I indeed do seek absolute proof of the after-life. It would motivate me more to become -happy- again, struggling with my depression seems much easier then. I don't see the point of struggling through life if I can just kill myself right now and just stop existing. Although I'm not going to do that, but it's just a way of saying, I'm sick and tired of being unhappy.

I'm trying to just "be" right now, at the moment I'm relatively fine, not too unhappy (like suicidethoughts as described above (which are pretty useless as I would not do it anyway)). I just want personal proof of something beyond this physical life.

Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated!
I'm going to take a break from studying right now and start meditating some more.. it does help to recharge me a bit.

I just wish I found proof asap, it would help me so much. Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks!

The thing is I have been having lots of up and downs between the breakup and now.
The therapy also didn't work because my mind is just too analytical. I was very upset with the fact I couldn't be helped by her as I was really trying to believe in Guides, reincarnation, The Creator.. it gave some more meaning to my life, but thanks to this failure I got a bit trapped in the thinking of "life is totally useless, I don't even care to not exist anymore".

I'm not a loner, I have friends and do enjoy life to some degree when I'm with them. But it's not enough.. maybe that sounds a bit rude, but that's what I think and it's a serious problem for me.

At the moment I feel not too depressed, I tried to meditate a bit after I woke up. I'm still trying to connect with my guides, maybe if I keep meditating and at the same time visualising my analytical mind flowing out of my feet.. I will be able to get faith back? I like the way you compare the mind to muscles, I hope that's going to work for me too.

I'm also trying to study for my exams and/or possible future profession as a social worker (which does seem like a bit useful to me), so I'm with my feet on the ground at the moment. Although I'm quite sure my motivation is going to fade away like it does almost every day..

OBE? No offense but it just sounds like a funny lucid dream to me.. was your cousin 'dreaming' this too? Then it's indeed a strange experience

I'm posting here because I think this section is the ideal place for people who are in pain and lost hope on getting better. I'm one of those people...

I don't know why, but I am and have always been very interested in all of the 'paranormal' stuff. I never was very religious however.. until I had this (almost) OBE a month after me and my ex broke up. I was very depressed, then this happened and I thought I was getting some sign or something that there's more than -this- life.

This breakup however took place 8 months ago & you know what? I'm still depressed, even slightly more (except for the abnormally high heart beating) because I haven't been able to get faith back. I think if this is all there is right here, than life is absolutely terrible. People starving to death, animals being PRODUCED for afterwards: slaughtering and ending up in freaking stores!! War all the time.. innocent lives being taken. It's all too depressing for me to live my life in happiness like when I was with my ex (although in ignorance, because I took everyting for granted).

I have been going to a conversational/hypnotherapist. She really believes in all of the things I once believed in.. Why did I lose faith? My last session (first regression) didn't work out. She was like putting me in deep relaxation, than she said I should visualise a lot of sceneries and stuff.. & when it came to the point where I should have asked questions to my 'guides' (you know what I'm talking about) I just was not able to get answers because I didn't/don't believe I could/can contact them. I was like thinking "hm.. what could be the best thing for them to answer me, think very hard!".

Can someone help me get faith back? If I would get like just one unexplainable but clear sign, I'm sure I can get out of my miserable situation. Help is very much appreciated, thanks..

So you can guarantee everyone can achieve psychic abilities? That would be awesome, though I think it would be of a greater importance for humanity if it would be released to everyone for free.

Where did you gather all of the information btw? You can't just invent some techniques.. well I guess you can & no doubt it will be successfull for some people, but it should work for everyone.

Anyway, good luck

Since the breakup with my exgf (my first, 2.5y relationship) I've been pretty depressed and wanted to have something to believe back in (I was atheist for years).

Two months later I got this almost OBE, whitout even reading about it! I got the vibrations and found myself in a dark tunnel which was kind of exciting and frightening at the same time, but I didn't want to reach the end of the tunnel out of fear and woke up.

Since that night I have been searching for more information on the subject. I feel less depressed and even though I'm not sure I've got an OBE yet I did experience the vibrations quite a few times & that's enough proof for me that this 'reality' is not the only one & there must be life after death. Thus there's a God.

I can't really explain it that well. But it certainly gave me some wider view on everything. Knowing this life isn't going to be my last & I will be happy someday in the future again.

Sorry, I missformulated:

My brain can't write a song on its own and play it crisp clear in a dream. Well that's what I think because I never have experienced it..

I really hope it can't If so, my OBEcounter jumps from 0 to 1, yiha!

Hm, that's what I thought too 'nothing is impossible'. However I was convinced one should 'get out' in the room they're sleeping in.. However it really felt like nothing like I've experienced before in a dream.

Especially the music that was playing, I NEVER hear music in a dream. I even think it's impossible because the brain can't write a song on its own and play it crisp clear in a dream.

Thanks

Okay,

Isn't it just possible to see yourself get out of body in another room than the one you are physically lying or is it just not possible?

btw I heard some music playing while I was 'out'

Thanks!

Okay, this night I had a (nonlucid)dream, don't know really about what it was anymore.. but suddenly (without wanting to AP) the vibrations hit me very strongly! I became lucid and thought WTH I didn't even had a lucid dream!?..

So I tried to relax and get the vibrations reach their peak to exit.. and well I did actually exit! I could feel myself floating in a 90° angle upwards...

I slowly 'floated' some metres away of my body, thinking "hm this is still kind of blurry and dark" and then there was some more light.. and I kept moving very slowly, totally amazed, but than..

.. I realized this was not my bedroom and everthing faded and I woke in my real bed! It was the couch downstairs where I got an OBE off. the exact same couch I was laying in yesterday night wanting to fall asleep after a party to celebrate the end of the exams (very wasted/depressed.. exgf related.. was asking for God's help and asking "why me?"  I wasn't even a believer in God anymore till I found out about this website.. I hate alcohol)

Hm, so I guess it was all fake, the vibrations were very real, though maybe I failed exiting and then I got into a lucid dream maybe?

What do you think?

well if you don't concentrate on AP if you have the vibrations, they will have no effect (I read) and why shouldn't it be possible to have an OBE without getting the vibrations? I think it's perfectly normal.

yeah, I also experienced the vibrations, mild ones and strong ones:
mild ones from meditation
strong ones from sleep, when you have a lucid dream and decide to try AP, just like Vilkate says, your whole body gets vibrations in one shot! Really cool.

LOL, I'm just trying to find an excuse for lack of better spiritual experiences

I have some sparetime, but I try to spend it with friends.. Before falling asleep I try the more spiritual stuff..

Good luck with your exams I have 3 more to go (last year of secondary school, hehe hopefully!)

It's still quite impressive you've got 2 (or 3) OBE's from just of practice.

I have got none from a week of practice, though some were close.. vibrations..

But I don't really have that much time to get deeper into this, school = exams = frustrating

Afterwards I'll put some more time in this.
Keep up the good work

Cool, so you can project easily now? Or is exiting harder than one might think..

Nice! I wish I was in your position concerning OBE's..

I just tried Boxed Nirvana and it around minute 25 or something I got these tiny vibrations in my right leg. I concentrated on making them bigger and it actually worked. I was just looking straight to the ceiling and thinking 'mind awake, body asleep constantly' (in English, however my mother tongue is Dutch) I also experienced an increased heartbeat and felt it like in my chest/stomach! That was not so fun because it didn't allow me to AP I think..

What did you do to make it stop? I get really excited when the vibrations hit me & I think it's the thought of 'this is so weird!' that it leads to these increased heartbeats. Hmm, any suggestions?

Thanks!