As Yoda says, 'size matters not.. look at me... judge me by my size do you? hmm?'
(imagine best Yoda accent)

I think its true though, the size of the object matters to you only because the smaller it is, the more aceptable it is to your mind.
At the risk of quoting Yoda again, 'the difference is only in your mind'!

Douglas



 

>This one is freaky..........2 months ago I was dumped for cheating on my ex, but really I didn't

Of course you didnt, we believe you!  

Sorry, only joking, I've actually been in a similar situation whereby if the other person doesnt trust you enough not to cheat then thee's no point in being together, if its so bad that they actually believe somthing happened then thats even more annoying.

However....
Maybe he's confused mentally due to the whole obe thing, I know you should both cool it but maybe it will work out in the future once he gets used to his new expanded view of the world.... thats enough to unbalence anyone, I know it freaked me until I got used to it, and i'm sure it probably caused me to act towords people in ways that I later regreted.
Its just that its not everyday that you can see and talk to people who are involved with obes, I certainly dont know anyne apart from this forum (thank god for the forum!).

I know, its easy for me to say from over here, but even if thats not an option for reasons which you will know about and I wouldnt, maybe you could both work at being friends.
This way you could both benefit from the wonderful world of obe!
Just a thought.... and probably not a very good one!

Douglas

 

> read some astral projection books if you read projection of the astral body >by sylvan muldoon (check out your local library they may have it) he stated >what happens the moment one dies, he was talking about one guy he >observed while in his astral body who was addicted to narcotics/alcohol >and his life was upside down, he detailed described his aura was brown >(which was bad) what happened when he was dying and being resusitated >he was in his astral body then he went to grab his booze on the side >which he couldn't then woke up then when he finally died he was in a >really bad state and went franticly into oblivion once out.
>Weagle

What, you mean he ceased to exist? I find that unlikely.

Douglas

 

Well said Frank.
Sorry Comus but thats one of the hard facts about accepting this greater view of the world.
I too once had thoughts of 'swinging from the rafters' due to the fact that I thought that my obe exit trauma was too much to deal with. (See: OBE fears affecting my health)
but I've learned to accept it as a challenge to overcome and I'm now almost excited about it!
Once you learn about the astral you will realise that as Frank says you will not escape your problems, they will just be magnified. You will be most likely caught up in an emotional loop. You may even end up becoming tied to an area of the real-time plane and constantly relive your negative experience,
do you want to become a 'ghost'?
I learned that everyone must deal with their problems and suicide doesnt help because you will STILL have to deal with the same situation on the astral, only I suspect it will be even harder.
It's just a hard fact of life I'm afraid.
You've stepped over the threshold now so you will realise that suicide is not the seemingly easy option that it once was, you won't 'escape' anything.


The time to deal with problems is NOW!

You've started talking about it which is the first step in the right direction.
It certainly helped me.

Regards,
Douglas

 

Thanks Trish,
I have an appointment with the doctor for next week so I can get somthing for the sleep deficit, like a 14 year sleep deficit!!!

I remember at one time thinking of going to see a psychiatrist to see if he could help me with my obe 'exit trauma' as RB calls it.
I decided against it however as I can't see your average psychiatrist accepting anything OBE related, he would probably think I was covering up repressed memories of being raped by a horse or somthing

It only twigged recently that in order to deal with obe related problems, I should talk to othr OBE'ers,
I know, Doh!
Still, I got here eventially!

Regards,
Douglas

 

Well, from what I read of him/his work, he is or was one of the most respected astrologers and occultists in the US during the 20th Century.
He is well up on Kabalistic lore so I assume his nature of evil theory is based on or extrapilated from Kabalistic ideas.

Douglas

 

>I haven't read it, but it sound pretty fishy to me.
>You have to know to separate the "kukes" from the real mystics. I can't >picture RV saying something like that...
>David

I think Zolar's genuine enough, I think he's well respected in the occult field.

Douglas

 

Thanks Clarine!

Regards,
Douglas

 

>It's good that we've been of help.
>Let us know how it goes, ok?
>jouni

Will do!

It will be a real task this though, I believe it will be the biggest personal challenge I have ever attempted. I have been thinking though that perhaps this was meant to happen, that one of my tasks in this life was to overcome personal fear, if so then what a way of doing so!

I will have to set aside a day and say to myself 'on this day I WILL go through with it.
I think that a firm resolution to try it on a certain day will be the only way, this is because already I have felt myself trying to worm out of it, I kind of thought after reading the articles on the forum today, 'oh, maybe I should try it tonight... oh no I cant, I'm going out this weekend, but I WILL try it soon' etc etc..
Basically Im looking for excuses to chicken out.  I guess that running away from the fear is easier than facing it, however, I'm getting more and more fatigued as time goes by so I have to resolve to deal with this now.
   Anyway, I must set a day, somthing like a certain day next week whereby I will make sure that I am free on that day and set it aside as 'projection day'!
I read Robert Bruce's advice about projecting in broad daylight as an aid to fear problems, this sounds good to me!

All for now,
Douglas


 

Thank you everyone for your kind words and advice!
Its just wonderful after all these years of not being able to talk to anyone about this, now I can share this with you all.. what a great medium the internet is!

I have only recently realised that the only true logical way out is to face my fears, I think I have aways known this deep down but have supressed it. I am now coming to accept it. I think however, that being able to share this with other OBEers (albeit more succeseful ones!) has been so great... thank you!
Concerning your comments about being able to obe on a first attempt.. You say that I am actually lucky in this respect. You know, I never thought of it like that before.... I've always (due to the fear aspect of course) taken this as a negative factor, but you've helped me see it from another point of view, in that its actually a good thing!

I WILL do this!

Thanks everyone!

Regards,
Douglas