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1  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Higher astral projection or f4 on: August 30, 2019, 12:30:47
To give a fair and more comprehensive answer to your question, you need to describe what you think are the RTZ and lower astral dimensions. We might be or might not be in agreement on those areas of experience.

And Nameless' question about #1, being stuck in a belief system is NOT just about being limited by a certain religious belief system. As human beings trying to interpret our experiences on Earth in Physical Reality or our Non-Physical experiences, we are necessarily using some form of a set of interpretation methods and models, and these are by their very nature imperfect and inaccurate to some degree. So we each naturally develop our own individual model for interpreting our sense of the Wider Reality, with the provisional understanding that it is always going to be somewhat imperfect. In my own case, I try to stay open to a little of everything, from current scientific thought, to Quantum physics, to a little Christianity, Buddhism, Taoism, Theosophy, occult magic, chakra energy, multiple energy bodies and so forth. I incorporate a little from each discipline that seems to make sense at the time, and when my experience discounts one idea, I set it aside or drop it altogether and move on. This is my current interpretive framework; my template. It is also my current belief system yet I understand that it is necessarily imperfect and incomplete. So, in this sense, we are all caught within some form of belief system, ultimately one of our own creation.

My development over 50 plus years has very much mirrored that of what Kurt Leland writes about, so his words resonate with me to a high degree. So, in describing the "higher dimensions" he talks about the necessity to develop the etheric body, the astral, mental, causal and higher bodies; and I have experienced what appears to be a similar trajectory in my own development. I had an early talent for OBE, but as for moving into the "higher realms" I had to work up to it the way most seem to be required; there were no shortcuts.

So my only answer for you can be to describe how I had to do it...and quite frankly, I am still working at it and will always have to as far forward as I can see, Lol.

My interpretive model sees it this way: The RTZ is the playground and early school of the etheric body; it is the first and most obvious energy body or vessel that our consciousness can transfer into. The environment is very limited to within about 50 feet of our physical body. Moving beyond this 50 foot range, we normally lose awareness or automatically shift into the next energy body- the astral; but it has to be developed enough for this transition to happen without losing consciousness. A fair amount of time can be required operating in the etheric and you may feel inhibited in your development, but certain lessons must be learned here, certain energetic and cognitive developments must occur and this can take some time and be a cause for frustration.

Now actually the astral body is the easier body to move into, because we do it normally every night when we dream; it is also the dreaming body. It operates within the personal dream space which is part of the lower astral. As our experiences become more focused within this astral body, more cognitive and energetic developments occur and this requires some time. You may become aware and frustrated that your experiences are restricted to your own personal dream world and you cannot move higher. This realization is, in and of itself, a good insight that you are continuing to develop; although I have certainly shared the frustration at this level. There are VERY MANY lessons to be learned during this time...and quite frankly dealing with patience and frustration is one of them...I definitely suffered from it.

If you haven't realized it yet, then in the lower astral you have to get your emotions under complete control. This starts with fear and the sexual urge. If you are still prone to freaking out and running away at the first sign of something scary, or trying to have sex with every entity that you encounter, then they don't let you go any farther into the astral. They simply do not tolerate immature behavior. You are kept cordoned off in your own dream world until you display some control. After that is the frustration, confusion, anger, lack of concentration...just read my posts and you can see what I had to go through, Lol...and I am still not done!

And it is not like you get a report card every quarter, so it can be difficult in determining your progress; this is where a journal becomes invaluable, because as you read back through your experiences you begin to see the trace of your development.

It is an incredible teaching system because it absolutely demands your participation and your attention. There are no awards for simply showing up on time.

There can be brief exceptions granted, like when I was taken to see my father 3 months after he died. I knew that I did not make that journey by myself; I had assistance and guidance. I had a chaperone.

If you persevere with this, if you get your emotions and thinking under control, and if you make a sincere commitment to helping others in this vast Multiverse we call home...then they will let you in the front door all while keeping a close eye on you.

You can go to The Monroe Institute or one of their ancillaries in some other countries. Within their weeklong courses, there are processes that push and assist you up into these higher dimensions- The Afterlife Reception center, the Park, the Healing and Rejuvenation Center, the Akashic Records...it's all there in what they call Focus 27. That is what it took for me to get there on a repeatable basis; some of us need a boost like that to get there the first few times, but yeah, I can confirm its existence. Once you are experiencing at this level, it is a sign that you have moved your consciousness into the mental energy body. At the same time you will likely be getting fragmented experiences of the next higher bodies, the causal and the buddhic...and it moves upward from there. I don't know...I will let you know when I get there! Lol!

At least from the perspective of my imperfect, inaccurate belief system model...


That’s interesting.. thank you for sharing ur knowledge! 😊
2  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Higher astral projection or f4 on: August 30, 2019, 07:25:57
Thank you! Ill try the number 2.. I dont have any religious beliefs so number 1 is not an issue
3  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Higher astral projection or f4 on: August 29, 2019, 11:15:16
How do I do regression and have you had experience with this?
4  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Higher astral projection or f4 on: August 29, 2019, 09:42:14
You could do that through self life-between-lives regression, if you leave behind all beliefs, preconceptions, expectations. If you don't, you'll just imagine things.

On the other hand ... maybe everything is imagination.

So you’re saying I can’t achieve this with regular astral projection?
5  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Higher astral projection or f4 on: August 29, 2019, 07:13:33
So I have had successful projections but how do I go to higher dimensions? Its seems like im stuck in rtz or lower astral. How do I go to F4 or what some would call “higher spiritual dimensions”?
6  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Affirmations for phasing suggestions on: August 24, 2019, 11:46:48
I need suggestion for a good affirmations to aid in phasing.. thank u!  smiley
7  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Living in the present moment on: October 18, 2016, 11:25:36
Advice?  Just slow down.

People are rushing around too much today...
Take in everything around you.

Love.  Love your family.  Love your friends.  Love those you don't know.  Love requires you to live in the NOW.

Love me 😘😘
8  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: You know this technique? Please read! on: August 06, 2016, 04:11:46
Share your nde here
9  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What are the top most damaging things for the soul? on: August 06, 2016, 03:54:30
Abuse
10  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: You know this technique? Please read! on: August 06, 2016, 01:13:27
You sure you're not that person who wrote the account?  shocked
11  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / You know this technique? Please read! on: August 05, 2016, 19:24:44
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Experiences/marina_p_ndelike.htm
12  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Pokemon Go! on: July 24, 2016, 00:16:07
I did but I run out of pokeballs im in lv 6 😞😂
13  Energy Body and The Chakras / Welcome to Energy Body and The Chakras / Re: How do I open my third eye? on: November 09, 2015, 23:25:16
You might try the circulation of white light /middle pillar .  There are a bunch of different methods posted on you tube and on different web sites . I have one version posted on s.f. . I can post a link if asked .

How long or how often did you practice this ritual till you were able to perceive with your astral eye?
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Seeing the Spirit World /Third Eye Opening on: October 29, 2015, 10:17:59
What are those ceremonies? Any book or techniques you can share or recommend?
15  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Seeing the Spirit World /Third Eye Opening on: October 27, 2015, 04:01:55
How did you guys open your third eye? Were there specific technique or practices that could have triggered it?
16  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Doorway on: August 21, 2015, 07:26:23
What kind of chair are you using? I tried usimg chair but it feels uncomfortable and it gives strain on my neck and back..
17  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Doorway on: August 18, 2015, 04:56:25
You just describe exactly how i experience and do it!  grin grin
18  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Doorway on: August 17, 2015, 15:10:08
Wow this is what ive been using everytime i have a successful astral projection! I imagine myself in a beautiful nature like seashore
19  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: How many of you can say this is REAL? on: August 17, 2015, 13:01:23
I can say this is real through energy works.. Try pranic healing, reiki, qi qong, violet flame and mantras. This stuff makes you sense and feel non physical energy that the conventional science never believed in.. As a pranic healer myself i healed several people already and they felt the energy even the skeptics. This is enough for me to know that we are more than just the physical body
20  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Mantras and Time Distortion on: April 23, 2015, 07:57:56
What mantra are you using?
21  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: How effective do you guys think magick and spells are? on: March 03, 2015, 01:41:27
Visualization is a very weak thoughtform creation.. One has to feed their thoughtform with emotions, thought, intent, will and physical body..this way the thoughtform will be powerful enough to manifest your desire.. An example of this is writing down your desire, while writing down your desire feel the emotion of accomplishment while you are imagining of already having what you desire, the written words(ink and paper) will serve as the physical body of your thoughtform..this is how sigil works or any other spells, some people paint or draw their desire, some performs a ritual..the important is you give your thoughtform a link to the physical world
22  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: How effective do you guys think magick and spells are? on: February 28, 2015, 05:17:25
Intent is not enough, you have to create a powerful thoughtform
23  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Whats more Fun ? on: February 13, 2015, 03:37:28
For me its astral projection as its more like a fantasy world.. While lucid dreaming still feels like you are still in a physical body and your sorroundings pretty much look like the physical plane
24  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What is "real"? on: December 23, 2014, 00:58:50
Our soul and the source is the only thing that is real for me.. Everything else is projected illusion
25  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Meditation question on: December 17, 2014, 06:56:06
If your goal for meditation is just for stress relief and to experience inner bliss and well being then I suggest using Sanskrit and Buddhist mantras.. You don't have to quite your mind the mantra will do it for you and it will raise your vibration you would be smiling the entire day  grin  smiley
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