For me it's about understanding how I'm a part of the entire universe, not just the physical world. It's not just philosophically understanding other dimensions of reality, but experiencing them. The experience forces a person to grow and open their "spiritual" eyes.

Sometimes just experiencing another aspect of reality is all that is needed to change perspective. Then the rest of the questions start to fall into place.

My lucid dreams tend to be very similar to my phasing with same clarity and recall. I rarely notice much difference, but perhaps my regular dreams are different too.

If lucid dreams and AP's are separated by clarity and fogginess, how do you differentiate a sluggish, foggy OBE vs. a mentally clear & lucid OBE. Under this definition, the sluggish OBE would just be a dream. Eh?

In the end really, it's all just consciousness and where we choose to focus our awareness within that consciousness. Trying to put labels on where we choose to focus is probably holding us back more than helping.

This has came up several times before, and no one really agrees. There are a myriad of viewpoints on the subject. I'd check them all out before assuming anything.

I believe them to be the same thing in the same focus of consciousness. Others believe an LD is a step below AP with less clarity. I guess it comes down to individual perception.

That person hasn't posted here in 2 years. 

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For someone who hasn't experienced it, he has a valid question. Even if it is just a dream, it's the most fascinating & realistic dream ever, and still worth the effort. And trying to find out exactly how real it is can be fun too.

But if he doesn't feel compelled, maybe it's not for him.

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Thanks for sharing - sounds awesome. Good observations and note taking. It's a great example of "phasing".

Oh yeah, Duh! lol

Wore a Fonzie jacket

The only common sense thing left out was we had to fight them there so we wouldn't have to fight them here. I was so worried about iraq's battleships invading our shore.

I'd like to think that our thoughts are illusions but our actions are real. Actions are inspired by the illusion of thought but that doesn't make the thought real. The universe is a very real place constrained by the laws of physics. The structure of the universe can't be manipulated by thoought alone.    

If consciousness is all that really exists, then "thinking" is the action, and the percepts and concepts the thoughts are linking would be illusory. The act of thinking may be the only "real" thing about us, used to create an illusory universe.

Perhaps that's where the idea of eastern philosophical "non-thinking" came from. It's just a method to stop thoughts from linking percepts and concepts that create the illusion, and then be able to experience the pure "action" of consciousness before it creates illusion.

You might give www.ourultimatereality.com a shot. Adrian is selling "Our Ultimate Reality" over there and he might be able to help you out.

Welcome to the Astral Pulse Jose!

You came to the right place for some help. I suggest reading through the "Astral FAQ" and "Permanent Astral Topics" sections if you haven't yet. There's a lot of good stuff in there.

While I haven't figured it all out (I'm trying to though), my current method of looking at it is: it's not that the universe doesn't exist, it just doesn't exist in the way we perceive it to exist. Things are real, just not the way we think them to be.

This way I don't feel like the universe is a huge, cruel practical joke being played on me. I'm gonna be really upset if it is...