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1  World Cultures, Traditions and Religions / Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions! / Re: What do christians think about this stuff? on: August 20, 2016, 04:40:58
There are reprehensible things to be found in the holy books of all religions. Some more than others, but if we are talking the Semitic / Abrahamic religions, you don't have to look very hard.

No one belonging to these religions could really follow all of the commandments of their own religion without being a monster. That goes without saying. So it is important to realize that every practitioner is in some manor of dissonance with them. Based on which verses they choose to follow, and which they choose to dismiss, you can actually learn about their personal values. People will take the parts of their faiths that resonate with them.

So while you can call the values of a certain group Christian, or Muslim, or Zoroasterian values, what it really comes down to is the values of their community or family being passed on to them, but being justified as those of their religious tradition.

That is part of why it doesn't help us to say "Christian values" without speaking about the geographic region in question. Are we talking about the Philippines or Alabama? I think if you consider what each group has common to it, the concept would make sense. One of these groups is more concerned with the social justice passages and the Sermon on the Mount, and one of them is more concerned with the Book of Revelations. Islam is much the same. At various times in its history, it has been both the most progressive, and the most regressive faith in the world, based solely on which of the Surahs and Hadiths were held in various readings. It can be both the religion of service, and the religion of war, depending on who is pulling verses.

It is important to realize that religion is at times an instrument of self-expression, I think.
2  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: I believe on: August 12, 2016, 18:00:20
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I believe I can be wrong.

Of those you posted, I like this one best of all. The start of wisdom... admitting we may be wrong about what we thought, and that we know far less than we told our self we did.
3  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: I believe on: August 03, 2016, 04:52:09
I believe we can see ourselves in others, and work to serve their needs as we would our own.

I believe that if you listen to someone long and intently enough, you can understand how they see the world, and they will make more sense to you as a person.

I believe very few people like to be demonstrated to be wrong in public or private, but that if you provide enough information, and understand the limits of the person, you can change their mind over time.

I believe deeds carry more weight than thoughts or words.

I believe we should work to repay those who have served us, whether we were aware of it or not.

I believe we should rely on logic, evidence, experience, and compassion to show us what is true and what isn't.

I believe we should honor our ideals of virtue through art.

I believe, as Kant did, that we should ask ourselves whether the action we are about to take would be more beneficial for everyone to take, or no one to take.
4  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Nihilism on: August 02, 2016, 02:59:10
Because "nihil" means "nothing".

So "nihilsm" is lacking beliefs, or positively asserting there is nothing to believe in.

"Annihilate" comes from Latin "ad" for "to, and "nihil" for nothing; annihilate literally means to reduce to nothing.

The two words share a root, but annihilate is not the parent word for nihilism; they are instead sister words, so "nihilism" has nothing direct to do with destruction.
5  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Nihilism on: August 01, 2016, 22:27:50
Why an "Impulse to destroy"? that just sounds silly.

I feel like they are trying to make something dramatic out of something that really isn't.
6  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Nihilism on: July 31, 2016, 20:28:00
What do you think about outer space?
7  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What are the top most damaging things for the soul? on: July 27, 2016, 03:06:21
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But I think one of the most really damaging things that is pervasive and insidious beyond measure would be Lying.


Hard to really say.

I think it is worth noting that this idea isn't culturally universal. Some cultures consider lying to be a major problem, others much less so.

To me, it isn't outwardly obvious that the isolated act of telling a lie is a negative, rather than merely a neutral.

I think there are many factors that have obvious ethical weights that come into play in the context of the act of lying though.

For instance, if a person tells a lie with the intent to cause harm, that seems like a major negative (but the negative is being applied from the intent here, it seems to me).

If a person is telling a lie in order to obtain something that isn't rightfully theirs, that seems like a major negative (for the same reason as above).

But if a person is telling a lie in order to benefit others? That may possibly be a positive.

Let's say there was a poison gas with a long and unpronouncable name, who's major effects were not apparent to the senses, but would render a person dead 20 hours after exposure, and this gas had been released for an unknown reason in a certain region. Would a person stationed there, telling people who approached that they had to stay away, because there was a dangerous mother bear in the area really be doing something negative? It is much harder to explain to people that something they can't see or sense, and there is no way to prove its existence quickly, will do them lethal harm, than to use the standin of a dangerous animal they will surely easily understand. Was this the best way to keep the people safe? Hard to say. Did the people stationed there do harm? I think probably not.

This may seem like a silly technicality, but I think it gets to the heart of the matter. The thing about lying that seems to carry ethical weight is the intent behind the lie.

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Pretty straightforward question?

Thinking back to Dante's Inferno, the most serious of all sins his Catholic theology could provide him with was betrayal.

Hard to say it is the worst, but betrayal is something most people universally seem to feel is an especially tragic form of terrible evil.

It consists of willfully harming others which are our family, friends, or allies (in other words, the people who we should most protect from harm, and who love and count on us).

To me, it is profound evil the enormity of which is hard to convey in words.
8  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Need your help on: July 27, 2016, 02:32:33
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i will keep thinking stillwater thanks for an amazing push lets say so i would like to hear your opinion but not like which will answer my question but will be more likely a little hint because i am stuck : D


It is the kind of question you can progress on, in the sense that you know more than you did when you started, but possibly not fully settle. And that is all I can offer... a few tugs further down the rabbit hole.

Perhaps "god" is asking them self if they actually have free will, or just think they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dqNiSGo9yU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIXGxRZk3G4

These two presentations can help bring you deeper into the question if you are new to the academics of it.

There is this idea of "free won't" described in the first presentation (and touched on in the second):

Basically it goes like this:

When humans act quickly, and even with conscious intent, often the action will happen even before the awareness that there is a choice to be made even happens for the person. This is tested with a reflex experiment described in that presentation. So already, we have fairly strong evidence that our bodies are employing our limbs to do things that we didn't consciously choose for them to do.

A model of the relationship of the conscious mind to our actions is theorized by some neurologists that says our unconscious is making most of our decisions for us, and then sending its decisions to the conscious mind later, in some cases. The conscious mind is given time to "veto" the choice the rest of the brain made, and choose not to do the thing. So in effect our minds are choosing which of our actions not to do, instead of taking an actual positive initiative. This mainly applies to things which happen in the space of seconds; more involved decisions, like who to date, or when to walk to the fridge, seem like they may have larger conscious components.

So that is a good introduction to the kind of issues there are, taking the situation from a purely physical vantage.

Further along, we have to define what we actually mean by free will.

1) Does it mean that our conscious mind is making decisions based on information it receives?

2) Does it mean that we could have made other choices to the ones we made? (this has consequences on what the metaphysical structure of the universe is like)

3) Does it mean that we humans have or are some sort of immaterial being separate from what appears to be a deterministic universe? (obvious strong metaphysical consequences)

Most people seem to think that the question of free will necessitates more than 1, up to 2, but not necessarily 3; but it is important to know which question you are actually asking too.

If the universe is a self-contained materialist system (which I don't think it is), the question of free will is probably easily answered. Questions of spooky quantum events aside, since there is no obvious answer for how a materialist consciousness would actively cause a particle to take one possible quantum outcome over another (and everything that consciousness would do would have predictable material causes as well), it really seems like there is no place for it in such a world.

So let's say that we accept either monism of mind, or dualism (meaning respectively that only mind exists, or that mind and matter exist separately). We are basically in the dark. If we are describing a physical system, we can explain why things happen, using macro physics, chemistry, and micro physics. If we are talking about an immaterial being, there are no cogs turning we can see! We can't point at atoms to explain things. Does the immaterial being have any kind of structure? If it does, what describes the relationship its parts have between one another? If there are laws governing these parts, then we have a physics of the immaterial! Which is an absurdity... since a non-physical thing by its very definition doesn't have physics.

If, true to form, the immaterial beings have no parts which operate on one another according to laws... then it is truly anyone's guess, since there is almost no way to study it or understand its workings!
9  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Need your help on: July 24, 2016, 18:53:55
How about this...


Do you have free will?

How do you know you really do, rather than just it feeling like you do?

If you have free will, does that mean that before you made a choice, any of the options could have happened?

If any of the things could have happened, what caused you to choose one or the other?

If you were caused by something to make the choice, wasn't it that thing which determined the outcome, not you?

If you were not caused by something to make the choice, doesn't that mean it happened for no reason?

10  World Cultures, Traditions and Religions / Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions! / Re: A Rosicrucian Lecture on: June 29, 2016, 20:39:10
Wow, the audio panning on that video is terrible. I would have converted that to mono so it isn't like he is whispering the lecture into your left ear.

Will have to give it a listen though! Thanks for posting!
11  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Missing my "nonphysical activities" :( on: June 17, 2016, 11:49:13
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Projecting isn't that important.  At least, it's not as important as actually living your life here the best you can.

Thirded.

Which is funny, granted where we are, here on the Pulse!  cheesy

I think a lot of people tend to associate things like projection with "spiritual ability" or advancement or status, and that can confuse matters. Which isn't to say it doesn't have its own value, but it is one part of our very rich lives here in this world! All things in balance.
12  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Shadow creature tries to pull the leg of a woman on: June 12, 2016, 02:56:14
Hmm...

I tend to think it was a coincidental shadow cast by something else happening in the city, because it is the answer that requires the least amount of unknowns in order to be true.

But interesting to view the scene in the light of a supernatural event nonetheless.
13  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I was in a cult on: June 09, 2016, 04:16:45
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I guess it wasn't obvious that I am not going to say what cult it is... it wasn't obvious? If I name them they will come for me & this site.

It makes sense to leave details out if you think your safety is threatened by their inclusion.

But I can guarantee they are not coming for this site  cheesy

On the offchance they did, there is nothing of note they could achieve other than a pile of inane posts for a few days.

No one is going to take down the Pulse by firing psychic hellfire missiles, of that I am sure. Maybe the Astral Dynamics forum... but not here.


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If you did join a group and they all seem to worship the "master" you are most definitely in a cult. For example, one day the master says you should only wear black clothing and later you decide to wear something purple...then all the members keep coming up to you saying, "the master says not to wear that, what is your problem? Why aren't you listening to what the master said? You must not be a true soul". Or maybe you tried this meditation technique and wanted to share how well it works...but did the master teach you that? If the master didn't teach you then it is a false teaching! Blasphemy! Everything the master says becomes a new rule like a commandment.

Sounds about par for the course.

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Let me know if you heard it before, I have to use my own words instead of the lingo. So first of all, everyday you want to really study the details of your surroundings. Try to memorize every single detail of your room, the placement, the texture, the colors... Close your eyes and see it exactly in your mind as it is in reality. Open your eyes & see if you got every single little detail right. The smallest details, it is all in the details. Now close your eyes and imagine touching everything & feeling the texture. Imagine what the texture is like as if you were reaching out & touching it. When you can reach out and touch something with your mind & feel it, then you got it. At night before you go to sleep, spend sometime studying the details of your room, then close your eyes and imagine touching those things with your mind, feel the texture & density. When I do these things I start to have more lucid dreams, I can remember the details, it feels more real, I start to wake up inside the dream every morning.

That is a common technique for visualization. A fair number of people have had success with that technique here.
14  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I was in a cult on: June 05, 2016, 16:35:08
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If you are truly concerned that others learn from your mistakes, you'll quit with vagueness and spill.

Yep.

Each of the questions asked of you would be best answered in about a paragraph if your goal is to help others avoid the same mistakes.


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Steve Hassan is a mental health specialist who was heavily involved with a certain cult (the famous Moonies), and later in life worked toward studying the social dynamics of these situations, and how to best help concerned family extract their loved ones (victims) from the mental control of their keepers.

Joe Rogan interviewed Hassan August of last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQrsGjT0Sn4

His ideas might be interesting to you, or possibly useful for reflecting on what happened with you!
15  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I was in a cult on: June 04, 2016, 08:39:13
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They made promises of something I wanted.

Which was what?

In cases like these, it helps to provide developed answers. One of the best ways to protect others from such exploitation in the future is to be thorough in your explanations of what happened to you, and the reasons you can see for it all (when it is safe to do so).
16  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I was in a cult on: June 03, 2016, 09:45:25
Fill us in  wink

How did it start for you?

What about you personally made you vulnerable to being exploited this way?

How was the moment when you "snapped out of it"? Was it difficult /dangerous for you to be up front with the group members when you needed to leave?

How did your departure play out?
17  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: Spiritual alchemy on: May 16, 2016, 16:23:07
Congratulations   cool
18  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Pulse Island! / Re: New possible project similar to Astral Pulse Island but more like Earth on: May 14, 2016, 03:37:07
I would say it would be good to invoke Campbell's game analogy again-

Within a game world, there is an internally consistent set of physics that governs events there. The physics of the game world are not universal laws that govern all of reality, they are a set of rules which this particular bit of reality mostly obeys.

The physics thing might work along the same lines. There exist a set of rules that seem to govern the interactions of matter and energy here, which makes this a physical world (it has physics). No one would suppose the laws which govern this place govern all of reality, any more than they would the game. The laws of a game world are arbitrary. So too might the physical laws of this place be. It may be accurate to think of this place as a kind of simulation which results from using arbitrary laws.
19  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Pulse Island! / Re: New possible project similar to Astral Pulse Island but more like Earth on: May 13, 2016, 08:25:15
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Of course astral obeys the laws of physics, such as quantum. Its part of the universe.

The word "physics" and "physical" have the same root. Only physical things can have physics by definition.

So either:

a) if a projection environment is governed by a system of physics, it is therefore physical

b)if a projection environment is non-physical, it doesn't have physics


I don't think it is obvious at all that a projection environment would have physics, much less the same quantum physics as here- in fact I would think assuming this would be counterintuitive.

Maybe what you mean to say, is a projection environment is probably governed by some manner of laws (not necessarily physical laws)? That seems likely to be true.
20  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: will justice ever lead to peace on: April 23, 2016, 21:44:25
"Justice" is one of those words that gets people into trouble... not the least of which because different people think of different concepts of it, and then have a conversation about it as though everyone else in the conversation has the same concept in their head as they do.

So to even start the conversation, the definition being used must be discussed and agreed on first.

That is primarily what Plato's Republic was about actually... figuring out a definition for the concept of justice that makes sense.

Thrasymachus, one of Plato's opponents in the discussion, didn't believe there was such as thing as justice. He asserted that when people use that word, they are really talking about the tendency of the stronger to force their will on the weaker through law (thus he called justice the "advantage of the stronger"). Sadly, in my country this seems to be a large part of what law is for.

His answer by the way, was sort of strange to modern ears. He basically said that justice was when everyone did the job they were best suited to (everything in its proper place), and that within a single individual, when that person was motivated by appetites, but ruled by reason tempered by noble emotions.

Plato's idea of justice was more about what people contribute to society.

I think the modern concept of justice is more concerned with everyone receiving what they are believed to be due... be it money, or debt, reward, punishment, etc. But of course that opens up a whole new discussion about what people actually deserve, and how we know this.

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A non specific example. If you had two factions, each with competing belief systems. If those of both factions were acting justly, they would operate with the understanding that the others beliefs are as legitimate as their own and would leave out ideas of who is right or wrong. By acting justly you would commit to a personal examination of the situation where you try imaginatively to see through the others eyes. To cultivate empathy, to nurture it and to take satisfaction in its growth in yourself is to be just. When you you look out of the eyes of another and see yourself, you will act justly.

This idea of justice has more to do with Plato's concept than the modern notion I think, insofar as it is concerned with how a person would best act, rather than what they are due.

I agree with it to a point, but of course there is the caveat that not every opposing position is justified or defensible. For instance, say that I am arguing to you that you do not exist. From your perpective, questions of solipsism aside, you know conclusively that you exist. Other people will be demonstrably wrong, and in situations that will have major consequences. Learning to understand their perspective is helpful, and it will help explain where they are making errors, and how to best reason with them, but I think often this does not mean that we should consider their position equally valid alongside our own. 

But outside of that, the principle applies pretty broadly. To use my own country as an example again, I think people in the US are often guilty of not fully understanding the viewpoints of their political opponents. People surround themselves with like-minded people, and frequent the same media outlets and idea exchanges. Very few people are reasonable enough to learn how their "enemies" think.
21  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Dark or light themes when reading about altered states? on: April 13, 2016, 11:45:23
You mean like... graphically dark? Like dark background, light text?

I expected you to be talking about something else... like dark vs light content, whatever that might mean, lol.

I think I prefer dark background, so I will vote assuming that is what you mean  wink

22  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Munroe hemi synch cd on: April 12, 2016, 04:32:49
From what I have seen, binaural beats can be a helpful tool, but you still have to do the work too. The Monroe hemi-sync ones are good, but not so much better that they justify price, in my opinion.

Net frequency of 4-8 hz  is where projections are believed to mainly happen- in theta, or early delta states.
23  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Does marrying a divoiced women with 3 kids have spiritual benefits? on: March 26, 2016, 01:52:59
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doesn't the law of attraction work for someone being generous

This is the point that is tripping you up.

I will say it again.

When one person gives something, in expectation of receiving something else, that event is called a sale, or a trade. We are not talking about generosity in a case like that, so take that out of the equation.

What you are really asking here is whether the Law of Attraction can be counted on as a means of exchange, like Paypal.

The answer is... maybe? I don't see how what you are asking can be truly answered. It is basically impossible to collect data on. All we have are anecdotes of times people believe they were granted various boons. If it really functions as the concept of the "LoA" suggests, then the benefits could well be across time and space, which makes collecting data even more meaningless.  My suspicion is that anyone who claims to objectively know things such as the efficacy of the LoA in general has probably made many assumptions they can't justify.

You are asking the wrong questions to be sure. The first answers that No-leaf and Xanth gave were pretty good, and get to the heart of things here.

Re-read every answer that anyone has given you in this thread.

The answers will repeat themselves if you keep asking the same questions  wink
24  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Does marrying a divoiced women with 3 kids have spiritual benefits? on: March 25, 2016, 22:51:02
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I guess I am still a bit confused as I have been taught as we all have that in the law of attraction what you desire you get. So if I desire a reward for my generosity won't I get one? What gives?

Is the hypothetical exchange you are describing generosity? It sounds more like a trade, or a purchase, if you really think about it.

25  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: I'm back On my Spiritual Path. Need Motivation. on: March 19, 2016, 07:27:31
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I don't need a video. I need someone to train with.

How do you know?

Sometimes we have a teacher or companion... sometimes we find our own ways.
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