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1141  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / A different view on OBE/AP: an article. on: November 30, 2004, 02:46:08
Having not read the thread in full yet... I'm curious if you have heard of the work carried out by Rick Strassman MD concerning diemethyltryptamine (DMT) release during traumatic experiences - focusing on the NDE experience? DMT is a natural neurotransmitter (which has a much greater affinity than serotonin to certain receptor sites if I remember correctly) and is one of the most potent psychedelics known to science (also being Schedule I in the US!)
 In his experiments Strassman administered varying doses of DMT to subjects whose consequent experiences bared striking resemblance to OBEs. Lower doses also produced 'body-loads' which from description, sounded exactly like the classic 'vibrations.'
 Perhaps a factor which can differentiate NDEs from normal OBEs is this (potential) release of DMT during such a traumatic event which then progresses/evolves the experience?
 To clarify a point: the body is very efficient at cleaning up DMT from the blood stream/brain and has natural enzymes which destroy it. Traumatic experiences seem to override the bodies natural 'clean up' system - which is why people don't constantly feel the effects of this chemical.

 I'm also curious as to how other people who are familiar with the OBE state (and with Strassmans and similar work) integrate the effects of DMT (and their seeming instant OBE experience generation) into their perception of the OBE state?
 I'd be very curious to see results of blood/DMT levels before and immediately after an OBE and NDE. The fact that DMT is a drug means its effects have a certain duration, which seems contradictory to the OBE state which can be terminated at will. A possible explanation could be the deep relaxation/trance state would make the body more perceptive to very low levels of DMT in the blood stream, which would easily be overridden by the full force of baseline (C1) sensory input.

 Strassmans research was recounted in the book "DMT: The spirit molecule," if anyone is interested.
1142  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Healing experience? on: November 30, 2004, 01:44:43
Quote from: yothu
Ok, well, I'd say, MisterJingo, that you experience a similiar thing, right? We have plenty of energy and we 'generate it ourselves'. Now we even have means to distribute it in a positive way. Isn't it .... (please fill in the word)?

Have you learned to see auras? I noticed that I have a much stronger aura, more energy and greater healing ability after doing Tibetan Five.

Kind regards

Matyas


 Thanks for the reply and the links, I will check them out Smiley
 My main interest has always been OBEs, I felt a pulling in that direction which was too deep for me to ignore. I was never interested in other areas such as healing, or mediums. But as my experience with the OBE state grew my interest turned to other areas such as these. I haven't really looked into seeing auras, but I can feel/sense an energy or interconnectedness of all things. It helps to keep this current life in perspective Smiley It is an area I will read more deeply into though.
1143  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Healing experience? on: November 30, 2004, 01:36:35
Quote from: Tyciol
I'm hoping you meant carbon dioxide. If you're exhaling a lot of carbon monoxide you should see a doctor...


 lol you are right. I think it would be too late for even a doctor if I started exhaling carbon monoxide. It was a typo  Smiley

Quote from: Tyciol
Anyway, neither carbon dioxide or monoxide would help heal any creatures. Oxygen would. If you're looking for a scientifically (ala non-NEW) explanation for it, I'm guessing it would have to be either the heat from your breath if it was cold, the physical movement from your breath may have pushed it in a position to fly, or perhaps just fear of you eating it encouraged it to get off. None of these seem too sensible.

The only thing that feeds on carbon dioxide is plantlife. As for carbon monoxide... it's poison... I don't think anything feeds on it (correct me if I'm wrong).



 I wasn't looking for a scientific explanation as such, but I figure it's best to cover all options rather than jumping to conclusions. If nothing else, it helps one to stay grounded.
 I felt like something more did happen, but I've never tried any form of healing before that night as so I guess I wanted opinions of those more versed in this art Smiley
1144  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Ethereal Music on: October 13, 2004, 20:24:30
Quote from: cube
I've heard music a couple times, usually stringed orchestra instruments like violins and basses on the edge of sleep but it's always been 'inside' my head.

What kind of instruments did you hear?


 
I couldn't distinguish any instruments. It was like a symphony of pure sounds. Perhaps even pure voices. It was so on the edge of hearing as barely perceivable, yet once focused upon, intricate detail and beauty could be found in it. I guess the closest thing to the sounds in the music would be when people run their wet finger around an half filled wine glass to produce a pure tone - but even more then that though.
1145  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Possible to reduce sleep paralysis symptoms? on: October 13, 2004, 20:18:34
Quote from: cube
The best way to deal with heavy sleep paralysis symptoms is to use it to project. SP is an excellent state to project from using deep breathing. I give a method I use to project using SP pretty much evey morning here:

http://www.saltcube.com/?t=paralysis


Thanks for the reply. I've always used paralysis to project, usually when I find myself in an SP state I'd simply have to 'rock' from side to side or up and down, this would increase the vibrational state until I could roll out onto the floor. But since the heavier symptoms started occurring this fear reaction kicks in and stops this process. I'll have to be a bit more vigilant and alter my projection technique I guess Smiley
1146  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Healing experience? on: October 13, 2004, 17:45:45
Hi all,

 I've never really practiced healing, but last year I experienced something which I havent yet been able to explain. I've posted about it to a reiki group and I recieved no answers so I thought I would try here.

 My original post was as follows:

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Hi all,
 I'm not sure if this is the correct group, but I recently experienced something concerning energy and healing - so I figured I'd try here Smiley I've never really looked into Reiki so please excuse my ignorance. Although I have never looked into this area I have been aware of subtle energies for many years. My main area of interest is OBEs (and surrounding areas) and so I have meditated and have been developing my energy body for years. Regardless of what people think of the OBE state, it does put one in very close contact with energies and the energy body. Over the past year I have been using new techniques which are more of a tactile visualisation than 'visual.' They were developed by Robert Bruce and I have found them very potent for developing and maintaining the primary and secondary energy systems.
 Well now that I've covered my background, I'll detail the experience which bought me here. At the time I had been doing daily trance work, energy work and meditation and so even when 'baseline' I still had a strong sensation of energy movement throughout my body. I was watching TV late at night and I became aware of movement on the floor. There was a moth fluttering about on it back, banging against things before it eventually stopped moving and lay on its back. It seemed dead or near death.
 I'm not sure why I did this, I guess in part due to the strong energetic feelings I was still experiencing, before I went to bed I lay down on the floor near the body of the moth and started to raise my energy. My hands were about one foot on either side of the moth, there was no physical or close contact. While I raised my energy I started to visualise myself inhaling a brilliant white light, it went down into my lungs and travelled up each arm and out through my palms. With each exhale I breathed out a dark black used up energy.
 The energy I visualised coming from my palms in a very tight line, sort of like a laser and it went into the body of the moth. At first I visualised a sphere of light around it, but as I focused more and got in-tune with what I was doing I centred the energy to the shape of the moths body. So it seemed like the moth was a brilliant white outline. Nothing happened but I kept this up, soon I was very focused and in a partial trance state I'd say (I had visual static, bright lights moving around the periphery of my vision etc) I then noticed the moths legs started to twitch. No other movement but the twitching. Now it seemed like an effort, I felt an excitation through my chest and arms and I had to focus to maintain the visualisation, it felt like there was a slight resistance to what I was doing. I'm not sure why but I started 'sending love' to the moth, saying I loved it and wished it to heal. I wanted it to live. This was sort of a mantra going through my mind, projected outwards towards the moth.
 Soon the twitching in the moth increased and then it suddenly just burst into the air in a single movement and flew off at ceiling height. I'm not actually sure where it went, I looked for it afterwards but couldn't find it.
 So what actually happened here? Even though I do practice OBEs I am quite 'scientific' in outlook, so I'm wondering if this was all coincidence? Perhaps the carbon dioxide from my breath somehow revived the moth? Or did I have some part to play in healing it? I'd like to hear others views on what happened.

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 Any comments would be appreciated Smiley
1147  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Possible to reduce sleep paralysis symptoms? on: October 13, 2004, 16:26:42
Quote from: fost500
Have you ever tried projecting using this "pressure". It sounds like somethin i read on the jonasridgeway website. You should imagine the pressure is pushing your astral body out of your physical though the bed. I think he calls it the gravity release method or something of that variety


 This is something I haven't tried. I'll take a look at this guys website and find out more about it. Thanks!
1148  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Ethereal Music on: October 13, 2004, 16:21:54
On two occasions in my life I've had the same auditory hallucination that I cant really explain. On both occasions I was involved in spiritual practices at the time ie I'd been a lot more involved in astral projection or lucid dreaming. Its hard to describe what I heard but it was not inside my head, it was external. It was the most beautiful music I have ever heard. It was quiet but I could hear it all perfectly. The first time it was dark and I was in my sisters room reading. It seemed to come from the sky. It was the most angelic/ethereal sound you could wish to hear. A few years later, I was in my sisters room when I heard it again. Exactly the same music. I have no idea what it is, but it was beautiful

 Has anyone heard anything similar, or perhaps has any idea what this music was?
1149  The Astral Library / Welcome to Book Reviews! / Looking for a book I read twenty years ago that contained... on: October 13, 2004, 14:11:38
I'm not sure if it's the book you are looking for, but I read some of J.H Brennans books many years ago which covered AP and other techniques for inducing invisibility amongst other things. I think the name of the book was 'Experimental Magic' Although he wrote another called 'Astral Doorways' with similar areas covered and so I'm not sure which of the two contains the invisibility techniques.
1150  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to OBE discussions! / Possible to reduce sleep paralysis symptoms? on: October 13, 2004, 14:04:00
Hi all,

 Over the past year or so sleep paralysis (which I usually use to OBE) has changed for me. Before it would be normal paralysis and energy sensations, which I would use tactile visualisations to go out of body. But the recent changes are stopping me from projecting as they do induce a reflex fear reaction. Sleep paralysis now (if I go with the flow and try not to break it) induces very 'heavy' energy sensations. My body awareness feels pulled away and my mind seems to 'slide' as tremendous pressure seems to be crushing me down and backwards. I use crushing not in the sense of pain, just in the sensation of tremendous pressure. It feels like I'm sinking into myself under the weight. As it gets more pronounced I find it hard to not get a fear reaction and pull myself out of it, breaking the paralysis too. Although if I don't move to much I can easily induce the paralysis and energy sensations again. On some occasions my mind feels stretched during this state, sometimes seemingly across to infinity.
 I generally feel this kind of paralysis/energy sensation after becoming immersed in an hypnopompic scenario - during the scenario I feel the potential for the paralysis state and move towards it.

 Has anyone experienced similar sensations or have any tips/methods on reducing their severity? I've been experiencing SP for over 20 years so the state usually holds no fear for me.

 
Any help would be appreciated.
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