Please review my Sticky Thread I created on "Why I can't Project"...

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/why_cant_i_project_invisiblelight_book_reference_for_beginner_to_advance-t28924.0.html

Good Luck,

DW

Wow,


You might find this helpful:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/why_cant_i_project_invisiblelight_book_reference_for_beginner_to_advance-t28924.0.html

Remember, projecting out of body takes time, patience, practice and it is never ending. You were like me in the beginning even thou I took me three months to experience my first. I was started to feel skeptical and once I let go and didn't expect the experience, it happened. When it did - it was a HUGE wake up call and trust me - It is For Real!

Good Luck,

DW

maybe it wasn't a earthquake or vibrations.. maybe it was your significant other "Shook you All Night Long" and you thought you were having a OBE...: )

its the vibrations friend... setup a video camera every night and record your physical body when you have the experience. nothing will happen except you'll see the physical body sleeping, but on the other (inner side) you'll feel vibrations.

dw

schulzy175,

The best time depends on a few factors. I did and still persist on documenting in a tracking database using excel as my template. For three years, when I was documenting my times that my OBEs occurred Sun-Sat, what I ate, how much sleep the day before, leading up to the experience. It is all valuable information. Many people who start out projecting go about this at random, aimlessly and wondering if and when the next experience will occur. Well, if you do what I did, document times, dates, stats you will paint a clear picture of when those best days, times are.

Please read topic: Why I can't project

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You will see what I am talking about that will help you along the way.

Good Luck,

DW

many people have difficulty just accessing the trance state.. so in all, just getting there is a HUGE step.... that is a goal in itself - even if it is premature and not completing the whole exit of the projection, never the less it's progress..

remember, slow steps...... its all about training and preparing...

DW

Orion,

It is about relaxing and observing the trance state. Sure it's exciting and you want to get out. Many people who start to project find a difficult time with being passive then lose the moment due to excitement. Just remember, you will always have many attempts at projecting every night when you goto bed. So don't think that this is the one for the world's record to go in the books. It takes time, patience and most of all goal setting.

DW

Back in the earlier days (like 20 years ago) when I started projecting, I had a difficult time getting over the "Freddy Kruger" element and projecting. It was difficult and scary at times, but when I did confront my fear head on, I was able to over-come.

A lot of what we think, feel, and fear easily materializes in the astral worlds - which we run in circles chasing our tails and never advance beyond that. It limits us from moving forward - I know for me personally, I had to take small steps in what I was learning in the beginning being cautious. But as I kept slowly moving forward, inch by inch  I realized all the dramatization was brought on by my mind and external physical influences I thought would happen, but never did on the other side.

When projecting - it is a whole new world to get use too. Take your time learning the environment, surroundings, and interactions with others. Play it safe in a environment you are comfortable with vs. trying to go out guns blazing.

To give you insight to some of the horrific experiences I have had a long the way:

Pinned between two cars being burned to death with fire
Being shot by a gang attack
Knifed in the shoulder and man/woman holding me down
Stick Figured Picker Bush Entity clinging to me and feeling its thorns slice into my skin
Flying out in space at the speed of thought - can't finding my way back home. It was very scary.
Waking from a trance, starring out the window realizing I am out of body and being thrusted into
hardcore vibrations and intense pain

But even after those experiences happened, I am still here writing about it. They do happen and yes
it is scary. But in retrospect to all the successful and beautiful experiences. They are completely outnumber
the bad. Sure those experiences are a mental scar but I have always returned back to the body. If I gave up
because of a bad experience, I would have missed experiences of beauty.

Before you do project - focus on positive before, during, and after the experience. Remember, you will always return no matter what sticky situation you are in. Don't allow yourself to get sucked down into negative entities, bad OBE experiences...

DW

anything is possible, but I am not 100% sure about eating lunch at the same time while projecting.. maybe
having a latte at star bucks and projecting will do the trick..: )

honestly, it takes a lot of relaxation, mental control and focus to project. the physical body at the same time
eating while projecting I would need to research and be skeptical. Unless, Bruce was extremely tired and he drifted
into the trance, that I can see. But just to say "I am going to have a full course meal and project at the same time.." I can't see that happening.

I know on occasion when I am watching a movie, listening to audio book/music or back in the day in classroom - I was able to project. The moment, tranquility, relaxed atmosphere was conducive for projecting.

DW

Lizelle,

Thanks for explaining it better.

I agree with the voices, weird sensations - it can be scary and even still after so many years doing this. It does catch me off guard at times. I think for the most part is just remaining calm, try to relax and understand that this is part of the package deal when moving between the physical into the astral body. Easy as said than done, but it is the truth - have to take a little weird feelings at first to get to paradise.

DW

Lizelle,

Next time, just set up a video camera in your room while you experience the SP, OBE sensations. You will see that there is no scary monster, aura weird looking entities. I do agree it is scary in the beginning but once you get past those imaginary voices that trick you - its all yours.

Drugs + OBEs = lack of experiences. I have done both in the past and only conclusion I can draw is that you need to be at all mental facilities to control the OBE and have a better experience. This is just not with one drug, but every drug that is out there from alcohol to tylnol pm, or mushrooms. To be really on the ball when it comes to projecting, it takes a lot of mental discipline.

So my advice - give me all your mushrooms and start focusing on projecting clean..: )

DW

Everything is a goal and a small step towards projecting. If it's getting to the vibrational state, it is a start in the right direction. If that is all you reached, pat yourself on the back for a job well done *just reaching that level*.

From many years of experience, everytime that I project there is always a cause and reason, a goal that I set to accomplish. It can be something as reaching the vibrational state, or a full body exit into the astral. Other goal can be simple as walking through a wall, or exiting the house. Remember to take small steps than big one's. You are in the beginning stages learning how to enter a trance, feel vibrations, make a clean exit from the body and then experience a foreign new world and beyond. That is a big undertaking but can be exercised with time, patience, with proper documenting, and statistics.

Just remember that every night, this could be the one. If its not, you can try the next night, and so on. I would recommend that you find a comfort level of technique that you can work with over a period of time. Just because one technique might not yield immediate results, don't abandon it until 3-4 months. If does not work, move on to another technique.

There are no fast food drive thru's or magic pill to instant success when trying to project.  This goes without saying with anything we do in life. It all takes time and patience to develop. Remember to enjoy the fight, trial by error and passion behind your motivation. Being scared is normal and I can assure you that you will not die from a OBE. You might have a negative experience and be scarred for a little while, but that is rare. I have been out thousands of times and in all honestly, about 2% I ran into difficulty or a bad experience. It happens and you think positive to the next experience. Just do your best and please remember that if you really want to project whole heartedly, you will have to go the distance and train for that marathon.

Good Luck,

DW

Hey Lionhart,

I must have mis-read your post earlier, my apologies. What I was stating is that many people buy into gizmo's that think they need as a crutch to help project, but in actuality it's just novelty, etc..

I have an eye-pillow myself and every so often I will use it in the morning. So I can concur with what you are explaining. I have filmed about 10 videos capturing my physical body during the OBE. I have noticed a few times that my eyes would briefly open but not long enough. We are talking milliseconds and then shut.  All my experiences occur late morning hours and at that time, I expect it to be lighted in the astral. Sometimes, that is not the case and it's dark or when I am projecting at night time it is lighted. Its all what the mind makes up and wants to create at that moment in time or what I think it should be. Sometimes, thats a little tricky and easily can be fooled so its hard to decipher night and day. The astral world follows no rules when it comes to creating that I have found. The best thing you can do is question and challenge at that time...

Even after all these years of projecting, I am a sucker and always get blinded with false awakenings. Go figure..: )

DW

Lizelle,

You will run into those scary experiences and it will definitely leave an impressionable scare. However, I can reassure that like anything in life - gotta take the good with the bad. Not all OBE experiences will be beautiful rainbows and happy times.

I have had experiences where I honestly NEVER wanted to go back to sleep. Either from being attacked, shot point range in the chest, entity sticking its razor sharp tree limbs into me. Pushed down to the floor and couldn't move with a evil force. Having a woman stab me to death, and the worse was being burned by a fire breathing dragon pinned between two cars. Was this enough to question continence "ahh yah" but from all the other beautiful experiences that out weight the negative, it wasn't a deciding factor to throw it all away.

Folks - ya gotta take the good with the bad. Average of positive beautiful experiences are as followed:

Good - 98%
Bad - 2%
Decision - continue. This is after 20 + years of projecting.

DW

Kelsie,

I am a avid projector since 1987 and had had dry spells, but only lasted a month at the most. I have been pretty much consistent and relaxed lately in the last couple of years still projecting but not at the level I would like to be at. At least once a week, I will project and I am content, but when I am on fire and focused it is 2-3 OBEs weekly. It also depends on what is going on in your life that the physical takes away that focus.

What I am getting at is this: casual projecting w/o intent will get you no where. Many people fall into this trap and expect the OBE will happen naturally. It all takes time, patience and having a goal, desire for (wanting to project not expecting).

Please look at putting a goal out there for you to achieve, a realistic and obtainable goal. I would only focus on that one goal and not inundate yourself with multiple goals. If you have to write your goal down daily, tape it on the wall with paper, email yourself, text, what ever.. This will get you back on track and focused bringing the OBEs to return.

Good Luck,

DW

Summerland,

I am not sure of your documenting methods, but I found it extremely useful to use Date,time of OBE, and Title and write about the experience. Also, categorize the type of OBE - EX: Dream to OBE, False Awakening, Wide Awake Induced.

A lot of people who start out projecting question when the next time it will happen. So by doing all these statistical tracking, it paints a clearer picture to focus on the good and the bad days of when, to try and project.

Hope this helps, but otherwise it looks like your on track.

Good work,

DW