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126  Astral Chat / Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Looking for answers on: March 04, 2017, 05:20:58

You asked 'Why is this happening to me?' and 'How can I develop this more?'

I will offer a few suggestions and you are welcome to take them or leave them, in part or whole; after all, this is an individual journey for each of us; the answers must ultimately be found within ourselves.

Maybe you decided to incarnate at this time in order to further develop these abilities and share their benefit with others when needed. Learning is a life-long process and beyond, and at multiple levels, Physical world and now the Non-Physical world as you are discovering...

It doesn't necessarily mean that you make a crusade out of this ability, you just develop the ability as you would any other that catches your interest and that you have a natural talent for. You add it to your repertoire, your skill-set.

A book that I discovered just last year that may give you some ideas and insight into 'Why me, why now, why here?' is by Dolores Cannon- The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth.

As to developing your skills, (other than Nameless' good advice to be open to your experiences) the best book I can currently recommend is by Kurt Leland- The Multi-Dimensional Human. This book focuses on the Phasing experience  and what Kurt describes as some twenty NP senses that can be developed and the exercises to do just that. You will likely recognize some as having already experienced them to some degree. This is the most intriguing information I have come across relating to our NP senses. He knows what he is talking about.

Hope that helps,

127  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Making Progress / New sensation? on: March 03, 2017, 06:45:29
What Nameless said is particularly true- that current phenomena are a bit new and unpredictable...many of us seem to be encountering new and varied experiences lately.

SCHMUSTIN,  your set of sensations is well described in Lumaza's thread on Symptoms and Signposts, in this same is a good variety indicating proximity to an exit. You need to simply allow the direction to develop and "go with the flow"...this also includes some testing on "fear" and "doubt" you hesitate or do you allow the process to continue? can get especially tricky and subtle during these times...nobody can give you a straight answer on what to do in this; this is an individual thing that you must work out for yourself. The "stretching" sensations are always a good thing, let them continue...don't disallow any sensation.

The rational thought blockage is a good sign that your consciousness is realizing that it needs to re-map itself in a way, like a re-write of a personal computer program. A consciousness crossroads, a Y in the road...which way will you choose? Rational thought reaches an abrupt end...what are you left with? What is your "feel" of the situation? A big part of the Non-Physical is your "feel" of it...incorporating that "feel" becomes part of your new consciousness paradigm...

I will add this- it is not a re-write of your Physical World Reality and life; rather it is an indication to look differently at your Non-Physical World and how you are going to approach it. It is like walking into a store where there is a first set of automatic doors and a second set of automatic doors and an air conditioning system that blows air upon your entrance to equalize the pressure and minimize the temperature loss within the store entrance. It is a temperature change and an air pressure change...all very suddenly...our first entrances to the NP can often feel like this; a little disconcerting.

It may not feel like progress at the moment, but trust me, it is...keep plowing ahead.

Fun, right?lol

128  Astral Chat / Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hi ! on: February 18, 2017, 05:28:11
Welcome to the Pulse, Tarun!

Have a wander around the forum and enjoy the information that is shared. Good people and lots of good ideas to jump into!
129  Astral Chat / Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: My Introduction on: February 10, 2017, 07:32:10
Welcome Shishi!

There are many good ideas to consider here, as well to add yours...have a look around and feel free to join in.

130  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Letting go of concerns involving the physical reality during transition... on: February 08, 2017, 07:47:18

In my opinion you are making progress but you may not recognize it or accept credit for what you have accomplished. Part of this conflict is that your progress is not equating with your expectations...that is okay, it is REALLY easy for our efforts to get de-railed at this early point, because we simply fail to recognize what IS progress in our experiences. There are dozens of distractions and mis-understandings that can happen at this point; I was de-railed by my own particular issues early on and I can often recognize it now by reading others' experiences.

Your 'weeks of setting your Intent' have actually resulted in your latest experience, once you relaxed and were not actually expecting anything. This is frequently how it works: we work, work, work...set our Intent multiple nights...get nothing...and then let it go out of frustration...and BANG it happens a day or two later...

In your case, you noticed some developing visuals...but lost it as Physical Reality (PR) issues intruded and some anxiety resulted.

I want you to realize this: Your Intent has worked! You are beginning the process of changing your Focus into the NP. It's just not quite happening in the manner your expectations have set; and this is a big issue that throws us off course early on; it demands the need for an agility of our consciousness to adjust to something new or unexpected.

Reading your earlier posts, I get the idea you are expecting the standard Etheric/RTZ exit where you float up and out of your body. That is a fine and valid form of OBE...but if you are getting visuals as opposed to  'Etheric' exit sensations, then you may be headed towards a Phasing type exit which will have little or no physical-like exit sensations; it will be a purely mental thing. So when you are at that crossroads, when you come to that Y in the road, only you can make that commitment...and this is where I say you need to GO WITH THE FLOW. Go with whatever direction the sensations take you; don't fight to force sensations that are not there. If you stay calm and let the visual develop and stabilize, at some point you can literally 'step' into it: that is Phasing.

The PR issues and the resulting anxiety have to be ignored. They are likely another 'test' to see just how committed you are to expanding your consciousness. This message should resonate within you understand just how subtle this testing of your 'will' is? It starts right here, right now...and it is serious. It will not kill you or harm you, but it will push your limits beyond what you might expect, certainly what you understand.

This is another Intent/affirmation that you can add to your nightly address: I leave behind all Physical Reality issues for now and know that I am safe and protected as I venture into the Non-Physical worlds.

Also read up on this so you have a further idea of the sensations out there:

Hope that helps. It is baby-steps at times; nothing wrong with that.

You are closer to your goal than you may realize.


131  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Started a lucid dream inside a dream! on: February 03, 2017, 02:05:13

I read your initial post and responded pretty late into the night- I failed to give a full and more complete interpretation which is what I intended.

I don't think you necessarily failed in that experience and the NP does not punish you for missing cues, clues and signs in a single event by blocking further OBEs; instead you are usually sent back to the same or a variation of the original simulation to try again.

A lack of OBEs can be for many and different reasons and we ALL get dry periods where despite our best efforts, we get nothing for a time. 1 reason can be that we are being re-directed to focus more fully on our Physical Reality situation -family/job/school- that sort of thing (as you mentioned in your own case). 2- after a particular OBE or NP experience, we may need some down time for 'processing' and certain internal and possibly energetic adjustments to occur. 3- Especially if related to a prior NP event, the NP may be waiting for us to make a conscious change in direction -this could even involve making a declaration to the NP of our Intent, our purpose, our sincerity and appreciation for our NP experiences.

Your experience of going to sleep in a dream, making a shift of consciousness into a different LD environment, recognizing the fact, then maintaining your awareness/lucidity as you shifted back into the original dream...this was an excellent demonstration of your NP mindset and shows good development and continuity. You may not have missed anything! This was possibly just a simulation to give you the experience of holding your awareness together through multiple shifts; a test of the continuity of your awareness. Once each shift was accomplished and recognized, that part of the simulation simply ended; finally, when you shifted back to the hay pile and flew off, the goal of the simulation was reached and so it ended. You might have extended the experience by not performing an action as dynamic as flying (that can often upset the script enough to end a simulation) but only you can determine that by re-tracing your exact thoughts -fear, doubt, confusion, distraction- any of these factors can sabotage an experience prematurely.

Experiences like this can often be unnecessarily discouraging because we are left unsure as to whether we accomplished the goal or missed something somewhere. Another form of test.

You and ileisou have asked similar questions, so I would suggest you read my comments  there as they may add more context to yours.

Here is one of my experiences that gives good examples of how I messed up in some simulations and missed some signals; and the great analysis I was given.

132  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: What does blackness in a lucid dream mean? on: February 03, 2017, 01:31:51
You are very welcome ileisou!

If you allow your Lucid Dream to unfold and develop on its' own, if you don't immediately force changes within the environment, you will likely find that that there is a story/a theme/a challenge that you should attempt to follow. Often you get no instructions, you have to proceed with the storyline until you realize the purpose of the simulation. Along the way you will get small tests, many of which you will only recognize afterwards. You will also be introduced to new abilities and given opportunities to demonstrate them.

And given a number of these experiences, you will probably be given that RTZ/Etheric exit experience, sort of thrown in as a bonus at some point.

Here is an experience that illustrates some of the ideas I have mentioned and the excellent advice I was given in interpretation of it. It begins with a Phasing exit, but the resulting environment is much like a LD environment.

133  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: What does blackness in a lucid dream mean? on: February 02, 2017, 10:11:47
In my opinion, you have already demonstrated more instinctive understanding than you realize you have. You 'know' that you can fly or pierce walls with your hands; no fear, no doubt...this is what I mean by instinctive NP (Non-Physical) knowledge. We all have some NP knowledge, some more than others; it can be developed and increased with repeated experiences and a little direction from others when we get lost. The problem is that we have no one to give us directions, so we remain stuck where we are.

That is partly why this forum is so valuable: the sharing of ideas and perspectives to help us get the car out of the ditch.

Ileisou, you need to shift your perspective. You are thinking of Astral Projection from a PR (Physical Reality) perspective. You are spending much of your effort in trying to have what is generally regarded as a RTZ or Etheric Projection, where you feel your 'energy' body float up from your physical body like a ghost and go floating around your bedroom, your house and your neighborhood. That is a perfectly valid and true form of projection but it is only one form and a somewhat limited one; there are others. Many of us start out with these types of projections, but we move on from them into other forms of AP (such as LDs). In your case, I think you have already moved ahead and are experiencing aspects of these other forms of AP; you just don't recognize or understand this fact and therefore you are stuck.

For those people who get this far it seems to be a fairly normal predicament. I have seen it with others and experienced it myself, to a degree. It is one of the first big lessons in demonstrating just how much your PR-based perspective needs to change...and it will not be the last time! lol

You have described a perfectly mature understanding of the opportunity that a Lucid Dream affords you. You know not to fool around and waste time, you have a clear Intention to turn it into an Astral adventure and exit your Physical body. The problem is that you are already 'out'; just not in the manner you were expecting!

At this point in your experience, your desire to have that RTZ/Etheric floating-out-of-the-body experience is moving backwards in the process, and you are setting up an internal conflict...a computer command that results in 'this does not compute'. Do you ask a kid in the 7th grade to go back and repeat the 3rd grade?

The fact that you are getting False Awakenings and alternate Lucid Dreams or the 'fight with the magnetic pull' is probably your higher self/inner self/guide/mentor/teacher trying to show you that you are already 'out' and that your continued efforts at a RTZ exit are pointless. I would compare it to starting your car in the morning and continuing to engage the starter when the car is already running.

You may have been expecting something else, but by accepting the idea that the 'fun and games' of the Lucid Dream world have to finally come to an end and that it is time to look for other challenges in the NP...well, you might have entered the NPR school system and it is now expecting you to learn some very basic ideas; this system seems to sharply curtail any further 'joy rides'. Each experience you will encounter will have aspects of fun, challenge, fear, and testing of your abilities. You can go to sleep with the Intent and expectation of a certain experience, but if you then find yourself in a LD with a different experience, you should accept it as a learning experience and 'go with the flow'...this will involve a combination of your rational skills and your instinctive skills and the ability to know when to use either one. Great fun! I screw up all the time!

Eventually, you realize that every NP experience is a learning experience, carefully designed, crafted and executed for each one of us. And probably everything in this world, as well...

The 'blackness'...

This is the essential experience that ties your other experiences together and tells me just where you are.

The 3 Dimensional Blackness, the Void-

You know it when you see it; you know it when you are is variously described as an infinitely deep blackness, other times like a huge underground cavern where you only suspect the walls are just out of sight. Some times just inky blackness, sometimes with a faint star field or points of light. There can be seen and/or you can 'feel' a certain texture to the darkness, almost velvet or a kind of 3 dimensional depth.

Some people have described it not as a blackness, but an incredible whiteness...IDK

I have read that it is the fundamental essence of the Universe/Multiverse, the basic un-defined essence that God/the Source uses to construct the various Realities. Maybe it is Dark Energy. I don't know except that it is very awe-inspiring on a very deep level within me whenever I am there. It is an incredibly calming place to spend time in, very healing.

The Void is also a kind of launch pad to take you anywhere you want to go; you only have to express your thought or Intent. It is like Square One. In that sense, it is also a very basic express a desire to dissolve the fabrication of a Lucid Dream, such as you did ileisou, and you are left with a clear sheet of paper, a blank computer screen...the Void...and its' lesson is asking you...okay, where would you like to go? The Multiverse is at your command...

You can ask a question within it and often get an answer, you can express an Intent, you can focus on a point of light or a section of the 'texture' that 'pulls' you and be taken to an adventure...or you can just hang out and relax like I did in my Fieldtrip experience until 'someone' reached out to me... wink

I hope that answers some questions and gets the car out of the ditch and back on the road. All you need to do is ask for what you want every night; they are now listening for you. Set your Intention, be polite and respectful of those who may be guiding you. You may get an experience that meets your Intention, but often 'they' will have something else in mind; be willing to accept that now.

And have fun!


134  Astral Chat / Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Introducing myself on: February 02, 2017, 08:33:37
Hello ileisou!

Your usage of English is much better than my Spanish, so I will keep it brief and just say

Bienvenido al foro!

There is much material and information to be found here on the forum. Use the search function to find information on certain terms or ideas.

Very few of us can manage direct exits from an awake state initially, myself included. I have far more success from early morning attempts or Lucid Dreams, so if you are proficient with becoming aware within a Lucid Dream then I would suggest that you concentrate your efforts there. A Lucid Dream is a perfectly valid form of Astral Projection; it is a re-focusing of your awareness away from this Physical Reality (PR) and into what we generally describe as Non-Physical Reality (NPR). What you do with it from there is your choice; how you define "where" you are becomes your next challenge. Is it "the Astral"? Or is it your personal Dreamspace? Do your adventures there have any significance or does this area merge into a more Collective Dreamspace at some point? Is that the Astral? Or is it all Astral? You can get pretty confused and frustrated in trying to figure out just where you are and completely miss the lessons that are available at that specific point.

Probably the first lesson to learn is to be ready to change your perspective, to shift to a new way of looking at or considering your awareness and where in Reality it is at any particular moment. In other words, be ready to leave behind all your Physical World ideas and perspectives. If you think about your Lucid Dreams, you already do this some times, often very instinctively.

Enough for a welcome, I will comment further in your next thread.

135  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Started a lucid dream inside a dream! on: February 01, 2017, 07:56:16

You stated that your experience of a 'dream within a dream' was from some years ago...I don't know if or how far your experiences have progressed from there, but I would suggest that that particular experience was possibly a very significant one, that indicated you were being subtly prompted to move into other areas for possible expansion. (this is why it's really good to write these experiences down- so that we can refer to them in the future).

I have only experienced going to sleep in a dream a couple times and both of them signaled transformative events; so that is a big alert, at least in my experience.

Flying is a big thrill for me as well, but the fact that your experience ended/shifted/changed shortly thereafter, could be a key indicator that you missed something, a signal that, had you taken it, would have continued the experience in a different direction; a test, a learning simulation, a challenge. It is likely normal that we initially miss these cues the first few times; they can be incredibly subtle.

Can you recall your exact thoughts just before you 'awakened' from the inner dream, back on the hay pile? What about just after that when you flew again, but then immediately awakened into Physical Reality? Your thoughts at each of these points are important and may lead you to understanding what signals you might have missed.

In my own experiences and many I have read of others, it appears that we are allowed great freedom to adventure and have fun (flying!) in the NP, but at some point we are expected to notice certain 'signals' that are introduced to lead us into various learning environments.

If you are interested in continuing your experiences, it might be helpful to keep these ideas in mind. For me, my experiences slowed to almost nothing for years until I recognized and accepted this next stage in my 'expansion'.

Just some thoughts to consider.

136  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: "the sweet spot" on: January 16, 2017, 10:43:46
If the link is gone, then the link is gone.

If you read back through the thread then you can put most of it together; LightBeam, Lionheart, Bedeekin and others added the essential details. This is primarily an early morning, post-sleep method where you search for the proper consciousness/awareness/framework of mind that is conducive to an "exit". It is fairly elusive, given my own experience...I only know it when I see it...

I think this form takes some prior experience...that way, when it appears (sometimes almost providentially) it is very see it, and jump at the chance (like I have described in some of my experiences)...

For those readers seeking techniques, please search the first and third boards in the highlighted BLUE threads; much to read there. grin
137  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Anyone visited me yesterday? on: January 16, 2017, 10:14:25
Hi Riddle,

Like Xanth says, congrats and a good description of an early projection. It's not the basic RTZ version; it had a little of other worlds involved.

You described well the varying nature of consciousness/awareness that can occur and the kind of mental contortions that can ensue. This is a good first step in realizing how different your NP awareness and rationalization can exist within a projection. With further experiences, a kind of consolidation of thinking/reacting occurs but other, more intriguing questions will present themselves, which requires further evolution, and will throw you sideways many times (what fun!); it becomes an exciting stretch and exercise of the mind.

The nature and quality of the projection seems dependent on any number of things: Your health, your state of consciousness (drugs/alcohol), your mood/attitude, amount of rest...add any number of other factors...the idea of "Intent" for any particular experience soon becomes fairly relevant...something to think about.

Laying down/sitting for meditation in order to project is like the most difficult thing to do, at least for me, and what I read of most others. The rest of us have to do it through LDs or some form of napping or WBTB techniques such as you described. The only problem with this is when some form of Sleep Paralysis intrudes. That's not to say SP is bad; I actually like it when it occurs, because I usually understand what is happening. Problem is...all sorts of auditory and visual hallucinations can occur...and they can be takes some repeated exposures to learn how to handle them, and I will admit, they still catch me out from time to time. Maybe they are just part of the personal, natural SP terrain and background. Maybe they are some form of NP/Astral test; IDK, but they still occur for me from time to time (and honestly, I do feel that I am experienced enough that if these SP horrifics are still occurring for me, then they must be some kind of automatic thing...kind of like my house alarm going off if I don't hit the keypad soon enough...).

I think that the most difficult idea about the SP phenomenon is to understand that it is not just audio/visual hallucinations you have to deal with; the worst and more subtle threat is the "feeling" aspect, the "sense" of EVIL and Darkness and Hostility that you can feel directed towards you.  When you experience this for the first few times, you have NO DOUBT that the Devil or some equivalent Evil force has targeted you for is quite simply, that powerful. The first few times, I forced myself awake in a near-screaming panic. It took ten-plus years and a few more episodes before I realized that if it was going to kill me, then it would have already. So I finally began to change my perspective about it, and to find a way to come to terms with it. Eventually I realized it was also one available entry-point to Projection.

Riddle, the "black presence", the "dark entity"...I can't say for sure, because ultimately, this is your experience...but I strongly suggest this is a SP energetic phenomenon...a thought-form some might say, that is from your own subconscious...I have had plenty of my, don't get fixated on it and be happy that you had a really cool NP experience and you are learning from it!  Many of the early experiences start out doggy and foggy...that's ok. Nicely done! 5 stars!

138  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Battling my own demons.... on: January 03, 2017, 09:26:14
Welcome to the Pulse, vince!

The first one or two NP experiences can be quite extraordinary and confusing, hard for anybody to put into a category. They are experiences that are purely personal and (my opinion only) fairly normal in their chaotic nature. I had them; and I have read of others with similar events.

Don't fail because of fear. You experience situations every night as you sleep...none of this has ever killed you or injured you.

You don't need any special preparations or incantations...just go to bed with the Intent that you will remember your dreams; then write them down in the morning, even if it is just a few trigger words. If you really earnestly desire to pursue this, then that is all you have to do to begin. Part of it comes naturally; part of it takes some dedicated effort.

Ask for the experiences and they will be given.
139  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: No astral sight on: December 30, 2016, 09:05:25
This a fairly common issue with early experiencers; it was for me as well when I reintroduced myself to the practice after a long layoff in my late twenties/early thirties.

There can be various reasons, one of which Nameless explained, and that has to do with Intent. Your understanding of the concept of Intent and how it is crucial to making progress with AP is something that will need to develop and evolve over time. Each time you make a "projection" attempt or go to sleep with the idea of having a LD/AP, you need to start by forming a coherent and concise message of Intent that you express/communicate to your subconscious/inner self/whatever. This is also an express communication to whatever outside "guidance" may be available to you.

The simplest example of this is telling yourself every night to remember your dreams.

Another and possibly more common reason for NPR blindness is overcome simply with a few more experiences and the problem seems to solve itself. Your ability to "see" in the NPR is a new skill and an ability that has to develop over time. Keep in mind that you are not using your physical eyes. But since that is your only frame of reference up to this point, you haven't yet figured out how or what NPR sense you need to activate. You are actually using a new part of your mind, maybe the part that makes you think you are "seeing" when you dream...
These new, undeveloped NPR senses also relate to how you move, how you feel objects, whether you can smell or taste or hear or talk...those are all Physical Reality concepts. Your new NPR senses will gradually develop and get you the information but initially your PR-based mind is going to twist itself into various pretzel shapes as you try to convert this information into something that feels like it is coming through the usual PR-based 5 senses.

The real fun begins when you start opening up to the new NPR sensory concepts available to you, like 360 degree vision or simultaneous multiple perspective...

So "clarity now!" or "vision now!" shows good situational awareness actually and works for some (it didn't for me either the first two times tongue) or a modification of your pre-induction mission statement (your Intent) as Nameless suggested, may help. Either way, I think with a few more successful exits you will find things should "clear up" for you. grin
140  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Still Knocking at the Door on: December 28, 2016, 08:26:14
Thank you all for the replies. The Physical Reality Fear Checks are incredible moments...they somehow never lose their "immediacy of the instant"...what fun!

Another aspect that some of these experiences finally crystallized for me, something Lumaza mentioned on another forum, is the idea that the environment is sometimes created around us, realtime, as we move through it. For me, this has become increasingly apparent over the years. Earlier, I didn't pay attention to it, barely noticed it most of the time. It caused me a bit of confusion but I never really dwelled on it.

During some experiences, my environment appears 100% complete; everywhere I look I see a contiguous environment or scenery. However other times, especially when I am moving quickly or flying, I notice a resistance to raising my head or looking ahead of me, and closer consideration shows that at the edge of my vision, the environment is literally "building" ahead of me, it is being created as I move into it. At eye level, I perceive a full technicolor environment, but beyond and ahead of that is a white-ish, grey-ish kind of immaterialness that quickly takes form as I move into it. In this experience, as I flew upward out of the canyon, I felt a resistance to looking upward and at the edge of my field of vision, I could see the new environment forming at the edges, like viewing a wavefront of visual creation...and it gradually changed from canyon walls to the castle structure.

This begs an intriguing question: Who or what is creating this developing environment? My subconscious/superconscious by itself? Or is this part of unfolding NP training directed by others?

In the end it may be a minor question to ask, but it is an interesting fact to notice as it occurs.
141  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Still Knocking at the Door on: December 27, 2016, 09:40:56
December 21, 2016

2016 has been quite a drought of NP experiences for me and I understand for others as well; I have been really hungry for something, anything!

It was one of those nights where I tossed and turned all night long, and never fell asleep. Fortunately, I didn't have to go into work until later that day, so I slept in (or tried to...). 6am, 7, 8, 9...nothing...geez, I was just hoping for an hour or two at this point...finally around 10 I suppose, I fell into sleep...

I came aware within a Lucid Dream almost immediately, it felt like. I was ecstatic for 2 reasons: One, I was once again extremely lucid in the NP and two, I knew my physical body was finally getting some rest; a twofer!! Despite my physical exhaustion, I was amazed at how super-charged my consciousness felt!

As I came aware, I realized that I was the passenger in a Corvette convertible with the top down and we were racing through the desert at very high speed. Also as I came aware, I was talking to the driver (whom I didn't recognize), trying to convince him/her to slow down as we were approaching a cliff and headed for a huge Thelma and Louise ending. As my awareness hit peak, I realized the futility of talking, that I could take control at any point and so I decided to bail out, "exit stage right" and take my chances under my own control.

I hit the ground and tumbled onto my back and was still sliding at high speed for the canyon edge. I realized that I could easily arrest my slide but was also intrigued by letting the action continue. I had a moment of third-person perspective where I could see my sliding self and the canyon that I would fall into. This was followed by a moment of vertigo and fear for my Physical self (What if this is real?!). I shut down the fear and slid backwards off the cliff into a swan dive and fell about two hundred feet where I reversed to a standing position and stabilized myself mid-air. I was feeling an incredible thrill of exhilaration! It had been SO long since I was flying!

I started a vertical ascent back up out of the canyon at increasing speed, just loving the rush of flying. I had no other Intent at this point other than enjoying the flying. As I flew higher, I noticed the canyon walls had morphed into the walls of an incredibly tall castle-like structure; I was passing multiple levels of terraces and balconies. Pretty quickly, I noticed that I had company; another flyer was pacing me about ten feet away, partly obscured at times by the exterior structures of the castle. I felt a pull to land at the next terrace, so I did. My shadow flyer landed silently a few feet away. I can't say that it was a friendly welcome. He said nothing and looked rather dismissively at me. He was tall, thin and rather gaunt, his face a pale, grayish-blue, black shoulder-length hair, dressed all in black with a long black cape. I was still completely-charged up, in too good of a mood, and offered my hand and a grinning hello! He offered his hand in a fairly limp handshake which disappointed me a bit. Was this guy my own mental creation? (it didn't feel like it) Was he disappointed with me, was I some kind of annoyance? I pushed those thoughts aside; I was in too good of a mood...

Dark guy turned abruptly and walked inside from the terrace. I followed. We came into an interior room and I saw someone disappearing behind a false wall at the far end of the room. I suspected that was the entrance that I was looking for (now my Intent to visit the Astral Proper was beginning to surface). The thought occurred to me to just make for the entrance, but I thought better of it and to be as respectful as possible.

Now, two women and a man walked in and everyone began talking. Their faces were a bit fuzzy, kind of shifting. The second time that I looked at the man, he resembled my father, but I felt no connection, so I figured this was a distraction test. The two women were telepathically engaged in conversation that didn't concern me, so I paid them no further attention-another distraction. I turned to the dark guy and messaged a telepathic request to move into and tour the Afterlife regions. He looked at me as if he had received the message, but instead turned to the man and began a telepathic conversation with him. I could discern the conversation between the two of them and it was pointedly obvious that they were ignoring my presence. I didn't get mad; I didn't get frustrated; I was still in such a great mood for just being in the NP!  I broadcast a thought to the dark guy that was unmistakable- I know that you understand me. You know why I am here and what I want-. This was met with the briefest recognition and then a return to their conversation. I thought again that I could just make for the hidden entrance, but I still felt the obligation to follow a certain decorum. I thought for a moment to formulate the most specific request that would convey my sincerity, understanding and respect...

And then some noise from the Physical world intruded, some noise which was impossible to ignore...a trash truck was making its weekly pass down my street...airbrakes squeaking and whooshing, trashcans being banged and clanged around...

I gritted my teeth and kept it in context: I had been back to the NP, dived off a cliff, flown around, met some new friends lol, and gotten maybe an hour's worth of sleep in the process!

142  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Use of drugs and herbs in AP on: December 20, 2016, 10:10:06
A perfect choice as an example Phalanx!

The alcohol-induced bed-spins may be the easiest and most straight-forward exit technique for an OBE, other than maybe a knock over the head...

The bed-spins also are a prime display of the drug-induced lack of control that follows. You are along for the ride and can exert NO control.

For this and the other reasons as offered by Phalanx, DR and SweetDream, it is best to learn this on your own without the chemicals.

I know the temptation is always there; in quiet periods, I get tempted myself to look for some help. The truth may be that early on it is your gradual progression in the learning of the art that is required; later blocks are usually discovered to lie elsewhere, within areas that need to be cleared up for other but necessary reasons. I just found a new one myself, so the question relates for me as well, thanks.
143  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Spirit guides on: December 16, 2016, 08:21:50
Within my own experience and research, the issue of contacting our individual spiritual guide(s) can develop in one or more ways: A very direct, first-person involvement...or what seems to be more common, an indirect method where dreams, visions and downloads can occur. Don't just expect that the translation has to happen automatically; it may take a few days or weeks or months and even requiring some active meditative attempts.

The method of contact from "our" side seems relatively easy...just be in a receptive, meditative, relaxed state and put forth the request for contact or to ask a really is as simple as that. The "quality" of the intent or request may need some adjusting, but if the Intent is pure, the request should always get through. With that said, the nature of the response is purely an individual will be of a nature and quality designed for you only. It may be a voice directly responding; it may be in the form of an immediate vision; it may be in the form of a dream later in the night or a few nights later. The symbolism may be obviously and immediately apparent or it may take some time for the translation to come through, possibly through one or more meditative periods. (This is what happened for me in my Fieldtrip experience which took two years to come through, much to my surprise)

The truth is that you may not get an immediate or recognizable response; if so, don't be discouraged. If you are sincere in your effort, then be assured that the message has gotten through. Keep sending the message and eventually the response will come through in a manner that you will recognize. They have much more subtle ways of responding to us than what we might expect on a conscious level. All of this is designed to help in our learning. This teaching method is incredible.

144  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: A couple strange experiences while sleeping on: December 03, 2016, 08:14:37
Welcome to the Pulse!

Ultimately, these experiences are unique to each of us and dependent on our individual interpretations. With that said, there are certain common factors that occur, especially early in our development.

Your first experience reads like some Sleep Paralysis (blackness + can't wake up) and some hypnogogic noise (loud static buzzing) which also happens to be a good exit sensation as well. It is fairly normal to experience these and similar sensations several times as a sort of preparation for a complete exit. Just do your best to remain calm and follow whatever sensations present themselves next time. Generally, you don't have to do anything except to not interfere and just allow the sensations to expand/increase or possibly change into something else. In this case, it might have felt like you were stalled out, at a point where all motion had this case, a slight amount of intent may be required to get things into motion, just an intent or a thought that expresses 'I want to have an OBE' may get things moving. It is a very subtle mental push as too much active thought will likely end the takes some experimenting. Have complete confidence in your safety and go with the flow.

The second experience, I am not exactly sure, your interpretation of it is important to understanding it. Very possibly, you were seeing an environment that, given some time to stabilize, you might have been able to phase or directly transition into it. This is what we call Phasing. Again, it is entirely normal for the scene to remain unstable the first several times until it finally disintegrates. Once again, the key is to remain calm and just observe the scene with a certain degree of detachment or un-emotion and wait for it to stabilize to the point where you feel a natural attraction to being "pulled" mentally into the scene.

Each of these experiences is offering you a different form of OBE. Be open to trying them both.

You have been reading/talking/thinking about OBEs or something else has occurred to bring these experiences into your awareness recently. Any ideas as to what it is?
145  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Doctor Strange on: November 13, 2016, 06:57:40
I first encountered Dr. Strange in Marvel Comics in the late '60s so I guess that was actually my first introduction to the AP, lol. Thank you Stan Lee!
146  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Your Children and their Dreams on: October 30, 2016, 10:16:43
LightBeam, I had the 'scared of the dark and nightlight' thing as well. My experiences stalled out around the age of 15 and only sporadically showed every several years after that for the next  thirty years until I actively began properly seeking new experiences. i think you are exactly right about Physical Reality pretty much shutting out our experiences as we grow out of childhood.

So what jump-started your experiences at 20-something?
147  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Your Children and their Dreams on: October 29, 2016, 09:35:46
Lumaza and Nameless-

Thank you both for your replies and insights into this subject; I hope some others will chime in.

Lumaza, I also had a variety of SP symptoms and exit sensations that captured my interest in the middle of the night, and yes, sometimes they terrified me. I pretty quickly learned that if it hadn't killed me the first time, I would probably survive the next time, so that calmed me down a bit.

Nameless, I had the childhood nightmares as well and I figured they were pretty much normal. As I grew older, the frequency of nightmares seemed to naturally reduce, from maybe ten a year, progressively down to two or three per year in my teens. Maybe the numbers were fifteen or twenty at an early age, depending on how you might qualify a nightmare, but the frequency noticeably reduced the older I grew. In amongst the normal dreams and crappy nightmares were the more remarkable LDs and NP experiences, these became pretty noticeable but obviously with some overlap among them all.

I understand and mostly agree with your idea of the soft touch or 'kids glove' approach to inquiring about your kids' dreams; certainly being open to THEIR questions; but also I think they are much more resilient and durable than we remember to give them credit for, so I think we could push a little. I am hesitant to write that because I am not a parent myself, but I sure think that I remember being a Of course, it is a personal decision, unique to each of us and each child we are considering, so I just put the idea out there. Maybe, like certain genetic traits the NP 'gene' jumps in a generational fashion, so we could be calling on deaf ears; I will admit that I just don't know. I just think how much it would have helped me to have someone to bounce these ideas off, especially in my childhood.

That is a beautiful memory about your daughter, Nameless, speaking to friends in a strange language; I've only read about that in the Dolores Cannon books and a few others. It is interesting, just in the 3 posts shared here, the incredible variety of NP experiences we and our children are having...

Where are our NP experiences happening? That is a tough question to get even general agreement on. The etheric plane/RTZ is one 'focus' that early projectors experience, to give it a name/label. It may be a close frequency to the 'physical' but it can include a differing variety of elements or overlays and these may be very subconsciously thought-responsive. As I wrote in my OP, my experience with this particular focus goes back to my childhood and I can definitely recognize its 'atmosphere'. My childhood experiences also included or often transitioned into more vivid, full-Technicolor environments. These experiences are more in the category of Astral or Mental environments that are defined by the Theosophical tradition. These then move deeper into the formless environments that some of us have briefly experienced:the Causal and Buddhic Planes. Monroe gave all of these specific numerical Focus level designations, from Focus 3, 10, 12, 15 to Focus 21 to 27, 35 and beyond. Frank Kepple simplified them all into 4 Focus levels...which also works for me.

Nameless, if most of your early and current experiences were in 'full color', feeling nearly 100% 'physical' or even the exact opposite- total 'lightness of being', to see what your mother was doing in the house, then I think you were likely experiencing at the Astral or Mental Plane levels; especially given the clairvoyant nature of some of your experiences. You may have simply by-passed the Etheric/RTZ experiences. Again, I look at these as provisional categories, just some generic locations in order to reference our experiences.

148  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Your Children and their Dreams on: October 28, 2016, 08:17:25
Anyone who comes to the study of the subjects of Astral Projection, Out of Body Experiences or Non-Physical Reality should soon realize that a great deal of experiential understanding can be gained by the study of dreams and the entrance into NPR that they can give us.

The first series of our nightly dreams are usually what we call "housecleaning", the sorting out of the previous days' normal activity-these are necessary but mostly unremarkable. The later series of dreams are where we tackle longer-standing issues which have much deeper significance for our mental health and spiritual growth. The stuff of these later dreams are thrown up by our subconscious and are symbolic and metaphorical. As adults, if we apply ourselves to analyzing our dreams, we can help ourselves in myriad ways: understanding relationships; resolving conflict issues; increasing awareness, lucidity and our NP mindset; moving into lucid dreaming and the lessons offered by simulations...just to name a few. The dreams were always there, like little movies running in the background; but we largely ignored them. The lesson-plan was there all along as well, waiting for us to pay attention and once we did the program went into motion and we actually begin to see a progression of sorts.

So what about our children? Why should it be any different for them? As I look back and remember my own childhood dreams, I now realize that there were a lot of NP experiences mixed in with them. Other than knowing my NP experiences were somehow notably different from my regular dreams, I had no better understanding of what was going on. When I tried sharing these with my parents all I received were blank stares and the explanation that they were largely meaningless. Even at the age of 8 I knew better, but I had no one to help me with interpretation or context. That is largely true with the general culture in the USA, with some exceptions I'm sure. And probably true with most cultures in the modern world.

So what about your children or the children you may one day be a parent to? Do you or will you make it a point to regularly discuss your child's dreams? The potential of their dreams and NP experiences may far exceed what we are capable of. Considering this, their spiritual growth can be tremendously advanced beyond our own.

You may even find that your child is presently stuck/stalled out/blocked in a current dream or repeating experience, that upon interpretation turns out to be more than just a dream, rather an OBE or a deeper NP experience. I point this out because it happened to me many times. Here on the Pulse, we discuss the difficulties in understanding OBEs and various exit sensations, and even astral tests and lessons. These events don't just occur for adults exclusively, they can and probably do occur for many children, especially in the last 20 years or so with the idea of more advanced souls and Star Children being born. I don't pretend to know the full truth of this but if more spiritually-gifted children are coming among us, they might benefit from our help early on in their development in understanding their nighttime experiences.

Based on my experiences, I now realize that a lesson-plan and various tests were presented to me as young as age 5, that I distinctly remember. These tests were of a very simple and general nature, but still mirror the tests adults must work through in their early OBE development, involving ideas such as understanding movement, location, overcoming fear and confusion, and one of the really important ones- the application of Intent. As the next several years passed for me, my experiences expanded and the tests became appropriately more complex.

One caution that I want to stress and a primary motivation for writing this piece is that a child can get stuck in an experience. I had a few, but I will only mention one in detail a bit later. It was a repeating experience that I couldn't figure out and it went from being disturbing to frightening to traumatic over the course of several days. If this test pushed me up to the edge of my limits then it succeeded, and frankly I'm still bothered by it a little. It made that much of an impression on me. Maybe it was designed to make such a forceful impression on me that I would never forget it. Maybe it helped to propel my interest in exploring the true nature of consciousness; which I certainly did from about the age of 8.

My experience and research supports the provisional belief that some form of teaching and guidance begins to occur when we make a firm, sincere commitment to expand our consciousness. The testing can begin in childhood and likely continues for life, and obviously beyond. Initially they are probably just looking for a response, a spike in lucidity, a blip on their radar. If they get nothing, then we are left to wander within our self-generated, non-lucid dreams. If they do get a response, then they begin to apply further tests and assist us in expanding our consciousness as far as we can follow.

Nearly all of my NP adventures as a child came about as a result of raising my awareness in a dream. Mostly this happened naturally and instinctively. The majority were 'flying dreams' that could probably be categorized as etheric/RTZ events; I didn't know of such concepts back then. Most of the time I could fly easily, like Superman. Other times, I learned to deal with limitations, influences from prior dreams and applying Intent. Sometimes I flew in a sitting position which likely carried over from a dream about racecars, etc. It felt kind of stupid, but I couldn't straighten out, lol. Sometimes I would find myself in a great dark field and despite wanting to fly, I couldn't get off the ground; flapping my arms might get me ten feet in the air. A few times, the best I could manage was some 2 hundred yard jumps like the Incredible Hulk (that was pretty cool in its own way). The etheric/RTZ OBEs also included some nightly excursions wandering around my house while everyone was sleeping and incapable of being aroused. These particular NP experiences became very easy to recognize by the feel of the environment: you can 'feel' the density of the atmosphere, the 'slowness' of it; like being underwater sometimes, a good bit lighter during others. That is the etheric/RTZ. These experiences occurred for me between the ages of 6-14.

The one seriously rough experience that I want to relate happened when I was 4,5 or 6. I want to mention it because I can imagine that a fair number of kids might fall into this trap because I think it happens in one of the first NP environments that can cause extreme confusion: the etheric/RTZ. My situation was very simple: I found myself stuck in a corner. The floor and two walls were dark grey; the lighting was dim and as I think back on it, the atmosphere was kind of dense, like the etheric. The walls and floor were uniform and indistinct and seemed to stretch off into a dark and infinite distance. I remember having that thought and it magnified into an overwhelming fear and claustrophobia of sorts. I also felt a kind of gravity or force that gently but irresistibly pressed me into the corner and my face up against the wall. With great effort I could work my way a few feet across the floor, but each time I was inexorably pulled back, sliding up against the wall and my face gently pressed back into it. For what felt like the first hour or two, it was a disturbing but interesting problem. After that a terrible fright set in and I spent what felt like the rest of the night there. The next night I found myself in the same situation. I cried and screamed but no help came and I couldn't figure out how to resolve it. The level of desperation was off the scale. In the morning I couldn't even form the words to describe it to my mother. This went on for at least 4 nights and I can't remember how it resolved, whether I figured out a solution or someone ended it for me. I just remember not wanting to go to bed at night and return to that hell.

The likely answer finally occurred to me earlier this year, fifty years later. I was probably floating in the etheric/RTZ environment of my bedroom, probably up near the ceiling and the smooth walls, no doubt disoriented by the lack of reference points. If anyone has more than a few experiences with the etheric/RTZ then you likely know about the gentle 'gravity' that is sometimes present; that is probably the force that kept pushing me back into the corner.

In retrospect a simple thing, a simple misunderstanding.

What dreams may come...

Feel free to add ideas.

149  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Whats and whys of astral restrictions on: October 26, 2016, 07:46:34
A typically excellent reply from Lumaza that offers insights on several levels which should resonate with different people, in different ways...a key aspect of its' function.

I will try and add a few variations, based on my experience.

First off, Thaomas, you point out some significant insights from your own experience which I think may be recognizable to many "experiencers"; so thank you for some excellent questions.

There is the separation between what you think SHOULD BE possible versus what actually IS possible in the NPR. I went through this process and it was a new understanding of how my expectations needed to change.

When I was a child, I was able to fly around the neighborhood, into the Earth and through it, even out into the stars...but not all my excursions were "free-will". I got put into tests of various sorts. I didn't always recognize it at the time, but I do now.

My understanding now is that once you learn to shift your Focus, to Phase or go OBE...they let you play around for awhile, but then you are put into a lesson-plan, literally into "school" are limited in your exercise of your will/intent, and expected to pay close attention to your immediate environment and understand the lesson it is trying to teach you. And when you are missing the point of the lesson, it gets foggy and you get kicked out; experience over.

At this point, negative intent is definitely banned; you want to destroy things?...nope, not allowed.

They/your Higher Self/whomever, return you to square have to figure out simple things like Where am I?, How would I leave this place? What is up/ what is down? Then you get some tests on your emotions, beginning with the best of all...lust/sex. It can be very frustrating getting caught and stalled out at various points along the way; it certainly was for me. Sometimes it was just stupidly simple what the issue was...and I was angry over not being given better hints at the solution. But I will say this: the hints will be there, and those hints figure very distinctly within your psyche; so it is up to you to figure out.

The lack of awareness/the lack of intellect is still something I am coming to terms with; a topic I wanted to open discussion on, all by itself. Part of the "subdued awareness" is a condition the instructors force upon us in order to observe our instinctive nature in responding to a situation; I have encountered this several times, although I mostly don't recognize it at the time. It took advice and hints from both Szaxx and Lumaza to get me to think about this and the further ramifications...

The lack of intellect may also indicate the actual awareness that will be available to us when we transition/die. If that is the case, then I have serious concerns; and therefore wonder at the possibly supreme importance of doing as much as we can while still in PR, in developing our individual NPR mindset/personality.

Maybe something to think about...

150  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Is there such a thing as a non-physical world? on: October 23, 2016, 06:04:46
Agreed as to the existence of 'structure' and 'organization' and a 'ruleset'.

That was nicely expressed LightBeam- I also sense that we are within a possibly infinite sea of consciousness, aware of multiple contact points and slowly expanding that perspective through our experiences. Over the last several years, I have been introduced to several new ways to be aware of these contact points: Imprints, knowing, telepathy on more than a few levels, bi-location...

The appearance of structure seems to emerge different from PR in the variability of environments, energy-based and highly thought-responsive and the conformance to rulesets that supersede that of PR but still retain limitations as in personal areas versus consensus areas. The similarity of so many of our experiences lends credence to the idea of structure, even though we are likely far from fully understanding it much less describing it through language.

The idea of organization currently means for me the co-ordination of experiences/lessons with some kind of guides/teachers/instructors. They may be independent consciousnesses or just aspects of my higher self or larger soul...the exact definition is not important to me, I am obviously being taught many things, or 'remembering' as Lumaza rightly puts it. And since some form of graduated instruction is taking place, then I think it is reasonable that the organization continues well beyond this; what else would it be? Randomness? Although it sure feels like chaos theory predominates at times, lol.

Finally, some kind of 'ruleset' does exist, maybe our PR-based physics is a sub-set of the NP one. The NP ruleset certainly gives you more free-reign within the NP environments, you just have to be fearless and use it. You can fly, you can pass through walls or just lean against them; it is your choice so long as you understand it is all energy. What you do have to learn is when certain actions are allowed and when they are not.

Great discussion, great thoughts all around.
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