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1  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Dreams of future events on: October 18, 2012, 01:55:02
She's no longer employed. Believe me I tried to ask her that night what she meant. Everytime I asked her a question she would only repeat the question over and over again. It was the strangest thing.
2  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Dreams of future events on: October 17, 2012, 18:02:17
Yea but the dream left out the crazy part lol.
3  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Dreams of future events on: October 17, 2012, 15:03:23
Hello again guys. I have been working a lot the past two years and haven't had anytime at all to try to get 'out'. If it it starts the happen I go with it but not using my old methods. Anyhow I wanted to talk about some things that are going on with my dreams lately. I have not had dreams come true or even a part of one. On the other hand things I have seen in projections were verified so many times, which makes what has been going on weird. So in my dream there was this woman. I couldn't see her face but she was tall and thin. For some reason she knew a bit about me, that I was married and have a daughter. For some reason she thought I was trying to come onto her and she yelled saying "you are married" I laughed and said "what?", curious as to what the heck she was going on about. Then she said "how would your daughter feel". I asked her what she meant and she said again "how would your daughter feel?". I said I don't see what she meant and she said "when your wife leaves you how do you think your daughter will feel?".

It bothered me and I thought how messed up that dream felt. It felt real weird, out of the norm from my usual dreams, but definitely not a projection. So a few days later Im at work and a friend and I were sitting together and a women sat down next to us. He was talking to her and she was going on about college which I though was weird considering she was in her late forties early fifties. So I asked what degree she was in for. The. She turned to me and asked "how would your daughter feel" I freaked out and said "what are you talking about?" and she sighed and said "how would your daughter feel?". My friend looked at her and asked her why she would bring up someone's kid and it wasn't cool to do so. She laughed and said "oh he knows why". It was the strangest thing. She's no longer working there two days later she was let go because our employers came to the conclusion the woman was nuts. But that doesn't explain what happened, she wasn't right in the head but this was no mere coincidence she acted as if she knew something only her and I knew. Like I should know what she was talking about and like I should recognize those exact words which I did. But she became increasingly agitated everytime I pretended those words meant nothing to me.
4  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Schizophrenia? on: September 26, 2011, 14:30:08
Well to me schizophrenia is an interesting subject. Some people who are diagnosed often have what they kind of describe as incredible insights or a huge epiphany. Often times they will have these insights but be at a loss to explain them in normal terms, and find them very hard to describe. They also seem very fleeting to them and sometimes they talk about losing grasp of truths they just learned..etc. Much like a dream many of us has had where we understood certain truths about our purpose in this life, perhaps the meaning of it all... why we are here, why certain things in life happen in cycles...etc. But upon waking up and trying to describe it to people later we can't find the words to describe it and everything we just learned in that dream is so fleeting we forget it rather quickly. I've spoken to a few, watched interviews of some of them as well. They also describe beliefs (delusions) manifesting hallucinations (partial or full blown). All of these things that are described, even by Gabe shows that schizophrenia is basically a disease (if you want to call it that) that is really nothing more than an inability for the physical brain to get out of a dream state.

It seems these people are partially or sometimes fully (depending of severity) locked into a dream state at the very same time they are physically awake. Most people who suffer from it mention that delusions lead to hallucinations not the other way around and this is just one more thing in my view that has always lead me to the same conclusion as well. Delusions/beliefs lead to hallucinations in dreams as well. If you feel fear, or a sense of foreboding then something will most definite manifest in your dream that have something to do with those uneasy feelings. Sorry for the ranting but anyway like I said its a subject that has interested me for a long time. I remember the first time I heard about it and studies of it, so I picked up a few books on the subject and from there was very intrigued. After all the things I went through, including listening to people with it has left me with the conclusion I have shared here. If you agree or disagree feel free to talk to me about it here.
5  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Your view of the astral world. on: September 26, 2011, 14:10:12
Umm yeah I have had experiences of going through a tunnel at a fast pace. However I didn't have 'tunnel vision' I could see as I normally do complete with peripheral vision... so when I talk about this kind of thing I mean normal vision but going through a literal tunnel. Hope this helps.
6  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Your view of the astral world. on: September 25, 2011, 05:13:54
I think the 360 degree viewpoint was an idea first posited by an author speaking of the 'view' from the Atmic realm which is wayyy beyond the Astral. It was given as a metaphorical representation of "perception" and not meant to be taken literally as a physical allegory.

The astral is more like tunnel vision in comparison to the Atmic perception.

From what I read on most of these AP forums it is clear that most APers are getting 45 degree vision at best.



Let's not just go by what people say and instead experience it for yourself. I experienced it myself before I ever read anything online about it. I had no idea others were experiencing this as well. It happened a number of times and I just found it too disorientating. As long as I actively think about it not happening it doesn't. It's really really hard to explain and I can not even come up with a kind of comparison to explain what it is like. The only thing I can tell you about it is it was near impossible (the first time) to tell which way is up or down, left or right. I also felt small as well, more like I was a speck of light, or dust particle..etc like I said hard to explain. I also felt it less comfortable than just feeling like I do now, obviously. It's indeed interesting to experiment with it from time to time but probably something you wouldn't want to do regularly. When I project I want to take as much time as I can to accomplish whatever goal I set, when this kind of thing happens you waste a lot of valuable time just trying to navigate around and orientate yourself.
7  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Past, Future Soul travel through OBEs on: September 25, 2011, 02:22:23
I love the subject of past and future. There are a lot of beliefs people tend to gravitate towards. Some would say well visiting the future is not possible as the future hasn't actually happened yet. From my experience with the latter belief, I have to say it's a narrow minded way to look at it. I have most definitely had experiences that took place in this plane of existence, and the places, objects and other things I witnessed in that experience has not happened yet but are starting to in that certain types of vehicles and certain devices were a year or so later in the works as ideas of interest in some research departments. Visiting the future is possible, in my point of view, because the future (as well as the past obviously) have actually already happened. It is my belief through experiences that tells me that this plane of existence we call physical life is in a kind of infinite time loop. Where there really is not a true beginning and no true end. It starts precisely where it ends in a non stop fashion and there would be no distinguishable way to point to one event and say this is the beginning. I guess the way I look at it you could compare it to a Chet Zar art animation (like the ones he produced for the band tool for their concert backdrops). One event leads to the next until you are back to where you started.

     On the subject of the visiting the past, your past to be precise, once again completely possible. When I did it not only did I see myself in the past in a very objective manner, but I was able to leave that area and follow friends that going somewhere else. When I seen what my previous I and friends were talking about I not only remembered that conversation, but I remember the month and year it took place. When my friends said they had plans to go elsewhere I was curious thinking "hey where did they go that day when they killed our plans"... so I followed them. I remembered I had a feeling they weren't being honest with me back then and when I followed them I realized I was right. These friends I haven't spoken too in almost ten years (at that time I had this experience). Well mid last year I went to my hometown and got into contact with one of them. We talked about the past and all that so then I asked A.M. if it was true that on that particular time if he went camping with the people I saw him meet up with. Not to get into specifics he kind of looked at me weird and thought kind of long and hard about what he was going to say, he finally admitted yes and apologized about what took place. He then pestered me for about an hour on how I found out, and then said that he couldnt believe someone had told me knowing that it might cause me to hurt him. He also asked if I knew about it all this time why hadn't I brought it up before like ten years ago haha. Thinking I recently found out did not even cross his mind as he knew just as I did with him, I lost contact with everyone else for a much longer time than him and his brother. Anyway I kind of ranted a little bit but it is completely possible and you can do it objectively. Very interesting subject and it's cool others are just as interested in it.
8  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: M Band noise on: September 24, 2011, 23:39:52
I guess I never noticed because by the time I hear buzzing I'd force myself out or be swept out so quick that I never spent much time in that in between state. I guess this one day I happened to stay in it a bit longer than usual and then I started picking things out of it. Thanks for your reply, appreciate it.
9  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: M Band noise on: September 24, 2011, 10:40:03
I heard a lot of other things, good things... conversations and thoughts but also mundane.. wondering if and when something will come about, worrying thoughts..etc. I pointed the anguish and turmoil out because this is what caused me to sit up and snap out of it. I can deal with mundane,good, boring but the kinds of screams youd expect during a murder, or mass killing (at least what it sounded like to me immediately) yeah only really detached persons or emotionally void persons could sit through and listen to what I was hearing. Ive had the same thing happen again with a good mix of everything, just to see if that is in fact what is making up the buzzing noises, and Im certain that is what its all about. Like as we slide into it we can go too fast to even hear the buzzing or feel vibrations (although having vibrations is still a solid thing for me even after almost 8 years of doing this or however long its been now). If we take it slow and hear it one can intentionally or unintentionally decipher it or kind of pick apart slices of this noise. It's almost as if it's a 'layer' or the nonphysical we first pass through on the way to entry to the nonphysical. Which makes sense to me, our thoughts being broadcasted nonstop all day everyday, billions of people... it's a lot of 'static' and its the most prominent nonphysical thing we deal with daily all day every day and as close as we can come while physically active to engage in shaping the nonphysical. Perhaps you know what I mean, or maybe you don't. To me it's a logical conclusion, at least to me it is after experiencing this noise band or whatever you'd like to call it a couple of times. Can't believe it hasn't happen before after all these years having obes. Well anyway you learn something new everyday.
10  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / M Band noise on: September 10, 2011, 10:36:05
It's been a while since I last posted here. If anyone is wondering, yes I continued to go about obes. Anyway normally right before I exit I get the vibrations, and I hear a pulsating buzz or screeching sound. This last time I got the vibrations and the buzzing sound, then as the waves of vibrations rush over me and get more intense my senses sunk into the droning buzzing noise and it seemed my brain/mind or whatever started to decipher it. It appeared to me that this intense buzzing sound is not really one singular sound at all but a mix of thoughts/spoken language and everything in between. As I started to hear the parts making up the buzz I heard such turmoil and anguish I had to snap myself out of it and sit up it was really disturbing to hear. I heard women, men, children screaming, crying, yelling and even calling out for help. It was truly disturbing, I heard other things but these thing really stuck out. It was funny because up to this point I had experienced almost everything I read from Robert Monroe, before and after reading his books...everything but what he called the M-Band Noise until now. It was intense, and I thought I'd share it. There is a ton of pain and anguish in the world, and sometimes it's easy to forget that or take that for granted.
11  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Vibrations? A theory... on: March 02, 2011, 00:20:51
I don't agree with the op suggestion it's just an expectation that creates it. I didn't get into projection like a lot of people, hearing about it and reading books about it. I was practicing meditation for a few weeks before I started making some break throughs with it. Eventually I started 'ending up at other places' after these feelings of buzzing/vibration in upper body and head. After of few of these experiences where I ended up in other locations... it was only then I started to search what this was and books about it. Which is when I first read the first book by Robert Monroe that not only listed all the pre-projection symptons I experienced but also experiences that were just like mine. It's more than just a byproduct of expectation (at least in my case).
12  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Just an idea on a way to help induce the vibrations.... on: February 09, 2011, 20:00:31
I am sure there are ways to trick your mind into the vibrational state. I experience them regularly and have before I even knew what projections were. Often times if I sit still and think about the buzzing/vibration that I experience strongly in the head and neck region I will end up hitting vibrations while physically sitting up... sometimes even walking around. So I don't think it's too far fetched to use a physical means to trick your brain and or mind into the vibrational state. But as someone else said that shouldn't be the only goal in mind either.
13  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Depersonalization/Derealization on: October 02, 2010, 12:05:39
Slightly off topic but everything you just said reminds me of a movie called "Numb". Also never happened to me (I did so from 5th grade up until I got out of college) or anyone I know. I wouldn't blame it on the pot though, there was probably some kind of condition right underneath the surface and it just brought it up to the surface.
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Are AP worlds *real*? on: September 28, 2010, 05:06:42
Would you care to expound on that with some more examples?

ok for example if I am in a lucid dream for example and I'm in a city or wherever I focus on exiting the dream first thing I notice is that the dream will fade out. For a short time everything will be all black like a void, and I'll immediately become aware of the vibrations and normally I'll start seeing from my physical body's perspective like if I laid down on my back I'll be looking at the ceiling as if seeing through my eyelids. From there I exit, other times everything will go like that except I'm already out usually in the same  room.

I notice sometimes people talk about going obe from lucid dreams but it seems they never really exited the lucid dream state, they are trapped inside the dream thinking they are seeing their true surroundings but really aren't. It does happen and when I first started that method from lucid dreams it happened to me a lot. Sure the conscious mind is the same for the most part but there are differences and that was what I was trying to articulate they are not the same exact thing. In one you experience a self creAted reality ( subconsciously or otherwise) in the other you experience realities separate from
 yourself. When obe'ing it is possible to have objective experiences with practice.
15  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Lucidology on vibrations on: September 26, 2010, 10:22:55
I really don't agree with a lot of things that lucidology guy says, or the idea that in time vibrations stop altogether. Everyone's experiences are different when it comes to exiting and obe'ing in general. I've had vibrations since the very beginning of my first obes and even before I was able to project... 7 years later (since I've first experienced vibrations) I still have the vibrations. Not only that but I exit during them when they are at their strongest, and the exits are fairly automatic even when I don't try for the exit. I agree if you try to exit when they first kick in, it would be a waste of time. But when they are nearing their peak of strength, I can easily slip out. I really haven't came to a conclusion on them but I feel that there are two ideas that appeal to me, the first one is that they could be a form of friction you experience as your mind is letting it's attachment/link to your body go, or they are a sort of energetic resonance that the world and everything in it is generating and you happen to experience it as your mind starts it's traverse into the non-physical.
16  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Are AP worlds *real*? on: September 26, 2010, 10:11:48
Really? 

I see the only separation between the two experiences as being an illusion created by your own conscious awareness.
People get confused thinking that all these experiences are separate, when the only thing that changes between them all is that conscious awareness and nothing more.   THAT is a pretty strong illusion that you have to get past first.  Smiley

Uh there are huge differences. I used to think that a long time ago (lucid dreams and obes are synonymous)... that is until I had full blown obes.  I've had lucid dreams as a child quite often. So when I heard people talk about astral projection, my first thought was that they just experienced a lucid dream. At times when I attempt a obe I will pass out but later end up in a dream, realize it is a dream and try to end it. When I successfully end a lucid dream I find that I am not really where it appeared to be in the dream but in my bed or close to the general vicinity of the physical body. If these two experiences were identical that would not be the case. When I had my first legit obe, it was entirely different and I knew instantly it was not a lucid dream. As far as the argument about what is real, or not that is just something you have to figure out on your own. After time, and effort esp. if you are going about validations you will find the answer.
17  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Are AP worlds *real*? on: September 25, 2010, 10:11:14
No offense to the original poster but a lucid dream is different than a full blown out of body experience. I'm just putting that out there because it seems in the original post the op seems to make little distinction between the two. Also yes what you do experience is real... but to me that word is useless when you think about it. Thoughts are real because you experience them, emotions are real, the physical world is real... anything you experience first hand is real. The main difference is, whether the thing or place you experienced was created by you or not. I've been to a good amount of places and there was and is no doubt in my mind that those places were completely real. I've had self created experiences before, but even though I may have created a temporary place (purposefully and accidentally) it does not mean they were not real. Once you gain more experiences with full blown out of body experiences perhaps you might come to the same conclusion.
18  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: How I got out!!! Finally on: June 15, 2010, 10:42:38
I agree with Pr. I had so many people say that to me in the past few years when talking about the vibrations. Which feels like being electrocuted without the pain. I would just tell them I've read about it, but it doesn't quite fit what I am talking about. Perhaps in a way it refers to the same kind of thing. I read a few books about it, and it just reminds me of my pre obe symptoms... nothing more. Just the lead up to the real fun.
19  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Is something seriously wrong?? on: June 14, 2010, 10:39:45
Also I might add that when I have these irregular heart beats that are supposedly caused by anxiety, I am not anxious or worried at all consciously. If anything it has to be subconscious because I'm a pretty laid back person and do not worry about anything. I always just go with the flow. However these things have happened persistently since the boot camp in 1998, and when it happened whether it was conscious or subconscious anxiety I had plenty of reason to be stressed out. It's just like something snapped and caused my heart to do that, but once it happened it became like a set pattern that can't be undone. So now anytime I get this subconscious anxiety of whatever it may be from it just sets that trigger off in my heart. So if I were you I would figure it out before it becomes some kind of set pattern that you will have to learn to live with.
20  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Is something seriously wrong?? on: June 14, 2010, 10:29:12
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The last 6 or so attempts that I've had, something frighteningly wrong is happening. I'll reach the deep level of trance, loosing almost all sensations of my body, feeling as tho I'm hovering just inches off the floor. Right when i enter the vibration state i begin an exit technique. Then, suddenly, I feel as tho heartbeat just takes off. Now i know the heart Chakra can mimic this sound, so i try very hard to ignore it. But then it just gets painfully strong, and i find it hard to breath. It ends up breaking away my concentration and i sit up. BUT, when i sit up, i put my hand on my chest, And its my actual heart, beating that erratically. Its actually like a painful misfire, that causes my heart and entire chest to just Freak out!!......I thought it was fear, And i went past that. Now, i just don't understand what it could be. Am i entering the vibration state while my body is still away, and I'm " physically " experiencing them?....thus freaking out my body?.....I just don't understand why it keeps happening?

It could be as little as subconscious anxiety causing it. For instance I went to a boot camp in Uvalde, Texas over the course of a summer. It was as mentally draining as physically. One day out of the blue my heart just started beating irregularly sometimes to the point where my heart would stop altogether and I would feel this immense pressure start to build then I would start to black out. Then as I hit the brink of falling to the ground it would let out one huge contraction that was very concerning as was painful. Anyway ever since one a day sometimes multiple times a day my heart will beat irregularly ever since. I've seen a lot of doctors about this because it is a little concerning to me. Anyway a few years later a doctor decided to have me wear a portable heart monitor and sure enough they could see the irregular heart beats. They did a ton of tests, and eventually had a echo stress test and decided it was anxiety related. Even with my irregular heartbeats I never had a problem like this arise while out of the body. Just something to think about.
21  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Friday June 11 9:30 AM on: June 14, 2010, 06:11:31
Has anyone else been to a place like the one I described above?
22  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: How I got out!!! Finally on: June 14, 2010, 06:03:32
Vibrations, and sometimes intense motion same things that happen right before I exit my body. So congrats on that.
23  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Members Pictures on: June 14, 2010, 04:36:55
Im not a very fun person  cool
24  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Members Pictures on: June 14, 2010, 02:07:11
No I was attending to my daughter at the pool she was trying to drag me somewhere and my wife took a picture
25  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Members Pictures on: June 13, 2010, 09:55:26


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