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1  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Spirits' Involvment in the Astral & Social Classing on: June 21, 2008, 15:30:47
liam,
  Regarding your concern about wealth, are you aware of the
fact that many spiritualists summon or conjure spirits in order
to guide them into wealth?  There are even claims that one
can summon knomes (fairies) to bring them all the treasures
or wealth that they may require.  Networking is another way
to do this, join the Masons...
  Also keep in mind that your financial status may turn out to be
a blessing, the only way that you were able to do the work that
you've accomplished; and to stay on track.
myst...
   
2  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Spirits' Involvment in the Astral & Social Classing on: June 20, 2008, 11:59:18
Here's another from the Hubbard/Parsons Legacy...

Demons incarnate, living as humans in our midst; moving openly and freely, yet undetected by the masses, or even their hosts. Like the spasms of a decapitated body, the fact of the matter, that's precisely what it is; if you really think about it. Their illusions are many, which overtake the sleepwalking masses. Now know that they do take flesh and come among men, to mold a new species.

The new species, all their daughters to be ravished every hour, from their youth. Even ravished by demons while they asleep. She is but a harlot, her many bedfellows, yet sweet and innocent to those who know her not. All of her whoredoms shall be kept hidden from the rest of her bedfellows. Cast out your nasty whores, and burn her clothes, and then I will come and dwell amongst you......

Yea, right...... A total destruction and re-engineering of the entire human race (a new species). Causing/beguiling children to subconsciously summon satan, for power and/or money, yet the truth of it is that it is the spirits who live, planning their own lives, just playing around with our minds, as a prank, a joke, to laugh, to snicker, as a sport. Haven't we all been there? This truly defines the mystery of fornication, and the sanctity of the religious whore. Imagine such a family, your neighbors, or even five generations alive and present, of the same. The mother smiles, snarls, proudly, audibly and visibly, brags about the fact that she taught her children nothing; no decency, no moral values, no laws, no character, loose as a goose, easy as pie. Now realize that we are all born into this snare, captivity/zombie/as livestock/as produce, to mold the new species. Urged with lusts, for lace, perfumes, fetishes, and to eat of her dainties; urged to "party". Yea, they say, "Who shall see it??" Yea, they say, "Die young, and stay pretty!".

3  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Spirits' Involvment in the Astral & Social Classing on: June 20, 2008, 04:00:27

None of us are what we should have been,
would have been, or could have been.  This
is due to the fact that spirit has all of us
side-tracked; and are using humanity for
their own indulgence (flesh), to their own
agenda. Our own minds/creativity is quite
neutralized, being held in captivity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization_disorder

myst....

   
 
4  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Spirits' Involvment in the Astral & Social Classing on: June 19, 2008, 14:42:40

Here is the article I was speaking about, astral negs unjustifiable:
http://www.xeeatwelve.net/articles/rags_to_riches.html
5  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Spirits' Involvment in the Astral & Social Classing on: June 19, 2008, 02:09:02
Yea, but whose Karma?  I recently was reading an article referring to
the astral negs as "unjust/unfair karma".  Just that humanity is superceded.
I could see how a spirit or spirit possessed astral might attach himself
(the duo) to someone for a little sadism or payback, or even classing,
resulting in the triad.

Just a prank that went too far?  Just a big smear campaign to try to
conceal the truth of it; and to "take one more"?  Likely, it's just
the nature of the beast.... Nothing better to do....

Again, those with conscious lower astral attachments seem to get the
worst of it, a red flag for sure...

Agree?  Any similar observations or feedback appreciated...

Myst...
6  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Spirits' Involvment in the Astral & Social Classing on: June 18, 2008, 09:38:49
Hello,

  I have made a few observations regarding the astral, and I'm wondering if
others might be able to clarify; or at least comment on their own observations
or beliefs.

  Appears that spirit is always involved in "all" astral activity, and I keep asking
myself why they would want to use our image (astral bodies).  Is it simply that
they are already "in", have taken flesh; and are just fooling around? Sure, spirit
uses humanity to take flesh. Sure, spirit uses the human for a little astral
myschief.  Sure, spirit uses the astral as a mask.

  Spirit also classes humanity, predestines many of our lives; decides who will
be educated and not, white or blue collar, social butterfly or not, even determines
lifespans accordingly.  This is done simply when certain spirits are placed or allowed;
however that goes.... Sure, classing and the illumnati, the elect, always one step
ahead of the middle and lower classes.  Intimidation and exploitation (schemers),
vanity/superiority, where really none of them appear to be very bright (which is but
another scheme).

It's also become obvious to me that the classing system is very obvious to the
spirits; that they know almost instantly who is what class.  How is this done? Is it simply
that the presence of any lower astrals or ugly scavenger types are what establishes the
marker/classing, a flashing sign on his/her back?  Those humans with conscious Astral
attachments would be a red flag, for sure.

Of coarse, in all cases of plurality/possession, it is spirit who lives, not humanity; nor
the astrals...

Please Comment...

Thanks,
myst




 
7  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: One eye opened OBE on: May 17, 2008, 14:33:18

Similar experience on google groups:
http://tinyurl.com/6dab8k
8  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Travel ETA (MPH?) on: March 14, 2008, 13:54:52
15 or 20 minutes
9  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Travel ETA (MPH?) on: March 14, 2008, 02:43:42
Hello,
  Can some please give me an estimate of time to travel 800 miles, in mph,
USA, major city to major city over dry land, no clouds?  Would you travel
known route, over known highways?  Thanks in Advance....
myst....
10  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: One eye opened OBE on: February 03, 2008, 17:41:55
Hello,

  Possessed by an astral or being subconsciously OBE (astral)
would produce this same phenomenon: "DOUBLEVISION".

There is a very similar and related thread HERE

11  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Anyone here do conscious OBE (while on your feet)? on: February 03, 2008, 11:32:14
snake,
   I edited and modified the above; added links and added
another relative post above.  The yahoo post, he says
that he's done astral since age 2. Here is the entire post
of his, from yahoo, word for word, so you wont have to wait:

Quote
Hi Tim,

I am curious about what you said regarding OBE in our condition. I use
to astral travel since I was 2, on and off walking around our front
yard. That was a long time ago and when I reach 12 my memory surface of
walking around that yard. I was wondering where some of my memories are
coming from. Our voices hearing apparatus and our OBE are they still
connected. I use to love exploring the etherien realm and made half of
my friends from the other side. Since now that I hear them we speak of
safety and since the last 2 years and a half of hearing they recommend
me not to astral travel at all. They will not tell me much other then
"darling, do not look into the mirror if you astral out". I often do
when I travel, I like to see whose face I will be, but my new guardian
said until the transfusion is complete he will not recommended me to
attempt that act for now.

Due to my astral at since a young ages I become very religious seeking
guardian, and very spiritual due to the need to understand since we are
not ground to flesh body it become a frighten world for me.

I seek answer where ever it leads me, remote viewing, channeling,
spiritual book reading, and more religion to some extent, although I
never practice any satanic like ritual, or witch craft, I do have a
friends that are wicca. During all of those travels I can never hear
them, but now the two worlds are colliding, I don't know what to
expect. Not sure what to expect of my life both day life and night
life.

The reason why that is, is also because sometime I have no control over
when it is safe to just walking around the house. I often walk around
the house without the intention of going out. Some time I would know
that I was out when I accidentally walk through solid objects.

Do you have recommendation of what is to come if this were to happen to
me again and the phase of body slide happen.

I know my little human mind may not be able to accept what is on the
other side. I know I also have been exposing myself to a lot of life
forms from many quandrons and many pockets and some are quite frighten
to be in. They are all here now talking to me and a lot of them do
understand about my human side and is patiently waiting for me to be
complete in the transfusion.

I remember chasing the Haley's comment because I missed during its
passing by that year. After the initial jump I have no idea where I end
up at, but the tail end was a site to see up close. When two worlds
collide is gonna gets more crazy for me. During these 2 1/2 years my
new guardians urge me not to explore yet. The "yet' is what I am afraid
off.

Thanks again Tim and other who have the two world colliding.

Soltec, is talking actually, hi mike never been to be insulting our
human vet.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/voice-hearers/message/17156
12  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Anyone here do conscious OBE (while on your feet)? on: February 03, 2008, 10:54:46
dotster,

  First, let me paste this message from elsewhere, which will
confirm my own observations thereafter:

### Paste from astralpulse.com ###
I have had a couple eye open obe. in one of them i could i could
see both in the astral and in my bedroom at the same time. it was
a very strange experience, it was like my vision of the astral and
my bedroom was overlapping.


### Paste from Yahoo VH Group ###
My spirit guides and I, we speak of safety and since the
last 2 years and a half of hearing they recommend me not to
astral travel at all. They will not tell me much other then
"darling, do not look into the mirror if you astral out". I often do
when I travel, I like to see whose face I will be, but my new
guardian said until the transfusion is complete he will not
recommended me to attempt that act for now.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/voice-hearers/message/17156
### END PASTE ###

   It's commonly agreed that spirits will steal and use our image while
we sleep. Most of us see it, the bilocating, only while asleep. 
Common sense seems to suggest that we may become perrmenantly
dislodged from the body; and are therefore permenantly bilocating,
yet unaware.  Those with conscious OBE seem to be built a little
differently, with "doublevision" (bilocation vision) skills. Conscious obe
seems to be affirmation, confirmation, suggesting that the bilocating
may be permenant, in both sleep and wake states.  Is the silva cord
merely an illusion, another lie?  Most of us have subconsciously sensed
/seen/known this for decades, in the back of our minds. 

  Any feedback is welcome.

myst...
13  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Anyone here do conscious OBE (while on your feet)? on: January 29, 2008, 00:26:12
Little Joe,
  I can do it, but not intentionally.  I also know a young
woman who has done this since age 4, verified by her mother.
"Doublevision" is the term I've always heard used for this, as you
are in two places at once. 
myst.... 
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Anyone here do conscious OBE (while on your feet)? on: January 28, 2008, 20:55:15

Anyone here do conscious OBE (while on your feet)?
PM me if you'd prefer.  I need some advice re:negs

Thanks in Advance,
myst...
15  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Problems with Glass on: January 17, 2008, 05:52:33
Hi,

Eye Open OBE (conscious obe)
http://tinyurl.com/ysrhbn

myst59
16  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Problems with Glass on: January 11, 2008, 00:37:42
amo,
  Interesting, in that glass is actually at the lower end of
the scale as far as density. For anyone that may want to
experiment:   
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/periodic/density.html
myst...
17  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Problems with Glass on: January 07, 2008, 23:41:55
Glass bogs me down, stuck, where I have to roll my self away from it.
I guess it must be shapeshifting, dont' want the truth to come out; 
or maybe it prefers delusions of grandeur.
myst...
18  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Problems with Glass on: January 07, 2008, 07:43:22
PS: Exterior walls of most houses contain fiberglass
(insulation).  Also of interest, may be "wool".
myst...
19  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Problems with Glass on: January 06, 2008, 21:14:44
Pasting these from older threads.  Just that sthomo's
post, first sentence seems related:

Recentaly I've been playing around with how it feels to go though different materials out-of-body.

Any feedback appreciated...

Quote
Occurred to me today that we may be able to find resolve via the astral forums on the web. My thoughts are that we could look therein to find people who do conscious OBE, the advanced stuff. Forum moderators might point us in the right direction, and to certain posts which would verify conscious OBE (doublevisioner=DV). From there, I'm thinking that we could befriend them and try to tug at their heartstrings, to see what they might might have to offer/find/experiment as far as resolve. Just that only they have the ability to experiment.
Well, just my 2 cents,
Joni

Cheers,
It just occurred to me that there might be some here who
are experienced OBEers, while fully conscious/awake; and moving
around the house. I know I've seen them standing in my mirror, &
I in theirs.
Well, it dawned on me today that such individuals
would be able to experiment, in order to find objects,
materials, or states in which the astral negs would not be able
to physically withstand, would have to leave the situation. For instance,
there has been talk that astrals avoid running water, certain stones,
metals, magnets, etc, but has anyone here actually tested any of these
things for himself, remote, and awake, to see any physical reaction?
Anyone making a list, cause/reaction? Yea, looking for that "silver
bullet"; implant. I do know one thing, that the cause would have to be
a permenantly fixed object. Well; any feedback would be appreciated;
& contact me privately if preferred.
Just trying to consider a little reverse psychology, and/or asking
that spirit move, here, to such resolve. One would think that
with negs, bickering and frustration, that one would get fed-up and
spill the beans, give it up, spread the gospel, would even be able to
take the credit (justice) for it.
Anyone know what happened to usenet OBE user Peanut/Tony, from
a few years back? Just that he began obe at age 12, appeared credible,
respected. I know one woman who began at age 4. I'll google....
Interesting stuff, please consider,
myst...

Hello,
   Many governments reportedly are now using Astral and Remote
Viewing for intelligence and defense purposes.  Some of these people
can literally walk on both sides of the veil, while conscious, awake.
If this is true, then such peeps, if approached about it, might well be
willing to work with the major scientific and pharmaceutical research
groups, for possible resolve, to try to banish negs using elements from
the elemental table. Could you imagine a Neg Spray?  How about a Neg
Pill?   
Ela


20  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Problems with Glass on: January 04, 2008, 09:48:08
Grey,
It is a world wide web,
myst....
21  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Analysis of Projection on: January 01, 2008, 18:45:30
sthomo,

  Is English your first language?  Your scientific interest in this phenomenon
has me wondering if you are aware of Governmental study and use of OBE/Astral 
for Foriegn Intelligence Operations and Strategy?   I would tend to think that
only practitioners able to do conscious OBE (while awake) would ever be considered. 
This eliminates any chance of vivid dream illusions.

myst...
22  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Re: Witches Counteraction to Witches (astral) on: December 13, 2007, 08:41:04
  Thanks for the feedback. Holy water sounds a bit like
the witch bottle to me, at this point.  I recently had
someone tell me that the free online book called Compte
de Gabalis may hold clues.  Isn't it strange that people
come here, to the root of the problem, the obe-ers, to
try and find resolve?  My own thinking is that some here
may actually work for the right, at least may think to
work for the right...
Oh well...
myst.....   
23  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Witches Counteraction to Witches (astral) on: December 10, 2007, 00:53:03
Healing Discussion
Re: Witches Counteraction to Witches (astral)

Can someone please point me in the right direction? What's tried and true here? 
It's beyond herbs and the witch bottle (invocation), at this point. I'm not into
conscious obe, but I"m hoping that someone here might be, who can help me
out here. I need a neg spray and/or medicinal. Zinc, Copper, and Gold seems to
help, but I really don't understand how best to utilize that stuff. I need
something that speaks for itself, a hammer. 
Well, please respond here, post anon if desired, and many many thanks in
advance.

Myst...
24  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Re: How do I find the light again? on: December 10, 2007, 00:44:39
Stars,
   The pentecostals call it "praying through", which is merely
humbling yourself and doing some feverant praying, until you
can get through.  I'm a Louisiana guy that's going through
the same thing your are.  Not only mental darkness, but I
also came down with that staff infection that's been going
around, nearly killed me.  I now see that I could have just
refused treatment, but I feel that maybe the Lord needs me
here to finish the job. I dont' know, I'm kinda floating around
waiting for something to happen here. 
  Hopefully this was just a season that we had to go through,
and the season will soon change.  I'll verify that my email is
correct here so that you or anyone "related" can contact me
if you like.
Myst 
25  Healing / Welcome to Healing discussions! / Re: NEGS: Miracle Resolve Herein? on: June 11, 2007, 09:15:24
Hello,

   Many governments reportedly are now using Astral and Remote
Viewing for intelligence and defense purposes.  Some of these people
can literally walk on both sides of the veil, while conscious, awake.
If this is true, then such peeps, if approached about it, might well be
willing to work with the major scientific and pharmaceutical research
groups, for possible resolve, to try to banish negs using elements from
the elemental table. Could you imagine a Neg Spray?  How about a Neg
Pill?   

Ela
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