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101  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: hemi-sync bitrate on: August 25, 2011, 11:37:19
Yeah but the thing is it isn't Chiels theory. It's what TMI have told him.

Now I look back I have noticed I get better results with hemi-sync I have bought
102  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / hemi-sync bitrate on: August 25, 2011, 09:03:38
Thought this info was pretty important as some people may be wasting their time. This is an extract from a discussion on linkedin:


"Has anyone had success in experiencing the same degree of meditation when you convert the hemisync CD's to an Ipod?"
posted 1 month ago

Chiel Varkevisser 1 month ago • "The Monroe Institute recommends, when converting the CDs to MP3 format to use at least 196 Kbps bitrate for them to work."



I guess this only really applies to people who have downloaded hemi-sync under somewhat shady circumstances (and i'm guessing this accounts for a lot of people). If so chances are it aint working properly for you as a lot of downloadable hemi-sync out there is at only 128kpbs. Occasionally some is at 320 kpbs but not much.

In a way it's a good advert for not downloading illegally as you may have been wasting your time with it but never even realized.

103  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Really Good Question! on: July 29, 2011, 11:25:50
Yeah that's nicely put. I see it much the same way. I think it comes down to definition of OBE.

I steer clear of thinking about it in terms of OBEs, projections and the like. For me consciousness is a spectrum with includes everything from waking consciousness to mental realm consciousness and everything in between including, subjective dream states, drink and drug states, coma states, various afterlife regions etc etc... Your conscious awareness is wherever you choose to focus it (hence Monroes coining of the term focus level). At the moment your physical body locks it to this focus of consciousness. Monroe even said that when you daydream a part of your consciousness is there so you can include daydreams in that list. I think the only variable as Boom said is your level of conscious awareness within the area of consciousness you are focusing in (although the word 'area' is incorrect as that implies a spatial element). In a dream your conscious awareness is very limited affecting perceptions and recollection whereas if you access the same environment straight from waking consciousness the chances are you will have a very lucid experience.

I was also thinking recently about when people say they only experience lucid dreams and not proper OBEs. I think there is a trap here that people dont class LDs a proper 'OBE' experience. If you consider that at TMI in focus 27 you are encouraged to create your own subjective environment. But by definition of modern literature on this topic that makes it a lucid dream. But focus 27 is considered by many as one of pinnacle areas of afterlife consciousness to access. So I think its important not to get bogged down in all the associations words have on this topic and trust guidance is showing you what you need at this time in your consciousness evolution.

104  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Interesting OBE resource on: July 22, 2011, 20:06:24


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105  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Interesting OBE resource on: July 22, 2011, 09:22:38
I think thread closure is in order. It serves no purpose with its current direction

Haha!

Such a biting yet familiar retort. Although on this forum I think you'll find an out of body resource does serve a purpose unlike a thread equating sleep paralysis to the work of the devil, which, if I recall rightly attracted a fair few detractors and inspired much enjoyable ridicule.
106  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Interesting OBE resource on: July 21, 2011, 16:24:35
Dont know if this resource has been posted before. This guys experiences are based on techniques he learned at TMI and the IAC. Interesting accounts and methods explored.

Enjoy.

http://www.obexperiences.com/
107  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Sleep Paralysis on: July 11, 2011, 15:57:48
I think thread closure is in order. It serves no purpose with its current direction
108  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Sleep Paralysis on: July 09, 2011, 08:29:12
haha nice try.

It's shite like this which sows the seed in someone's mind that bad things are waiting for them just out their body and so it happens. I remember when I first started trying the only thing I had read had scared me because it was saying how to beat the infamous dweller on the threshold. And sure enough my first experiences involved a mysterious scary black entity. Once I read up properly I realised (to quote Frank) that thought = direct action so it was my own fears about what I read that created it.

From then on I never saw the entity again.
109  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Trying to induce sleep paralysis on: July 04, 2011, 13:57:30
Sleep paralysis is a requirement for projection because the only way of achieving projection is to be in deep enough trance, which means body asleep mind awake and you will know it when the sleep paralysis takes over. All this about projecting without the sleep paralysis seems incorrect from my past experiences an im not sure what sort of state they are referring too when they say you dont need it. Being really relaxed and focused alone wont cut it. The best way to achieve sleep paralysis is to try to stay aware as your falling asleep.   

I guess it all comes down to method of projection (and also I guess how you define projection). With a classic OBE I am more inclined to agree but not 100%. If we're talking Monroe Institute then definitely not. Many graduates do not require total body disassociation. In fact when you do Lifelines and any upwards courses half way through a tape exercise you are encouraged to give verbal feedback into a mic while in focus 27.
110  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: A Twist on Franks Noticing Exercise on: June 30, 2011, 21:05:38
I use this technique as well. I actively try to creates images in the blackness. I find the easiest thing to try is moving down an astral tunnel. It is simple to visualize and has depth and parallax which seems to facilitate the process. I even do it on the commute home. I find it remarkably easy here. Once I start seeing the tunnel it just develops of its own accord and I just go with. I would say though that so far they have not developed into a fully blown experience yet.


In addition, what I find stimulates these images is the using the hemi-sync cd Sound Sleeper. I've no idea why but I put it on at bedtime with not particular aim (not even to create an image in the blackness). After about 5 mins I just start receiving interesting visuals. They are very different from the images I get using a specific focus level cd. Those tend to be fleeting that disappear as soon as I look at them whereas with sound sleeper I find they hold firm and once I lock in on it I find they evolve.

One important thing with this technique I would say though is in being careful how you look with your eyes. When you are just passively observing  your eyes are in that natural position (that relaxed, looking slight down towards your nose position). If you are actively trying to create something you might be tempted to force your eyes to look outward ( I liken it to focusing somewhere in the distance). There is a definite strain in the eyes with this which would be detrimental to the process. So it is important to maintain that relaxed eye position when doing this.
111  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Trying to induce sleep paralysis on: June 25, 2011, 14:55:56
I personally think sleep paralysis should not be your goal as it is only a symptom of your ultimate goal. In fact, it isnt even a prerequisite for an OBE. I remember when I first set out on this quest I read stuff that said SP was a necessity for an OBE. What a load of bollox that turned out to be and it only had the effect of holding back any progress I was making.

Focusing on your body is a no no. The logic being that your body should recede into the bg as you move further into an altered state but how can that occur if your attention is focusing on every little symptom it gives off?

As for suggestions, maybe read up on Frank Kepple or personally I would use hemi-sync.
112  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Had an OBE after listening to Gateway experience on: April 20, 2011, 22:11:39
Just a general comment based on some of the responses on this thead - I dont confess to be an expert but I get the impression some of you guys are considering hemi-sync from a slightly narrow point of view in terms of what you do with it and what you can achieve.

You can obviously try for an OBE with it, however, that is not it's main purpose. Then there is phasing your consciousness through various methods (most popularly using visualizations as Frank put forward) but this is very difficult to do as a beginner. To highlight this consider that if you do residential TMI programs they don't actually teach a method of phasing until Starlines. So you have to do 3 programs before they teach you this method. That shows what an advanced technique it is.

I get the impression some people think it is all or nothing with no middle ground. No experience or full experience.

People may try the gateway tapes for a while and their only frame of reference is Frank's posts so if they don't experience what he purports then they become disheartened. If you do a TMI course you don't start off by racing out your body and whizzing across fantastical landscapes. You starts with taking your cues from fleeting visuals and visions. As an example, one good exercise is to move into focus 12 and simply ask questions and wait for a response. As a beginner your response will likely be a grainy flashing image. If these visions answer the question you asked then you are slowly breaking down self-imposed belief systems that may have inhibited your perceptions of the non-physical. So bit by bit your fleeting visuals my start to develop into coloured visions, then may be sound. You can't expect to go from nothing to full 360 vision just like that. It's like body building. It takes time.

I realise I have raised a question in the above when I say go to focus 12 to ask questions. People will think they can't get to focus 12. Again people may be too conditioned by what they have read in Franks posts ( I know I was. That's not to say what frank says isnt good. I think he wrote some amazing stuff). So when the cd takes you to focus 10 trust you are there. Ok, initially it may not be the deepest focus 10 but you can deepen it with practice.

Everyone experiences it differently. You don't need complete loss of body feeling to be there. Long term TMI facilitator Frank DeMarco wrote in his book that he always had a reasonable degree of body awareness in focus 10 and 12 and he had some amazing past live experiences there.

 
113  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Had an OBE after listening to Gateway experience on: April 20, 2011, 21:08:06
Don't see how you cant love that sound. It's so hypnotizing, especially if combined with ocean noises, or sitar, or other such rhythmic sounds.

I personally love the phase pink sounds on the non-verbal sound sleeper cd. Such a relaxing sound as it takes you to 10 then sleep.

Thats more of a...'wooshoowooo' noise. Very pleasant
114  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: In defence of RB on: April 17, 2011, 09:39:10
I can't stand listening to audio sounds that are not music.


You could always try metamusic from the monroe institute then.
115  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: In defence of RB on: April 16, 2011, 18:35:50
I assume you are not familiar with Gateway Wave I.

The resonant tuning is the first step which I've come to learn is very important. Not only does it raise energy but it also quietens the mind and is supposed to create a resonance with your second body (I think this last point is correct more or less). For the resonant tuning on the deep in breath you imagine you are drawing energy into your body from all parts of your body and moving it up to your head. On the out breath (which TMI state that it is important you let out an OMM noise(the resonant bit)) you imagine you are expelling any stale, negative energy through your mouth. After doing this for a while you form your REBAL....

...for this you imagine the energy that you have stored in your head comes out the top like a fountain around your body wrapping round as it falls then re-enters through your feet continuing up to the head. This process in cyclical and you repeat this for several minutes. However, this is the technique for when you first activate your REBAL. On Wave I Bob gives you an audio cue to activate your REBAL in one easy step which is to inhale, imagine the number 10 in a bubble, exhale and blow the bubble out and your REBAL will then form.

You are encouraged not only to create your REBAL during an exercise but during waking life to see what patterns you create. You may find certain people are drawn to you. For example I have been fashioning my REBAL this week before going to work. On my lunch break I go for a walk and keep finding cats come up to me to play. Either a weird coincidence that so many have come up to me or I am attracting them. I haven;t decided either way yet but this REBAL has got me interested in it.
116  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: In defence of RB on: April 16, 2011, 14:46:26
For Franks phasing method it does not involve energy work because he didnt seem to need it to aid his experiences. Like Stookie says do what works for you.

Recently I have reread the Gateway Experience guidance manual and found interesting stuff on what it calls high energy states.

"Your REBAL is an intensification of your own energy, helping to create a high energy state* within and around you. Operating on a principle of resonance, in accordance with the Gateway Affirmation...•   For the purposes of this Manual, high energy state refers to an enhanced state of awareness that embraces methods of perception not ordinarily used in physical, waking consciousness. While in a high energy state, one has available a broader range of perceptions with which to solve problems, develop creativity, obtain guidance, or simply enjoy greater awareness of, and interaction with, one’s internal and external reality. .."

I think I have always underestimated the importance of this tool. Kepple never used it in his practice (I guess he never needed to). As a result I think a lot of people have followed him to the letter which is not a goodf approach. Personally I have to say since putting more effort into, firstly, my resonant tuning, and then my REBAL I am experiencing more in the various focus states.

117  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Black water again! on: February 08, 2011, 09:28:23
I agree with Xanth. I think may be it is something personal to you. May be you are being shown it for a reason which you have yet to understand. It seems many people have slightly obscure repeated elements in their OB experiences. For me I often find myself moving on some form of travelator thing (a bit like a ski lift but Im standing up). It takes me through different scenery. It's a bit like a cheesy ghost train ride at a fairground. I definitely feel I'm being shown something.
118  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: OBE Course Advice Requested on: January 31, 2011, 14:08:46
There are prerequisite for Lifeline and several other TMI courses.

Yeah, when I say there are no prerequisites I mean you dont need to spend 6 months learning about OBEs first. If they take GW voyage then Lifeline naturally follows
119  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: OBE Course Advice Requested on: January 31, 2011, 08:04:52
I would practice at least for half a year before going to any course to get as much as possible out from the course.

Not sure I agree. If you spend six months practicing and reading up on the subject then it is going to create a certain amount of expectation. If you attend TMI they say this is one of hindrances to experiencing something there. If you go with no expectation then you get more out of it.

There are no prerequisities for a TMI course. I say just go. Expect nothing and see where it takes you.

And on which course I would probably say back to back courses of Gateway Voyage and Lifeline. Go over to the TMI forum. You will get lots of feedback from the alumni there.
120  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: hemi-sync excursion on: January 27, 2011, 07:56:17
Dolphin energy healing?  I have never heard of that.

I am part of the dolphin energy club. The problem is it requires completel mastering of focus 10 which I'm not quite able to do yet.

If you've used the GW Experience then some of it will be familiar to you. The Dolphin Energy club or DEC is three part - first you utilize the energy bar tool (found on Wave 2 or 3 I think) and you use this to fashion your own personal DEC dolphin (mine is creatively called Deccy and he sits on my shoulder when I do manage to do a DEC exercise). Then with the Living body map (also on wave 2 or 3) you use it to heal your mental, physical, and emotional body.

However, the focus 10 waves on the cd are slightly different. I read they have apparently taken teh brainwaves of notable natural healers and reverse engineered them into the hemi-sync.

With the 'club' part of the DEC you receive emails every so often from TMI that they need ten DEC members to do a focus 10 exercise on a particular person with an ailment.
121  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: hemi-sync excursion on: January 26, 2011, 18:54:05
I would really like to attend a session there but I don't know what I would go for yet

I don't really understand what you mean. You go to the starter excursion to master focus 10 and 12. Mastering these tools opens up a world of self exploration.

If you master them they are the springboard to some very interesting things... remote viewing (focus 10), dolphin energy healing (focus 10 again), problem solving (focus 12), past lives (focus 15 and 21) inner self help (ISH) communication (focus 21), retrievals in the BST, exploration of focus 27, creating your own special place.

So in short you would go to open up the pathway to such experiences. What you do when the path is open is up to you. As Bob would say, 'only you can change you.'

I'm not saying that you will master these focus levels in one weekend but you will receive the guidance and support that you don't get with the GW Experience and so hopefully accelerate your progress
122  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Shakti helmet? on: January 25, 2011, 22:21:19
Can you post links here with our breaking rules? If so Ill post a link to the one i am looking at and it explain it in great detail.


Well I just did. I think you'll be fine unless the link you provide takes us to your personal dogging in a carpark tribute page
123  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Shakti helmet? on: January 25, 2011, 10:03:22
Diffuicult subject to find info on. A while back I did some research. There was a thread on some forum where someone was testing the 8 coil. Seem to have some interesting effects.

I almost boulght one then chickened out. Not sure I felt comfortable with that stuff wrapped round my brain....but by all means be our guinea pig and give us some feedback

This link is not the one I originally read but still has some user feedback...

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=163901&st=15
124  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / hemi-sync excursion on: January 22, 2011, 10:45:35
Hey,

I'm attending one of TMI's new mini weekend programs which gets you to master focus 10 and 12. I just wondered if anyone here had attended one and how good they were. After all if you can master focus 10 then this the springboard to so much more.

Cheers
125  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: How to indirectly project on: January 22, 2011, 10:43:20
floriferous, that Monroe product is a set of different tracks isn't it? And you go through each, one by one.. when you get accustomed to one track, you move onto the next?

So would you say it matters if you go through the process or you would be able to just go straight to this track you mentioned?

If you are just trying this method then it doesn't matter. Of course if you are trying to use hemi-sync properly then start with intro to focus 10.
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