In my opinion I definitely see progress from your experience. I remember i was not able to remember any dreams before I started my journey and now I have had many lucid dreams where I was able to control what I was doing.

Good luck

When I joined this forum there was no question as to what my level of enlightenment was, I knew I would not agree with everyone but I would find common ground with most I hoped. All of us has weaknesses and strengths and we are here to learn, the beauty of it all "free will", I can go to next thread anytime I want.

There are forums all over the net that deal with wars, politics, sports, everyday crap, the "real stuff".

Why don't you join those forums?

In my case if I am too too tired I always fall asleep. The times I have projected the most have been between 9 am and 11 am and maybe a couple of times before going to bed but I was not very tired then.

In my opinion, too tired equals falling asleep easily.

You could try phasing which does not involve much technique, it has worked for me better than the usual AP techniques. I was able to achieve results very shortly after I started trying; of course it also depends on the individual but from other members accounts I have read the results are generally faster. Also Bruce Moen methods seem simple to achieve.

Good luck

http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/start.html

Ruben

Hello Xanth,

I do find phasing easier than using the techniques described in this forum. I think the hardest part for me is the waiting period just noticing, it can get boring, but once I feel the shift then it is jsut amazing with the anticipation something is about to happen.

Hello 3588897,

Just like yourself I did try the classic OB techniques for a couple of months and I did have an OBE but it took a long time, I tried phasing and it probably took a couple of nights to achieve success. I will keep trying and hopefully get to F3.

Hello Timandra,

I read your experiences and they are very interesting, the screen that you mention I have seen it as well and I have to say I have not tried to cross it, I just look at it how it changes colors and all of a sudden I have found myself in a different place, next time I will try to approach it and see what happens.

I came across this thread and I tried it. I think I was successful three times.

http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

First time, I noticed the blackness for five minutes and in fact I was trying to project to the Pulse Island described here, after about ten minutes I started seeing the blackness in 3d and after a while I remember being in a place that resembled the jungle with many flowers and mountains, then I remember hovering above a village with rustic houses an dirt roads, there were people walking and talking but I never interacted with them, and then I woke up.

Another time after about five minutes I saw something similar to a bright window in the blackness, after a while I saw myself floating in the sky and all these boulders were floating in the air as well and I woke up.

Third time, after five minutes of noticing the blackness  I saw sparks of light they looked like mini lightning and then an opening like a portal and after a few seconds I saw the scene of what looked like the universe with many many stars and after about three seconds I saw myself in a house that at the time I thought I knew and I was able to interact with a girl that was in one of the rooms and as I approached her she said "you look good today" but I said nothing and then I just wandered around the house and woke up after a while.

I think I was in F2 in all these experiences, what I like about this method are that it is very simple and so far it has worked for me.

Has anyone else tried it? Anyone gone to f3, f4 without the usual OBE techniques and just by this method?

Ruben

Hey Horacio and Justin, thanks for the replies

the house was really cool and the girl seemed like an ordinary everyday teenager, I have never seen her but at the time I reacted as if I knew her my whole life. I wonder if that is a house from my past or future, I will definitely try to go back, the memory of that house is very well imprinted in my memory.

I was laying on my back waiting to get relaxed and get into a trance but nothing ever happened so I changed to my side and after a few seconds I started hearing this buzz in my ears and sort of a blue portal in my field of vision that changed to light sparks of different colors then the blackness became like a scene of the solar system; I saw stars of different brilliance, it only lasted for a few seconds but it was very cool. Then I found myself in this house which seemed familiar at the time but now I don't remember ever being in a house like that, I checked my arms and some of my fingers were gone but then they appeared again, I went to one of the rooms and I saw this girl, I sat next to her and she said you look good today. Then I just wandered around the house and woke up.

The only affirmations I have made before atempting to AP are to look at my arms and it has worked, now I will try to get clarity and say that while in AP, hopefully it happens soon.

So what was that about "loosh"?

At least tell me which book to look for it in.  

From one of Robert Monroe Books "Far journeys"

"There is a special "energy" called "loosh" which is precious and wanted by some somewhere. One of them who collect this energy created a place to grow this energy: The earth. The evolution that has taken place on earth is just modifications this creator did to get more and higher quality of loosh. This was provided by animals who are fighting, during a fight for life, and when ending a life span, loosh can be harvested. But the most loosh can be gotten from the humans; the creator had implanted a part of his own into these humans. When they have feelings like lonelyness, desire, parent's love, grief etc., the highest quality distillated loosh can be harvested, which is by far better than any other raw loosh." Loosh-rote ("Far Journeys", part 2, chapter 6) summary:

If I understand correctly, Bruce Moen says that the disk (inner self?) sends out probes to earth so everything can be learnt and brought back. Once all the probes come to the understanding of who they really are then there will be a gathering and a “winking out”. He doesn’t know what will happen next.

Robert Monroe I believe is along the same lines but he also reveals in one of his books about the loosh production and how we are like cows producing this loosh for other beings to feed off from.

I also read a few excerpts from Carlos Castaneda where to my understanding he wrote about us being in a sort of a prison where we create energy that other beings need to survive. To me it sounds somewhat like Monroe.

So is this all tied in together? Some beings created this earth as sort of an amusement park for beings to come and experience anger, love, emotions knowing they will be addicted to it and they will not want to leave creating loosh or energy they need to survive but at the same time providing knowledge useful for those using the park (earth) to take back after it’s been used?

Am I just scratching the surface or am I way off? I wish there was an university to dedicated just to learn this and no one would label you as crazy.

Yet, these people seem not to realise far more beautiful 'realities' are a part of their consciousness but it is the ignorance that holds their hand from adjusting the frequency of perceiving.

You are right, we are capable of creating far more beautiful realities, I hope I can get to that point.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

I read the article above and it makes me think about Robert Monroe when he said after visiting wonderful beings and scenery how he was depressed for a long time, I've also read of other accounts like that. I'm so glad that I have been able to learn and experience AP's and even if it was only a few seconds I know I can actually experience a wonderful world outside of this reality.

Anyone ever visited a place somewhat like avatar?

Do scary movies effect your obe's? If I watch a scary movie in the dark it makes me fear even having a obe cause all I would be thinking about is the darkness and scary stuff showing up.This one obe I had, there was a scary robot at my door when it was really dark, it scared me. Another obe I had there was a girl/zombie thing with a pitch black shadow face that looked at me through my window, I just froze in fear. When I was younger I watched that exorcism of emily rose movie then I got sleep paralysis and the devil was at my door, that was really scary also. Dolls are really scary so I try to avoid even looking at them in a obe.

In my case I try to avoid anything that could give me negative thoughts specially before going to bed. Like they say thoughts become real in the astral and even though they might be a manifestation of one's mind and basically we can control them; I wouldn't want to find out what my mind can be capable of when it comes to negativity.

I'm sorry if it sounds like a stupid question but aren't vibes the same as vibrations or do you mean a feeling or sensation coming to you? because in my case when I don't get vibrations I feel this weird sensation which is hard to explain but I just know my awareness is changing and I will get out.