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101  World Cultures, Traditions and Religions / Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions! / Re: People & My Beliefs on: December 02, 2014, 15:53:51
What do you believe, and why are they your beliefs?

Sorry to address each of your threads with questions, lol.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course. Thing about opinions... some of them make sense, and some of them don't. There are bad reasons to believe what turns out to be real, and somewhat good reasons to believe what may end up being false.

For instance... say I believe it is dangerous to stand in the road, and I reason this is because the road is actually black quicksand. In this case I accidentally arrived at the actual truth that the road was dangerous, but through self-deception or confusion.

Say in another case, everytime I go to my friend's home, he turns off the electrical breakers in his house, and breaks out candles. It might be somewhat rational for me to assume he has problems with this electrical system at home, or at least hasn't been paying his bills; yet this isn't the case, because it was all a deception on the friend's part. In this case I believe something that is false, but for logical reasons. My other friends, who know about the act, know that I am wrong about this, despite my understandable reasons for thinking so.

Following this line of thought, I think most people are more interested in your thinking process, than in the exact thing you believe. No one can tell you with the real truth is, but people can and do engage with your path for getting there in your head.
102  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: how does somebody become a median on: December 02, 2014, 15:33:18
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If you want to be a median, just stand in between two lanes of highway.  Smiley

Darn you guys got here first.  cheesy
103  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Thoughts on Ferguson on: December 02, 2014, 15:30:43
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I wonder how things would change when the realization hits that when you hurt someone else... you're actually only hurting yourself, because you are everything and everything is you. 

It's a strong realization...

Yes, and it has many sad and brutally heavy corollaries.

For instance, the reverse reading, which is that you are the author of all the suffering that has ever been or will be- every viciously evil thing that ever happened to anyone or anything was all your doing.

A real show stopper.
104  Magic / Welcome to Magic! / Re: Connecting With Darkness on: December 02, 2014, 14:33:06
What does dark mean? What defines it? What traits do dark things have? I am still trying to establish this from your other thread.

I sort of get a picture of "dark" meaning "neutral with style" in how you have used the word so far.

105  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Tentacles Coming Out of Mouth on: December 01, 2014, 11:48:48
Why do you suppose you might be a demon or monster?

How do you feel about being such?
106  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Is nothing an option? on: November 30, 2014, 05:17:34
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Your quite correct.
Any reality which sets rules and limitations would provide this same "learning opportunity".  Smiley

I've always been curious about those other physical systems with radically different rule sets Thomas Campbell is always talking about.

Maybe one of these days I will visit the 1-dimensional world, and experience life in the line plane. I wonder what challenges the line-landers face... they can go forwards, or they can go backwards... maybe they get frustrated when there is someone further up on the line than they are, but they aren't moving fast enough... and they have to learn to live gracefully on the line, and respect the pace of those in front of them. Maybe the line-landers even consider the segments in front and behind them their family, because they are the only other segments they ever get to see, and go through mourning when those segments pass out of existence finally.
107  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Is nothing an option? on: November 28, 2014, 08:58:27
Hehe, I like that.

The opposite of most people, at least.

I guess the virtue is if there were nothing, it couldn't be worse than here, if being here is a bad experience for you.

Maybe they will let you do nothing for a while... sort of like how at the airport they have those "prayer rooms" (what are they for... to pray you don't crash or something for good measure?); they can have a little bubble of nothing off to the side for you to nothing in for a while  wink
108  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Thoughts on Ferguson on: November 28, 2014, 03:30:23
It is a matter of a certain sector of any given group feeling powerless. When a person feels they have lost power and control in their normal society, in extreme cases they sometimes want to re-assert that they indeed do have certain powers. For instance, in a hierarchy, when someone lower is attacked or reprimanded by a superior, it is a very common thing for that person to be more likely to repeat an identical behavior to someone below them. This is a human thing, and a general animal behavior common to many societies of creatures. In another sense, there are those that feel as though a way to re-assert they have personal power is to visit harm on others. Not always the others that first harmed or rebuked them, but it is immaterial; if a person can re-establish to themselves they have the same power over others which they have seen others express over them, it works out.

Many school and work-place shootings have this component to them (although there are other pyschiatric and pharmaceutical components to those cases).

The riots are very similar. A part of the community feels, rightly or wrongly, that its power has been taken away from it by society. The general and unfocused destruction is an attempt to re-establish that personal power. It is worth examining the social narrative that leads people to feel this way.
109  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Thoughts on Ferguson on: November 27, 2014, 04:15:40
I agree with the above. I feel the rioters have no place re-directing their anger against random targets, then, or especially now. Pre-meditated destruction helps no one.

I think chiefly the rioters themselves are to blame, but no small part of the blame falls on media and "leader" figures who have chosen to focus on a senseless tragedy, and build it into a racial case where none existed. People like Al Sharpton and Eric holder to me bear not the smallest part of the responsibility for the destruction, because they know the effect of labeling this a racial hate crime, and calling for special reactions. They knew this would be the result, yet still chose to attach inflammatory dimensions to the happening. Folks like that are the true racists I feel. The call for action on a case which has not been judged is also a very poor show for an attorney general; the court system aspires to be blind. I believe these men actually authored racial tensions in a place where they didn't previously exist, and that is also damaging to the harmony of society.

I think it should  be clear to future leaders not to speak only by the composition of their feelings, but also by the likely results those expressed feelings will generate. Excusing oneself from the likely consequences of one's words is unacceptable at that level, and is also to me part of the intent question Xanth has expressed. The words themselves are not enough-- not everyone is prepared to hear the same words at the same times-- and we must have care what would be in the best interests of those around us to be told. It is not a matter of hiding truth, or disguising one's feelings, but rather recognizing that when we address others, we should have their best interests at heart.

I wish the people there safety and peace.
110  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Any laws of Physics in other realities? on: November 27, 2014, 03:51:43
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The very basics of absolutely everything is composed of 3 parts.

1st is it's density.
2nd is its frequency and
3rd is its energetic quotient.

Ok, going to be a hopeless contrarian today, and ask how did you arrive at this?

These seem more like properties of a physical system bound by similar laws to our physical system. Why do you suppose non-physical realities would stratify according to physical patterns?
111  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Magic mushrooms and astral projection on: November 23, 2014, 19:48:14
Ok just to clear up policy here, with this stuff we cannot advise on use, safety of use, or anything related to the actually substance itself. Mostly legal reasons. The safety information I am providing is for your benefit, but is not advice in how to procede.

What we can discuss is the nature of the substances themselves, and the experiences behind them. So to that end-

When a person engages in that activity, the first risk they encounter is sourcing. Mushrooms are notoriously difficult to identify. Even a trained mycologist (mushroom expert) cannot identify them by sight, and requires genetic or chemical testing to ascertain what the sample is.

The mushrooms sought for their psychoactive properties are literally identical to others which are deadly toxic. The mushrooms are thus as safe as their source. If this is something you engage in, you must be sure that the person who sourced them grew them.

Usually the active ingredient in those mushrooms is psilocybin. It is a hallucinogen fairly well studied, and believed to have minimal lasting effects, but this is not known for certainty. The sorts of experiences it tends to produce are erratic, intense affairs that can be both elating and horrifying to the user. For this reason it is unsafe to use without several sober attendents.

It is like a projection in the sense of being a non-physical experience, but it is unlike a standard projection in terms of being radically uncontrolled. I can understand what motivates a person to engage here, but it isn't the most balanced way to approach this art. If you participate, you will be provided with a very different experience that may inform your life in some way, but will not likely aid you in conscious projections. They are too different.

Be safe, and try to keep the discussion experience and theory-related. Unfortunately we cannot really discuss use.
112  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Are we Gods?? on: November 23, 2014, 17:19:57
Maybe we are just those ones that like the experience then  wink
113  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Music takes you places on: November 23, 2014, 17:08:21
Back to the mid 90's in his head to go he wants.

There are times in the wider reality where you might encounter other beings that communicate by passing you packages of memories, and you get to understand them by being them for a little while. Music is almost there.

Try as I might, I can't make it the 90's in my head again, but for an hour or two. Part of it is being a much younger person with a different point of view and life circumstance. Part of it is that the world had a brighter outlook in some ways. Been there quite a few times though. It is a nice place. Let's see if I can find some tickets...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXnxTNIWkc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khrx-zrG460

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJxFAoiWSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkd4vGZuXc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f7EJTXkJBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZktNItwexo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEDw9xgSmSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7-CKirWZE



There, that should buy you 35 minutes of 90's time.






114  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Are we Gods?? on: November 20, 2014, 02:32:50
Yes and no. If everyone is a god... then isn't no one a god?

For a simpler, easier to follow example...

Say you take a feudal, European monarchy, and now declare that everyone is a king. Everyone gets to wear a crown (but not everyone can afford a golden crown, so some people can make theirs out of wood or such). Everyone is in charge, but they can't really make others do what they want, because all the subjects are kings now too. Everyone gets to live in the castle. Are these kings like the king that they had previously? Not really... some things are defined by exclusion.

So if everyone is a god, then being a god means something different than it meant before. The very fact of it being a universal trait means it lost its original definition.

Most meanings of the word that stem from the Greek idea center around the god being the apex of a certain ideal. There are none better than this being at what they excel at. They are the measuring stick against which all others must be compared.

It is another language issue again I think.
115  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Going on a spiritual quest... on: November 16, 2014, 23:26:45
Buddhism also has a lot to say about fasting. The origin story of Buddhism, the story of Siddhartha, relates how he was once a samana, and sought to purify himself through extreme fasting. The way the story is usually told is that he ate a grain of rice a day, lol. Anyhow, the thing that snapped him out of that lifestyle was that he was said to have heard a musician tuning their stringed instrument, and he remarked how when it was too loose, it was useless, and when it was too tight it snapped. This metaphor is used to illustrate one of the principle doctrines in Buddhism, which is the concept of the "Middle Way"; essentially Siddhartha decided he needed to live his life like the string. He needed enough self control that his mind and actions were focused, and without waste. But a person still needs basic sustenance he reasoned, so for this reason Buddhism does not promote the intense fasting some forms of Hindu mysticism do.

I tend to agree with this perspective myself.
116  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Going on a spiritual quest... on: November 16, 2014, 13:41:49
I would just say be sure you have the proper provisions for the area you are camping. No use going on a spiritual journey if you run into problems that cut you short!

It is your own personal choice... but for me, if I felt better, or had a boost when I wasn't using substances like cigarettes or alcohol, I would just leave them behind and not look back!

About the negative attacks... pretend they don't exist, and tell yourself you have more power over yourself than anyone else, and I think you will find they will play a progressively lesser role in your life overtime, until you don't even experience them at all; I don't think it matters if they are actually happening or not. The result will be the same regardless most likely.

Goodluck this time, and I hope the time is meaningful to you!
117  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: Spiritual Messages in Popular Music on: November 16, 2014, 13:30:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-mxVxFXLg


"I don't think you have a very good voice, but you're a singer. How do you do that?"

"The better the singer's voice, the harder it is to believe what they're saying, so I use my faults to my advantage."



Always loved that.

Sometimes, you just gotta dance with a lamp, because it's the right thing to do.
118  Astral Chat / Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hey, Everyone on: November 16, 2014, 00:48:32
I spent some time in Budapest, and the surrounding country side. I loved meeting the wonderful people in Hungary. They were very real in a way westerners rarely are.

Welcome to the forum, and I hope you find it useful!
119  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: Spiritual Messages in Popular Music on: November 15, 2014, 19:03:28
The male Kate Bush, lol... I really do wonder who that would really be.

It is hard to get in just one artist... Peter Gabriel is part of it (it was a great duo btw, wish they did more)... but then so is David Bowie.  Maybe the Tears for Fears duo is another part, and Sting yet another. Maybe the final fragment of the male Kate Bush soul was given to David Byrne of the Talking heads.
120  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Dream about mothers getting injected with babies on: November 15, 2014, 12:03:18
Someone should take those aliens to a sex-ed class.
121  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Societal Intent on: November 15, 2014, 12:01:43
With respect to the idea in the Star about allowing or disallowing commenting on the stories, unfortunately I would have to say they should allow it everytime. Having the voices of your peers pointing out the inaccuracies, obfuscations, and slant of an online piece, or at least engage in enough back and forth that the sides' biases are clear, is worth more to society than social niceties. Granted, it would be good if this were possible in a more polite venue, but to me, having a better angle on the truth as my fellows see it trumps a pleasant reading experience any day of the week.

I am definitely with you on the question of intent, it is very clear to me too. A person's intent is the thing they have the greatest control over in any situation. Removed from a physical context, it is probably the only component of our actions that remains. In Buddhism, there is an 8-part checklist for promoting a person's ethical and mindful behavior. Intent is number 2 on that list, which should tell you something.
122  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: Spiritual Messages in Popular Music on: November 15, 2014, 10:59:39
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SW...Kate Bush; the eclectic princess...first song I remember was SNL or Fridays: Rolling the Ball

Hehe... I think you mean "Them Heavy People", from her first album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ceRq57SsaM

That song, of all things, was partially about projection actually.

Always loved Peter Gabriel too...

Never listened to many of Robert Fripp's solo works, but King Krimson has some brilliant songs... Exiles... Islands and the Formentera lady... the entierty of "In the Court of the Krimson King" really...

They were a brilliant band until they got on that on that strange hard electric guitar fest in the 80's...

Kate Bush also cited King Krimson of all things as an influence as well, lmao.

I am surprised I had never heard Sheila Chandra.
123  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Ecstasy of Saint Teresa, or how I came to experience Primal Union with Creation on: November 14, 2014, 17:38:08
Oh hey, a Stookie  cheesy

what have you been up to of late?
124  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Ecstasy of Saint Teresa, or how I came to experience Primal Union with Creation on: November 14, 2014, 14:31:31
Yes, it was amazing to me too to learn that we have mechanisms for directly interfacing with the greater reality in the form we now are, and in a very immediate and powerful way. And afterward, you feel powerful yourself. There was so much vitality added, and there is still is. It just sort of flows up your back.

I would like others to experience it. It really adds to your life considerably.

I am curious about what you mean when you say Kundalini exercises. I have heard people say this in many contexts, to mean many things. What sort of exercises are you pursuing, if you don't mind me asking?

If it is how I think it is, I don't think it is like something you build up, and one day you are "good enough" that it happens. I think it is sort of like exit techniques in projection... you don't spend your time doing them all day long... you wait for the moment that your are primed for it, and you can do it effortlessly. It is like a combination of state of mind and physiological states...
125  Bug Reports and Questions / Forums Bugs Reports and Questions / Re: Can provide forum help on: November 11, 2014, 17:24:28
Thanks for being open mind!

Well, the problem are the descriptions. After i entered the sections i saw that there were random topics in sections that probably don't belong there and it made it more confusing.
But maybe i need some better understanding about the sections, either this or some topics need to get moved to their proper place so it won't cause confusion for new members.

1. What is the difference the sections: "Out of Body Experiences!'' and: "Astral Projection Experiences!"?  Since it seems that there are both focused on experiences while you are not in your physical body.


Yeah, that is poorly worded, now that I look at it.

The "Out of body experiences" section is for general discussion about the subject itself. The "Astral projection experiences" section is actually about recounting specific experiences. You can get this clarification if you compare the topic descriptions attached to each. The confusing thing is that the word "experience" is used in two different senses in each heading: in the first case, it is used as part of a common three-word construction to describe the entire field. It is unfortunately the same word used in the section heading just below, where the construction is merely two words ("Astral projection"), that are used as an adjective phrase to modify "experiences", where the section is specifically about experiences themselves.

It seems like an arcane distinction now that I look closely at it, I agree. Eventually everyone seems to get it, but you are right in that it could be better phrased. Maybe Adrian can change it, but he might not consider it high priority  rolleyes
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