As much as i would love for it to be possible, no you cant. And even if the first 2 people in recorded history claim to have truely done it..sadly we wouldnt believe them anyways. Who Knows. But humanity as a whole is not evolved enough nor ready for such abilities yet.

Hi. Im looking for helpful tips by some proffesionals on the basics of getting to OBE on Will. Ussualy i can only OBE during Sleep Paralysis or even if i have to deprive myself of sleep. I need alternative methods. They are a few spirits and jinns in my home that i would love to study and interact with on a personal level and this is my motivation. I would love to intereact with these entitys more and more.

Is there any other ways to induce an OBE without meditation or paralysis or groggyness. Where does one call upon the vibrations and energys to get into this state of mind to trigger it?

Interesting, I'll try this out when the chance arises. I can never go through walls either. On this realm it feels strangely physical as well everything i touch. So i dont want to really dive into a wall and suffer direct consequences XD

From My personal experience you'll feel yourself Floating out of your body from the top back of your head and ussually you will hear a sound of a Metal door scraping which is your chakras supposedly opening up. Hearing that sound makes all the difference of comparing a legit OBE to a Lucid dream .

Keep your eye on the prize

Prayer is always helpful, especially for her.
If she believes in magic, she is vulnerable.  But the good news is that if she does believe in magic she more likely than not believes in God/Saints and other rituals related to religion (orthodox or nonorthodox, like Santeria, for example.)
So find something she can get into, and teach her that.

Also,  realize that affirmative prayer is the Law of Attraction in action, so to speak.

Merry christmas to all Thanks you both for your replys!

Hi CFT! ^ ^

A few questions if you dont mind me asking. So Magic only works if you believe in it? Im quite confused. Its not so much black magic but the type is Santarea/Voodoo. I know when her sister was at her house she placed a hex at her door and now that shes back in Cuba shes gonna be sending some strong energy across the oceans directed towards her family. I dont know this would work but i Purchased a Volkh spirit from CH to be her Guardian keeper and eat all negative energies.

And about the law of attraction whats the difference between it and Wishful thinking/high hopes? Not that i have doubts i just wanna know when and how it is working.

Thanks in Advance

~God Bless =)

Depends how far you can take yourself. But most commonly you will walk out into an astral replica of your room. Dont confuse it for a Lucid dream you can notice the differences easily

Ok for one i do not believe in any kind of magic. But i have become curious about its potential. im really worried about a close relative of mine. Who's certain inlaw has evil intentions for her and the rest of her family. Greedy over inheritence over death wills and fortune. Over the past years she been suffering lately due to depression and lack of interest in her lover. Going nowhere in life and even losing her job. She was supposedly placed a curse on her and she continues to suffer. A Close spiritual medium friend of ours claimed that she has 2 dead spirits haunting her and wont let her be happy or move on with her life.

My question is will some sort of ritual need to take place. Does the law of attraction work in this situation? Is Prayer necessary or pointless? Im really worried and i need someone with experience with immediate advice. I dont want anymore harm caused to others and those close to me.

Hi, your not going to hell because we cant be confidently sure that such a place exists. If your having doubts about the Christian God then thats fine and natural on your spiritual journey you will often go through trials when thinking about existence and the nature of reality. IMO the observable universe as we know it is pure materialistic. Life's too short to cling to religious dogma. I used to be like you until recent years i opened my mind to other religions critical thinking and new ideas. Not to mention seeing how hypocrite conservatives act is a HUGE Turn off!(But thats for another topic )

If you want to know something interesting take it however you want it but they are other Books apart from the bible written by supposed prophets that the early church was afraid to consider canon because of the contradictions. Im not sure which specific book but you can look up the Gnostic gospels God lets in Paul on a little secret that people who go to hell arent there for an eternity. They do get out once they find redemption in themselves and forgivness in their God. Wouldnt surprise me the early church left this out just so they can have control over so many peoples minds at the time.

Whether its true canon or not who knows i havent done much research but they is a reason many gospels and hidden books are still out their and they refuse to talk about them in church because it ruins they idea of tradition from what they been taught since childhood.

Edit: Btw in some eastern religions mainly buddhism i read off of they have their own version of hell. You wont last for eternity. Instead the karma you cause in this life pays you back in the next life. Being punished BY your sins instead of for your sins. Which kind of supports what i said compared with the Gnostic Gospel. Im not sure if you create your own hell but bad people need to suffer and face the crimes for their sin at some point right? That's like saying Hitler is gonna get off clean but its still not okay what he did. Its still up to him if he wants to be forgiven and he learned a lesson from it. But simply losing faith doesnt fit into that category so you shouldnt worry about it.

Dear Killa Rican,

what makes you think that dreams are not taking place in higher realms?
Modern mainstream science actually has no authority in saying that dreams are not from higher realms. In fact they are from higher realms, merely reflected down into our brain so strongly, for some reason. They are linked to the mental plane which is somewhere inside the astral world however the sleep dimension seems where we enter at night appears to be one of it's kind.



peace

Indeed i see dreams as our own little private quarters of the Astral Somewhat like a hotel. But when we become lucid we see the astral for what its really worth and step out of our rooms .

This "Reality" is nothing but an illusion. Anything is possible even beyond scientific laws. The way i see it is if it's possible to achieve anything in a dream then its possible on higher realms. To me dreams are concrete proof of the unlimited potential an individual soul has. Mind over Matter the power to create and destroy. And in death we simply free our mind.

I have been in your position. And excactly how stookie put it is Fear of the unknown. When you project or in process of it your astral awareness senses heighten and sometimes you can even hear voices or your chakra opening up. I do get scared of what im about to experience but when you project often and overcome your fears you will get used to it.

So I'm watching TV in bed and apparently I started to fall asleep. Now I don't if I was actually asleep or not, but I think I was dreaming when I could see someone standing by my door, but I could not really see them, I just new they were there like an energy. Then all of a sudden the energy came at me and appeared to go through me. I woke up instantly gasping for air. I was not surprised by this and was just wondering what your thoughts were on this???

They say when you get chills down your spine a ghost walked through you. Apparently the case I'd say you probably were dreaming but if you were gasping for air then that means it affected the physical. I dont know how to explain but when i had a dream of having a romancting evening with my lady feeding each other strawberrys i actually woke up not long after that and had the fresh feeling of taste and scent of strawberrys in my lips and mouth instead of morning breath. Not sure how this happens but you have strong spiritual potential imo

I wonder what will happen to all the people who believe in 2012, soon as 2012(or is it by the end of the year?) comes and nothing happens - as always.

What I find funny about this whole 'prophecies' stuff is that people will write a load of stuff about it "get ready about the event, folks! this is the new age blablabla" but they ALWAYS end the "article" with "But, if nothing happens rejoice for X and Y reason."

By the way, not to discharge you or anything but. I am a AB+ Rh - negative; so, according to all the new age stuff, I am a descendant of the "Annunaki" a hybrid.

I am the "Enemy" huh?

And, where are all the cool Alien stuff like Super - Strength, the 8 feet tall trait that "Annunaki" are "rumored" to possess, the incredible mind powers and all the rest? Shouldn't I have that?
 

I dont think anything drastic is going to happen in 2012 either. At least when it comes to the "End" of the world. The Media has blown this out of proportions more for what it is already. Maya themselves never said the world was going to end. They have prophecies that go beyond 2012 anyways. The calendar ends so a New Age will dawn. Spiritual awakening perphaps? Who knows. But with the 2012 movie coming out spreading that BS propaganda i think humanity is in for another epic dissapointment. Im not doubting something might happen Good or bad but most of these predictions are excagerated...

I keep getting them in my lucid dreams. Most of the time I feel like my lucid dreams are about to end, and then I 'wake up' without actually waking up. And then I fall into another dream.

Im not really sure why, but in my experience i think its your mind/subconsious way of preserving your trance. Usually sometimes when im aware im dreaming and then i become lucid I think to myself "OK im not going to wake up and ruin this" But it wont last for long because next thing i know i go back to a normal dream or wake up almost instantly.  At times when i do have long periods of Lucidity i get false awakenings almost every time. Maybe because i refuse to wake up because the experience is so great my subconsious will transport me back to what i think would be waking reality. It's horrible to get stuck in chains of false awakenings though! =(

i must have missed the memo are we being mind controlled or something? X.x