Hey Sarah!
I'm with you on the whole label thing. I also completely agree that there's a distinct difference between an OBE and LD/phasing experience -- for the exact reasons you describe. With a traditional OBE, I perceive a seperation from the physical body. The surroundings closely resemble my home. I rarely perceive colors though. To me, everything is pale and semi-transparent. There are some colors, but they appear muted and dull - like faded/washed out water colors.
Now, lucid dreams and phasing -- still struggle with this myself. I don't notice colors when non-lucid and dreaming. But I do when lucid and when phasing. So is it a function of my awareness that makes the colors brighter? Don't know. I have often visited my friend while I was phasing and she was dreaming. Upon waking our perceptions of the surroundings are always consistent -- so it's a verifiable link. With that said, does that imply that I phase into her dream? Or does she (and everyone else) dream on a level/frequency/plane/whatever where phasing occurs? In other words, do dreams and phasing experience occur in the same mental area/frequency/plane? That would explain the difficulties in distinguishing a finite line between the two experiences.
One poster said that our dreams are made up by our minds or we dream in our minds, or something like. I think everything is about mind/consciousness. So in that scenario, yes dreams occur in our mind. But I think everyone's minds are somehow linked/open/available to each other. Thus, if you want to visit someone, you simply think of them. This is how I 'call' my guide when I want her. I think of her or sometimes I simply say her name. When I want to visit my friend, I simply think of her and I'm taken right to her. Everytime I experience these, however, I do not perceive them as different from dreams. Some of them are, depending upon where my guide takes me or where I end up if I focus on the wrong thing. But the point is whether I'm dreaming, visiting another's dream or phasing, I use the same techniques and, for the most part, perceive the surroundings as dream-like -- although I don't like that phrase because it sounds 'not real.'
I do agree that a non-lucid dream is not an OBE or phasing experience. I say this because I do put a lot of emphasis on consciousness. I think if a person isn't aware, their mind tends to 'run-away' with things -- I'm sure I'm not the only one who can attest to that! To me it all boils down to awareness with dreams and phasing.
As for OBEs, it isn't uncommon for me to start with a traditional OBE, walk through my wall to the back yard and then phase somewhere else. That happens quite a bit. So I can start with one experience and choose to make it another.
I suppose, the VERY long answer to your question Sarah, is that I only perceive 3 distinct experiences thus far:
OBE -- classic seperation/muted, semi-transparent surroundings;
lucid dream/phasing -- no perception of seperation/bright colors/conscious decisions and movements
F4 (white light area) -- no colors what-so-ever here/no bodies/integrated minds
I don't know how to label them or what to call them, but I do perceive them as distinctly different from one another. Does that help, or confuse the issue even further!
