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51  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: November 30, 2017, 05:03:36
Yes Szaxx, I think that I have gleaned several ideas from this experience that are possibly stretching my boundaries. Thanks to everyone’s thoughtful suggestions, I have been able to consider this experience from multiple perspectives and each offers stepping stones to new insights for me.

1- Form versus Function- In our earliest experiences, we are just trying to hold on and not end the experience prematurely; we look around desperately for as many details as we can remember. As our experiences begin to last for longer periods, we begin to see patterns and symbolism in the events and details of what occurs. Some of this is no doubt important, other times not so much; the difficulty and challenge is learning just what IS NOT important which is almost as significant as learning what IS important.
   For me, beginning about three years ago, I had stabilized my experiences enough that I could also take an occasional look-around and wonder just where in the NP I was, and whether that may be an important fact to know. Recently, an additional idea has occurred to me- that the details of an experience are important primarily to me, of course, but that I should also try to pay attention to the ‘feel’ of a place in order to possibly understand the ‘function’ of the particular environment; having a good idea of the function may, in turn, assist me in dealing with the details.

So, in Scene 1 as I off-loaded from a bus with several others (possibly other Dreamers), even in a subdued awareness, I was aware that this was likely a Simulation. The situation of an auto auction was a familiar one for me, so maybe it was just to put me in a comfortable environment. The auction ended almost immediately, so I have no other explanation for it except that the orange car caught my attention, possibly signaling my level of Dream Awareness (#6 in my scale) and possibly a ‘transactional’ quality to the experience going forward.

In Scene 2, the incredibly high staircase to my left almost reached into the clouds. My initial NP confidence in being able to climb it was tempered by the fact of its ‘fairy-tale’ nature. Then my partner/guide said a flat- “No way.” And that decided it for me. I instinctively knew to consider another way. The tunnels were dark and descending- no good. With no other options, I instinctively manifested a ‘middle way’ and that worked.

I initially thought the ‘function’ of this environment was to challenge my finding a way back to the parking lots/Transition Areas. Since we didn’t end up there, rather the test moved into a third phase, maybe the function was something else. Given Szaxx’s hints, I think this was a test in my being too confident in thinking I could go anywhere in the NP with impunity. Now, I don’t suffer from such over-confidence that I think I can kick down any and all doors; at the proper times I think I show proper respect. With that said, if my guide hadn’t subtly cautioned me, I likely would have headed up the staircase...and probably gotten spanked badly for it. So, thanks be to my low level, instinctive awareness, lol.

In Scene 3a, I completely missed the ‘function’ of it, even though it is a scenario I have been looking forward to (meeting an Instructor as a waitress in a diner). I did manage to slog my way through parts of the menu, but still got distracted by the details. Still, I must have done enough to set the stage for Scene 3b and make the transition.

Scene 3b- I recognized the hospital environment, but the ‘retrieval’ idea didn’t occur to me. Possibly the message that I telepathed her way made enough impression that the little guy(s) could go to work. The sister/little brother duo may be something different from the Astral Surgical Team; I seem to vaguely remember them from childhood days. Szaxx, the ‘good luck’ image is indeed an old one, and possible, but the surgical garb remains a stronger image/feel for me.


A couple further thoughts-

Szaxx wrote that, “The better we are at controlling our own mind and limiting the intent behind reacting to whatever appears is key to gaining a new ability.”

You have a wonderful way of presaging these events for me sometimes Szaxx, maybe a few weeks early on this one, lol. I won’t go into the unglorified details of just how it came about but a few days ago, I got introduced to a new ability, and a recognition of a new mindset. The mindset involved how a high level Intent can result in an extreme level of Determination, which can in turn, bring on a new ability, not simply from need, but from absolute requirement, and in an instant.
  So, when you make someone disappear, is it good etiquette to ‘define’ a place for them to go?

Finally, and this is the big take-away:

Szaxx, you pointed out that ‘high awareness’ leaves us more prone to distractions, so maybe they force ‘subdued awareness’ upon us in order to minimize distractions. I agree with that but will add another idea, that within subdued awareness our Intent is planted much deeper and imbedded in a much more permanent and solid fashion.

You began describing the process in one of your replies: We start with an Intent to project in some fashion, then we shift that Intent to maintaining/stabilizing the experience, including Intents to avoid Fear, Confusion, Excitement, Sexual Urge, etc.. Then the necessary Intents shift into movement and navigation, noticing signals, communication, recognizing environments and situational experiences (Simulations). The tests begin and a whole new level of Intents regarding confusion, excitement, frustration, confidence, etc. ensue. New abilities emerge at any point within this continuum. As our experiences move deeper, our ability to offer service of some kind may become more apparent and the importance of implantation of certain Intents becomes paramount. It is a progressive process. The next Intent does not replace the prior Intent, it builds upon it; they are all there, the substratum of our NP mindset. The subdued awareness seems a perfect process for this.

In my case, it seems pretty apparent that I need to work on some ‘retrieval’ affirmations, just as I have done with most of the previous Intents.
52  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: November 28, 2017, 03:57:51

Thank you for that excellent insight! That is, I’m sure, part of the percept I was missing, a kind of 30,000 foot view. I had not considered it from that vantage. I’m still unsure of the purpose of Scene 1, except maybe to have the auction suggest a familiar situation (I spent a number of years attending auto auctions) and maybe suggest that this would be somehow ‘transactional’. Scene 2 offered 2 exit routes and yes, I took control and manifested a 3rd route. Scene 3 offered me a multitude of menu choices which confused the issue a bit, and I was stuck between choosing a 5 or a 6; then I got distracted a bit by actually being able to read some of the menu and trying to pencil in a the server helped me complete my decision. In the final scene, I did give up control, I guess, because I wasn’t presented with any obvious choices and my lucidity was too low to realize that maybe she required retrieval. This fact may indicate what Szaxx was hinting at, about what might be called a ‘progression of Intents’ that needs, in my case, to be updated.  (Low level awareness forces a much deeper implantation of these key Intents...hmmm)

Illuman said-

“The whole sense of community is amazing. If we are all one like I believe most of us here understand or believe then posting a thread and having a conversation about it really is an inner dialogue with one’s self. Like asking yourself for a different perspective on something so you can condense it into a more comprehensible form for yourself.  (In turn for many other parts of yourself as you post it and share it with other selves)

Another wonderful insight and beautifully characterized! And exactly the purpose we are hoping for. Thank you

Szaxx, I’ll respond in a day or so.
53  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: November 16, 2017, 02:34:49
It sounds like you have reached a new level. Sadly, we don't often get flags waving or crowds cheering to celebrate the event...we just sort of have to realize it for ourselves. This one I remember and the emotional kick is very appreciated, because it usually comes after a long, discouraging drought of 'progress'...which you have now emerged from.

New experiences, new sensations, new circumstances of awareness...these are the signs to look for.

Lumaza gave you a good description of the necessary attitude going forward now -be like Swiss Cheese and let the new sensations, emotions and thoughts flow through you for awhile, just take it all in, without too much consideration for now of what it all means; you will sort it out later. You have entered a period of just experiencing. Have fun, be confused and enjoy. Go with the flow and trust your instinct.

Depending on your theories as to how the NPR actually functions, one or more things may have occurred to get you to the next level:

You are gradually increasing your consciousness within your Dreaming Body.
You have managed to activate a higher chakra.
You have maneuvered your Focus to a new chakra.
You have activated your awareness within your etheric or lower astral body.
In the Castaneda paradigm, you have shifted your 'point of attention'.

Those are several ideas; I happen to like to incorporate them all into my own personal theory; you can work out your own. Either way, it is all fun and wonderful and mystifying. Well done and keep on!


54  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: November 14, 2017, 02:26:24

Reply #11/November 10

That was a great experience; you did exactly what I suggested in an earlier set your Intent, then you 'let go' and fell asleep. Then you became lucid within a dream. This, just in itself, was a significant accomplishment. Now the symbology of the 'large estate', the circular driveway, the fountain in the ignored the importance of that and began to walk away; so the dream introduced something to try to re-awaken you (to kick your awareness back up a notch)- the car drove by and you wondered at recognizing the driver...still not enough, you kept walking and so the car blew up! How good is it when they try to get your attention by blowing sh*t up?!!

That blew you back to the Physical, where you had a chance to reconsider how to get back to the NPR. You didn't manage it despite trying but that's okay; it's the experience and the effort that is important.

Working out the symbology here is a personal journey for you. Some expressions are somewhat universal, but again, you have to work out this very personal communication for yourself.

Great experience! Well done!
55  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: First Conscious Astral Projection Experience /welcoming song for the deceased on: November 14, 2017, 02:10:29

My condolences, as well.

The only idea I wish to add to the excellent conversation you are having with Lumaza is this:

It is a common idea, and one that I also experienced, that our early OBEs are somehow 'powered' by the sacral or root chakra; the entire 'chakra theory' being something you either wish to consider or not. This promotes a very strong and noticeable sexual arousal in the physical body and that energy often carries over into our early Non-Physical experiences. Do not try to shut it down or turn it off; just recognize that it is there and likely providing the initial energetic impetus but also 'coloring' your NP experience to some degree. You figure out a way to manage it.

Eventually, according to theory (and my personal experience) the energetic impulse for your OBEs evolves into other chakras, typically the Heart or Solar Plexus chakra, and once that becomes your power center, you begin to notice an issue with heartbeat and breathing...again, this is all normal. Disruptive, but normal.

Good work.
56  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Vibration/or like a buzsaw buzzing on: November 01, 2017, 03:23:32
Then it may not technically be Sleep Paralysis, but a close variation. The Hypnogogia occurs at times where you are in what’s called a Mind Awake/Body Asleep state and this may be preceding SP or following SP, so your experience may be outside the statistical norm, but nonetheless valid.

Sometimes you can physically move during Hypnogogia and transient OBE exit sensations; this will tend to disrupt the experience, so you need to minimize this tendency if you wish to allow the experience to continue and develop.

Seeing through your closed eyes at this point is usually considered a form of ‘etheric sight’ and not related to the 3rd eye (astral) that generally comes later (given the idea that this is just one theory of looking at the experience).

As to your missing posts, I can’t explain that.
57  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: October 31, 2017, 05:17:46
With a hat tip to the One Who Shall Not Be Named, this is a link to the 'Astral Surgical Team'-

In my experience, my first impression was older sister/younger brother, putting the raincoat on backwards...but he was a chubby little dude who reminded me of Spanky from the Little Rascals, with some very 'adult' attitude and knowing. It could be one or the other, I just don't know; if I had to choose, it would be my mis-interpretation of the AST. But then again, based on that link, they stick with 'etheric surgery' IDK. I just calls 'em as I see's 'em. rolleyes

Edit- My mistake- That link indicates that they don’t work in the ‘etheric’, but rather the ‘lower astral’, which actually adds a bit of credence to where I encountered them.


Thank you for those insights! I had been thinking the last several years that an individual needing 'retrieval' was SO physically-focused that it was our still PR-tinged, inherent frequency/radiation that enabled them to recognize and respond to us. But your point about an aspect of our empathy and willingness to help may be an additional factor in this. Yes, maybe so.

Maybe the fact of our still being close to that 'empathic wavelength' both allows us to be recognized by them, but at the same time, puts us in danger of losing emotional control both for our self and the retrieval situation at hand.


Also, thank you for the clues and nuances! In the last year, I have come to have greater confidence and trust in both my NP and lower-level NP awareness. The difficult part is that, at the same time, I feel like I am also learning better to 'navigate', as Leland might put it, the surrounding areas of the Dream NP...and that fact leads to another category of distractions, lol. So, more than a few Intents or themes begin to compete for primacy at any new entrance to the NP: Where am I in relation to 'everything else'; Is there a specific direction/action which may lead to higher awareness?; Should I be recognizing a new Intent/mission being provided?

A year ago, I was concentrating on figuring out just where I was in the NP; I have definitely gained a greater, although still imperfect, sense of that. At the same time I was beginning to recognize the various forms of transport taking me to these different areas of experience. Then it was recognizing how changes in elevation related to the level of my awareness: Going up in a lift/elevator, walking up steps or up a hill, especially into bright sunlight...all symbolic of moving higher in awareness; moving downward into darkness, just the opposite.

Adding in to all that, I still have to be open to the requirement that this may be a retrieval...

58  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Paddle to the Sea - 1 Week Challenge on: October 28, 2017, 04:56:04
I wonder if the 'gorge' is the same one I saw in my shower several months ago? 500 foot tall peaks?

Lumaza, so why do you alternate between keeping an eye on a submarine versus a boat?

You guys sound like you're having such fun with this concept, I may have to give it a try!

59  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: October 28, 2017, 04:43:18

Perhaps that's deliberate. Perhaps they know better about these things. But...but...perhaps they don't. Perhaps they're fumbling around just as much as we do. I think there is a tendency in AP/OBE/Dreaming circles to assume that "guides" have infinite knowledge at their fingertips. Why do we assume this? They may have knowledge about things we don't, but they're not supergods.

This whole 'dream character' business is my current puzzle. What did the surgical astral team require of you? I've always thought they need living persons because the dead one can't see them until they accept they are/might be dead. But surely there's a much simpler or streamlined way of getting us to do that without all these daft tests and hoops they make us go through beforehand.

[/quote]These are great insights and exactly what I was looking for. You are not disillusioned nor off on a tangent. These are great, reasoned questions that sometimes take me seconds to ask, then again sometimes months...

If it is NP training then maybe it is sometimes imperfect. The trouble with that is how the Hell should I know that?! My current theory is that it is all training at a lower NP mental level, the better to condition my NP mind.

Then again if it does involve an actual encounter with a BST-Bound spirit (a retrieval attempt), and it is not successful, then what's the harm? They are still lost in a sense, so what is one more fleeting delusional encounter, if I failed in my rescue attempt? I have a personal trouble with that concept in this context but maybe that is the reality?

'Gymnastics' was absolutely the 'moment' of learning there...a message singularly expressed for me. A lot of depth in that visual.

Thank you both.
60  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: DevilDogDogma's Experiences on: October 25, 2017, 05:38:16

It is understandable that emotion and excitement overtake you the first few times you get to this point. Next time work to remain calm and let the experience unfold as it will; roll with the shifts. Trust that you are NP and safe. The experience will take you deeper and further.
Nicely done.

Fun, huh?

61  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Being able to project only by focusing on breathing. How is that possible? on: October 23, 2017, 07:28:28
superman, you already understand that there are many methods to AP. You have already realized a few methods.

Why we get stuck at this point can be for several reasons: various types of fear or a lack of proper need to have a clear idea of what experience you are aiming for...

If you have had many flying or exciting OBEs before, then they may be looking for a more serious commitment now...

This is an eventual choice that has to be made...

62  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: New perspectives on intimacy in dreams on: October 20, 2017, 05:31:16
It appears that many of us have (had) various degrees of difficulty with the sex issue, myself included. I think that there are several variations off the central issue, that may pertain to some but not others.

I wonder that the sexual desire response is part of what I read as the "Big Three" emotions that we have to learn to properly control in order to gain access to 'deeper/higher' levels of the Non-Physical Realms; it certainly seems to be confirmed in much of the literature. These "Big Three" emotions consist of Fear, then Sexual Desire, then Anger in its various forms...(maybe beginning with impatience or frustration). I have just finished a book on Dream Yoga as well as a second read-through of Kurt Leland's The Unanswered Question, both of which put heavy reliance into the importance of "purging" these 3 emotions as much as possible while still in the Physical Realm, in order to minimize our possible mis-perceptions and distractions in the Afterlife. The question of 'purging' and its possible importance to our efforts is a topic for another discussion.

The Fear impulse is encountered almost immediately, as Lumaza pointed out, in the inability to feel secure in 'just letting go' and letting your NP focus take you away from the Physical. The Fear impulse also rears its ugly head rather quickly in most early Sleep Paralysis episodes. Once you are in a NP environment, any confusion or mis-interpretation of a situation can also result in the Fear impulse being activated. Step by step, this all takes time to overcome and gain control. And just about the time you are getting control of your Fear, the Sexual impulse shows up!

It is just my speculation, but my experience and my reading seems to confirm that the Sexual impulse may be strongly increased by the idea of an 'etheric' OBE being somewhat powered by activation of the Root/Sacral Chakra, at least during an initial period of etheric explorations. As our experiences progress, possibly into what is the astral body, this 'powering' appears to transfer into the Heart Chakra area and later to the Throat or Brow/3rd Eye. I can only speak from my own experiences, but as my OBEs moved from RTZ/etheric, I noticed a significant lessening in Root activation and sexual excitement, and more excitation of the Heart area (the rapid heartbeat/the chest pressure).

Now- This is the central issue I wished to introduce an idea about- ThaomasOfGrey asks the very reasonable question about why he seems to be 'stuck' in his experiences by the Sex issue? Is it an 'either/or' proposition of...let's just say 'astral promiscuity'? Can he or can't he? Should he or shouldn't he? Is it a moral issue, either personal or communal?

My point is, and my suggestion is that this may be the wrong question. The question may be about your ability to display control of these 3 basic human emotions. Simply put, the NP doesn't allow you to move beyond a certain point until you've shown a certain degree of mastery over these emotions; for instance, they see no point in letting you run around the astral getting freaked out (Fear) by everything; or trying to have (Sex) with every entity you run into; or getting into hostile confrontations, thinking everything has to be a fight (Anger). Add subtleties and stir...

I was fortunate enough to stumble onto the answer of the Sexual impulse issue early on while reading Monroe's first book 'Journeys...', because he had a frustrating difficulty with this. Leland also appears to have had some difficulty with it, as have some notable explorers here at the Pulse. I solved the issue only several years ago and almost by accident; but then I realized the answer. And the answer isn't a permanent one. Like repeating Fear tests, the NP seems to throw each of these tests at us from time to time, maybe like pop-quizzes, lol. And I still fail from time to time.

The answer, I think, is something Stillwater alluded to- maybe... The Middle Way.

It's not an either/or question; there is a third option, a subtle distinction, but nonetheless a significant one. You don't accept the sex but you also don't deny it; you choose to defer.

Sex would be great but maybe another time; just not now; I have other plans.

In my experience, making this choice alters the current situation without shutting it down and allows the experience to continue in another direction.

63  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Selski's Journal on: October 06, 2017, 07:42:48
Love the stories Selski!

#98 I can comment on...

Many of my very low-level awareness dreams deal with a degree of frustration in trying to locate things in various environments, mostly houses or buildings which seem familiar, but either the environment or the 'thing' to be located is continually morphing or changing beyond my ability to keep up with it, hence a certain frustration.

With regard to #98, I had this dream back in June-

Early morning, 3 dreams in succession, I forgot the first one and the third was also somehow lost...the second went like this-

I was in a hotel, primarily the lobby area, very fancy and plush, looking for something...very low level awareness...I marched from one end of the lobby to the other, not finding what I expected and growing more frustrated...

At some point, I passed a woman sitting on a couch with a leopard resting next to her. As I turned back to re-trace my steps, the leopard bit me on my left arm and we stood there, immobile, staring at one another. I had a moment of fear but then realized I was NP; there was a bit of pain which startled me; but I was stuck...dealing with these incongruities..

I stared at the leopard , the moment not shaking me, and sent forth a feeling of warmth and's bite relaxed for a moment.

This resulted in the leopard somehow increasing in size my entire torso and head was within its mouth, its fangs gently but firmly biting into my back below my shoulder blades and the front teeth dug in beneath my rib-cage... this did cause me a bit of concern, a bit of physical concern but also something more energetic...

I did the only thing that the NP has taught me as a last resort, and that was to communicate as much 'love' as I was capable of at the moment...and the 12 foot tall leopard released its' bite on me...and I awoke...


64  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: October 05, 2017, 05:22:35
SCHMUSTIN, you are quite welcome! Thank you for the kind words and I am gratified that some of what I can share may be of benefit to your endeavors.

Okay, so you are continuing to set your 'intent' for dream recall and keeping a journal when appropriate; that is all good.

They do let you fly around and have fun for awhile...but eventually they do expect you to settle down and get to work for the 'greater community', at least that was MY take on it.

Another aspect to consider is the fact that you do have a family to take care of, and presumably, a day job. These should be your over-riding priorities and will necessarily re-schedule your NP activities. The key is in finding a balance.

When I read back over your earlier posts, it is clear that you have experienced a broad spectrum of hypnogogic and 'exit' sensations. Whether you recognize it now or sometime later, this is a great wealth of information and experience that you now already have. It does appear to be relatively normal that many people at this point hit a roadblock of sorts and a scarcity of experiences. That does happen from time to time. The reasons could be many, and some have been discussed. I hit similar roadblocks of nearly a year, at times; just a bit frustrating...

Part of these delays may have to do with a kind of 'internal processing' that needs to take place. At times, I have experienced evidence of that, other times I am still left wondering...

If your 'true intent' is 90% soul development and 10% fun, then I really have no argument with that and I don't think that the NP is any stricter than that; after all they apparently enjoy enough good jokes at my expense, it seems lol! One rule of the NP appears to be a good appreciation for irony and puns...

After all, what is good about an infinite universe without room for a few good puns, jokes and ironic plot twists?

Another thought: Alcohol and drugs will kill or distort any possible experience, so stay away if you can; if not, then don't be surprised at the lack...

Just to clarify- When you do a short mantra or an affirmation; it should be present tense and declarative, no negative words allowed. No 'can't, won't, will not...', also nothing in the future tense- 'I will, I should...' your subconscious operates like a very basic computer and responds best to 'present tense' clear orders...nothing complex, just simple statements...

Also, you might need to let go the idea of having a direct, conscious projection for now. I tried unsuccessfully for 20 years to do that. I eventually realized that my initial successes were after short periods of sleep after giving myself affirmations/instructions. The direct projections only occurred later, and still somewhat inconsistently...
So after giving yourself instructions, let yourself fall asleep and expect those 'lucid, wake-up' experiences. Don't agitate, don't aggravate...just 'set your intent' and go to sleep...when the time is right, your 'higher self' will reward you with the appropriate experience. Trust in that.

A good default affirmation: "Please grant me the next experience that will benefit my spiritual growth."

Hope this helps.


65  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: October 04, 2017, 04:55:52
We discussed this a bit back in March; I withheld several ideas back then, not wanting to confuse the issue. Since your predicament remains, I will now offer them.

1- You have never mentioned a Dream Journal or your efforts to remember your dreams. This is a key component of initial NP awareness and a basic method for its development. If you are not putting in the time and effort to do this, then this could be a significant reason for lack of progress.

2- Communication to our Inner Selves - It may be that we have to reassure our relative safety to our subconscious self in order to gain a kind of 'permission'; it may also require a request to our higher self for a kind of permission to go exploring in the Non-Physical Realms. This can be simply done with nightly statements or short mantras 'asking for permission' or 'granting ourselves permission'...the individual language may be slightly different for each of us; we just have to explore this in our own unique ways.

3- A fundamental requirement MAY BE that at some initial point, we dedicate our spiritual education and evolution to the 'betterment of Mankind' or the idea of 'SERVICE' to our fellow sentient beings...

So, if your 'true' intent is just to experience the NP and OBE as a form of entertainment, a cool thing, a way to impress your friends, or a method to personal power, ie some selfish reason...then you will likely not be assisted, maybe even resisted by those on the other side.

I have read from many others and my own experience has confirmed that, at some point, an open and sincere declaration of my willingness to be part of, and to contribute to the progress of our general spiritual welfare is a proper and necessary thing.

This has to be sincere. 

66  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Vibration/or like a buzsaw buzzing on: September 27, 2017, 04:53:02
Hello skylark!

Welcome to the Pulse! Sorry we missed your initial post; it apparently disappeared into the black hole of a busy weekend.

Everything you describe is a classic Sleep Paralysis experience with Vibrations thrown in. There are a thousand variations to practically every sensation you describe, so don't get confused by trying to pin down just exactly what you felt; stick with the general categories of reported sensations.

SP can and does occur on either side of a dream; or more accurately, your awareness of it.

I would venture to say that you had been previously thinking about the OBE state, for whatever reason, and so your subconscious may have responded by making that particular awareness available to you. It is, usually, a kind of 'wake-up call'...then again, it does sort of happen by accident from time to time...

So, in your case, this might be a good start...

Read, enjoy, and ask any questions later...and again, welcome!
67  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: September 27, 2017, 04:33:13
Nameless and Selski-

Both of you, seem to me, a bit more successful in the final phase of what appear to be retrievals; I prefer reading your 'conclusions' rather than my own...but this one was maybe close enough, but I still left it feeling a bit 'incomplete'...

A little further consideration of the auction symbolism makes me think of how 'transactional' our life experiences are. So maybe that was the point of the auction discussion and imagery.


The lights going out, the power going off, the computer re-booting, a simple mis-placed keystroke...all of it serving to delete a response or post I had been working on...yeah, that happens... seems to be the territory we are traveling through...I just learned to accept the obvious synchrony...the NP editorial staff? grin
68  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: September 23, 2017, 05:47:37
Nameless, I always enjoy a toss-around of ideas with you; it's what I am looking any ideas from anyone is all a form of learning...

The subtle parts, the intricacies...they require more than one night's consideration...and often, more than a single post.

In such a low-level awareness experience, certain realizations occur real-time, but others do not. It is interesting to see the progress my NP personality is making. I feel a much greater confidence than even a year ago. In the final cafeteria scene, I still feel that I somehow came up short in helping her, but my instinctive awareness ran out of options.

It stinks in the sense that those moments are so brief, a few seconds at most...and then the scene fades...

To clarify, I did have these particular realizations-

In Scene 1, I did have a subtle awareness that the bus dropping us off at our destination was a sign of moving through the NP to an area of the Astral Dream Zone or a Simulation area. However, I was confused by why we were arriving at an auction once I realized it was just shutting down. The interesting bright orange car may have been a 'distraction test' or to keep my attention to the next phase of where we might be headed. Not sure. It may have been also an indicator of my level of dreaming (Level 6 according to K. Leland- sensing color and taste).

Scene 2 certainly gave me a choice of different paths. I was vaguely aware that my choices would dictate which way my awareness would go: Higher, lower, or a middle path...I wonder how different it would have been had I decided on the 'grand, narrow, staircase into the blue sky' versus the middle path I chose (which was in deference to my companion's comment [which calls for a whole different avenue of speculation]). Again, it seems like there is only a second or two to make the choice...indecision has taught me that it is an instant kick-out...

I think that I could have handled the huge number of stair-steps...the height-issue may have been a real problem.

Very frustrating. An instant feedback form of just have to 'go with the flow' as best you can at the time...and quickly...

The cafeteria scene I got lost in trying to understand the menu and missed out on the fact of an 'Instructor' showing up as a waitress...a scene within Leland's books and some of my favored StarGate episodes. I was stuck between two menu items, #5 and #6...two sub-sandwiches I liked, I was actually reading and understanding the ingredients, when these silly cardboard wafers were presented to us, complicating the scene (distractions).

So the waitress decided my choice for me...the scene shifted and I was dealing with what may have been a lost soul, stuck in her own personal BST. How was I supposed to know that, within an instant scene change?

Her thought that nothing of value was to be found from her numerous visits to auctions throughout her life brought forth a response from me that I communicated mentally as, " It is not the physical things that you gain from an auction but the value of what you derive from them; it is the experiences themselves, as well.".

I had maybe a 25% understanding that this was now a rescue/retrieval...again, from a very low-level of NP awareness...then her complaint morphed into a concern for my mother for a moment...I shook that off...and my only response could be, "How can I help you?"

Then the little guy stepped in...which was unexpected on my part...and I think that I got the translation screwed up initially. The 'gymnastics' was a mental form of question...not just for me, but anyone involved, including him...that is an indication of the dexterity involved...

Again and again and again...I just come away realizing how tricky, complicated, damnably frustrating and terribly wonderful this all is

69  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What do you think of Frank Kepple? on: September 23, 2017, 04:17:37
Kudos to Volgerle for an excellent abbreviated summary of FK's contributions. Frank offered a valuable condensation of the NP experience into 4 basic areas of Focus. His descriptions of NP experience were both confirming and illuminating.

Kudos especially to Xanth for putting in the time to gather all Frank's posts into one accessible source. I remember  wink
70  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / What's on the Menu for Tonight? on: September 22, 2017, 08:28:32
Often for me, a NP experience needs a few weeks to coalesce, to condense into a story I can relate in what feels a trustworthy and authentic form. Some aspects, some ideas just need additional time to sort of percolate; I don't wish to mislead or mis-interpret for the reader or myself; I have learned to trust the need for that delay and not to simply rush forward and post something new.

In this case, two realizations came forward: One about an old experience and one about this particular experience, possibly...

This experience-

August 24, 2017   Thursday-early morning-

Not much sleep last night, surprising by getting a final hour of sleep that I am treated to this low-awareness LD, a 3-part adventure.

Scene 1- Several of us are dropped off from a bus at a large outdoor auto auction. We make our way to the main auction block as I make conversation about how these kinds of auctions operate to the Indian/Asian fellow following me. He carries a staff (which vaguely makes me aware that he is a guide) and responds in a neutral manner to my commentary. The auction is ending just as we arrive at the auction block, a unique and beautiful bright orange US domestic convertible, circa 1950's with flared fenders is just exiting and driving back to the storage lots; it is especially appealing to me; I watch it closely as it is driven off into one of the storage lots.

Fade out/fade in  

Scene 2- With the auction ended, we are challenged with multiple paths back to the main parking lots. The first path is an incredible stone stairway that arcs high up into a clear blue sky, some three hundred steps upward and over, with a handrail to the left side but a terrible fall of hundreds of feet off to the right. The hundreds of steps doesn't bother me but the height is a minor issue. My 'guide' says no way to the distance or the height, so I search for alternatives. To my immediate right is a series of dark and descending tunnels, which I trust can get me to the parking lots (transition areas) but I instinctively know these can be troublesome with uncertain distractions and possibly get us lost. My mind rationalizes/creates an alternative and I immediately perceive a set of double-swinging doors, which I know will take us to the main atrium of the auction house, whereby we can simply walk out the "front door".

Fade out/fade in

Scene 3a- My 'guide' and I are now seated at a table in a cafeteria; the female server hands us menus but he seems unfamiliar so it is an opportunity for me to prattle on about just how the menu is arranged, but of course, my awareness is hovering around a 3 or 4 (scale of 10).The server places 4 cookie-sized cardboard wafers before us that describe the various breads available. This is initially confusing and a bit comical as I push each one toward my companion offering him to try each card-board delicacy. I am still trying to read my menu and make a lunch choice but the numbers are confusing. Then it seems that I am required to pencil the number of my choice on a selection card and I am struggling to turn a 5 into a 15, when the lady server steps up (an Instructor likely) and declares, " It looks like you are getting a 6.", very clearly and unceremoniously...which I suddenly realize is the Level of Dream I am going to get...

Fade out/fade in

Scene 3b- I am in a similar cafeteria, much more hospital-like, maybe a secured, elder-care, dementia ward; my sub-sandwich on a plate in front of me and a strange, older woman seated opposite me. She is babbling almost incoherently, and taking pieces off her sandwich- slices of baloney, pepperoni, tomato, lettuce- and placing them on my plate one by one...she doesn't want these...I am a bit bothered by these actions...I am not sure how to respond to the situation...

I am unclear as to what is going on, still being in a fairly low-level awareness, but I know her difficulty is now the central issue. She reminds me for a moment, of my concern for my aging mother's possible eventual senility, so that is a distraction momentarily. She says to me, "It hasn't been worth it if we haven't found anything of value in all these antique fairs; not me, not you, your brother or your daughter..!"

Antique auctions have no relation to my family, and I don't have a daughter, so this realization allows me some psychological distance from her I ask her 'How can I help you?' 'What is wrong?' Unfortunately, this does not get a response, as she lowers her head into her folded arms to begin an uncontrollable sobbing, and I continue asking how I can help...

As her head lowers, two children are revealed to be standing behind her. The image is a 10 year old girl, putting on a winter-jacket, backwards onto her 8 year old brother...arms first, doesn't make any obvious sense to me, at first...

The boy is looking at me very directly as his sister puts the jacket on him, and says matter-of-factly, "Gymnastics."

I say back to him- "You or me?"

He says, "Maybe both..."

Fade out

..................a dear friend turned me onto the rather esoteric idea of "the surgical astral team"...a group of rather short, chubby dudes, kind of a WW1 surgical team that responds to these took a few weeks to realize that the picture of a little sister putting a winter coat backwards onto a little brother may have been a simple mis-interpretation of one of the little "guys" being suited up in the appropriate surgical garb to take on a retrieval...

Always wondering...

71  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Selski's Journal on: September 22, 2017, 05:15:24
That is an excellent insight catmeow! Yes, very possibly a "loop". And Selski provided what Frank would call an "interrupt" to break the cycle of thought that was trapping him.

Selski, I will write that LD out shortly...still some concepts sorting themselves in this one for me. I guess I should also start an "experience" journal here and collect my more notable ones...
72  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Lucid dreaming's the way? on: September 20, 2017, 07:26:32
This is an excellent topic to have brought up baro-san, thank you for this!

The focus of my thought and research over the last couple of years has gradually concentrated ever more on this exact question: When we each pass on to the Afterlife, what will our 'awareness' consist of? And how hard should we be working on this 'side' to possibly strengthen that awareness while we still have time?

The question finally sort of coalesced for me the last few months- Will my awareness in the 'Afterlife' be more like my present waking awareness, more like my dreaming awareness, or some combination of the two? I think we may take it for granted that we will automatically have some kind of combined or greater awareness, but that seems increasingly a doubtful or circumstantial outcome to me.

Apparently, the manner of death may greatly affect the outcome; that certainly seems plausible.

So, I agree that the pursuit of Lucid Dreaming...the idea of developing the NP Personality, seems of increasing importance. Thank you for the reco on Muddy Tracks, I will have to order that one. The possible fact that a TMI experiencer got caught out may be indicative of just how problematic the situation can be.

I recently finished Holecek's  'Tibetan Dream Yoga' book...excellent. I am now working through my second reading of Kurt Leland's 'The Unanswered Question' which is directly discussing this exact subject. Sadly, it is out of print and only available on the used book market, but I think it is exceptionally good and relevant. Kurt compares the Egyptian Book of the Dead along with the Tibetan Book of the Dead, along with his own experiences and other references. Here are two distinct cultures that each considered this exact question, and found it important enough to record techniques for advising a soul in how to navigate the Afterlife...

Again, it all points back to the importance of recording our dreams and striving to become more aware within them.

And of course, balancing that within our Physical life.

73  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Selski's Journal on: September 13, 2017, 07:05:59
No problem, you have plenty of experiences to keep you busy...great stuff!
74  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Illuman's Dream Journal on: September 11, 2017, 07:09:07
Right from the start, you are making a great observation and asking a difficult question, lol. Yes, there is no 'ultra noob guide' is rather 'all sort of mixed pieces'...I keep meaning to do one...sometime...

A few reasons might be that it is such a vast and unknowable subject, it would rival the Encyclopedia Britannica (does anyone even remember what that was/is? smiley), and most knowledgeable practitioners are reluctant to describe the parameters of such a subject that is so dependent on an individual's experience, perspective and you get 'mixed pieces' most of us do have day jobs... wink

So I will recommend some 'pieces' that more or less reflect my current thinking.

I guess that it comes down to 2 aspects to consider: What do you expect to experience? And what will you experience or are experiencing? Our reluctance to describing the experience comes down to not wanting to limit or direct what might be your personal experience because that may take many possible forms; some of which may not resemble mine in any way.

To attempt to state the process in general terms and as a starting point- The OBE or Out of Body Experience should be re-stated as a changing of the Focus of your Awareness from Physical Reality (PR) to somewhere else, meaning Non-Physical Reality (NPR). You have already done this thousands of times quite naturally in the forms of Dreaming and Daydreaming. It is 're-focusing' away from the Physical perspective (PR). As simple as it seems, most of us don't realize the extent to which we can train and increase this ability. You already have a reservoir of dream experiences to remember, some of which you may find are more indicative of NP Reality than you first imagined. This is why the Dream Journal is so important.

Okay, so there are dreams and what? What do they offer?

By exercising this ability, it gets better. Your dreams become more lucid, which means you increase your awareness within them. These are Lucid Dreams. Then a shift occurs and you realize someone or something is challenging you to learn new skills. And you get some adventures along the way...You may recognize that certain childhood dreams were actually early examples of this educational process (yes, I said educational, implying seems we never leave, lol). In some cases, you interact with aspects of yourself, your subconscious; other times you can meet sentient beings...yes they are actually out there (or in there). It is quite a shock when someone actually contacts you.

Your daydreams may become forms of visualization which are new forms of exercise or techniques to help you re-focus into NP realms.

So what do the other techniques offer and where do they take you?

Of course, nearly everyone wants to stay in control, from beginning to end of an experience...but frankly, for most, that only comes later. The resistance to disconnecting the awareness/consciousness from the physical body either comes naturally for a few or takes some time to learn. Usually a brief period of unconsciousness is required, but that's okay. So just let it happen if that's the way it needs to happen.

Whether it is a specific visualization technique or a meditative technique, I find that either of these is best applied within the context of a WBTB or Wake, Back To Bed technique. You get the additional ease of the natural sleep/disconnect process. Early morning wake-ups can be good, afternoon naps can sometimes be miraculous! Again, this is one of those personal things; it may work for you but not for me.

So the "classic" idea of an OBE can become a bit obsessive, the idea that you lie down, relax and float out of your physical body like a ghost and go wandering about the Earth Plane. Well, that can and often does happen, especially in the early stages; but no one should get hung up and obsessed with having that particular experience for a number of reasons. If it happens that way, then great! But it will change to something else eventually. Or it may start out as something else completely, like a Lucid Dream or an outright Phasing.

Here's how I opened the subject with another member-

Xanth provides an excellent compilation of ideas that would be part of the 'comprehensive NOOB guide[ drats-the link doesn't work but you can access it from the 3rd Board]“my_astral_projection_truth”-t32983.0.html

And Szaxx provides further context and specificity- This has over a hundred subtle yet exact particulars and nuances describing the NP process-

And PR has a pretty classic primer here- it also points out a hard fact that you have to often work hard at something unsuccessfully until the answer occurs to you in a most obvious fashion-

All that should give both a headache and load your subconscious with plenty of data to look for in your early experiences...

Enjoy, take two aspirin and call us in the morning... grin


75  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Illuman's Dream Journal on: September 11, 2017, 02:15:32
Nice work!

I hope it is immediately apparent how responsive your subconscious/inner self/higher self/whichever was to your 'intent' and the inner instructions you gave yourself by having and remembering these dreams. It isn't always this easy but this is a great start!

A Dream Journal is a great idea for several reasons.

Your desire for a specific type of experience is important and the idea that you have already stated, 'simply to contact guidance and experience the next best experience for your learning' is a great general form of INTENT, which you will come to learn is a central component to any experience/adventure.

A great exercise to begin at this point is the use of Affirmations to learn how easy and straight-forward it can be to communicate messages to your 'inner self'. Keep it simple, like basic programming for a simple computer, and choose one or two simple, positive phrases to repeat to yourself both during the day and as you go to bed.

"I remember my dreams and experiences every night."
"I become aware during my dreams."
"I wish to have contact with 'guidance' tonight."
"I wish to have the next experience that is best for my evolution."
"I am safe and protected always and during my dreams and adventures."

Come up with your own, word it your own way, keep it simple and positive. This works well generally for most people and very well for some. It is a great default technique when other techs seem to not work.

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