In addition, as we are right now, we are harming others, sometimes intentionally sometimes unintentionally. If we have eaten a piece of meat but never killed a larger animal, we are still supporting the idea of eating them, thus enabling those who kill them or raise them in awful conditions where they only suffer. For these animals, humans are the devil. But we don't perceive it that way. Every time we kill flies or spiders, or step on any bugs while walking, that is harming living things. They too have souls. and what about plants. Just because we cant communicate with them, it doesn't mean that they don't feel pian when we rip them from their roots. So, it really is a matter of perception, but this is the nature of these slow game like realities and each of us is playing the part of our current chosen avatar with all of its assigned characteristics.

I'm actually relieved you explained this full description as many people don't see the whole picture. Usually they stop at "dont kill animals" but then don't consider the plants as consciousness and energy. Everything in this existence, whether we relate to it or not, is consciousness. Rocks and minerals too, the air around us, spirits and forces we cannot see, etc. We don't understand them (which is why people don't consider them relevant) and we are placed in the middle of everything intermixed within this structure of laws and limitations (like a game) setup around us. We contribute to the game by acting, reacting, or not acting at all (which is still an active action). This affects absolutely everything around us, whether negatively or positively, depending on all of the individual consciousness' points of views.

Most, if not all of us are ignorant to how much we may impact all of these consciousness' whether positively or negatively, but it's pointless to get caught up in it. In this dualistic experience it's absolutely impossible to keep every single consciousness happy as our individual goals and drives clash completely with each others. But that's okay. It's just good to be the best you can be the best way you know how to at the level of your awareness and understanding. And you have to take care of yourself within all of this balance at the same time, because your body is a consciousness too, as well as your mind, and all the little cells, etc. It's pointless to overthink it in my opinion, but it's good to understand fully.

In my personal beliefs up to this point of my limited experience, all the individual points of consciousness' chose to sign up for this mutual beneficial game that we are playing, so stepping way way back at the full comprehensive picture, you can't really screw it up. It's a crazy experiment we are playing with ourselves.

Related to this, I had this very real experience, believe it or not, when the doctors knocked me out on ketomine popping my shoulder back in. I very strongly felt like this experience we are living is extremely small and insignificant compared to who I truly was. It was like a piece of dust compared to my existence and compared to infinity. All the pressures and beliefs, the struggles, absolutely everything in this perceived existence, in the end doesn't matter, as we are much much bigger than anything you could possibly imagine. It's almost like a feeling of carelessness, but wasn't negative or destructive. It was a positive and creative carelessness which is extremely hard to explain as I've never experienced this feeling it in this actual physical body.

I felt I was truly me, pure consciousness sitting there within my body's chest. I felt omnipotent (like I could do everything and anything), but at the same time, I felt completely comfortable and peaceful staying exactly where I was, within this limited and constricted body. It was okay and where I wanted to be. It was extremely peaceful and loving. I felt some of the strongest feelings I've ever felt in this experience and doubt I would ever be able to reproduce them while still in this physical experience as they were so powerful. Nothing like I've ever remembered experiencing. This experience has stuck with me and is one of the reasons I'm seeking more spiritual truth.

Obviously drugs aren't the answer lol, but I truly believe they can be gateways or glimpses into the larger reality. The real training and discipline is why we are here and is what is necessary for true spiritual development. But I could see how wanting a repeat experience could be extremely addicting and drugs would be the easy button. (But actually it's the HARD button as you are falling for escapism and being lazy avoiding the real training/discipline that is necessary for this type of learning experience.) There is my disclaimer!!

But getting back to the point, this isn't the only experience I've had where I tapped into this feeling of being much larger than this reality. But again, this is my personal viewpoint and belief up to this point. I thought it was relevant to share at this time. Hope you enjoyed reading it!

hi all,

I wanted to check if anyone has experienced hearing a morse code in their ear, meaning not like an external sound but more like tinnitus just not a consistent bussing sound, but clear clicking sounds that very much resemble the morse code with pauses between each potential letter.
I started hearing this when I am relaxed at night, and it comes very suddenly. It is very loud, like clicks, but in a form of dots and dashes, just like the morse code, right in my ear, like coming from my brain almost. From the morse code I only know SOS (... _ _ _ ...)
The weird thing is that as soon as I start writing down the dots and dashes so I can look up the corresponding letters and translate the message
 (if that is a form of attempted communication at all) the sound stops. So, now I will try to learn the morse code to be able to translate as I am listening and see if there is any meaning behind these sounds.

Yeah that would be interesting if you can get a coherent message out of it. I only get the consistent ringing in my ears sometimes louder, sometimes barely audible. If I listen very closely I can always hear it though. But yeah I haven't had what you are describing.

What do you all think? Are negative characters a result of lack of knowledge OR volunteer work. Afterall, we agree that challenges are essential and beneficial for setting up lessons to help us gain knowledge and wisdom. But in order for challenges and hardship to occur, someone needs to cause them. Are the bad guys doing a favor for those who interact with them, because they have their set up to learn? Granted, both sides learn from their experiences, but they need each other's opposing characteristics. And do you think as another character you have been the antagonist?

And yes, this is a great question. Maybe the "bad guys" are actually highly evolved beings that signed up for evolving consciousness through destruction. It is a possibility. And in the end, if you believe in the "we are all one" philosophy, then we are already highly evolved at our core selves and are learning and helping each other grow through contrasting "negative" and "positive" experiences.

I learned an experience from Josephine McCarthy (a modern day magician), that she and her students practiced tarot on one of the older Presidents (She didnt mention which one, but stated it wasn't Trump). The President was signing all sorts of Bills that were detrimental to the country and had no clue why he was doing this. Her and her students asked what type of Spirit was in this person. The results pointed to high evolution, monk-like, and all positive. So that would talk to your point exactly that some highly evolved beings can cause destruction for the benefit of many.

Just had to throw that in there.

Another perspective to add to this discussion is that everyone is just doing what they do. This "game" or "experience" we are all playing in is setup in a way that it is inevitable to step on someone's toes or do harm to others.

For example: A virus in our body is bad according to humans. But as a virus consciousness it is just trying to survive the only way it knows how and the only way it can. Another example: People say the Earth is dying from pollution. But is it? There are billions of planets that are completely toxic (polluted) to human life and they are doing just fine. We always look from a human perspective at things. Hell, maybe the planet wants us the heck off of it and thinks we are little pests that tickle it constantly.

The best thing is to cooperate with as many consciousnesses as possible, but you won't be able to cooperate with all of them. Now if you look in NP terms, there may be certain beings that are setup to cause different energies like destruction (a type of energy which is not good or bad) because that's a way they are setup. Like a demo contractor, their job is to topple buildings in order to make something new and better. It could also be worked into their survival mechanism. But what is that something that they need to survive? What do they want? It would probably be good to find out. Maybe you are threatening their territory, maybe you are like a spider for them or a snake. Poisonous in their eyes. And maybe we are poison for them. There are a lot of unknowns.

Most humans are all after money which is an odd concept for many consciousnesses I'm sure. So assuming we are an evil species because we are not feeding our own kind can be easily perceived. But there is a system in place that they may not be aware of. The money system that is integrated into our every waking day.

But as humans in this game, we cannot be perfect. It isn't setup that way. We cannot please every consciousness there is. If you let all the mosquitoes suck your blood, the mosquitoes will be happy, but you risk dying of a virus. You kill them for survival, or if you can, you find a solution with mutual benefit. Cancer cells or diseased cells are constantly being attacked or destroyed by your blood cells for the good of the human body, but the cancer consciousness would like to live too.

But in essence, we are all doing each other a favour because when we transition through lives and experiences, it's a natural learning process. We think it's scary because dying is unknown or because pain hurts, but we signed up for experiencing a multiple wide range experiences. Some are harder than others, but they are just unique experiences in themselves.

I dunno, that's my take anyways. What do you guys think?

Congrats!!

You mentioned the room you projected into seemed like your bedroom but not totally consistent with Real Life. Yes, that's how it goes. Robert Monroe calls it "reality distortions". It's "real life" but a bit...off. It's not possible to know 100% *why* we experience these distortions, but we do. Possibly the more awake/conscious one is while projecting, the more "clear" the experience? Also, not everything is literal - some things you encounter are information/energy bundles manifesting to you in a particular way that is symbolic of the information being conveyed.

Kudos =)

Yeah the room I was in was pretty similar, but the feeling of the house was definitely different if that makes any sense. In the actual house we are on the top floor, but in the experience it "felt" like there was another floor above us. My vision was too poor to confirm if it was actually different though.

I just had a similar experience last night. (Yay I'm on a roll!) I was dreaming that I was sleeping in bed and woke up drowsy but again the house felt different. It felt like a bungalow. (I get this theme alot actually in my dreams. The house always feels different for some reason.) I was holding an Ipad and my wife was asking me what I was looking at or doing on the Ipad, but I didnt know because I was too drowsy. And then I sort of mumbled that I thought I was about to astral project.

At that point I heard a sound similar to a car with subwoofers blasting bass down the street and then I felt the falling or dropping sensation and knew this was a sign of AP. So I sat up right away, but only saw a foggy blue hue for a second and snapped back into my body and woke up. I think I reacted too quickly on that opportunity. I should have eased into it more.

Omcasey,
That sounds like a good practice. I’ve heard that the breath is important for relaxation and many other things. I’ve recently been having trouble getting visual feedback from the void, so I’ll definitely start practicing this!!

 I used to have no problem attaining the level of intense visuals as long as I kept up my daily meditations, but for some reason it hasn’t returned to the way it was. Maybe this is why. Thanks for sharing!

I think a lot of people's fascination with the occult and darkness in general is the same as it is with Astral Travels, it's the "unknown" that drives us in to it.

I’ve already gone through a few “dark” times in my life. I actually got sick of it, the victim and destructive mentality. I plunged right into the darkest things I knew at the time, but I believe it was a good experience because I now know who and what I want to be much more now. I don’t need anymore of that dark stuff lol. But I do like to hear peoples opinions as sometimes after thinking out a problem fully, you discover some answers.

What interests me in magick is the unknown of course as well as self development. The same reason I’m fascinated by AP. Self development has always interested me since I was a teenager. I’ve read a ton of books in the self development space and started running out of material to read and started venturing into this area and started to become fascinated by it.

I’m looking forwards to the learning experiences and try to keep an open and skeptical mind. I’ve read some books on Fear and merging with your “shadow self” which is also interesting. On this they say in dreams you should spread love or hug your “enemies” as they are actually yourself. The shadow enemy becomes a beautiful being or dissolves. And I know that many people here believe AP and dreams to be the same so Im assuming this could be done as well. There are many positive experiments I would like to try in these unknown realms.

It’s just getting to that point where I can have these experiences more regularly is the hurdle for me. Slowly but surely it will come I’m sure. Patience and practice is always key in acquiring new skills.

Interesting. Thank you for taking the time to elaborate.

Yes, I knew someone when I was a child that went through some spiritual interference. Most people thought she was going insane, but my mom was her best friend and she always felt drawn to one room in her house. She would stay there for hours at a time. It turned from a small obsession into dramatically interfering in her life. Eventually it got to a point that she thought she was going to die and had no escape.

Long story short, my mom and a group of people ended up cleaning the energy in the house with Jesus' name etc. After that everything was back to normal. Turned out the house was built on native grounds, but I'm not sure if that had a direct relation to it. She saw the "family" of the being or ghost multiple times, but never saw the actual tormenter himself. She cold just feel his strong presence.

This might be different than what is going on here (as I don't quite fully understand it yet), but it's good to never underestimate these other energies or forces and invite them into your experience.

Lumaza, did you find the Magick practice to benefit you? Right now I am learning about Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bardon and find it very interesting, but I'm being careful not to delve into the darker sides of this Magick practice as I've learned it can have deep consequences. I like so far that it trains the mind, focus, and visualization. Great skills to learn for sure.

In my opinion she just got offended from people's opinions. If you put your thoughts on a forum or anywhere really, people are going to have opinions, and you're probably not going to like most of them especially if they have to do with "darkness" which is a pretty vague term in itself. People tend to associate darkness with evil so it's just a miscommunication or misunderstanding.

I find miscommunication and misunderstanding is one of the biggest hurdles which make people have the feeling, "I am misunderstood" or "No one else feels what I feel or knows how I feel". Sure they do, it's just that most people don't know how to communicate their perspective effectively, and that mostly has to do with this clumsy thing called language. Telepathy would be a much more effective communication tool.

I'm hoping tolerance becomes more of a trend in the future as I find that many people nowadays get offended too easily by other people's opinions and lose the opportunity to understand what they are going through and to develop fully. Resorting to hating people is similar to hating yourself as that's essentially what you are doing.

I learned this huge lesson when I sold cars. People are going to have very strong opinions that you hate or clash completely with your deep beliefs, but that is okay. You can accept them anyways. You can't expect everyone to understand your perspective as we are all learning in our own way. And freedom of speech allows us to learn from each other regardless of opinion.

I find what she said about dark beings interesting and would like to learn more from her perspective personally. I think its very interesting as I do many things on this forum!!

Wow, those are some pretty amazing experiences.

The electric blue portal is interesting as I have seen something like this before. It looked as real (if not more so) as staring at it in real life would be. It looked very chaotic like it was tearing through the ether or something and there was no sound, but looking into the other side was super peaceful. I couldn't keep up the visuals though as I was sweating and freaking out inside at how real it was.

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Wow, very cool LightBeam!

I believe Orgone or Orgonites do similar things that Pyramids do. I bought one at my old house and the lady who sold it to me told us not to put in in our bedroom right away as we have to adjust to the energies. And she was right. I had a headache for a couple days after even though it was out in the dining room. Then after that we were fine and brought it beside our bed.

Later, I made some orgonites myself after researching about how to do it. I watched a random video on youtube of a guy pointing one at a random cloud outside and it started to disappear. I initially thought this was an edited video, but it was such a crappy butt homemade video so it couldn't have been. Unfortunately, I can't find the exact video now as it was already deep in the youtube archives.

So after making my own, I tested it out. And it blew my mind. It actually made small clouds vanish into thin air when you pointed it at them. So there's definitely some type of powerful energy there that we can't see. I told my mom about it and she was skeptical so I brought her one and showed her and we melted a small cloud right then and there. So strange.

We also experimented with freezing water that was underneath an orgonite (as I saw videos of this as well). We did a test with and without. The result was pretty crazy. Normal ice is very blurry but the orgone ice condensed the blurriness into the center of the ice like a vortex and the ice was crystal clear surrounding the vortex with strand-like patterns coming out of the vortex area. Reminds me of Dr Emoto's water experiments. Heres a video of what I witnessed which is actually more pronounced with the blue dye added: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5JvwimAR18
Here's another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjybPYOWMck

But now I've moved from the country and didn't bring any of these items with me, so I'll have to build myself a pyramid or something haha.

Digging up a bit of an older thread here, but I've had a lot of pyramid fascination in the last few weeks reading anything I could get my hands on about "Pyramid Power" and Sacred Geometry.

It's interesting because I was reading about how the pyramids should be created from organic material for the most powerful effects. I created a small pyramid out of these wooden skewers and that night I had a lucid dream followed by the classic OBE experience that I've been talking about on this forum here and there. Coincidence? Maybe. But worth a note. I haven't had a lucid dream in a long time.

I watched a few videos from this guy on youtube who is a fan of Russian Pyramids and explains why in some of his videos. He thinks they are the perfect design for a pyramid because all of the geometries fit inside of it. Very interesting. He makes them out of PVC pipes and people are claiming that they have healed many things due to the pyramid alone from the conscious torsion energy coming off of it.
Here's his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKXZH0_An1AlC_-9889djHQ

Apparently these pyramid shapes are more effective using organic materials rather than metals. Makes sense as the Egyptian Pyramids and all the others in the world are probably made of organic materials for a reason.

The Russian's who designed these large pyramids also found a lot of interesting results that would occur when exposed to the pyramid, like water not freezing in -30 temps and other interesting facts. They did a bunch of tests.
Here's the link for some of the results they found: http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/research.htm

This is fascinating to me. When obsessing over these pyramids, I was meditating one day and a thought of a TeePee popped into my mind. It's this shape that amplifies energies. TeePees are also made of sticks (organic materials) and as we know, the natives that slept in these were very spiritual people performing AP and shapeshifting etc.

I then read about the connection to TeePees and Pyramids as cone shaped geometries which create a spiralling energy or torsion field that amplifies thoughts and manifestations. It's like a megaphone. Same shape. So when in or near a pyramid it amplifies energy. It's definitely an interesting theory.

Have any of you had any direct experience with pyramids or meditated in one?

Great initial post Floriferous! Very thought provoking.

Hey Nameless,

I want to project mainly for spiritual growth. Before I got into this, I never remembered any lucid dreams or AP's, I just read about them. And reading about them intrigued me so much. (Growing up, I always thought a lucid dream was just a vivid dream, not actually being able to be conscious inside the dream.) When I learned about this it fascinated me and I read a bunch of books on it.

When I was little I had some very significant dreams that had very unique symbolism in them. One of them told the future in my life symbolically. But I never had any (or remembered any) lucid dreams/projections.

I believe there is a lot of mystery, more questions, but also a ton to learn from doing this practice. I personally feel like it's an important step for me to go through spiritually.

And as for what I hope to gain? I want to be able to find out the best way of how I can do my part towards assisting in people's enlightenment or moving the collective to a higher state of consciousness for the betterment of everyone. I know that this starts with me, so that is another reason why I want to learn this skill.

Another reason is to master my fears. I don't feel like I have much fear in my life at all, but I know deep inside there is fear there as fears can be very deep within us and control us subconsciously.

I have never experienced beings changing in front of me. But I have seen faces (that I don't recognize from waking state) in the hypnogogic imagery that seem pretty realistic. All human looking faces. I've also had lucid dreams that are a bit more on the cartoony side. But I have yet to have a very realistic experience. (other than the classic OBE experience, but it was very foggy) I think my awareness has to develop more.

I've been practicing to be with the darkness in front of my eyes and be aware of the scenes that come in. Staying aware of the imagery to the point of entering the reality is much easier said than done. I've done it once by fluke where I randomly started imagining myself doing handstands and after a few attempts at getting my handstand, I popped into a scene. That was a bit more on the realistic side, but I didn't see anyone in the dream.

But, the classic OBE experience I had was just freaky. And seemed very realistic, but I didn't see anyone there either. It's also interesting how the next day the experience lessens/fades a bit in your mind to try to convince you that it wasn't as real as you initially thought. Almost like a distant memory. It's very interesting.

Hey omcasey,

That is really cool that you are learning the abilities to show a tid bit of what you are seeing to the world through crystals. It is very interesting and brings up another unique skill we can develop and use to get us all closer to getting to know the metaphysical other than whats already out there (like channeling etc). Just another path opening up.

I liked what you said about that when the collective consciousness continues to awaken, these beings will express themselves more with our permission. I feel like we've already been in quite a shift in consciousness these past few years. I definitely have and feel like it's still happening more and more.

Your words also jumped out at me when you were talking about the beings first showing up as cartoon-like, and then more and more become real like in this 3d reality. (Ive heard that it can become even more real than this reality) This explains my lucid dreams being more cartoon-like at times and how my more classic OBE experience seemed much more real and intimidating.

I agree with Lumaza with the interviewer trying to compare her abilities with yours. A big sign of lack of confidence on her part which is interesting for me seeing it in the spiritual space, but hey, we are all beings learning how to become better. Being a good interviewer does really take a lot of practice.

Omcasey, I've actually watched a couple of your videos on youtube before I knew that it was you here on the forum. That's super cool! I'm planning on going through your training on AP on the youtube playlist there. I watched the first video and you have a very interesting and valuable perspective on it.

Hi, it's me again!

I saw some old posts about this deep in the archives, but have any of you more modern members previously practiced or are currently practicing Franz Bardon's Initiation into Hermetics, or one of the other more advanced books of his?

If you have been doing the practices, how do you like them? And how long have you been doing them? Have you gotten any personal results or achieved anything substantial in your point of view?

A couple years ago I got as far as the second trainings, but I've started again. My focus has gotten much better and more coincidences have started happening in my life. I feel like my intuition is getting stronger as well.

I've learned about many different teachings and find that this book has some very advanced techniques in comparison. But that's just what I've been exposed to. Aleister Crowley probably has a lot of good teachings too, I just don't like how dark and reckless his stuff is. Bardon's character seems to be very moral and cautious.

Yeah this is a great website. I am not an avid regular of this site, but I bounce back and forth between usage and I always get inspired and love talking to you guys when Im here.

If you guys are on Telegram, there are a lot of groups on there. That is initially how I found out about Astral Pulse actually. There was a guy on there on an AP group that told me about this forum and then I joined. There are a ton of new APers that have no clue how to AP and finding the right info is very hard to find. This site is a goldmine in that regard.

On another note though, there is a big barrier to entry on this website. I followed this website for a few months before I actually joined. And when I wanted to join I emailed I believe 4-5 admins and finally got one to add me as a user. So that may be another reason why not many people are joining.

I know that it's because the admins probably get a ton of spam, but there should be a way to separate that somehow with all this modern tech these days.

Also, what you guys said about practice groups and coming together, I think this is important as well. Connection is important and dedicated motivation/practice in the spiritual arts/sciences I believe is very necessary. This was done in ancient times then hid into secret societies, but there is no reason to hide anymore. I think there is much power in groups.

I read an analogy in a dream book that went something like this: (Im probably butchering it)
"A single drop of water will not make it to the ocean, but many drops will form a river and carry along many to the ocean."

Here is a passage from John Astin which I think is pertinent and full of wisdom...

One moment there is an experience of being at peace, happy, and centered. And then for whatever reason the experience fades. We sense that the peace we had a moment ago is now gone...So, we set out on a journey to try to recapture it  - we do spiritual practices, try to relax, go on retreat or vacation.

But to live this way is to live in bondage, for the truth is that all states and experiences, whether profoundly satisfying or horrifically painful, are transitory. Their nature is to not remain. And as long as we continue to seek our ultimate satisfaction and fulfillment through obtaining and holding on to particular experiences, we will forever live in a state of fear for we will know on a very deep level that we're standing on shaky ground.

We will be forever frustrated, attempting to hold onto what cannot be held, trying with all our might to keep the clouds from changing.

But there is a way out of this prison: Simply stop feeding the mind's habit of dividing the world up into "this is it" and "this isn't it", and accept the possibility that this is always it.

Too Intimate For Words

John Astin

Those are some great words.

Yes, change is inevitable. It can be frustrating or saddening, but it's part of life. It can also be something to look forwards to.

It depends on which side of the hill or valley you are on at the moment. The book The Kybalion really helped me understand this concept. They mention the Law of Rhythm and how experience is like a swinging pendulum. The key is to not swing with the pendulum, but stay centered with your emotions. Over time you can actually raise your vibration through training and you will be internally happy regardless of your outer circumstances.

Non-attachment is also a great thing to practice in this experience as you will start to achieve an absence of fear. Releasing attachment to "good" and "bad" things (good and bad actually doesn't exist as nothing is inherently good or bad). Allowing yourself to let go of the things you don't want to change. Letting go is true freedom.

It doesn't mean you don't enjoy doing things that you love, but being attached to this thing is causing fear to enter your life. The Fear of change that haunts you now.

If you can purchase and read the book FEAR by Thich Nhat Hahn, it is one of the greatest books I've ever read specifically on this subject. There are many practices that allow you to face your fears and integrate with them. Then there is no more fear lurking over you and you start to live in peace.

Hopefully this helps!

Yeah I think it would be worth a shot.

The setup he has for it is great because we can maintain the Capitalism structures we already have in place while implementing this philosophy to see if it works. It's a great hybrid model. It's not like one way or the other as most systems are setup as like Communism vs Capitalism, or the off-grid hippie societies we see. If people don't want to join they don't have to, but I'm sure there would be investors interested in the idea.

I also think it's fascinating taking money out of the equation eventually as I believe money and the current political structure causes so much suffering. Wars, crime, technological suppression, poverty, homelessness, hunger, environmental issues, inflation/tax abuse, and a million of other causes can usually be traced back to money and the survival of the fittest mentality (rather than the cooperation model that is starting to become more proven).

It's definitely interesting and definitely took a leap for me to wrap my brain around being a Pro-Capitalist type of person. But I think it's a step in the right direction for sure.

Wow, that was so fun to read, congratulations on your first conscious exit !!!

Such memories, looking back, I had an exit like that, but I was laying on my side on at the edge of the bed, realizing that my hand was feeling the chest of some being that was standing in front of me in another area. An actual LIVE person! Yeah my energy went richter, I tell ya. But not so much the experience ended. I got curious, started looking around and was put on a conveyor belt to move further into the experience, lol. Isn't it fun! I am glad you are saying you want to go on the ride again. This is a very, very good sign.

Wow! Yeah that would scare the heck outta me. I was actually fearing that I would see something in the room with me, as I've read about this happening lol! What was the being that you saw? Just a guy in your room?

Usually I'm not one to get scared very easily, but for some reason, in this state, I was. Probably because we enter a world full of unknowns, like being born again into a new world. I actually thought that after the experience. That's probably what it feels like being born into this world too.

LOL, I understand wanting to do it again, especially once you get over the wth moment.

What would you say was the biggest difference between a lucid dream and this last experience?

Well, I've had a few Lucid dreams and they vary a bit from how conscious I am in them. (Im definitely not a pro at this... yet)

1. I feel like the lucid dreams can be a little bit cartoony, sort of. Like I feel my dream body, but maybe not as detailed? I think maybe the little details aren't as pronounced as much. Because I could feel the small textures in the laminate flooring in the OBE. Or maybe it just felt different because of my alert mind being fearful.
2. Also, I've never had an experience like that where it was so dark, blurry, and eerie like in a horror movie so that was definitely a major difference.
3. And usually in Lucid dreams I feel super energized when I realize I am dreaming or phase into a lucid dream (it's a great feeling), whereas in the "classic OBE experience" it was more of a frightening experience. Mind you, I've read books about this exact type of experience, but it's quite different actually experiencing it yourself rather than just reading it.

Hey guys and gals,

I had an extremely weird experience a few nights ago. (I like weird experiences!)

I was dreaming a dream and became lucid. I’ve only been lucid about 3 or 4 times now so I’m not quite good at it yet, but I remembered to look for my spirit guide as I’ve been wanting to do that for awhile now. I couldn’t find him/her though. I called out to the dream and nothing happened, and I search the other building next to the one I was in and long story short I drifted back into the dream state.

After the dream ended I was awake (but I didn’t open my eyes) and then imagined the same dream again as I wanted to re-enter it to become lucid again.

Here’s the trippy part.

I felt like my body was sagging down to the floor through my bed and as this was happening I could hear and sort of feel my body making noises/moving. It was super weird because I realized that this was my body even though I was half feeling my body. Hard to explain. Then I realized I was feeling the laminate floor with my hands.  This was a very scary experience as I was crawling on the floor because it was so damn dark and blurry I could barely see. I got up and took my glasses off and it was even blurrier. I looked back at my wife and only made out a lump in the bed and I was going to look at myself, but I could see some type of weird electrostatic or something in my visual field when I was close to looking there so I stopped because I thought that I might snap back into the physical. I didn’t look around too much because I feel like I would crap my pants if I saw something in the super dark blurry room so I thought of flying to the roof as I could explore there without so much fear. I closed my eyes and jumped and felt like I got stuck in a bunch of material and then I awoke again.

This felt significantly different from the lucid dream I’ve had. Maybe because I was more aware? I felt like more of my rational thinking was activated. But it was creepy as hell. It was like a horror movie to be honest.

During this experience I also had a different concept of what this house looked like and that seemed to be consistent in the “OBE”. The house in the OBE felt like it had another floor above me, but the actual house here is the roof above where I sleep. I always thought OBE experiences would be pretty consistent with the surroundings, but it was so blurry, maybe it was.

After that my instant reaction was not to do that again, but now I want to do it again lol!! But this is the first experience I’ve had in awhile. And the interesting part about this is that I got into this experience the same night that I made a small wooden pyramid and put it next to my bed in the room. I just finished reading about pyramid power lol! Coincidence? I’m not sure. Its been about a week and I haven’t had another lucid dream since. I need to become more dedicated to this art/science!

Hey, I thought you guys would like to take a look at this video.

It’s a new social system philosophy that removes the need for money (as people are the real changers anyways, not money), and reduces the need for a political structure. These are 2 things that probably cause the majority of problems in the world in my opinion anyway haha!

Michael Tellinger is an interesting guy. He’s deep into the non-mainstream subjects about philosophy, where we came from, and spiritual metaphysics. He came up with a fascinating philosophy that is a hybrid between our monetary system and a non-monetary system that I personally think will grow like wildfire once started.

The video is here: https://youtu.be/CV0jC9fvVK0

Let me know what you guys think.

Here’s my story of how I came across this which I think is really interesting. I watched a video a few days ago (one of those doom and gloom videos) about “THEM” controlling the world and everyone by manipulating basically everything we see and do. Basically that we are living in the Matrix. And of course, there was no solution suggested in the video, just a presentation of depressing facts.

After watching that I was subconsciously digesting it and over the night an epiphany popped into my head. It was a very large decently constructed thought chunk. And the more I thought about the thought chunk, the more it unravelled itself. It was a thought of a social system without the need of money!

 Man, I thought I had it all figured out, and then I start scouring the internet to see if anyone has come across this, and Michael Tellinger conveniently comes into my awareness with the exact plan I had thought of the night before! Except his is more in-depth as he’s been perfecting the idea for over a decade. This was the greatest example for me personally of tapping into a frequency. Really cool!!

This has actually happened to me as well.

I used to meditate everyday sometimes twice a day and it got to a point were after a couple minutes of meditation the colours would come and would start coming on pretty intensely. I think consistency in meditation may help for my case. I have fallen off the consistency train though as I’m going through a big life transition at the moment. I think that may be a factor as well. Sometimes changes in life, eating habits, lifestyle, stress level, can alter things a bit.

I used to get flashes as well like a strobe light flashing in front of my eyes in the darkness. I think these events might be some type of energy opening up or something. So it may or may not be related to having astral events. Some ppl I’ve read believe that the flashes are your third eye awakening which will help in psy experiences, but I just look at it as a possibility with an open mind and just experiment with it.

Mind you, I still had 2 lucid experiences though even without being able to see these colourful patterns and the flashing stopping. One of them I found myself in a weird hypnogogic state of mind imagining I was trying to do a handstand but kept falling forward or backward trying to get that balance. Every time I tried it, the experience would get a bit more detailed so I kept trying with slight curiosity until I was lucidly in a scenario. It was super cool because I’ve read about it on here so many times before and that was the first time it actually happened. Really interesting!!