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51  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Does individual consciousness survive transition on: August 01, 2017, 20:44:56
That adds up to a very small amount, if any.  smiley

I obviously have a different take on "things", "natural laws", and working with assumptions and beliefs.

Have you ever had an obe, or a lucid dream? Did you ever had a past-life or a life-between-lives regression? Such experiences dramatically changed my views.

Be careful not to fall into false assumptions regarding past-life regression experiences. We have a tendency to connect experiences to ourselves when in reality that "past-life" may just be someone's experience that happens to be useful or relevant to your experiences.

I believe Tom Campbell said that the larger system is not above lying to you for you own good. If it predicts that you thinking you had a past life will result in growth it may produce an experience that conforms to what you are willing to believe.

On the other hand we have to keep open minds on the real life value of a re-incarnation system as it seems to have benefits. Can I ask what it was about these past-life experiences that made you feel connected to them personally?

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For me it is important to have an idea where I'm headed, why I'm here, what I should I with my life, and such.

On the other hand, science and scientists, that are supposed to rely on "facts", demonstrations, proofs, were repeatedly proven incorrect.

Anyway, each with his own ...

That fact that a given assertion under scientific method can be proven incorrect is a good thing. In contrast, look at how many aspects of the first and second testament of the bible appear to be incorrect - yet people continue to believe in every word of it without any reason bar the book being self proclaimed untouchable fact.

Following the scientific method allows you to let go of outdated beliefs and saves you from falling into new beliefs. The purpose of the method is not to put your fingers in your ears and sing to yourself whenever you encounter something potentially unknowable like Karma. The purpose is to keep an open mind on the possibility of such a mechanic being true or false and not throwing in with either side until all of the evidence has been collected and the verdict is out.
52  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Larger consciousnesses system question? on: August 01, 2017, 06:05:21
That's a lot harder for me to take seriously. So how did all this stuff come into existence in the first place?

As you wrote that you don't take my opinions seriously, I don't see any reason for wasting my time further.

I can answer on how the cosmos developed. The origins of existence is, and will probably remain, unknowable for us fundamentally. An easy example is to imagine an artificial intelligence program running in a computer in our physical reality. We control the inputs and outputs in the AI's reality and unless we choose to make it otherwise it will never have access to our layer of reality.

Computer hardware supports the existence of the AI's consciousness. The structure-able energy that can be used to form consciousness that we often refer to as "source" is our version of the computer hardware. We can't know where the source comes from any more than the AI can without finding a way to be beyond what we are, consciousness.

What we can understand is how consciousness comes into existence given a blank canvas of source energy and the ability to modify that energy semi-randomly. Imagine developing the AI from absolute scratch by semi-randomly flipping bits for billions of years of simulation time until some real Boolean logical circuits happen to get made. The key is that the random circuits that don't do anything for the first billion years are irrelevant, whereas the first successful circuit leads to increased rate of additional success and complexity.

It may sound unlikely that complexity can emerge from randomness, but look at it this way; there are billions of planets in our universe and the odds that we ended up on one of them that supports life sounds unlikely. In reality, our existence is derived from the fact that this planet is the one that supports life. We are here, thus our planet was the one. Consciousness evolves because it is what works in a sea of randomness.
53  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Larger consciousnesses system question? on: July 31, 2017, 20:54:53
I have lost a lot of trust in the physical for spiritual growth. Do you think I can eventually evolve into these higher consciousness realms without coming back to the physical? I think I know what the answer is but I want to know what you think. Thanks for chiming in.

I am only saying this to give you some extra information to consider so forgive the slap in the face from the fish of reality to come, haha. I am going to go out on a limb and say you haven't lost trust in the physical for spiritual growth. The physical reality is just a tool; spiritual growth is always an internally driven mechanic. Perhaps you have lost trust in the effectiveness of the tool, but more likely you have lost trust in your own ability to use the tool to drive your internal growth.

If you have trouble overcoming the challenges of physical reality, the same challenges will find you in higher consciousness realms because the issue is actually hard coded into your being, it isn't an artifact of the system. Jumping to a reality where things are already in a state of bliss is comparable to the fantasies we create in our minds to hide and avoid confronting the fears we have in this reality.

Back to the bottom line - you most certainly can evolve into higher realities without coming back here. It would be niave to think that there is only one way, furthermore, the fact that you may have recognized problems with your core consciousness gives you a leg up to resume the journey in other systems. The fundamental question is how fast will the progress be? Ten thousand years of non physical reality learning may be equivalent to one life-time's lessons in the physical. It all depends on how capable you have become at driving your own growth.
54  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: "You Can't Always Get What You Want": intellect or character? on: July 30, 2017, 03:50:37
Different paths suit different people, path of learning and knowledge, path of faith, path of giving. Character is more of a reflection of the current quality and understanding of the individual but makes no guarantee on the potential for further growth. Intellect on the other hand is arguably a more powerful long term strategy as it allows new logical information to be quickly assimilated for growth. Pick the kind of people you have the capability to help and learn from based on the path that suits you. For me I learn from and am good at teaching new ideas to intellectuals.
55  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Larger consciousnesses system question? on: July 30, 2017, 03:43:33
So I heard Tom Campbell talking about the larger consciousness system, and how this system is still evolving. So my question is do we tap into this system? Like can we devolve or evolve based on where we are in this larger consciousness system? Like is this thing objectively out there and we are somewhere on this larger consciousness tree?

EDIT: I guess what I am really trying to ask is does a highly evolved being have better access to this higher consciousness system than a lower evolved being? Like are we someplace on the consciousnesses system scale? Or do we all have equal access anyplace on this consciousness system scale if given the chance? As you can see I have a hard time explaining what I really am asking. Put I hope you understand.

Thanks.

Your personal evolution or de-evolution isn't based on where you participate in the larger consciousness system; your consciousness level can be influenced by your environment but it is ultimately personal. The system as a whole however, can evolve or devolve based on your individual contribution. It is objectively out there. You are part of the human society larger consciousness group, the planet earth system, and all the systems that are a super-set of ours.

Access to the system can be based on a number of factors. One example is do you have the personal quality to receive telepathic communication without being blocked by conflicting personal beliefs or do you have the language processing skills required to give context to an alien idea in human terms?

Adding to the above, there may be rules built into our reality system that govern what type of telepathic communication can be accessed. The system may be intelligent enough to predict the growth outcome of any given piece of information and choose to deny it if it is likely to cause you to have an inflated ego or you intend to share the information with someone who isn't ready to handle it.

Being participant in higher reality systems also requires a code of conduct and playing by the rules. If your quality of consciousness is too low to participate with the adults without making a fool of yourself you are limited to the children's table.

The larger consciousness system is a real system that comprises an unimaginable quantity of sub-systems each with unique rules and participants. Many of us have been "kicked out" of experiences for behaving in low quality manners. I have been asked to leave a reality by the inhabits before after breaking an entering into someone's house. It is really hard to tell what is actually going on when this happens to be fair so I wouldn't cement any beliefs.
56  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: When I die I want to - Fear of death topic on: July 19, 2017, 08:47:33
@Thaomasofgrey- I was under the impression they don't force you to do anything, even if they could how could they if I don't enter the light, or come home so to speak, also becoming one with  the ultimate, being is definitely not one of the things i'm looking forward to at all, I rather be independent, not like everyone else, that's still like being a droid or something to me. also I don't see how me wanting to be in seclusion sometimes will make me selfish if i'm going out helping spirits and beings in need all the time, I don't have to do that then that would make me selfish, but that is something I always wanted to do.

Maybe we aren't forced, it is not quite what I meant. I suppose what I was getting at is that being happy anywhere sounds like something we may need to embrace to be capable of handling and getting the most out of millions of years of experiences. Perhaps you find you get bored after 10,000 years and have to choose incarnate again to learn.

When I mentioned becoming the ultimate being I wasn't suggesting becoming one with an existing being. It is you becoming the being by personal growth. It isn't so hard to imagine setting up your own reality simulations with your own created players. Perhaps you decide to experience what they do. If you cannot handle the experiences of your own creations you may hit a brick wall at some point.

I like the idea of independence too, just don't close yourself to new experience.

Sometimes in a given week I can barely get a moment to myself. When I hear that someone is visiting in the weekend I want to die! I do feel guilty and or selfish for wanting alone time though. Perhaps the operative word is want, soon as that is involved we have failed arguably!? 

We are alike in many ways I think. Suppose there is an astral ER scenario that requires all hands on deck for 10,000 years. The desire for seclusion becomes a problem after a while I fear. Of course this is a contrived scenario to make a metaphorical point about state of mind.
57  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Spirituality and Sobriety on: July 19, 2017, 08:23:03
Wanna know the kicker of your goal?

You ALREADY are the "something more" you're searching for.
You ALREADY have the power to help heal this world.

Projecting doesn't give you anything that isn't already there... you just lack perspective. 
Projection doesn't give perspective.  That only comes from within.

Even though I have quoted Xanth this post is a message for anyone.

There is always something more to search for that we aren't already. Like Campbell says, if you aren't growing you are either staying the same or dying, and staying the same is step one of dying.

What I think Xanth is getting at here though is like the old money saying. If you aren't happy with a dollar you won't be happy with a million dollars. Tao practitioners focus on accepting the self in the current state, after all, that is always where you are going to be - in the current state - with some future state to look up to.

Projecting absolutely can give you something that isn't already there. It is a learning experience like any other. The point is not to get caught up with a line of thought such as "I can succeed after grandiose event X". It might never come, and if it does, what if you look back and think that the waiting was simply a waste of time and you just needed to realize that now is the time.

Easier said than done though. Reading the words doesn't make it your reality until you have an experience that makes it real for you.
58  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: When I die I want to - Fear of death topic on: July 19, 2017, 07:56:29
i will create secret rift where I keep my collectables from where I visit and to where I will also live, no one will be able to find me when I'm there but I will be able to still be in contact with the spirit world outside my home when i'm needed

Seems like I am not the only one that imagines these sorts of post-mortem activities and desires the creative power to construct grand things. Good stuff.

On the other hand you mentioned hiding from people. I understand it well as an introvert, I often want to be left alone in this reality too. It is probably not a good desire as it may be construed as an act of selfishness.

The not going into the lights thing and not wanting to re-incarnate is super common among the spiritual, I have found. They might say something like "this is my last incarnation". It is a wish more than a statement I suspect. I also suspect that saying you don't want to return here makes you likely to be forced to return until you stop wanting to leave. It could be one of the lessons required.

Think about it this way. The ultimate entity, call it god for ease of understanding, has to experience all of it. If being the ultimate entity is the direction you are heading you basically have to be ok with any experience.

59  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: How can I trust the astral to live in when things so often fade away? on: July 19, 2017, 07:42:05
You are probably correct to not trust this reality or any other beavis. Ultimately trust has to be earned to be useful or we are just talking blind faith vested in anything or anyone.

There is a chance that what you experience after physical death is such a radical change that it effectively is true death. I think it could be useful to accept that outcome in the same way an atheist might accept mortality in this life.

Don't worry, you won't make your choice with your Earthly brain / mind. Smiley

From some perspectives this could be even more worrying: "Choose carefully Neo, red pill or blue pill? But first you will drink this mind altering potion that takes the choice out of your hands".
60  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: Spirituality and Sobriety on: July 18, 2017, 22:28:53
The chemicals themselves are meaningless.
The "INTENT" (there's that word again!) behind *WHY* you take them is all that matters.

Do you just enjoy having a drink once in a while?
Do you just prefer a bit of salt on your meals?
Are you trying to escape from this reality?

It's all about INTENT.  Intent is what drives your spiritual growth.

Pretty good answer, I like it, but I'll delve deeper into the edge cases.

What if your best intentions yield a bad result?

I really enjoy playing e-sport video games. They are a cesspool of miserable people honestly, due to the dopamine mechanics. Winning, or rather, participating to your fullest in these events gives a tremendous high. The brain anticipates this high and encourages the behavior that leads to it, for the first 5 minutes of the game.

When things start looking bad (the brain realizes the hit isn't coming) you get the punishment (reduced dopamine output). At this point players lash out at their allies or any blame factor in frustration, classic addiction behavior.

I caught onto this pattern a long time ago and have tried to modify my attitude to avoid it by not being attached winning or even having a fun experience. Fundamentally though, the brain doesn't care what your intent is for this particular session. You either get the hit that your brain remembers from last time or you get the punishment.

I am left wondering what the answer is:

a) Modify your intent such that any result yields the same dopamine hit.

Not sure if that is practically achievable. Some results are always going to be better than others or we live a mono existence with no direction.

b) Accept the low as being a possible outcome and call the intent OK.

Achievable but maintains the status quo.

c) Quit any activity or behavior where your intent doesn't yield the correct results.

Not really a good rule of thumb, quitting the activity just because the result isn't always correct could lead to harm too.


At the extreme of the concept of eating salt I wonder whether any amount of intent can defeat the brain's ability to remember the reward. Simultaneously pursuing a sober existence is practically impossible in the modern day where even looking at an image of a landscape on a computer is more stimulation than a wild human's brain is prepared for.

I wonder what happens when the chemicals go away; how does addiction operate in pure consciousness beings.
61  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Spirituality and Sobriety on: July 18, 2017, 10:49:32
Is there any point to pursuing sobriety in the life experience as a human?

Some people take this concept to the extreme - denying themselves of even the most basic stimulant such as eating salt on food.

I have recently learned that pornography can measurably change brain behavior to the point that it is equal or more damaging than some drug addictions. Similarly those that suffer ADHD experience reduced dopamine sensitivity to the point of losing interest in reality.

I have had ADHD most of my life, diagnosed by a child psychologist. I look back at my life and think, what part of it hasn't been addiction?

You may disagree but after learning more about the way dopamine acts in the brain I have come to think that every human behavior is rooted in addiction. It is not possible to experience something enjoyable, regardless of whether it is positive or negative, without the brain attaching to that behavior and lamenting its absence.

For instance consider a parent's love for their child or an athlete that loves sports. On a chemical level it is the same as a drug addiction.

We tend to ignore positive addictions and gloss over the ones we aren't aware of. Consider addiction to the comfort of being warm, a luxury many early humans didn't enjoy often.

What is the point of sobriety? Is it even possible for the human mind? Is quitting eating salt wasting a lifetime of possible experiences?

Sometimes I wonder if astral projection is such a great experience that it dominates the human mind. Perhaps this is why the projection experiences I have never live up to a fraction of what I know they can be.
62  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / When I die I want to - Fear of death topic on: July 18, 2017, 09:45:27
I often find myself thinking about things I would like to do after dying.


For instance, I think of friends I enjoyed time with in the golden days of certain gaming communities. We are unlikely to have reason to come together again in this reality, but I would look forward to seeing them again in an environment with less limitations.

I feel like my entire life in this reality I have fantasized about being able to fly freely across the land. It is an experience feel is achievable through astral projection, but it hasn't happened for me yet. On one hand I'm not worried about never achieving it and add it to the mental bucket list of things to do after I die.


Then comes the rub. What is really left of our minds post death?

Enough to remember a bucket list or friends?

I suppose I fear the recycling process of consciousness destroying the things I love. Erasing the context that makes the events special. Creating a new perspective that makes experiences I value irrelevant.

Do you have a bucket list for post death? Should we feel like these things need to be done through astral projection during this life time to really be meaningful?
63  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: What have you learned about the fundamentals of the universe? on: July 15, 2017, 23:36:20
Allow me to disagree. My belief is that "Pure Unconditional Love" is an utopian concept, that would be counterproductive to souls' development. Souls don't incarnate to learn or achieve it. So far I haven't heard a convincing counterargument.

Pure Unconditional Love (PUL) sounds like the one of the most productive things I can imagine. It is near the ultimate incentive to participate at ones fullest. PUL doesn't mean becoming a vegetable in a dimension of bliss - there is still rational responsibility to act with the best intent in mind.

I will admit that it is difficult to be PUL in this reality since humans need to destroy other beings to survive at our current level. I think one of the keys of PUL is that it also applies to yourself. Isn't it reasonable to think that we could love another person and a head of broccoli equally, yet prioritize the person as having more potential to contribute to the system in the long run?
64  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: What have you learned about the fundamentals of the universe? on: July 15, 2017, 01:35:51
I believe that when souls begin incarnating as humans they have only rudimentary reasoning capability, and are dominated by emotions.

The physical plane, being a less thought responsive environment, allows souls to gradually learn to master their emotions; in the non-physical, emotions like fear quickly spiral out of control creating nightmarish situations.

As humans, souls develop their reasoning while having to solve problems, and participating in various forms of training.

It doesn't make sense to me that we would incarnate in order to "learn to love", and even less to "love unconditionally". I even feel that pursuing such a quest is counterproductive to both reasoning development, and learning to master our emotions.

I kind of agree but will suggest a different angle in addition. In less structured realities there is an "undo button" for almost any scenario and that makes it difficult to learn to make effective choices. One of the benefits of this reality is that there are consequences for your actions that cannot be taken back.

Why do you think that learning to love is counter productive to reasoning and emotional mastery though?

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While on the physical plane, inherently, souls accumulate karma that will have to be cleared. Karma is that which determines what lives we'll live, what experiences we'll go through.

I dunno about that. Karma is a commonly misunderstood concept. The word means action and it refers to how taking an action associates you with other events at a similar level. The idea of some kind of balancing force has always been misinterpretation as far as I understand.

I will admit that people might repeat lessons they fail to learn but I am not sure what that has to do with Karma.
65  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: What have you learned about the fundamentals of the universe? on: July 13, 2017, 21:48:01
Rather than learning to love - what if the purpose is more about learning to experience and pursue the quest of success?

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What's the quickest way for a group of people to succeed?  Love

Not necessarily true. The quickest way for people to succeed is to use whatever the most effective strategy is that we can muster. Is said strategy sometimes or a lot of the time, love? Perhaps, but I think it would be a mistake to assume that love is the end game and that is locked in for eternity.

The logical conclusion for me is that the point is to find the logical conclusion based on ever growing experience data. Learning to love may only be a bi-product of the actual quest.
66  Magic / Welcome to Magic! / Re: New to magic, need help please on: July 11, 2017, 06:28:43
My experience is that you will have a lot of trouble convincing a devout Christian that anything paranormal (magic, Claire-senses, astral projection, premonitions, telepathy) is not the work of the Satan. I struggle with my elder brother on this matter.

Fundamentally the book (bible) says psychic = witchcraft = Satan. For some people you will be unable to penetrate any issue that goes against what is written in the book because it is viewed as unassailable and beyond rational arguments. Those people are stuck in a belief trap, but if someone is willing to entertain new ideas and has an open mind you can try these rational arguments.

1) Only for good use - some people believe that our reality is intelligent in the sense that it can predict if psychic information is likely to result in net growth or recession for those involved. If the outcome is negative, the information is simply blocked. The powers simply aren't available for Satanic purpose. I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary - yet mediums and so forth that deliver valuable information do it with pure intent.

2) Satan is a metaphor - The word just means to be alone. You will find that almost every satanic act is about selfishness and destruction one way or another, whereas the path of god is that of unity and creation. I really don't think it is useful to imagine that there is a boogie man waiting to get you if you step out of line - that is a fear tactic used to control people - what matters is not picking the satanic path.

3) We don't really know what god wants - No one here can pretend they can even begin to start to touch the mentality of god. If you think you know, you are wrong. Don't be obsessed with the book because it will only ever be a crude translation. Many of the aspects of god described in the bible don't make sense for even a highly loving human, such as jealousy and revenge, let alone an angel or god.
67  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Quick loss of consciousness on: July 09, 2017, 21:06:56
Yes, I have found impatience, boredom and needing or wanting an outcome to all be considerable blockers. In addition to enjoying and being in the now, a mindset of detachment can be effective - especially for dealing with any fear scenario. The type of detachment I am talking about is like enduring a Sauna for as long as one can. You acknowledge the feeling of the heat and the bodily urge to leave, but you remain mentally calm and disjointed from those impulses, as if you are an observer of the discomfort only rather than the subject.
68  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: What have you learned about the fundamentals of the universe? on: July 08, 2017, 22:09:00
Is the "3D shared experience universe" infinite? The pure physical 3D plus time one we all seem to share our minds in? I have no idea - have not run into copies of myself yet. We can only see out to what 13 billion light years?.. but the universe seems to be infinite yes, due to its uniformity and other reasons. And that in itself opens up a whole can of worms. Multiple versions of yourself being a mathematical inevitability then. Add the various infinite higher densities on top of that construct as well as the various "universes" inside waking minds that do not get shared like this one and it gets mind numbing.

I don't think we would be likely to find alternate versions of ourselves, REALLY far away, within the "same" physical reality.

The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics, which most physicists back today, describes all probable locations of a given particle being encoded into the particle.

Under this interpretation there has to be alternate versions of ourselves that fit a bell curve of probable outcomes, but they are unresolved in terms of a real consciousness collapsing the wave form into an actualized event in our timeline.

We can still experience these unresolved probable outcomes as a dream. It is likely that we do this all the time - if you need a given dream scenario just pull the data out of someone's probable reality.

But what about "real" alternate versions of ourselves that are actualized and have their own separate branches of alternate probable universes? I can't imagine how we would ever prove their existence, but conceptually, to get the most bang for your buck out of simulating a reality like this you might want to make the occasional hard copy of a reality that explores a slightly alternate branch with a high probability of "spiritual success".
69  Metaphysics / Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Re: World Is A Simulation on: July 06, 2017, 21:26:28
Either or. Take your pick.
 To fully understand a Human's mind, you need to be Human as well. So, why wouldn't it work the other way around?

I guess I view extra terrestrials as cousins of humans with a comparable, but more complex and higher level, consciousness. We can understand what life might be like to a limited degree for another physical matter reality incarnated being.

A celestial being on the other hand is totally outside of our frame of reference to even imagine in my view. The reason I make the distinction is that it is odd to think that extra terrestrials are governing our minds when they may be just co-operative players in the same game we are playing.

I do agree that an extra terrestrial would possibly have trouble understanding our minds. A celestial on the other hand should have the ability to be our mind - see every detail - and have a greater understanding than we do ourselves.

It should be well and truly possible to understand a human mind or an alien mind with basic levels of psychic ability shouldn't it?
70  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: First time after a long time trying, unexpected and confused on: July 06, 2017, 20:39:38
The thing is, Im confused what that was. Was it a lucid dream or was I finally able to astral project?
There's things that put me off, cus there was not much there. No entities at all, it was dark (could be cus of emotions or fear cus i was honestly a bit scared of it). There was no vivid colors like i read it would be online (it was pretty though). I could not leave, because there was no doors. Now that I think back I didn't look at myself, like I used to do in lucid dreams. (Looking at my hands as they distort would make me go lucid) nor did I check or see a silver cord. Im fully aware that I was there but not sure 100% where or what that was.

Sounds like a wake induced lucid dream. I have had a pretty similar house experience to this from a wake induction.

It turns out that "was it astral projection" is a fairly arbitrary question because the experiences exist on a continuum and it is difficult to categorize. The category of experiences such as the house can range from an apparently mundane dream to exciting virtual reality video-game-esque adventures.

I think what we really are talking about is "was it a hyper or higher reality experience" ie: the vivid colors, silver cords and thriving dimension of blissful entities. It is the experience we come to expect from astral projection - a friend of mine had one of these types of experiences and that is what spurred me to get into doing this.

It has now been 2 years and out of maybe 300 memorable experiences there hasn't been anything comparable to the hyper reality described by Frank Kepple for instance.

Maybe the hyper reality is more subjective than we imagine, or perhaps we are banned from reaching it prior to achieving a certain level of spiritual evolution. Perhaps it is uncommon to find yourself there by accident and you need to manually raise your awareness - which also requires prerequisite skill. Sometimes I feel like I have been banned from having such an experience because it would be too amazing in contrast to my experiences here and cause some kind of mental regression.

Keep pursuing the hyper reality in my opinion. I think there is a reason this place gets stuck in the back of our minds; the information I channel says that it is important to have a concept of higher dimensions to realize your potential post-mortum.
71  Metaphysics / Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Re: World Is A Simulation on: July 05, 2017, 21:47:46
Alien mind!?

Are we talking about philosophically alien entities, something born and native to the non physical, or the spirits of extra terrestrials from other planets in ours or similar universes.

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Thaomas- I initially agree wholeheartedly with your response, with a few minor exceptions. The larger point is to be open to these wider perspectives and to consider what they are indicating. This is the stretch of perspective that we need.

We, as humans, consume multiple lifeforms for our sustenance- plants and animals. If we give even the slightest acceptance to their having some credence to life and consciousness, then what does that say about our consumption, much less our casting into the trash elements we don't want to consider further? How is that different from a greater consciousness casting back into the 'soup of consciousness' some undesireable bits of us that haven't worked out to their expectations? What makes us so special?
With respect to our consumption I suppose it means we have found ourselves in an unfortunate predicament where the only way we know how to stay alive is by destroying other life forms.

I think there are major differences between that and the greater consciousness idea. If we kill and eat a wild animal we aren't enforcing a true death upon that being and our motive is coming from a place of necessity rather than judgement or a sense of superiority.

I somehow suspect that greater consciousness isn't in a rat race predicament such as the one "they" created for us wherein they have no choice but to eat us. I don't think anything makes us special except for maybe our niavety?

What makes the greater consciousness special? Higher perspective, higher responsibility, leading by example, respecting beings and not controlling them for personal gain.

We in the spiritual community are told not to fear death and that there is no true death, however, this is probably false! If your consciousness doesn't measure up to expectations you will experience true death as your consciousness is forcibly modified. "John, today you will become Jake. It will be as if you were always Jake and all recollection of John will be gone".

Indeed, my attitude is fiery, but I don't want to give the impression that I am bitter about any of this. It is just a fun debate for me.

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Both DeMarco's book and Cannon's books stretch our perspectives into new areas of consideration. I am admittedly uncomfortable with some of this but will point out the similarity between them and therefore the consistency. How about the topics of moral relativism and the conflict of Good versus Evil? How about the necessity of man-made catastrophic events such as 9/11/2001 or pick any school shooting or terrorist attack? Consider how these insane events may serve to move Mankind forward in its evolution.

If these are relatively new considerations then I would whole-heartedly recommend The Sphere and the Hologram. It will challenge your thinking up to the next level. A complimentary work would be Dolores Cannon's 'The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth'. Personally-speaking, 'Three Waves' confirmed for me where I am in the 'mix'.

The 'logic' isn't always apparent at first. We also need to add in a mix of feeling and intuition...and give it time to percolate.

I am pretty excited by that book. I haven't managed to get a copy of it yet but the preface sounds like it is right up my alley.

Negative events definitely hold the potential to move us forward. It is kind of the fundamental rule of this reality. Bluefirephoenix says that it is better to get to the path forward in the outset rather than walking the dead end and turning back after realizing. I would be disappointed if someone would carry out an attack like 9/11 to try and make man kind evolve. Put the energy into something positive!

72  Metaphysics / Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Re: World Is A Simulation on: July 04, 2017, 21:09:26
Cannon's last Convoluted series book mentioned 'shadow players', 'background people': Human characters that just play roles and are moved from place to place, environment to environment, world to world...she even likened them to a kind of 'slave character group'.
In the middle of the Sphere and the Hologram, a section discusses human personalities that fail to develop sufficiently within a lifetime; they fail to fully 'individualize' completely...and therefore are mixed back into the 'soup' of the Higher Self, their characteristics to be re-combined in a new mixture at some future date, to try again.

A personality that fails to individualize in a lifetime seems like nonsense to me. For that to really be true you would require a fresh consciousness that comes in without any initial conditions and has a duplicated experience to another entity to every detail.

Say the experience is 99% the same - would the governor of the "soul soup" make the judgement that this entity is no longer worth having? Such a decision would only be possible for a low quality consciousness since they are establishing themselves as being superior, a flaw that guarantees non-superiority.

Shadow people seems like a waste of potential - this reality is supposed to be a sea of learning for real entities. I suppose it is conceivable that they would have something to add but why not real entities that can mutually benefit from the experience?

Our dreams tend to be populated with shadow people for the purposes of ad-hoc learning scenarios. I feel like this reality has stricter rules though; wouldn't shadow people mess with the continuity and or make this reality into a play pen for external entities that feel like throwing some drones into the mix. We have such limited access to even communication from the outside let alone matrix agents.

I am happy to be proved wrong though. How can we understand the logic behind this stuff?
73  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Becoming Lucid in Dreams - Movie Scenes Of How It Is Like on: July 04, 2017, 05:49:31
You might also enjoy the movie Mr. Nobody. The entire thing is essentially about astral projection and alternate lives.
74  Metaphysics / Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Re: World Is A Simulation on: July 03, 2017, 20:51:39
There are more similarities. There are experiments to prove the simulated nature of the universe, such as the famous double slit experiment and the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment. There are theories and proofs for the simulation hypotheses.  However, there are some ridiculous assumptions too. Once you say that the universe is simulated, there arises a need for a simulator, a computer and operators of that computer. So people imagine all sorts of things from aliens to future humans. It is perfectly possible but highly improbable. Plus there are big holes e.g. the presence of avatars, if the avatars are aliens or humans from future, they would know beyond any doubt that they are playing a game. The only possibility left is that we are just bots, dummy players, which is not anyone's experience as far as I know. Bots would mean no consciousness or subjective experiences. No amount of simulation would produce that.

I find simulation to be the most satisfactory answer to the mysteries of this material universe.

The need for a simulator isn't such a huge issue even for the average skeptic I think. If we treat dreams as our own personal simulation it sets the precedent for a reality experience computed by consciousness.

Many people believe that there are aliens or future humans participating here that are partially or fully aware of their circumstances. I suppose the idea that these governing entities are the only ones that would participate in their creation would create a hole - but if you look at the purpose of the simulation deeper it makes sense that many players would either be fresh or have their minds compartmentalized in order to have a seemingly fresh experience.

We could be bots. Some spiritualists think that very few people are soul participants in this reality and that other entities are just "matrix bots". I think the concept is a bit egotistical and doesn't make a lot of sense from a practical outcomes standpoint. Never the less it is really difficult to prove that we have free will. The best we can do is to imply it should exist logically. Ultimately ones entire life experience can be scripted bot adventure and we would have no way of proving otherwise that I can tell.
75  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Im a bit stuck on: July 01, 2017, 01:07:36
Am I focusing too hard? Am I getting too excited when I feel the vibrations? I know that when you try to force yourself to astral project that it's usually unsuccessful, and I'm not sure that's my problem. I know this is probably insanely long, but since I have yet to have a full OBE, I'm hoping to get some advice from an experienced traveller.

What you describe reminds me a lot of my early experiences. I wouldn't say the mystery is solved yet but here is what I have come to believe.

Most of my early attempts were too engaged in carrying out a step by step process and in needing a successful outcome. This is further complicated by hidden fears that haven't been confronted at the conscious level before and anticipation of fear in the forthcoming experience.

I suffer from conditions of anxiety disorder and compulsive obsessive. This made it difficult to simply be and let the process unfold without a worry in the world.

Consider your own mind set and what it would take to be unflinchingly calm and stable with no attachment to any outcome in particular.
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