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1  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: October 04, 2017, 18:45:57
We discussed this a bit back in March; I withheld several ideas back then, not wanting to confuse the issue. Since your predicament remains, I will now offer them.

1- You have never mentioned a Dream Journal or your efforts to remember your dreams. This is a key component of initial NP awareness and a basic method for its development. If you are not putting in the time and effort to do this, then this could be a significant reason for lack of progress.

2- Communication to our Inner Selves - It may be that we have to reassure our relative safety to our subconscious self in order to gain a kind of 'permission'; it may also require a request to our higher self for a kind of permission to go exploring in the Non-Physical Realms. This can be simply done with nightly statements or short mantras 'asking for permission' or 'granting ourselves permission'...the individual language may be slightly different for each of us; we just have to explore this in our own unique ways.

3- A fundamental requirement MAY BE that at some initial point, we dedicate our spiritual education and evolution to the 'betterment of Mankind' or the idea of 'SERVICE' to our fellow sentient beings...

So, if your 'true' intent is just to experience the NP and OBE as a form of entertainment, a cool thing, a way to impress your friends, or a method to personal power, ie some selfish reason...then you will likely not be assisted, maybe even resisted by those on the other side.

I have read from many others and my own experience has confirmed that, at some point, an open and sincere declaration of my willingness to be part of, and to contribute to the progress of our general spiritual welfare is a proper and necessary thing.

This has to be sincere. 

EscapeVelocity, Thank you again for your detailed write-ups. I do appreciate the time you put in to responses and always hope I end up seeing a post from you in my treads.

In regards to the dream journal... I do keep one but most days I can only write "Do not recall and dreams that took place. I shall recall more detail tomorrow night".

I did not see the need to reference this as it seems to be little instances where I may recall a small part of a dream. Now that it has been brought up.... Should I be doing something different?

The reason I have for learning this amazing skill would be 90% internal, as in, to better my self and gain knowledge that I have not been subject to my entire life. The other 10% would be strictly fun! Lets face it, who would not want to fly around the globe of visit parts of the ocean that have not been experienced on this physical plane and so on, and so on.

 grin grin On an upside I did nave somewhat of an experience last nit in which I was able to experience some hypnogogic imagery (which is always fun),as well as, I seemed to have this "Static" type noise in both of my ears that seemed to go up an down in intensity/volume. After some time the right ear stayed the same but there was some change in the left. The left seemed to change to some kind of pulsing / swooshing type nose. grin grin

Dose not seem like much, but compared to the last 4 weeks I was pretty thrilled to see something. After that the visions and noises seemed to fade and I figured I was done and went to bed.

2  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: October 02, 2017, 20:08:45
For instance, when I started reading about astral projection, and when I had my first projections after I read William Buhlman's first book, I was strongly motivated to find out if there is something after death.

I think that just curiosity, or desire to learn a trick, might not be motivating enough anymore for your subconscious to make the leap. They were in the beginning, but now you might need to work toward a higher goal in order to progress.

Astral projection, is a tool, a mean toward something else.

That makes somewhat sense. I need to be more specific then just, What new sensations can I experience tonight?

LOL.... How do I do this? I don't know what I should be putting my energy towards.

For example  a mantra... "I will have a full separation" or something like "I will go out of body"??
3  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: October 02, 2017, 17:54:40
Maybe one reason for having less success lately is the difference in motivation between when you started and now. If you make clear plans, in which you put a lot of desire, hope, curiosity, those will help you go over the hump.

The other avenue would be to move to a different approach to projecting like Monroe's hemi-sync, Frank Kepple's phasing, self-hypnosis, lucid dreaming, etc..

What do you mean by difference in motivation?

I want to experience a full separation sooo bad, but maybe I need to shift my focus?
Maybe I am wanting it to bad??? 
4  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Back At It & Hurdles To Work Through on: October 02, 2017, 17:11:24
Well... I am back on the AP train as of about two weeks ago.

Nothing exciting to mention so far! Which is why I am creating this post.

Possibly someone can help out here and has experienced this. I started about 10-12 months ago practicing AP. Off the start I had lots of new experiences and it looked as if I was making progress almost 3 - 4 times a week. Then one day it just stopped!

I took a break for about 3 - 4 months, now and just had a feeling I needed to get back on the practice routine. This is where I could use some advise / guidance.

Back when I first started, I was trying all these different techniques and mantras, it seems that I would always see a little progress or experience new NP sensations.

After a couple months is seemed these experience were really far apart to the point where it just quit all together.

Now that I am back at it, I am getting the same thing. Very little positive feedback in the process, as in, not much progress forward.

I know its probably me and what I am doing, or not doing. But I would just like to see that I am on the right track.

Maybe I need to try and ask a guide for help?
How would I do this?
Should I do this?

I'm at a loss here and don't know how to move forward.... Do I want this to much? Possibly overthinking and making it way more complicated than it needs to be?
5  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Questions About Roll Out Method on: September 28, 2017, 19:17:44
grin That's funny. How are you getting on now? Not sure if you're still a visiting member, but thought I'd ask in case you are.  smiley

I never got any tell-tale clicks so I had to learn the hard way. For me, it was a case of doing it over & over until I familiarised myself with the correct state. Of course, this meant many failures and plenty of practice.

In order to avoid a total fail, you could slow down the process and rather than roll your whole body, try moving one hand very very slowly. If it moves and doesn't feel physical, bring it up to your face and look at it. 9 times out of 10 if it's your second/astral hand, then it won't look quite right. It could look obviously different, such as a glowing blue haze or it could look similar, but with an extra finger (one time I had rings on which I'd taken off before lying down). If you're still not sure, try the other hand/arm. Then to absolutely test it, push your right index finger into the palm of your left hand. If it goes through, then you're astral!

But even then, take it slowly. You may find you're only half-astral and can't get your legs out. One thing I found useful if this happened was to use my astral hands and rub any areas of my body that still felt physical. Mentally willing myself astral also worked.

For some of us, it doesn't come easily or naturally. Just like learning to play a musical instrument, it takes time, effort, patience, practice, practice, and then more practice.

Selski, Just saw your reply... I am still a visiting member, but have giving AP a break for the last couple months as I feel I was just not getting anywhere and I was imposing mental blocks with with frustration.

I am back on the AP train the last couple weeks but have not had anything interesting to post about LOL.

For some reason. When I first learned about AP I had a great 1 - 2 months with lots of new sensations and success and it felt like I was moving in the right direction. Then one day it just quit! I was unable to experience anything new and decided to give it a break.

Back at it not but still nothing exciting to report. I think I am doing something wrong but have no idea how or what.

O well... When I get it I am sure it will stick. 
6  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Is there a vibration stage inducing fequency I could listen to? on: August 29, 2017, 21:07:53
In my limited experiences if you go into the process only looking for the viberational state you wont get it.

And that is OK as it is not needed to exit.

Just let go and go with whatever you experience.
Don't set out a strict pathway that you have heard works and expect to get from one thing, then the next, then the next, and so on....

Just lay down or sit, and be excited to see what new sensations you get to experience.
7  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: I Can Induce Vibrations, But Then What? on: June 27, 2017, 21:01:24
Great thread.. Thanks for all the useful information!!
8  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Body of light: is there anyone mastering it ? on: March 21, 2017, 23:39:48
I understand what you are trying to say
The difference is that you look at the macro scale, vs micro scale
On the macro, you are right
And I'm still okay with myself: go to McDonald and ask to get the second picture, and receive the first one: you'll not be okay

On my previous post: what is your English words to call the things in pictures ?

I see that we are on the same page and as I was reading your post, it is a great example if "intent". You go to Mc Donalds with the intent to get a Big Mac and French Fries.

That is your intent.

You suddenly receive the order; they have given you chips. Still the same product just represented in a different way.  

The "micro" is really all that counts, if your looking at the big picture. Don't know if that makes sense.

Some places call the first picture french fries and others call the second pictures french fries. They are both french fries so to say.

I am curious to see how you look at all this... I think a the fork, I went right and you went left so to speak LOL.  

Not trying to be rude (please don't take this the wrong way), but I think you need to open your mind to possibilities. That may be beyond your comprehension at this point.

I may be wrong, and if I am, interpreting this totally wrong, would someone please correct me?? I am still new to this process as well; learning as I go. I like strike up conversation as it helps me grasp information allot easier. I do not mean to come off rude... just really enjoy open discussions LOL.
9  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Your OBE frequency on: March 21, 2017, 22:12:07
I'm not sure if eating cereals can be placed as the same level then astral projecting. I think average peoples would disagree
And is social interaction the epitome of spiritual growth... I have doubts.

But what disturb me the most, is your avatar, it seem broken Cry


When people post answer's to questions you have, you really need to work on having a open mind and not jumping the... Well, that now that i heard. That can be right because i don't understand it. ect...

Just remember... You don't know, what you don't know!
10  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Body of light: is there anyone mastering it ? on: March 21, 2017, 21:36:39
I would tent to agree.. A potato, is a potato, no matter how its cut up.
The only thing that really changes is the way it is cut and how the outcome looks.

No to make things interesting if you were to compare a potato to a piece of paper.

Are they made of the same stuff/matter?? I would venture they are.

They are all made of atoms (electrons/protons) the only differences is the arrangement and the vibrational frequency they give off. In the end everything on earth is the same, that is why the mind is so powerful. EVERYTHING IS ENERGY! Ever heard of the "Law Of Attraction"?? The power of the mind is amazing!

Tow quote that I really like....

"Weather you think you can, or you think you can't... Either way you're ALWAYS right. It's the THINKING that makes it so." - Henry Ford

"Whatever, the mind of man can conceive, and bring its self to believe... It can achieve." - Napoleon Hill

Just my $0.02.
11  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Making Progress / New sensation? on: March 15, 2017, 01:58:43
It is very literally, small baby-steps right now; I know because I went through it as well. It can be pretty darn frustrating. Maybe that's part of the process and teaches us some things about patience, focus and awareness. It is all part of learning the art and it never ends.

Check my response to SimplyHuman for some possible reasons why it gets so slow at this point.

The vibrations, SP and the Void...if you have experienced them, then great, file them away in your NP File; they are not necessary for any particular OBE, so don't get hung up expecting them at every or any time.

'The feeling that I should take a break...' That is a good insight to have had and maybe a sign of your inner awakening; start to pay a little more attention to this kind of personal insight. Sometimes this break is exactly what is needed...time to relax and regroup, time to consider, absorb and consolidate what we have learned...and then BANG! we get a whole new experience that takes us to the next level. Personally, I think this is a necessary function that happens also on a very subtle, energetic level that we may not be consciously aware of.

Again, I highly recommend the affirmations that I mentioned earlier. They are easy and best of all, they're free.


Your post makes complete since.  I don't know if I want to take a break now LOL!

Yes I will do the affirmations for sure I have already printed them off and taped them around my house... LOL. Tomorrow I should have them memorized.

I put them around the house so every time I see one I remember to say it randomly throughout the day as well.

Will keep you posted! And thank you for taking the time to post.
12  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Making Progress / New sensation? on: March 14, 2017, 15:22:22
This is a good experience to have and a sign that you are continuing to make progress.

I'm not so interested in what you were viewing, but rather the way you described the experience -like sitting in a movie theater watching the big screen. Many projectors have described their early experiences in just this way, myself included. This is a particular stage in the sequence of falling asleep and, if we can maintain our awareness/lucidity, we can utilize it to reach a point where we can project or phase. So, I think it is a particularly good signpost that demonstrates two key aspects of your awareness developing: 1 -That you managed to follow it that far and 2 -that you recognized the fact. Good work!

This is a technique that requires you to maintain your awareness and observe yourself as you fall asleep. Awfully hard to do because you are naturally tired and it is so easy to simply fall asleep. I have only had success with this during a few middle of the night wake-ups, but it served to teach me the fundamentals of this process so I could recognize it when it naturally occurs.

For many of us, if not all, the process of falling asleep proceeds from a relaxation stage to a hypnogogic stage of brief, random hallucinatory bits of noises, sensations and visuals...most of this we miss on a nightly basis because we have already lost focus...when you can maintain awareness and observe the process, it is quite orderly and predictable (at least it was in my case according to what I have read -which also leads to the possibilities of prior suggestion and expectation; I remain open). The visuals move from static snapshots to kind of jumpy, black and white streaming footage, then becomes smoother and full Technicolor. If you can get this far, you just sit back and watch as the video changes from scene to scene, without getting caught up in it. At some point, the scene will stabilize and perceptibly strengthen...and then it should occur to you that you can try mentally 'stepping into' the scene. You may get bounced back once or twice, which may indicate that you need to let the scene strengthen a bit more, but finally you can just step into the scene. Stepping 'into' a scene and then realizing you are actually there 100% is one of the coolest things the first few times! It really rattles your world-view! This is Phasing.

Again, this is a good sign that your Intent is continuing to kick your awareness up a notch when you are in an appropriate place to learn something new. You might try adding a nightly affirmation to reinforce your Intent. Something like,

"I want to have an out-of-body experience and give myself permission to do so. I know that I am safe and protected."

"I want to recognize opportunities to increase my awareness in my dreams and as I fall asleep or wake up. When I dream, I become aware."

Alter or season to your taste. The key is that this kind of 'programming' is both simple and effective.

You are headed for a good adventure. I look forward to reading about it!


Thank you for the reply, glad to hear from people who are allot farther along than I am; that what I am going through, is a step in the correct direction.

Its funny, as I have been feeling as I have not been making progress and getting the feeling that I should take a break. Then this happens.

I don't recall all the lead up images like the black and white. So that tells me that my assumption that I may have actually fell asleep, could be a real possibility.

All I recall for sure, is there were a couple cars, in fairly vivid color, driving down some highway. I think it was a race or something, just speculation at this point.

As I look back at the last 3 to 4 weeks, it seems as if I am progressing really slowly... None the less its progression! Almost as if I am being taken through this step by step until I am comfortable enough to move on. I notice now that I have not had the vibrations, SP or the Black Void in quite some time.

Am I missing these steps some how; do I need to experience them?

Nothing new from the last couple nights... Hopefully I will be able to share more very soon!

This is verv exciting... Cant wait to see what the next stage brings. 
13  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Making Progress / New sensation? on: March 13, 2017, 21:38:40
The other night before bed I was laying down practicing AP'ing and I recall being in somewhat of a movie theater as I was seeing a scene, where, there were these vehicles that (I think) were driving down some highway. looked really vivid.

I think I may have lightly fell asleep but I don't recall really losing  and then at some point I recall fading into this "movie".

It was shocking, I remember I was laying still, with my eyes closed but when it startled me I ended up loosing the vision.

Just wanted to do a quick post as I may have experienced this before but was allot shorter and this one seemed to last a couple seconds before I got startled.
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Steps to Success in your First Projections on: March 08, 2017, 17:49:46
I read this post months, back but didn't really see any value sad in it as i was just starting to explore this amazing ability.

After reading it "again" now after having a little more experience and going through the sensations, but never actually achieving a full separation.

I feel, I better comprehend what your are explaining; and will be trying what you are mentioning in this post in greater detail.

Interesting how you read something once; come back to it, you get allot more of what is being explained!

Tank You!
15  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Dr. Strange on: March 08, 2017, 15:20:24
Many of us here think alike Smiley. That's a sign that everyone should watch the movie.
The clip you posted here and the moment she punched his chest and his astral body flew out of the physical was the moment I was like "Wooooow, that's interesting" LOL. Then a lot of valid points followed throughout the movie. I didn't know anything about this character though. Never heard of him, so I did not expect the AP elements. It was a nice surprise.

My thoughts exactly... I know its a Hollywood film and they need to spice it up for ratings, but I do think some of what they explain (maybe 1% - 2%, HA HA HA), may actually have some merit.

None the less.... I am now into Dr. Strange LOL!
16  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Dr. Strange on: March 07, 2017, 23:38:09
Wow yeah I loved that clip you posted. I'll have to download it. And no I havn't seen the movie. At least not yet.

I would recommend checking it out. It is a "Hollywood" film so there is allot of s*it in it, but I think it has some good incite. At the least if your in to AP'ing is is good entertainment.

17  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Dr. Strange on: March 07, 2017, 23:35:57
Look down below on the same page. I made a post with the same title, when I watched the movie in the theater Smiley

Read though your topic... Looks like it was a pretty good discussion. Thanks for sharing.

Good to see, i was not the only one who thought to start a post on it LOL!!
18  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Dr. Strange on: March 07, 2017, 22:44:07
Almost all movies that show astral projection some glorified form of astral projection, like the movie version of it. I like some of them because they are funny or entertaining, not not because they are like real life astral projection.

Here are the ones that I am most familiar with.

Ace Ventura: When nature calls.
Astral projection "out of body experience" portrayed in a Hollywood Film

Beverly Hills Ninja - Plane of Enlightenment Part 1

Beverly Hills Ninja-Plane of Enlightenment Part 2.avi

I agree, I have seen it in Hollywood as well but this one seemed to actually explain in some detail. The Ace Ventura and Beverly Hills Ninja it almost making more of a joke of the whole process I found.

have you seen Dr. Strange.

DOCTOR STRANGE Movie Clip - Heal The Body (2016) Benedict Cumberbatch Marvel Movie HD

This is just a short clip of it, it continues on more in the movie.

Might be worth watching a portion of the movie?

i am new so i may be totalu out to lunch but just wanted to get others thoughts.
19  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Dr. Strange on: March 07, 2017, 21:17:58
Has anyone ever watched the new Dr. Strange? I have always enjoyed MARVEL comics and movies but was never really in to Dr. Strange.

Anyways; myself, the wife, and my two kids sat down to watch it the other night.

This was a really great movie and I think there is some good information if the script/story directly related to AP, which is pretty much his whole super power.

It starting getting my 8 year old son asking allot of question in regards to AP'ing. I need to watch it again as I believe there is more information I can get from this movie.

If you have seen it please let me know your thoughts on the movie. If you have not seen it... it may be worth a watch? 
20  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: A couple strange experiences while sleeping on: March 07, 2017, 17:59:46
Your first experience as stated the black and the buzzing.

Sounds like it would have equated to being in what I have heard referred to as "The Black Void". Did you get the feeling that the Blackness went on forever?

In other words, if you are in your bedroom; it is pitch black, you are aware that you have four walls, that make up that room. You have a feeling of how large the room is, correct?

In the "Black Void" you feel as if you are somewhere completely different and the blackness seems to go on indefinitely. Did you notice a change in thought pattern of such? 

I fond that once in this state my thoughts / mind seemed to be extremely clear and precise. Any tiredness / fuzziness in my mind was instantaneously GONE once in the void state. I have been in this state 3 times now and I really enjoy it. There are lots of answers there; you can look deep inside "yourself", if that makes sense?

Next time just be in the moment and accept what is happening as truth, it is a great place to be... you will enjoy it.
21  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: how close am I? on: March 07, 2017, 17:43:56
sounds like an awesome experience.

And further progress since the original post?  huh
22  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: my recent experiences on: March 07, 2017, 17:34:54
Sounds like an awesome experience. 

Have you had any further success?  huh
23  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Phase Evolution - Blog and YouTube Channel of Mike on: March 06, 2017, 18:46:48
He dose have great videos and is extremely positive. I have been following him for about 6 months now.
He has helped explain a few things for me so far.

Tanks for sharing for others to see.

Are there any other good you tube channels on AP that you would recommend? The community on YouTube seem fairly small at this point still.

24  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: New Jericho (Large Scale Retrieval) on: March 06, 2017, 17:37:43
Thank you for sharing.

That was a great read and enjoyed the detailed description.
25  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Making Progress / New sensation? on: March 05, 2017, 19:51:41

Okay, so being a dad with two kids probably rules out the potential benefits of a quiet afternoon nap, lol.

As an aside, are you keeping a dream journal of roughly a weekly nature?...this helps to keep your NP mind concentrated on the goal.

The WBTB technique may require some modification and is still prone to some randomness: How long you sleep and how long you stay up afterward and what level of activity you maintain...those kinds of things. I find that when I set an alarm after 3 or 4 hours, that I need to be awake for at least 45 minutes to an hour, otherwise I too easily sink back into deep sleep (this may also involve REM cycles and positioning/timing so I just cannot absolutely say). Also the level of activity after the initial sleep period is important: it should be what I call 'mildly active'...don't do weightlifting and don't go for a midnight jog...fold some clothes, putter around the house and then read a book for thirty minutes...keep it relatively mild...then go back to bed and observe yourself as you slide back into sleep; there you may find an opportunity. If the exit sensations appear then just 'allow and follow'.

Intent is likely the most important concept we can discuss here. Szaxx can project within a few minutes of silence and concentration while sitting in his car during a lunch break...jeez... That is the ability to disassociate and INTENT. I can project whenever I happen to recognize that special set of circumstances (relaxation/tiredness/disconnection) happens for me. Middle of the night/early morning/naptime... I can't make that moment happen (yet) like Szaxx can, but I damn sure recognize when it occurs...and I take advantage of it. And a big part of that is recognizing when to apply your Intent. It is like being a sniper and taking the shot when you have it.

You already have an understanding of, or a relationship to Intent. It is involved within every decision and action you take in Physical Reality. It's just that your awareness of Intent is more present at some times than at other times. Some ad guru for Nike summed it up in a beautifully simplistic immortal line- JUST DO IT!

That phrase applies to both Physical Reality and Non-Physical Reality.

The discussion of Intent is one for a whole separate thread...a lot of people I would like to hear chime in on that one...

Intent has levels of signifies a degree of determination, reaches towards absoluteness.

How far would you risk yourself to rescue me from a raging flood? You barely know me. How about your children? Two different degrees of 'Intent' at work here...not the emotion (although that is a component), not the rational thinking (could I die in the process?)...if it is your kids, you just DO IT...that is one essence of Intent...

With regard to OBE practice, do you make a nightly practice of affirmations to experience and remember your dreams/OBES? Do you write down bits of memories and dreams every morning? Do you remind yourself during the day to be aware and to remember your nighttime excursions? (this is a general advice to everyone,lol)

In the Non-Physical Realms, 'Intent' takes on an even greater importance. It is literally your sole means of motivation/locomotion. If you have no idea of where to go, or whom to see...then you stall go no farther.

Even with 'some' intent...if it is half-assed and get bumped out. Your Intent has to be strong and clear.

And then again, even if your Intent is strong and clear...if it is mis-directed, then it is practically in my Back to School adventure.


Thank you for the post. Very informative & brought a few question I had into the light!
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