Age of bush bashers?  

No person can really be in anyway advanced or intelligent and still like bush it just isnt possible.

Not surprising from a guy a with a gun as his avatar.

Yes, its based on a true story.

andrew,

no i have never reached a star thtat i remember,  but a colorful "hole" of some type has opened up before and i flew through it into some weird place.  I still dont know where it is.. but once i remember flying though swirling colors that appeared and being in a cartoon land.

These types of nightmares were my first introduction to lucid dreaming.  I'd do this all night and someone would always be in the room tormenting me.  One thing i realized is that when this happened i always "woke up" to the obe.  Another thing I realized is im always very weak during these times and its hard for me to go outside, which is what i always try to do and once outside the "person" is gone.

I now believe that there is not really a person there at all.  Robert bruce has written about the effects of being too close to your physical body once you project.  This accounts for the weakness.  The person most likely is a thought form.  In other words youre out of body without really knowing it..so your physical body senses a presence.  Your fear kicks in.. etc etc.  What ive learned to do when this happens is leave the room where my body is.  My strength returns and the mysterious person is never there anymore so i can do my business.

Hey everyone.  Some of you might remember me from a while back.  A lot of things have happened since i stopped coming to this forum.  The thing i wanted to bring up for discussion is mental illness.  Ive recently started working in the mental health field.  What sort of bothers me and makes me question so much of this stuff is the number of people who are schizophrenic who share similiar beliefs.  

I see the parallel mostly in the self defense section where people think everyone is out to get them.  But there are so many other parallels.  More and more with the far out posts about government conspiracies and people talking to aliens I see so many similarities to the patients here.  

Im not accusing and i still believe and have astral projections and lucid dreams.. but the line can be thin sometimes.  Any non defensive thoughts on this?

thanks

Do most of you really think everything that happens was meant to happen.  ever feel like some things are a huge mistake?

Are you still hanging out here?  I lost your email, since my emails were erased and cant remember what it started with.  wanted to see how you are.

I havent been around here for a long time, but came across my old copy of Astral Dynamics and it occured to me RB's new book should be out soon.  wasnt the date jan 2004? is it almost out or what?  

well here was my response anyway.  I guess after Adrian declared Mayatnik a suitable and very trustworthy teacher he moved the topic or erased it..

Adrian,  

That is coming as a shock to me that you see nothing cultish about it.  Wait.. the prophecy and divination forum is filled with mayatnik's sticky topics.  You believe very much in this end of the world.. fight for the light nonsense.  What am I saying?  I expected nothing more from you.

Paremenion.  You are seriously self deluded.  Who is this mediocre spirit you are chanelling.  The way you talk to mayatnik "perchance"..and other ways you think make you sound more intelligent.  You really think you're chosen for anything?

I gave my concern it is a cult.  And I think it is.. however I see even though this forum sent a caution out to mysticweb people.  Adrian's personal beliefs about the pleidians and this doom stuff is going to make him endorse mayatnik.

Wait this is a sticky in astral chat telling people to go look at mayatnik's topic which is a sticky in divination.  hmmmmm no that doesnt suggest anything.

Most of the chosen people on that forum are seriously self deluded people who really want to believe they will have ANYTHING to do with saving humanity when all this darkness comes.  

Have fun travelling back and forth to "ED's House" plotting your next move.

BTW most cult leaders aren't flaming madmen telling people to drink their poison.  Most are just overzealous people believing in a cause.

You just have to look at the members of any cult to look how high the information is coming from.

This forum obviously endorses certain cults while condemning others and telling people "find your own way".  

So have fun with all of it.  Mayatnik make your next post a separate one so Adrian can make a nice sticky out of it.

Thanks people for listening to my concerns.  If even one person doesn't buy into this end of the world bovine excrement (which judging from PM's may have happened).. then the post was worth it.  For the rest of you PREPARE PREPARE for these pleidians who sometimes mislead.  Remember its all for your benefit.

I accidently put this in the LD section when I ment to put it here.  Sorry for spamming.

The other night I had a lucid dream that turned into a projection due to the usual method I use of clearing my mind and watching the scenery around me disappear.

I did what I normally do .. I have done this countless times.. Flown straight up into the night sky and hope to get somewhere. I remember I felt a presence following me but I refused to be afraid. To my great joy.. (understatement) I saw a circle up in the sky and chinese letters in the clouds. I have no clue what they meant but I did know it showed me a "target" I willed myself to fly through it and walla.

I was in a world of the most amazing colors I have ever seen. I cant even describe the colors and I knew it wasn't a figment of my mind because if anyone here has gone from a dark rt zone to a place of brilliant colors you just KNOW you're in someplace outside of yourself.

The only beings I saw in this place were these really really funny looking old men. No women at all and they were smiling huge. I talked to them and they were really friendly but only smiled mostly I dont remember any responses. I remember being in a restaurant talking to one who seemed a little "mentally challenged" at least that was my impression. I work with some mentally challenged people rt so it wasn't a surprising thing to me. I thought MAYBE it had to do with that in some way.

Anyway I woke up very happy I had finally gotten somewhere. I still dont know what to make of the circle and chinese letters but having a target to fly into helped a lot.

Anyone been to a similiar place? It was really funny.. the people almost looked like elfs but tall and all were old.

Many of us know eachother's handle but dont know much about the person behind the handle.  Thought it would be sort of fun to tell at least one thing no one here knows about you.  It can be anything..

one of mine...

Im hoping to be able to move to Japan someday to live and work.  hopefully some time in the near future.

You cant save anyone and no one is a cause.  Its a temptation I see when a person adopts a certain world viewpoint or set of beliefs.

It can happen and often does happen when a person becomes a christian.  But It can also happen when a person finds another way.  Such as AP, other new age philosophies.  I dont engage in religious debates because I think the end goal is really to be right and in hopes that person will go over to your side.

It wont happen.  Especially when it comes to religious beliefs.  Sure you may convert a person every now and then, but how strong is a path they didnt find themselves?

Im really getting a little tired of all the preaching that is going on.  Im not saying they dont have a right to preach but one thing that is unique about this place is we normally aren't exposed to the BS preaching and force fed christianity we have to see in everyday life.

It is very normal to be approached by a christian.  I was in line the other day in the city I live in and the cashier had a nice convo with the woman in line about the christian band she was buying and how good it is kids like christian music.

People here complain there is an anti christian (am I spelling that wrong?  Im tired).  feel to this place and it isnt that.  Its just they are not as free to force that BS down other's throat because most here have thought it out and moved past it.

There are many christians here who dont preach or complain about all the non christians and label it anti christian.  Just because for once there might be more non christians than christians does not mean you are now a minority and a victim.  

I think highly of christ and am not anti religion in anyway but I feel its getting a little out of control (the preaching).  I mean this is the one place we dont have to hear it.  Where its okay to say "I dont believe in that".  Its just getting under my skin seeing this board plastered with it.

BTW this isn't a call to the mods to do something about it.  Its just me venting.

Thanks people.

Lastnight I woke up in a trance state and decided to project.  I was basically trying to pull myself up doing the rope technique and was pretty far out when my ear started flapping like crazy.  It felt like there was a butterfly inside of it and it was one of the most annoying things ever.

I just started pulling harder and tried focusing light on it (only because in the past its worked with astral "bugs" and whatnot) but nothing happened.  It didnt work so when i couldnt take it anymore I shook my head back and forth rt and got out of trance.

The problem or the question is when in the physical these last few weeks my ear will really start bothering me.  The exact same ear that was fluttering will start hurting out of nowhere.  I even once wondered if I had a bug in there but I didnt.  Its not the same fluttering in the physical just an annoying tickling.  

My question is what is going on?  I wouldnt have thought anything of it if I hadn't told many people there's something wrong with my ear this past week only to have that really strong fluttering (it was painful too) in the astral.  Is it something in the astral effecting the physical or is it something in the physical that became 10 times stronger in the astral?

Any similiar experiences?  

thanks people