe in yourself, and your ability to connect with God, then you'll realize that the power lies there, and you'll be able to more readily concentrate your energies and be able to manage your body with your mind." The Anunnaki "gods" taught humans to worship others who seemed to have more power. The Anunnaki left Earth but humans carried on the practice of authoritarian government and religion. Those who experience the next Nibiru cataclysm will see how the government hoarded resources and took refuge underground while leaving them to
fend for themselves on the surface. More people will listen to the truth about covert government. New concepts will be developed for spiritual living. The return of Nibiru will provide an opportunity for
people to reclaim a belief in themselves and establish a truly
spiritual world. »

[:O]

4  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Cassiopaens and Pleiadians on: February 25, 2004, 03:10:14

They are more or less the same...?

From this site :
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/pleiadians.htm

Q: (L) How many members are there in the Orion/Lizzie group?
A: 16.
Q: (L) Who are the good guys? You say the Cassiopaeans are the good guys. Who else?
A: Pleiadeans and many others.
Q: (L) How many?
A: 16.
Q: (L) Are the sides equally balanced?
A: Yes.

Here we have the idea that there is a distinction between the Cassiopaeans and Pleiadians. In fact, we have a more or less "sorting" and enumeration of groups.

Q: (L) Who were the original creator gods?
A: Us. Sixth Density.
Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans? Were the Pleiadeans also the original creator gods?
A: Same. Sixth Density.

Here we have an idea that the "creator gods," (as distinct from Prime Creator, which will come up in a minute) are all at the level of 6th density. This is not the same as saying that each "group" is exactly the same. It's comparable to me saying to a Martian that I am the "same" as Barbara Marciniak because we are both from Earth.

Q: (T) Are you also the Pleiadeans?
A: No.
Q: (T) Are you connected to the Pleiadeans?
A: Yes and so are others.
Q: (T) You are all the family of light?
A: Yes. Exactly. You have been "doing your homework".

Here we have a further distinction. The Cassiopaeans have said that, No, they are NOT the Pleiadians in the sense that the questioner was asking; which was to strictly define and delineate a "position."

Q: (L) Okay, who is telling E__ P__ that they are the Pleiadeans?
A: Orion STS.
Q: (L) Well, if you were Orion STS and we asked who you were, wouldn't you say you were the Cassiopaeans?
A: No. Pleiadians. That is "trendy" thus deceptive.

In the above, a specific situation was being examined, where a fellow who was later SHOWN clearly to be a "disinformation artist," (long story), was in question. And here the idea that claiming to be a Pleiadian, because it was now "popular" might be being used for deception in some cases.

Q: (L) What level are the Pleiadians who channel through Barbara Marciniak?
A: 6th density.

This is a simple question, with a simple answer. But, depending on how the person asks their question, and how they follow it up, they can become very misled by their own assumptions with which they fill in, for themselves, all between point "A" and point "B":

Now, it is easy to see how this could be misconstrued without the entire perspective. And the Cassiopaeans have noted this:

Q: Her other statement is: 'The C's have stated that they are a continuance of the Pleiadians. The Pleiadean view on sex, to be freely expressed, appears in direct opposition.'
A: Well, this is a jumbling of concepts. But just to tackle one of these, who is to say that the representations of Pleiadian concepts are really the same?

And here is another facet to that perspective:

Q: (L) How do you relate to the Pleiadians?
A: Pleiadians are communicating with many others; we are bursting upon the scene with you, but we are essentially the same, just at slightly different focus points on the realm border.
Q: (L) Well, why is all this activity happening now?
A: The grand cycle is about to close presenting a unique opportunity.
Q: (L) Does this mean that this is a unique opportunity to change the future?
A: Future, past and present.

In the above, we begin to understand that there is an essential "sameness" of the many sources of higher levels that are communicating with others on Earth. But, not only are they at "slightly different focus points," on the realm border, the individuals with whom they communicate are also different in terms of their ability to receive or "transduce" what they receive.

Now, in the excerpts below, even though I am still attempting to understand things and ask questions in a linear way, we begin to move into a new conceptual realm; we begin to experience a higher level of abstraction:

Q: (L) Okay, who created the Cassiopaeans?
A: Your super ancient spiritual ancestors.
Q: (L) Do these beings have a name? [as in a defined "group."]
A: No.
Q: (L) What are they called?
A: Transient passengers.

Q: (L) Now you mentioned the creators of your group as the super ancient ancestors called the transient passengers, what is the meaning of this term and who are these beings?
A: Transient passengers are not beings. Transient Passengers are unified thought form.
Q: (L) Why are they called transient passengers?
A: Because they transit all forms of reality. And they spring forth from the Unified form of existence.

Here we must go off in a "knight's move" to bring in another concept. What few people know is that each time we communicate with the Cassiopaeans, we address a different "aspect" of that reality. There is no single communicant. In the beginning, we asked about this:

Q: (L) Why is it every time we communicate with you Cassiopaeans we get a different person?
A: Energy disbursement.
Q: (L) Who is the energy disbursed to?
A: The next in order. We disburse. Our disbursement is akin to taking turns.
Q: (L) Is there an advantage to taking turns as opposed to having one communicant?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What is the advantage?
A: Energy equalization.

Q: (L) In another transmission we were told that we would receive information from a different being each time of contact in order to get good information. Why is this?
A: That is to make sure that balance and equilibrium is maintained and also informational sources are fresh in the interaction between the giver and the receiver.

And, at an even later time, we find that our asking for a name is even conceptually limited:

Q: What is your name?
A: You still desire a name. We'll say: Toren.
Q: (J) If it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
A: What matters is what matters to you and our desire to comply.

Now, getting back to the matter of "disbursement" and Transient Passengers:

Q: (L) Is there only one ultimate creator of the universe
A: All is one. And one is all.
Q: (L) From the one what was the first division?
A: Mass division and disbursement.
Q: (L) Was this simultaneous?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was this what we refer to as the "Big Bang?"
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there any reference to this event in terms of time?
A: Always.
Q: (L) Can we say that all that exists in the material universe is, say, "x" number of years old?
A: No. It is the eternal now. Not only did happen, is happening and going to happen. The expanded presence.

Please pay close attention to the fact that the Cassiopaeans did NOT affirm the "Big Bang" idea as it is presented by science. They agreed that this "mass disbursement" is what we refer to in those terms, but that it is a constant cycling, eternal NOW. This constant cycling creativity now gives us some idea of how to deal with the concepts of "points of focus" on the realm border. And we have a new idea here, moving into even greater abstraction, and that is of each individual being a "realm."

Q: (L) Now, getting back to the planet, if at some point in the cycle, bodies were generated on this planet and brought to earth, who brought them?
A: Realm crossing.
Q: (L) It was not a who, it was a what, is that correct?
A: All is who and what.
Q: (L) Well, the other night you mentioned something about the Transient Passengers hauling these bodies off that planet and bringing them to earth, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, are these Transient Passengers Realms?
A: Yes. So are you.

Now we are beginning to have a glimmer that the higher realms are very different from what we may have thought them to be. Not only that, but that each of us has some part of the self that extends into higher realms, including 6th density. And, in the following excerpt, the reader may be able to detect how extremely difficult it was for us to put aside our linear thinking and grasp what the Cassiopaeans were saying.

Q: (L) Are there other parts of us in all realms doing other things at this moment?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And how is this going to be affected by the realm border crossing?
A: Will merge.
Q: (L) Do we need to do extensive hypnosis to bring these aspects of ourselves up and deal with these things a little at a time?
A: Will happen involuntarily. Will be like a thermonuclear blast. Message follows: See pattern. Orion, Pleiades, Arcturas, Cassiopaea; check distances from earth; progress locator for wave combined with earth references of space time. For you to figure out. Cross reference channeled messages, printing dates and location. We are where we are.
Q: (L) What do you mean you are where you are?
A: Cross reference Time and distance.
Q: (L) What book do we need to cross reference?
A: Any star chart and Marciniak, Arcturas Channel, Orion literature and Us. We speak from "crest" of wave, now, where are we?
Q: (L) Is this a riddle?
A: From, not of.
Q: (L) You speak from the crest of the wave? (T) Are you riding the wave?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You said in another reading that you were 6 thousand miles...
A: Window of transmission.
Q: (L) We are certainly hoping that you are going to make all of this plain and clear...
A: It is.
Q: (L) Well, can you help us poor 2 strand DNA creatures to understand this?
A: How far away is Cassiopaea?
Q: (L) Do we need specific distances?
A: General is okay.
Q: (L) So, if we just find the general distances... and does each of these star clusters represent a general area of the wave?
A: Each represents locator in space time. You can judge speed and ETA by cross referencing distance with publishing dates and these messages from us.

And we should stop and note right here that this "US" means 6th density, not any specific group, though the concept that is being suggested is that of constant cycling disbursement, and that we are supposed to understand something very subtle from this exchange.


Q: (L) I got it! You mean that YOU are the Arcturians, the Pleiadians, and now you are the "Cassiopaeans" because you "are where you are"! And you are riding the wave. Is this wave a straight line connecting all these constellations?
A: Circuitous or cyclical route.
Q: (L) So, is it like a spiral?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So we really need to set up a map so we can draw it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When we speak from Orion we are "Orions". When from Pleiades, we are "Pleiadian", and so on.
Q: (L) So, all of these channeled books you have mentioned are coming from the same basic source, through different channels, that they are able to connect with because of their different positions in space time and preparation level of the channels, is that correct?
A: Close. We have given you a Wave crest locator. We are from where we are and speak. Get it?
Q: (L) You are the wave crest?
A: We are Marciniak's Pleiadians. We are where we are.
Q: (T) So, you are not really Cassiopaeans from the Constellation Cassiopeia?
A: We are Transient Passengers.

 
Q: (L) It's fun for who to see how much we can access?
A: All. Challenges are fun. Where do you think the limit of your mind is?
Q: (L) Where?
A: We asked you.
Q: (L) Well, I guess there is no limit.
A: If there is no limit, then what is the difference between your own mind and everything else?
Q: (L) Well, I guess there is no difference if all is ultimately one.
A: Right. And when two things each have absolutely no limits, they are precisely the same thing.

This point is emphasized in another way:

Q: (T) Are we talking about the creator god as in the Pleiadians?
A: Not Pleiadians. Prime Creator.
Q: (T) What is the difference between the Prime Creator and "God?"
A: None. As long as you exist, you are of the Prime Creator.

In the following instance, as at the time of the talk to the MUFON group, Terry was still, like the rest of us, struggling with the linear concept that simply would not embrace what the Cassiopaeans were trying to convey:

Q: (T) Since you are riding this wave, in order to communicate, since the wave is what you are using to focus this contact with, and you are, whoever you may be at whatever point the wave is, you gave Barbara Marciniak information under the name "Pleiadians". You are telling us this. Have you told the other people, such as Barbara Marciniak, that you are contacting other people?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, Barbara may not know that the contacts are the same only under a different name?
A: No. Progressive information. Also, system is like mosaic.
Q: (L) Does this mean that different people get different pieces of the mosaic?
A: Yes.

Q: (Susy) Are you from the same group as the Pleiadians?
A: Same. When at Pleiades, Pleiadians, when at Cassiopaea, Cassiopaeans. Light beings.
Q: (Susy) What kind of source are you?
A: 6th density.

And, as we all know, a mosaic is made up of many tiles which, only together, form a complete picture.

Light and darkness unify all densities.

Q: (L) Are there 6th density Orions known as Transient Passengers?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So there are Transient Passengers that are STO as well as STS?
A: TP is "wanderer".
Q: (L) And what is a wanderer?
A: TP.
Q: (L) Well, the idea of the Wanderers, according to the Ra Material, is 4th or 5th density beings that have chosen to come back into 3rd density to help us. Would that be the same kind of Wanderer?
A: 5th or 6th density.

Q: (L) So, there are STS and STO at 6th density which balance? And they are just there, they exist?
A: Reflection for balance.

Q: (L) Are the 6th density Orions, also known as Transient Passengers, are they the same TPs that have been referred to as the ones who genetically engineered us or put us here?
A: Close. They are Wave riders.
Q: (L) Are those groups that ride the wave, is riding the wave part of the definition of Transient Passengers?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they like to ride this wave?
A: Is it "fun" for you to live on earth?
Q: (L) Well, I like living on earth a great deal, but I don't like pain and suffering, and I don't like man's inhumanity to man and I don't like to see other people suffer.
A: Do you live on earth for amusement?
Q: (L) I would like to live on Earth for amusement but I haven't had a whole heck of a lot of laughs since I have been here this time. I would like to have a life on the planet where things were pleasant...
A: You misunderstood.
Q: (L) I see what you are saying. That's where they live because that's where they live.
A: Yes.
5  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Grandfather, Mother, God, Spirit, etc. on: February 22, 2004, 05:19:34
Has anyone heard about this strange concept, that Spirit wants to reunite with The Mother, and heal Her. And for that, It needs our help. The Mother was hurt by the Spirit. Lucipher and Grandfather are in the picture as well. The Mother is NOT the church.

Here is a site that explains it :

http://www.godchannel.com/navigator.html

The following « information » was channeled from « God »
on that site :

« (...) The spectrum of the Spirit Polarity goes from Lucifer on the extreme left to Ahriman on the extreme right, with your spirit and my loving Light, of course, in the center. Lucifer is warm, earthy, sweet and sexual, and often mean, brutish and demanding. Ahriman is cool, mental, astringent and rational, and quite detached and judgmental.

While Lucifer is sly, Ahriman is clever, and they both hate the Mother, but for different reasons. In a face to face battle, Ahriman will always outwit Lucifer, and yet Lucifer will sometimes win with sheer force of ill intent and 'dirty tricks'.

To reclaim your own spirit essence, first align your spirit here with me in the center of the spectrum. Here you can recognize both the good qualities as well as the problems with both ends of the spectrum. This is the place where you can reclaim your denials, and from which you'll successfully relate with your Desire/Mother essence. This is the place where the loving Light of Spirit connects with New Heart, Real Heart. These lessons and the channeling class will be helpful in finding your alignment. Also, the simple intention to do so will help bring you here quickly. »

Strange.

I don't feel like I can trust what is channeled there, yet I want to know what you guys think. Thanks.
6  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling John Gardner on: December 29, 2003, 22:11:54
THIS THREAD IS
for
CONVERSATION TRANSCRIPTS WITH JOHN GARDNER THE NOVELIST -  NOT THE CREATER OF JAMES BOND BUT THE OTHER ONE
and
QUESTIONS FOR HIM


This thread has been created so that members can have clear access to the INFORMATION provided by John Gardner in answer to any questions submitted by any Astral Pulse member, which will be (are you ahead of me ?) addressed by me in person who will be, I hope, in direct communication with the help of some kind of reticuli via a telepathic "hook-up" provided by some guide somewhere, at certain 'arranged times' on a more or less regular basis, based on my mood and Gardner's and God's will.

This "Friendly"-Talking with Gardner opens up new frontiers for information about writer's block, the art of fiction, the craft of writing novels, the benefits or relevance of literature, etc. And this is especially needed at this time due to the fact that so many people want to write, and less and less people want to read. There have been so many books written on the craft of novel writing that it's hard to differentiate between the good and the meek. Now you can put YOUR questions forward and get the "facts" for you to discuss here on the Astral Pulse.

Common sense dictates that you should never just 'believe' what you read, but instead should discuss it with an open positive approach.  So, feel free to start your own thread if you like on any topic John Gardner give answers to - but you should do that in the Writers corner. Questions to John Gardner should be posted here, but discussion over his answers should be posted in the other section. Thank you very much for your comprehension.

Because this is such an important opportunity for all to learn more, this thread should be made a 'sticky'.

All that I ask is... that members have an open mind with a positive approach.  So post whatever questions you like here for him - and I hope he will answer them through me !

ABOUT JOHN GARDNER THE NOVELIST

John C. Gardner was a poet, a novelist, a dramatist, a translator of medieval texts, and a creative writing teacher who was killed in 1982 at age 49 in a motorcycle accident. Gardner was raised just outside of Batavia , NY, attended school through grade 11 in Alexander, NY, and graduated from Batavia High School in 1951.  

He wrote three influential works on the art of writing : On Becoming a Novelist, The Art of Fiction, and On Moral Fiction. I read the first and last one. I own a copy of The Art of Fiction which I intend to read sometime in January. Many of his students, such as Raymond Carver and Charles Johnson, have had successful publishing careers.

He taught creative writing at many universities, among them Chico State, Bennington College, and SUNY-Binghamton.

His novels Grendel, The Sunlight Dialogues, and October Light are regarded as modern classics.

CHILL



7  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / ... on: September 15, 2003, 23:37:50
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8  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / PERSON WANTED !! NO MONETARY COMPENSATION ! on: September 15, 2003, 21:06:58

PERSON WANTED

We need someone impartial that will undertake a mission as a journalist – with the goal of providing us with a report.

REQUIREMENTS

- Rock-solid belief system

- Journalistic mindset (do not get emotionnally involved).

- Good writing skills (read On Writing Well – an excellent book on writing non-fiction).

YOUR MISSION

- Chat with Mayatnik on MSM. Sweet-talk him into assigning you a quote Pleiadian guide unqote. A quote Zeta unquote will do as well.
- Save on file all interactions with Mayatnik – you will need those to write your final report.
- Pretend to everyone (including the members of this forum) that you are acting in good faith. In other words, hide your true motives : your mission has to remain TOP CONFIDENTIAL until the end.
- DO NOT TRY TO contact the quote Pleiadian Guide unquote or quote Zeta unquote. PRETEND that you are hearing a voice.
- Befriend the devotees. Chat with Edi, Want Some Rice ?, Valérie, and whoever else. Act as needed so that they confide in you. Save every e-mail and chat sessions on file.
- Do not question, do not challenge – or rather minimally at the beginning as to not arouse suspicion.
- After 4 weeks of this (you can pretend that you have become a channeler by the third day or the end of the first week, you decide when the time is ripe), stop all communication (cyber communication), sit down and write your analysis.
- Change all the user names, as to protect the innocent.
- Deliver your report to this board.

As to make sure that no more then one person (or two let's say) undertakes the mission, please submit your application to me through e-mail.
9  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / A thought about Allanon on: September 08, 2003, 14:42:35

Maybe we should - well, that's only a suggestion - maybe we should all be nice to Allanon, or not say anything at all, no reply. I know that some of you have been nice. And that some of you have responded with anger - speaking from the heart, which is great, if you ask me.

Being 'nice' in my book is avoiding sarcastic remarks, a condescending attitude. Why ?

Because those people who are very 'hot' with Christ usually have a tendency to think that when they are persecuted they are closer to Jesus, because Jesus was mocked, whipped, condemned, crucified, and so forth, and the first Christians were persecuted (wrongly, I know). They might be right, they may be wrong, in feeling that the persecution means that they are closer to God, and that knocking on the doors of 'unsaved' souls, ot souls that are on the wrong path, is what is happening when people mock, laugh, and are sarcastic.

This has deep roots. When you are condescending toward him, moking him, I, for instance, happen to hear 'Satan-like laughing' in my head, I don't actually hear it, I am imagining it, and I sense that this is the sound that Allanon might hear. Might hear.

And this will make him more 'hot' (as opposed to most of us, who I think, are pretty lukewarms), which is not a bad thing in itself, but it will (I think : unfortnately) feed this complex of 'persecution' that I think Allanon feels. As if he had been warned that his 'mission' was to come here and meet with the lukewarm-toward-Christ members of these 'occultists' forums, where everyone seems to be ruled by all kinds of esoteric laws and their ego. All 'set in their ways' indeed. Aren't most people very 'set in their ways' and too 'grown-ups' in their mind, indeed ? Condescending remarks, and sugar-coated sarcasms are like Satan laughing at him.

Does that make any sense ?

I am not saying that he's not condescending himself. He is. He might very well be Mr Self-Righteousness. But you only provide a self-righteous miror back if you are condescending yourself. Try to look beyond and see that this guy has the best of intentions, and remember what I sayed about my christian 'persecution complex' theory.

[Smiley]
10  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / WHAT DO YOU DO ? on: August 11, 2003, 01:35:40
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11  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Q about a PICTURE on: July 20, 2003, 22:20:01


What do you sense when you look at this picture ?
12  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / OBE = an Hypnagogic Experience ? on: July 16, 2003, 19:04:03

I found the Astral Dynamic's chapter on Sleep Paralysis very interesting. His theory that the presence we feel while paralysed is no one but ourselves, our own projected self or 'double' sure seems to make sense of it all. And Robert Bruce's own experience seems to validate that theory.

How we perceive that presence depends on what we personnally consider 'scary' : a ghost, an 'evil' entity, the devil hismelf [}:)], or an alien [Tongue], or some religious or mystical character we believe in. For me, it's an evil entity.

Sleep paralysis gets its own scientifical explaination in many legit books. I must admit that since I have read on the subject of sleep paralysis from medical sources, a few years ago, I have no longer felt an evil presence in the room ! Which would tend to disprove Robert's theory perhapse. And also, the whole experience of sleep paralysis was a lot less frequent after reading about it. I have had before thousands and thousands of those scary experiences, all through adolescence and my early twenties.  

Some skeptics will tell you that the hypnagogic state (that state between being awake and falling sleep) can be a time of visual and auditory hallucination, for some people, espescially for narcolepsics. Sleep paralysis and what is perceived as an OBE can happen during that state. Most of what we perceive then (our real-time sight and our travelling outside or bodies) would then be 'reduced' to mere hallucinations.

The fact that, for me, an OBE can so easily turn into a lucid dream (some people might say that I am then projected into some 'astral plane') makes me doubt the experience very often, after it has happened.

Do some of you, no matter how real it has felt for you to LEAVE your body, doubt that their OBE is only a hpnagogic hallucination ? I don't mean to bash the experience. I just want to share my feelings...
13  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / The 'card' verification on: July 16, 2003, 16:35:25
Anyone has been able to successfully identify a card while OBEing, as suggested in the book Astral Dynamics ? (as verification of the reality of their experience).

I have not yet.

Thank you.
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Walls, windows, mirrors... on: July 16, 2003, 16:31:19
What is your experience while getting through them ?

I think I have a 'harder' time getting through mirrors and windows, then through plain walls, even brick walls...

Unfortunately it seems that when I go through certain walls, I automatically project into the astral plane : I leave the real-time zone to get into a dreamy world. Actually my obe might have turned into some kind of lucid dream, I don't know.

sad
15  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / ... on: July 16, 2003, 16:14:36


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16  The Astral Library / Welcome to Writers Corner! / A Caution To Writers on: July 19, 2004, 04:06:46
Hi MacTomb, great advice!

I thought that you had it in you, something about your writing, it's powerful yet simple - it seems simple. I agree that writing how-to books is counterproductive. Those books are not only serving the "devil" of procrastination, preventing us from writing. They are killing our "voice" too.

I enjoyed reading some of them though, and I think they were not too damaging.

'The War of Art' was one of them for me too Kiauma. But it describes the"professional" attitute toward writing. It's about resistance. There are forces we have to deal with. It does happen that resistance is the voice of wisdom, it tells us that we are not on the right path, but it is often the voice of 'Evil'.

What is helping me is to get in the 'groove', by selecting a particular music or doing something or reading something that puts me in contact with what I want to experience. Often, a one-hour nap in the afternoon will boost my imagination afterwards.

Other good books for encouragement were for me :
- On becoming a novelist (and yes it's a how-to-book as well, but the few recommendations worked for me - they were in total agreement with my style, with what I like).
- Walking on Alligators (not a how-to book, and not fluffy AT ALL).

Practice, practice, practice.

I write in French, and everyday I write at least 3 pages in French. Those are reflexions, notes on my current work, fantasies, dreams descriptions, grudges, complaints, etc.
17  World Cultures, Traditions and Religions / Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions! / Jesus' Limitations; A Threat to Faith? on: July 19, 2004, 01:52:01

Wow, Berzerk ! Your posts fill me with pleasure goose bumps!
Charm and wit and a incredible sense of humor ! I am glad you've joined the absence-of-party here !

Hi Mustardseed ! I give you a big hug if I may. I hope that life is very sweet with you this summer. I worked my but-t off on an essay called "Channelscience" in June, which is on-line, in French. You want to see it ? Pm me.

I still suffer from negs attachment, I think. I have never been sure about this. By the way, working on my essay gave me a lot of phyisical pain, part of which can be attributed to sitting down for extended periods of time in front of the computer, or standing up for hours in libraries, reading books. I hope that McArthur can help me. But I'd have to PM him about it. He knows nothing about this. Well, I think... isn't life complicated or what ? I pm-ed someone else, thinking it might be him, we'll see...
18  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Budo Shiso - Guidance For Our Time on: June 30, 2004, 19:25:38
quote:
Behind the mask, the entities known as "Zetas" are merely weaker entities - so weak they are incapable of maintaining solid form to the physical living without borrowing image strengthened from the shared concious mind of humanity. Their intentions vary from curiousity, pranks, parasiticism, to whatever base needs they may have. The more intelligent and less self-serving (to a point) entities have used more susceptible human minds to further propagate the strength of the "Zeta" image on the shared human conciousness. By making this image more solid, they themselves have a better vehicle for their means.


WOW Thanks!

FIRST QUESTION (about thought forms) : So does Budo Shiso say that the astral can also be a reflective sphere, where entities and thought-forms co-exist, where entities take on the shape of our beliefs, if they exist at all ? You say Zetas are very weak entities... is it possible for thought forms to interact with us ?
Pure thought-forms ?

SECOND QUESTION : Is the astral a reflecting sphere of the collective consciousness ? (if the "astral" exists)
19  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Budo Shiso - Guidance For Our Time on: June 30, 2004, 04:24:47
MacTombs you stated clearly your intent in your first post. NOw from now one, please play the game, it will turn out to be important I think. So if someone forgets to read it or it gets really big and people stop reading the first page, so be it. But play the game seriously though! As if you want people to beleive you now !

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MacTombs I know that you are REALLY in contact with a spirit now, but you don't want people to laugh at you or judge you, you are not even sure of yourself, as those words come from within you. I have been there! Trust me : this is your guide speaking. It's much less spectacular than one would expect channeling to be. There is usually no transe involved, no weird change in posture/voice, it's just like you speaking but with a wisdom that you do not possess.

My first question is : what are the Zetas ?
20  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling Osho on: April 28, 2004, 05:27:52
Amazon.ca Results total matches

We found no matches for "zen tarot" .  Below are results for "throat" .  If you prefer, you may try another search.
21  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!! on: April 21, 2004, 00:30:50
Hi Mustardseed

There were 3 very important days for me at school this semester.
2 projects and 3 days of shooting. The first project was a group effort, I had the last word (I was directing), but due to conflict with another person (the dop), I let the project slide from my hands, the result was so-so, but my own contribution was pretty good, and how I felt was great on those 2 days of shooting, I was very calm and extremely happy. I felt like this is what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

The last project was solo, and the result was wonderful. So good that some people now want me to make it into a bigger project in the fall, involving a group of people, more important resources.

God is behind it all : it was because of God that the result was so good you see, things happened, things were said, everything fell into place with great timing, it was a documentary where reality was greater than fiction.

People who saw the film were moved.

BUT I PRAYED SO MUCH beforehand. I was filming my father meeting his mother for the second time in about 4 years, his mother who suffers from Alzheimer disease. He ends up taking her to his home for an hour, where he lives with 4 cats and a real clutter.

Now there is a deadline to turn in projects for the next semester. I want to present a fiction project (which, if chosen, will be filmed in 35 mm and perhapse shown in film festivals around the world...) and a documentary. I can present both.

I had an idea for a fiction, but it wasn't good enough. I abandoned this idea. I am open to new ideas now. But I have only 9 days to find one and develop it, write the script, etc. I need a miracle.

As far as the documentary, I don't think that I can develop what has already been done with a group of people. It just won't get any better than that. It was fluke - God.

I've never had ambitions. I've had pride, but no 'projects', no ambitions.

Many people whom I like very much will present their own film ideas, only 3 fictions are chosen out of a potential 30 submissions, same with documentaries.

Pray for me.
22  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Zeta Project: Zeta conversations - and questions on: April 15, 2004, 02:57:18
Maybe the color of a shirt is a bad example. Because it's too down-to-earth. You and other channelers can get many pieces of information that can either be read somewhere else on the Web, or can't be verified, such as 'you were friends in another life', or things that are so vague, that you end up thinking : uhhh, so what's the substance here ?  

quote:
It would not prove that anything the aliens are trying to say is necessarily true.  Many people who do not want to make their own decisions might indeed start blindly trusting the channelers or aliens based on such so-called "proof", but this is not what any of us want.


ok, then. It's a case of 'if this resonates with you, believe it'.

Another problem is that when the information given is wrong or contradicts another piece of information, you say (maybe not you personnally but Mayatnik does) that it was meant to be like that.

How do you expect to gain any credibility like this ? It's quite unfortunate. As it is now, only the most naive have become followers of Mayatnik.

quote:
You really cannot ever actually prove anything.  There is a lot of scientific documentation that supports much of what has been said about the pole shift.  The scientific community has come to its own conclusions based on the physical evidence before the aliens began having these discussions.  To me, this would seem to indicate that blaming the aliens is unfair.


Oh come on. Nothing can be proven ? Tst-tst.

Orcher did not ask the Pleiadians to prove themselves, he did not ask them to pay him a visit in his courtyard. He asked for concrete, down-to-earth, verifiable information.

As the Pleidians have access to the Akashic records, for example, how hard can this be ? And how harmful can that be ? That will only get some people more interested in you, or prevent others to lose interest.

quote:
The ideas that are passed along from these beings are merely for people to think about - not to be taken blindly as "truth".


AND THE TRUTH SHALL BE KNOWN [Wink]
 
quote:
We have always said this.  There is a lot of information out there, of both channeled and scientific nature.  All we have ever asked is that people use their own hearts and minds to examine all of it, and then do what they feel is best.  I see no crime in this.  Thank you.


When you predict that there will be in a couple of years something happening that will kill 2/3 (or 1/3) of human beings, and that the pendulum plus a map can guide you to a safe place where you must go at that time, then no, that's no crime, but it's pretty irresponsible.
23  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / And the truth shall be known? - You'll see ? on: April 15, 2004, 02:35:43
Actually Orcher, if you've ever been chatting with Mayatnik - a friend of mine chatted for 2 months with him - you'd find out that whatever Mayatnik is channeling - if he does channel anything - is perfectly clueless.

Mayatnik practiced 'cold readings' on my friend, time and again, revealing him so-called channeled information, as the chat went along and from what my friend told him.

My friend's opinion is that Mayatnik did this very consciously because of the way he was 'fishing' for info and using it, talking in the name of Karek.

This being said, Mayatnik is very sincere. He really believes that he's on a supra-important mission. He has 'good' intentions.
24  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!! on: April 14, 2004, 23:00:16
Ex-teacher becomes bishop of the original church ?

The author has been ordained a bishop.
You must look at this Mustardseed :

http://www.lovewithoutend.com/ministry.htm

http://www.originalchurch.org/

What's that church about, really ?

Tuition for the Basic Ministry Course is $750 USD.  It includes the complete Home Study Course, the two-day commencement seminar, the ordination certificate, and the Doctor of Divinity degree and diploma.  All study materials (a $150 value!!!) -- including an autographed hardbound copy of “Love Without End... Jesus Speaks” -- are provided with your paid tuition.

For every 20 paid student enrollments, Spiritis Seminary will establish two revolving scholarships (intended to be replenished by the recipient for the future use of others).

Private sponsorships and contributions for additional scholarships are, of course, always welcome.

Source : http://www.originalchurch.org/seminary.htm

25  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!! on: April 14, 2004, 22:41:07
Cube asked an interesting question in the other thread, a question about adamantine. He says he's reading a book.... Title is
"Love without end [trademark symbol here], Jesus speaks"...

look at the channeler's site, lots of things to buy :
http://www.lovewithoutend.com/books/index.html

In that book it says that the the world is made out of particules of adamantine and the more loving one becomes the more powerful one gets at transforming those particules. Power of Love Meets Love of Power : very 'attractive' concept.

In the encyclopaedia, "adamantine" is an archaic word used either figuratively and/or poetically. Originally it meant : diamant. Often used in fantasy fiction. If you look for the word in google groups, you'll end up with a myriad of alt.games threads.

QUESTION FOR GOD :

- any comments on this channeler ? And on our thirst for power ?

I had a talk with myself today and I came out admitting that I would love to get some power over other people's destinies - no less. How much more powerful would someone wish to be ?

[Smiley]

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