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1  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Is this stuff really true? (not a flame post) on: November 22, 2002, 10:29:00
I have the same thoughts as Heimdall. What is really going on here ?
What is the difference between a lucid dream and an OBE ? Many claim that dreams are really just projections with a lack of conciousness, but it can be argued that OBE's are really just another form of lucid dream (and in fact, experiments tend to support this).

The whole matter could easilly be settled with this experiment :

1. One person places something in a room (for instance, three playing cards with the faces up on a table), and records the symbols on a sheet of paper.

2. He hands this paper in a sealed envelope to a second person (the controller).

3. Someone else does an OBE, goes into the room and looks at the cards. He records the cards on another piece of paper as soon as he wakes up.

4. The controller compares the two records for similarity.

It's easy and inexpensive. If the records maches, then we can assume that the OBE really took place.

-- Jon Icarus
2  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / One World Gov/New World Order on: August 08, 2002, 10:37:22
Good People,

Money is not the problem. The pursuit of money for moneys sake is the problem. Narsisism is the problem. Greed is the problem. The only solution to this problem, is the continuing expansion and evolution of the human conciousness. After all, the introduction of money in our society was a major development and improvement at the time. There is no salvation in regressing to a more primitive state. The only way is up.

BTW: Many Americans seems to subscribe to some form of conspiracy theory. They seem to believe that their goverment, or some other mysterious governing force, is out to 'get' them in some manner. My belief on this matter, is that the current state of affairs clearly indicate that the iq level of the governing parties is not yet up to such a massive undertaking.

-- Jon Icarus
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