PR -

Not sure of your age but I think I have almost twenty years on you in that regard. That does not mean I am more of this or more of that. I don't believe age implies anything but experience. I think that once you are looking at your mid forties you can look back and see that what you believed in your twenties and thirties was not quite what turns out. That is not a bad thing. By "mid-life crisis" I was merely joking about that term and its supposed implications. I could die tomorrow and that would put my mid life around twenty-two so who knows really.

And hell no I don't know your "psyche". 

I know only what I see in the form of text and that is in your control only.

The original intent of this thread is important though. There are those things "we" really have no control over. The world will do as it does. The effects of that impacts us all. It creates change whether we like it or not. We can rebel. We can fight and argue. We can choose to try and ignore it, play it cool. We can run from it and dream of being somewhere else or above it all. Regardless, "we" are in it together. Let us light the path for others to follow. Slowing down now is not an option.

Crisis=Opportunity.

Individuals evolve on a personal level to be determined by their acts. Human beings evolve at the speed of a snail traversing a mile of fragrant terrain. Your state is determined by the state you are born into. You can determine this by ignoring it.

Crazy is as crazy does. I do chocolates.

Don't worry there will be another. It is worth it though.

Yes. I knew that would get you going. I think this will be fun. I listed my credentials to show I'm no "authority" on the subject. I am someone who has to deal with the situation daily though. 12 years is equivalent to a PHD plus residency. I might have a perspective you can agree with. You might actually find we have quite common ground. You might find that "ideologically" we agree on many counts. This will not happen without much discussion.

I am up to it because I enjoy your point of view. I enjoy being challenged. Oh, and - "Again, if I were someone who was easily offended I would most likely be very offended by your request for someone who has seen schizophrenia in action like you have." LOL. Right. Talk the talk or walk the walk. Textbook and "classical" training doesn't mean shiite to me. I wasn't classically trained. I was thrown to the wolves. If anything my "classical" training was in Theosophy. My "classical" approach was through reading and studying Jungian psychology while I was a practitioner of Golden Dawn, loooong before I ever imagined working with mental illness. Talk about "magical thinking".

I proposed my "qualifications" to show I am not an elitist on this subject. In the previous thread I was appalled by the comment that was made in a thread started by a confessed "schizophrenic". My comments were applicable to my knowledge and carefully worded. Yours were "ballsy" (for lack of better terms) and I was uncomfortable with them. Here in this thread I will not speak softly. I can hold my own. That means I can learn and grow as well. You said - "I am speaking idealistically, you are trying to dispute my theory based on your experience, which is practically impossible." Idealism is fine. It is what initiates change. Theories lead to discovery. I dispute nothing. What I will do is state fact. It is objective through experience and science. Because it also involves countless conversations with "schizophrenics" (I use this only as a quick term for one with the diagnosis) it is also subjective. This is why I feel my "qualifications" are applicable.

As I have stated before there are varying levels in any disease or disorder or whatever term you might use. I will state emphatically that an untreated person with acute schizophrenia cannot function in this world without assistance. Whether they are splitting dimensions or not the fact remains they will die from suicide, homicide or neglect. Period. I have and never will mistreat a person with mental illness. The fantasy of what occurs during the treatment of the mentally ill remains with those who do not participate in it.

I want a clear explanation of what your propose so that I can work with it. This is something you can do I am positive. Try to offend me if you think it might stir me into action. I am best that way.

P.S.  I think I like you My name is Michael.
 

 

AND have fun doing it!

Well. This is going to be difficult. I really would like someone to respond who has had direct experience with schizophrenia as I have. There is new research being done daily across the world that I try to keep up on. Did anyone read my last posted link? I think what is difficult to convey is the seriousness of the disorder (a term use synonymously with "disease" when discussing mental illness) yet also the internal strength of the person. As with any person who is handicapped in some way, the effort is to build on their strengths and not focus on the weaknesses. Weaknesses can be identified but usually only to develop strategies to overcome them using their other latent strengths.

PR - with your dislike of extended reading and my tendency to ramble incessantly I must apologize but this might take some repeated posts.

I will briefly list my qualifications and experience once again to establish a baseline. I am a registered nurse with an associate degree in science. I am nationally certified in Acute Psychiatric Nursing. I have further education but I will leave it at this. I am NOT a wanna-be psychologist or DR. as I am proud of my performance as a nurse. Since 1998 I have worked in what is called "acute inpatient mental health". I worked for ten years in a local community hospital and for the last two years I have worked in a federal facility, same job, different demographic. The first hospital had to close its mental health unit after ten years due lack of funding. It was devastating to our community but that is the society we live in. Despite all efforts, including appeals to our state legislature, there was no help to be found. Our hospital lost several million dollars in their efforts to support the mental health needs of our county.

The idea behind this type of hospitalization is to support persons who had become a risk to themselves or others. Basically, they had tried unsuccessfully to kill themselves or someone else or were having extreme urges to do so. Sometimes they were admitted because of threats. Sometimes because their behavior put them at risk, ie. hallucinating, severely out of touch with reality, risk taking, inability to perform self care such as feeding themselves. Some came in seeking help. Some were brought in by caring family. Some against their will.

I have seen pretty much anything you might find in the DSM-TR. Severe depression to the point of catatonia or psychosis. Bipolar and the other affective disorders. Schizophrenia and schizo-affective disorders. Personality disorders, particularly Borderline and Antisocial. Severe alcohol or other substance abuse issues (more related to the above issues rather than for "substance abuse treatment"). Severe ADHD, conduct disorder and oppositional defiant disorder. Persons with traumatic brain injury, especially frontal lobe type. Early stage Alzheimer's and other dementia type disorders, deliriums. Some eating disorders, anorexia, bulimia. There is so much more, including some of the more rare disorders ie, I have worked with creutzfeldt jakob disease, somataform disorders, PTSD and your basic malingerers.

I spent five years working directly with children and adolescents. From four years old to 18. I have also worked with all ages of adults, up to 104 years old. It was a coed unit. I performed all the nursing duties you could imagine. I specialized in group and family education. I took a particular pride in my ability to diffuse escalating situations. I have been involved in physical restraint use and locked door seclusion. I have had to personally use "hands-on" techniques, several hundred times, to protect the safety of people. I am well versed in the use of psychiatric medicines. I have and always will maintain professional boundaries. I am a strong advocate for my patients and will stand up to ANYONE so that they may receive the best care possible.

Any questions before I continue?

http://www.crvmanual.com/remote-viewing-manual/proprietary.html

Anyone read through this "manual" before? Just curious cuz if its not worth the effort you might save me some time. Been awhile since I have thought of remote viewing as opposed to projection.

Mid-life crisis. Wanting change. Currently creating that change but find some of the obstacles are more difficult to overcome than when I was younger. Oh, I am a genuine, honest and loving person. Kind to the bone and hard working. Love my family and am proud of what I have accomplished. Something is missing though. I think that is what brought me here. It's more than just learning and sharing. It is a pursuit. A slow race to the fantastic. I have given so much to others over the years I need to learn to give to myself now. Not greedily of course but in that pursuit of intellectual and spiritual goals. Write a book. Peruse the Akashic records at will. Learn to play the guitar. Eliminate debt. Travel more. Resume the deep meditations which enriched me in my youth. Lose about 50 pounds. Start drawing again. Develop regular patters of behavior that wash away long standing bad habits.

I guess that is not so disturbing, is it? Giving the "crash of all crashes" a slap in the face through personal development and growth.

Thanks for bringing up that trilogy. "My Big TOE" was in my mental shopping list but got misplaced somewhere. It does sound like a fun read.

Lessons learned I'm sure. All part of the plan. Sounds like there are many good things in store for you. Right choices open doors.

I'm still disturbed though, despite right choices. I think I like it.

Yes, seen it. Thought it looked like a human-type skull with a partially buried skeleton. Wonder if it is sending out distress signals...

Moon matrix. Moooon matrix. Kinda fun to say outloud.

"The Moon Matrix has ‘hacked’ into the human ‘body-computer’ system, he says, and it is feeding us a manipulated sense of self and the world 24/7." - I believe that's what is called "FoxNews".

Practice makes perfect!

Here's a quick read which supports some of the "other side" of schizophrenia. I'm posting this without reading your last post so forgive me. I will respond further when I have a little more time.

http://www.humanehealthcare.com/Article.asp?art_id=707

This is why I love persons with schizophrenia. Kinda reminds me of the comment you made to the person with quadriplegia (ballsy but appropriate ).

Why would you want to try? How would it be any more strange than life in general? Every day is a new day which presents its own unique challenges. Astral travel is just something to add  to the mix. Of course, if you really are "self realized" you should have nothing to fear. Also, ego doesn't die until you do. The ego can be modified or suppressed but it is a part of the human experience regardless.

Enjoy!

I'm assuming you have improved since?

Please hold tight for my response!

I will get back to this when I am at work tonight. Should have enough time to provide a proper response. Add more if you would like.

Just for argument now though -
The premise here is that Schizophrenia is not a "disease". Am I correct? And/or that it is a heightening of the human senses? First you will need to look closely at the precise definition of "disease". What constitutes the label of "disease". Then, drop 2000 micrograms of LSD25 daily for the rest of your life. Use only the pure stuff, you don't want any strychnine or other impurities. You will find that after the first few weeks there will be nothing exotic or rare about it. Don't worry, you will only be institutionalized if you become a "danger" to yourself or others. Don't worry that you might "be considered as advanced mutants of the human race" - that is only called "stigma", not too difficult to get over once you get used to people treating you like someone to avoid. Once your family and friends give up on you because they cannot cope with your eccentricities and unintelligible speech you will have found a sort of unique independence. You will discover that not only will you not be able to earn an income to survive, your dependence on underfunded public resources will leave you mostly hungry and cold as you drift from homelessness or shelter to shelter. There is a great chance you might be able to earn a living from collecting discarding aluminum cans but that is only is states which have a deposit fund. As you deal with all the "multiple realities" you must never once think there might be a better way of living, or that perhaps medication might help. But then since you are not really schizophrenic, just quit the LSD. The damage might be severe by then but at least you'd know how to cope. A person with schizophrenia can just quit taking the LSD though, which is my point.

After that I think we will understand each other better. 

Yes. Really liked it. I only meant that when he first was absorbed, afterwords he seemed awed. I could only imagine at that point what it must have felt to be a part of the machine. One mind in direct connection to thousands (or more), a part of the whole. Just reminded me of a few experiences I have had during deep meditation.

Of course he was duty bound and ego driven. A terrible force to reckon with.

I was a disturbed teen once. Now I'm a disturbed adult.

I always had the feeling Picard secretly enjoyed his brief experiences with the Borg. Like he hated them so much because of the great interconnectedness they shared. Akin to focus four while in the flesh, er, whatever.

Oh my Gawd! Diagrams! You constantly shock and awe me, Sir!

When finding the vibratory state I enjoy moving it to different areas of my body. Began this process many years ago after reading "The True Art of Healing" by Regardie. I always felt it was a good exercise. Had I took the enormous amount of time to study all the chakra or nadi points I would probably be a Master. (bows humbly)

B-6 works wonders. Clubfoot moss can work as well. I don't recommend anything but I take SAM-e, fishoil - you need high levels of dha/epa, B complex, multivit (best I can afford), alpha lipoic acid, sylmarin, N acetly l cysteine, Vit D, vit E & C and zinc.

Remember to exercise regularly. Drink LOTS of water. Get regular and sufficient sleep. Read daily and try to keep it interesting and stimulating. TV ruins the ability to focus and concentrate so stay away from TV as much as possible. Stay away from addictive substances. ETOH, tobacco and weed deplete GABA and other important neurotransmitters. We all know drugs are bad so I won't waste your time with any further.

If there were a good sustaining OTC, prescription or legal substance that would enhance lucid dreaming I would most likely know about it, honestly, and would share it with everyone. you mostly just need a healthy body and mind. This brings you closer to your "spirit" (or whatever you wanna call it).

Not doing these things will certainly impair your ability and I will guaranty this by my personal experience.

I guess that means I can't be included in your "enlighteningness"  . I am, of course, assuming you were replying to me (I apparently get lost in the insided/outsidedness of these posts ).

Oh and I don't type with my tongue although my spouse might wish differently!(R rated)

 

Apparently there is a person posting here who claims he can "poke" things in the etheric hard enough to break glass! (you don't have any enemies do you?) LOL.

I have heard of hypnotized people who could remember subconsciously speaking to projectors visiting them. They had no recollection otherwise.