Klaxen_2008,

I am more happy to help you with your request on the validity of the OBE and Physical planes. I am not sure
where you are in your progress. But when you start off on this to obtain the results you desire, there's ALOT
of work, patience, energy involved. Reading other people's experiences, tests, validations, is a great place to start, but if you really want bullet proof - go out and do the work!

I'll offer my .2 on your questions. Yes, I have had at different times been visted by Angels, Guides, assisting me into the higher spiritual planes. There were messages of what I needed to work on in the physical, along with guidence.

How do I know that this was not imagination. I have been out thousands of times, seen the different charistics in thought forms, true souls that have passed, entities, and spiritual beings - mostly how the interact, intent, judgement and conscious awareness.

I invite you to research the data on my web site so it can help you along with better understand.

Thank You,

Tvos

anything in life requires time, patience, disciplen, and education. there's no fast food lines or short-cuts to projection... unless one decided to use those poisonous herbs...

tvos

only way you will be able to successfully project is the following:

1. Intent, Hard Work, Focus, Patience, Commitment, Education

there are no magic pills!

tvos

Don,

I like the idea about group meeting in second life and communication and I highly recommend people exploring SL. However, I think you will find drawbacks of restrictions like hardware and software capability, bugs, meeting times, and connection speed. I know when I messed with SL it was real buggy, slow, and the specs were high end requirements. Not that I don't have the latest technology but others might not.

So you have to ask the question "what is the real objective - video game play, or learn how to project?.

tvos

Second life is cool and very addictive...

Don't want to be the dour one of the group, but comparing OBEing to second life simulation there isn't any. It's a great way to communicate, setup land, house, new method of group meetings. A lot of good can come from it. But the whole premise of it is getting on with the true source of projecting!


tvos

thats the point.

CNN released that yesterday which I stumbled across. Good deal on posting it earlier.

It's a interesting video - hard to say what it is.

tvos

Ap Friends,

This is a interesting clip taken from a gas station capturing a ghost.

You be the judge!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/11/14/lai.gas.ghost.woio?DPFPR=true

tvos

gwciv,

Np.. glade to see someone taking my advice..

Its a lot of hard work and energy... even when your tired, lost, drained of everything - there's that miracle of energy that gives  you that gift to project...

keep up with the good work and you will go far!

tvos

what about just meeting up in the astral.. wouldn't that be easier..

#1 I choose because of interaction and a lot can be achieved.

tvos

Don,

I recently purchased the Sony 60gb hard drive video recorder/camera. I plan to do a little more in the future with it for my site. I have had the opportunity to record three videos of me during the OBE.

HD video recording is the best way to go - less problems with tapes.

Good job on the videos. I watched a few!

tvos

Science and the medical community will try to claim the grand prize based on theory, study, research..

Its great that science is exploring these types of virtual environments, testing, and trying to reproduce the effects of an OBE/NDE.

What I don't see is that the scientists calling up people that can project regular, had the NDE and compare - contrast to this testing. It's a narrow one side track minded test which doesn't complete the circle or rigors of true test.

As I said it before, the data is out there and its static consistencies, OBErs/ NDE'rs have rite of passage because of the experience. Science should mix the two and maybe then the world will see.

tvos

Sthomo, 

I have been projecting since 1987, consistently and able to do this on a weekly
basis's w/o fail. It can be done and takes a lot of energy, focus, concentration,
passion and intent.

Anyways, I have tracked seriously for the last three years of when, where, how, exercise,food,
three different methods I use to project, and arrived at one conclusion. It's a lot of work and paints a the picture of progress and how to tune into this vs. having random experiences.

Feel free to check out my site and view the statistical data. Now, at least you know what I had to each the night before..

tvos

Don,

Been to second life, its a awesome way to interact with people, but it's a global chat room for singles and dating.

I checked out SL for a few weeks, it was fun to a specific degree but left a mark of a glorified bar dating scene. Its great for people who are single don't get me wrong, but to be serious about this, create a chat room off your board for people to communicate and have scheduled time.

Better yet, why don't you have a conference call in # and schedule date/time to call in.

Not too many people will have the specs, software or the hardware to handle SL. Make it easy and straight forward vs. getting wrapped up into the technology.

Don't want to be the dour person here, but remember focus only one the basic's...

Tvos

Don,

I have another friend in mind who is adept at projecting that I will bring on board with
your project.

Send me a prv email at my address so we can discuss this further.

Thank You for the invite,

Tvos

Don,

Good to see you back and still with OBEs.

Checked out a few videos with Bruce, good job!

Maybe I will make a guest appearance with your group during a OBE
visit..

All the best and success!

Tvos