Maybe just try leaving one card on its own somewhere, face up so you can see it without touching it. It would have to be somewhere high so you didn't see it by accident whilst you're in the physical. My theory is that maybe because you were interacting with the entire deck, you couldn't single out one particular card?

Hi everyone,

Does anybody have any accounts of been in focus 3? And if so, what validations have you carried out to confirm it to yourselves?

Just interested is all. 

Thanks.

It's a great site, I don't think I would have made this much progress without it. It's also a good place to sound off without people thinking you're crazy! 

I don't think there's any particular reason you didn't see yourself. Things aren't always as they appear in the physical once you get out into the RTZ. For instance, my house usually has different furniture, or doors that should be open are closed etc. Sometimes I think that maybe it's the way the house wad before we moved in, (an old lady died here who had lived all her life in our house). Anyway, sorry to be vague but I don't think there's any one reason for why things don't always look as they should. Some people on here describe it as reality fluctuations, but I don't really know why it is.
Maybe somebody will put me right, but I think that AP and OBE mean the same thing.
At least you seem to find it pretty easy, which is good. I've always had sleep paralysis as well, and have recently been able to use this to successfully project, we're pretty lucky.

Everything was labored as if gravity had increased

That's exactly what it was like for me the other day. I just forced myself to get up, and once away from my body moving was easy. 

Good luck! I'm sure it won't take you long to find your rhythm again. If I haven't played the guitar for a couple of months I sometimes struggle a little, but after a while it all comes flooding back. It's just that I'm a little rusty, I haven't forgotten. 

I've only just started out in all this really. I've had a few not very lucid OBE's, until Sunday morning that is when I was very lucid in the RTZ, and then I had another projection and used a mirror to phase into F2. All very exciting stuff, but the holy grail for me is reaching F3 and seeing for myself if I can gain some sort of an affirmation of life after death. If I manage an F2 projection soon I will definitely try the blind approach and report back on my experience.
 

Yes your quite right. Hopefully I can repeat the experiment soon 

I'll let you know if I do. 

I wouldn't call it a success, it's actually quite likely that you placed it face down by accident since it would not have been something you were in the habit of doing correctly.

You should do this test  a few more times, however, it would be interesting to see the results of repeat experiments!

I did place it face down by accident, I actually thought it was face up when I did it, that's why I was so surprised to find it was face down whilst in an obe, and in the physical. 

I have actually placed another card there now, (definitely face up!), I just hope it doesn't take another five months to obe again!!! 

 

Hi AJDIN,

Nothing really. I was having a lazy morning, so I whenever I woke up I thought I'd try to AP but most of the time I just fell beck to sleep. I've been having spontaneous sleep paralysis, (sometimes with vibrations) since I was about 10 or 11 but it hasn't happened in a while, and when it has I haven't been able to separate, (it used to scare me because I knew nothing about AP or OBE until I found this site)

Anyway, I just woke up all of a sudden with SP and vibrations, I then remembered what somebody on this site said about forcing yourself to move (rather than just imagining your floating, because that hasn't worked for me lately) and there I was, pulling myself up and out!
I had some vision problems at first but I managed to sort that out. Then I was going to go downstairs to see if I could see my wife when I suddenly remembered the card on the shelf.

The second one of that morning happened without any separation. I all of a sudden found myself out of a dream and stood on my stairs. I remember thinking, 'wow, I'm out again!' I then decided to go all they way down and jump into a mirror to see if I could find another world, which I did. But I knew that I was still within my own focus 2 and not on the astral proper, because I remember thinking about it when I was there. 

Hi everyone,

I had my first successful, very conscious OBE this morning, two in fact! There'a a lot to be said for attempting to OBE after you've already slept, this has worked great for me.

Once I was out, (in the RTZ) I remembered that I had placed a playing card face up on a high shelf in another bedroom about 5 months ago! I went to it and discovered that the card was actually face down. I thought to myself that this was not right, but I actually tried to pick it up and turn it over. I looked at the card very hard but it was like trying to focus on a book when your blind drunk. I remember thinking, 'this is difficult, I think it's the five of diamonds' but the pattern kept changing and swirling around.

Once I went back to my body, I immediately went to the shelf and retrieved the card, guess what....I actually had placed it face down by accident! It was the eight of diamonds not five, but that's pretty close considering I could not have actually picked up the physical card really.

Do you think it was a coincidence, or did I somehow physically perceive the card?

Thanks for reading!  

I too started out on this path by reading Erin's articles, and I must admit that I also shared some of the same fears. But what I have come to learn so far happens to be the same as what the majority of people on here have already told you. Just relax and go with it, nothing can hurt you.
I must admit I did find Erin's pages rather fantastical, and upon reaching the Astral Pulse I discovered a more practical and believable theory, that been the 'Frank Kepler Resource'. -

http://www.astralpulse.com/Frankel.HTML

Check it out, but remember this is still only ones persons view on it all and nothing has been proven.

Good luck! 

 

Yeah Franks description of Focus 4 was quite impressive to be honest. It is nothing short of mind blowing.
To be honest, I think Focus 5 would be sheer nothing.  Everything had to start from nothing.  Before anything was created, there was nothing.  Religious people may say that Focus 5 is God himself.  But even if there is an almighty creator, then even the almighty creator had to be created at some point. So Focus 5 would stretch way beyond that. 

Frank says that Focus 4 has always been. There is no start and there is no end in the way that we perceive things. So in fact it was never created and it will not end, it is perpetual.