hey!! great post but as for an ego or I standpoint ... I think god has one after all in the bible God created man and the angels because "HE!" was lonely ... it also says that we were made in his image ... my 2 cents for the day ...


Jess

wow thank you for the interesting read my friend!

hey thanks guys , ive just been listening to brainwaves the last few days .. theres a program called idoser thats pretty nifty!! anyhow it has one called obe and astral and i think i am getting close .. last night i didnt feel my limbs any more so i think i am starting to get closer like i used to!

yeah ide love to go into paintings or create my own world by drawing it out and then jumping into while OB but i doubt such a thing is possible however it would be a great book ..

ok i have a question to add to this when trying to enter the vibrational stage i get way too excited like my body just tightens up because im so excited it is very frustratiing!

wow thank you for all of your advice you are right thank you! it's just hard trying to relax you know ? i will definetly keep my head up... i have come very very close a few times

i think it is prolly my belief system, as i was raised a jehovahs witness . it is like they are "whispering in my ear this is wrong" anyhow i rea;;y believe in OBE and all that stuff but it is liek my body thinks differently than i do..

Hello, i am 20 years old and i learned about AP when i was just a kid , My cousin who was my best friend was older than me and he researched AP when he was a preteen i guess ..any how ive read books... visualized .. felt vibrations listened to binural brainwave beats and i just cant get out! no matter what i do . i dont know what it is i have my aim and msn info in my account please anyone who has aped and gotten past the body please i would love to talk one on one with you.. books just arent cutting it! thank you so much!



Jez