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76  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Doorway on: November 23, 2018, 04:57:12
Then I will have a overwhelming urge to readjust my eyes. It could be an urge to move them that I am fighting. All I know is the urge is very strong. I slowed the process down in the last few days to understand it more and it feels like I am turning my eye sight completely off. While fighting the urge, my hands and feet begin to tingle, like pins and needles and I get the sensation of rising. The next thing I know, I am in a vast empty darkness. The depth of that darkness has changed dramatically.

I feel reminded of the old Nick Newport Lucidology material. In this video he talks about the eye's micromovements to be avoided and also some eye exercises. Is it connected to your practice?

https://vimeo.com/5300101

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"Second Sleep Starter: Stop Eye Micromovements"

That wraps it up for sleep breathing. The second sleep starter is to stop eye micromovements.

During the day the eyes are searching for changes in motion. Because of this they make tiny micro movements all the time and at the end of they day they are still making these micro movements even though you may want to go to sleep.

If you close your eyes and try to keep them still you'll find that after about 30 seconds they are still twitching very slightly. It's not easy to totally relax the eyes. However if you can keep them at complete ease for several minutes the body will interpret that as a signal that the mind may have fallen asleep. In fact if you keep your eyes still your body will often fall asleep even if the rest of your muscles are fairly tense.

"Roll Eyes To Relax Them"

Before sleep, relax your eye muscles by rolling them around in wide circles in both directions several times and then letting them rest. After 3 or 4 nights of practicing this you'll be able to keep your eyes totally still and you'll fall asleep much faster.
77  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Really Odd Eye Problem on: November 08, 2018, 21:46:07
What baro-san said and also let the docs check for glaucoma. Since it's gone as you said it might not have been that but just a checking of the inner eye pressure is recommendable.

I wonder how cool you stayed. I'm not hypochondric but waking up with sh*t like that I would have run to the doc on the same day for sure.  wink
78  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Nice to be Back on: November 03, 2018, 22:54:09
We've been in the white Crash-screen Void for quite a few days. Now we all projected back to the blueish AstralPulse plane. Collectively. Great.
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79  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Tom Campbell Afterlife Thoughts? Psychic Mediums on: October 24, 2018, 21:27:17
Tom has said many times in the afterlife if your loved ones approach you it’s not even them. It’s just the larger consciousness system giving you comfort. That SUCKS.
I remember him also saying they just don't come that often to you because they have a lot of other things to do such as processing their just ended life (review, etc.) and preparing for another life experience package. So this is a slightly other version of it than just saying it is just the LCS computer thingy, etc.

I think we cannot solve this problem at all. It might be them or not or in some cases yes/no. I personally believe in the most cases it is actually them because LOVE is the factor here. Love between e.g. children and parents is expressed here and carries on in the afterlife. Of course it is the love of the 'other soul' (IUOC as Campbell calls it). But they as Higher Self or still as the individuated soul of that life want to reassure you and help you in your grief because of LOVE. I certainly would want to. But what do we know. Maybe physical life is like a dream and then you wake up and everything is back to normal what you really "are" and you do not care that much about the ones you left behind because you KNOW for shure they will be fine and one day 'wake up' just like you do and you can reunite then.

I like a lot of what TC says and writes but I do not swallow every thing he says or claims he found out, after all he's only a researcher of consciousness like everyone of us here is too. Imv he is also often too literal with his 'digital reality' thing and for me it is more metaphorical. Reality is certainly also 'computational' but that is not to be taken as sth literal and compare it to what 'digital' means in our world.
80  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Why is astral projection so hard to verify?? on: October 21, 2018, 21:32:32
I know in the past here, Volgerle has posted a link to many "Validations" that occurred during a NP experience. Perhaps he can post it again here so that all can read it.

It's for many years now part of my signature! Just see below. smiley
81  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The future on: October 21, 2018, 00:14:48
Compare the time of endless wars throughout the world with today s most peaceful times of all history.

I find this debatable or literally not debatable for that matter because we don't know enough of very ancient prehistoric times in many regions of Earth.

I've read accounts about e.g. pre-historic times in Europe where all were farming and trading peoples tribes with enough natural resources around them and that there is no sign of war and violence found by archeologists at all. For maybe even thousands of years.

So I would not be too sure about this being the most peaceful time. Moreover since today is not peacful in most parts of the world. We in the West live in our tiny reality bubble. And for a few decades now we have weapons of mass destruction and modern developments of the military of all kinds that is actually very frightening. War is business, too.

Yes, we also have achievements for sure, but it is all in all a very mixed bag for me.
 undecided
82  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The future on: October 20, 2018, 03:04:26
I wish there was a "shift" in consciousness going on and again a few more people would come her like it was due to the 2012 craze years ago. I do not see it happen fast, maybe over decades. I mean if you compare today to years or decades ago maybe sth happened indeed. But I also see the opposite happening. Materialism and fake skepticism still has its grip on society and TPTB and the education system and mass media hypnotising the people with this fake philosophy don't want that to change. So no, I don't see it happening right now.  cry
83  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Why is astral projection so hard to verify?? on: October 20, 2018, 00:26:31
Reality fluctuations (term coined by Robert Bruce iirc). It's not only the physical.

The physical layer (astral-physical / etheric or whatever you call it) is close to the physical but also close to the astral where your thoughts, desires, expectations, alternate timelines, symbols, etc. manifest.

Jürgen Ziewe has a good article about it on his website:

http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Mechanics_of_Out-of-body_travel.html

For validations from the physical it is better to learn the skill of Remote Viewing.
84  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: The Astral Pulse Hotline on: October 18, 2018, 00:21:48
Schmustin, I second Lumaza's advice about the clock time. If I were you would also try the indirect Wake-Back-To-Bed method and give myself 3 hours of sleep, then after the alarm-clock rings would give it a try. It can make a difference. It did so for me. Give it a try if you can and will.
85  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: The Astral Pulse Hotline on: October 13, 2018, 03:33:39
Will do some advertising for this on other forums maybe.
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86  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: The Bad news about APers on: October 08, 2018, 01:25:11
Made my day.

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87  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: How could ALL dreams be OBEs? on: September 27, 2018, 02:57:50
It just seems to me that there are separate bodies for the separate planes.  If dreams take place on the astral plane in our astral body, and the physical reality dream takes place on the physical plane in our physical body, then how did I dream from the physical body?  My physical body wasn't asleep yet and the astral body hadn't separated yet, yet i still had dream imagery going on in my mind.  That's all I'm saying.  
You might differentiate between bodies (astral, physical, mental, etc.) and soul/mind/consciousness/awareness. Bodies are the vehicles you use on each consciousness plane.

And you can experience being bi-located or 'multidimentional/plane/layered' on several planes in several bodies. Many do and did this. I also felt my physical body and was projected on the astral plane with my astral body often. So this would mean we exist somehow in all of our bodies at once, it is just our "focus" (from a higher view) that changes, hence this leads back to Monroe's focus view. In a mind-split / bilocation / multiple awareness situation/projection we then have a 'focus split' or 'focus multiplying', if you will.
88  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: How could ALL dreams be OBEs? on: September 26, 2018, 01:13:01
I understand that everything is an illusion or projection.  That is the ultimate truth.  Time and space is an illusion.  Everything in the physical and the non-physical is ultimately an illusion.  All the different planes of existence are illusions as are the bodies we have in each.  But to me, that doesn't explain it.  We are living within the illusion, so why are we talking about it from outside the illusion?  In this great illusion of life we seem to have different bodies for different planes. And if I'm just wondering how I could be dreaming from my physical body and not my astral body in the illusion.
I do not quite understand the equation projection = illusion. Generally, I do not think this 'illusionism' thing - which is abundant especially in a lot of new age material and speak - is the right philosophical approach. A projection is not an illusion for me, neither is a dream. For me all is 'real'.  wink
89  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: How could ALL dreams be OBEs? on: September 25, 2018, 01:39:59
So how could ALL dreams be OBEs?

astral projectors can meet dreamers in their dreams and even see thoughts of awake people in the physical, so I think that all is a projection of some kind, just into a different layer/plane or however you want to call it

There is a focus level by the TMI also attributed to dreamers, also Kurt Leland wrote a lot about the astral Dream Zone (no matter if you're lucid or not).
90  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Re: The Dream Zone on: September 20, 2018, 02:08:06
I loved the book and a lot of things that Leland put out. He has an amazing ability to record his dreams and lucid adventures and so bring them back into written form.

There is no limitation of space in the nonphysical because it is not space.  wink
91  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: If you have an amputated limb and astral projected please read!!! on: September 19, 2018, 01:17:01
I have a cousin that died by a large bomb in Iraq, nothing left of him, and I want to know if he still lives on in the astral. I think the best way to answer that is to see if someone who had an amputated limb still has that limb in the astral. So please if you can honestly answer this question I would appreciate it. Either way if he lives on as a full embodied being in the afterlife or is a part of the cosmic dust once again. I just want to know the truth. Thanks.
I think the way you die has nothing to do how you then operate in the astral or any higher realms. He might have indeed a full body. In higher realms we do not have (human) bodies anyway since we are not human. Most people in the astral are in their 20s or 30ies even if they died much older. So you choose subconsciously how you look. In my dreams I am often younger (20-30) too.
92  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: OBE compared to NDE on: September 14, 2018, 22:53:53
Another angle to view it from:

Distinguish between BEING on a plane and PERCEIVING a plane.

Neither APers/OBErs nor NDE-OBErs are on the physical plane.

Did the doctors and nurses see the NDEr when he hovered above the surgery table? No. So he WAS not on their level/plane. But he PERCEIVED it.

Only manifestated entities/souls such as GHOSTS are on the same plane or they are PERCEIVED by the physical being via astral sight (and thus are still on another plane/level).

Call it etheric or astral or mental plane or whatever. The mind/soul/consciousness is already on another plane, probably even while you are thinking your 'thoughts' and are aware you are not on this 3D-plane with your consciusness alone (the brain activity reflects it yes, but they are not the thoughtforms/awareness themselves).

Makes sense?  cool
93  Spiritual Evolution / Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: how to die on: September 14, 2018, 01:38:00
How about start living instead?
 smiley wink
94  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: OBE compared to NDE on: September 14, 2018, 01:35:58
Again: the link

https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/validations-for-obe-english

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95  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: OBE compared to NDE on: September 14, 2018, 01:33:59
And this is my point exactly. NDEers seem to actually still be observing what is going on in the REAL physical world, ie as if a ghost would. OBEs never observe what is going on in the real physical world, only a replica. That denotes a huge difference. So how can we be sure that NDEs and OBES are experiencing the same phenomenon? It can easily be said that an obe has simply accessed the dream construct. You cant say the same thing for an NDE because 1. They are observing the real physical world and 2. They are dead. UNLESS.....NDEers only THINK they are observing the “real” physical world but in truth they are only seeing the replica that we observe during obes. Im not convinced they are the same phenomenon.

OBErs do also a lot of validations, like the NDErs (however, most are done by the Remote Viewers actually) from the physical.

Have you seen my link? Please click on it. I stopped collecting examples years ago or it would be even double as long. I never even got started to do the NDEr and RVer validations. Too much.

I get your point somehow but I'm afraid it cannot be answered to your satisfaction.

We do not know the nature / physics of reality and planes exactly, how could we. So we can never really say how much the physical and 'etheric' or astral version of the physical are one of the same thing. Not in NDE and not in OBE. How can we? So your quest can never be answered satisfactorily.

What we know as experiencers is though that both levels / planes, are 'real' because you can get validations from the astral/etheric level.

I think it is like a filtering process, the physical filters into the astral and vice versa. But even NDErs could experience (and 'be') on an astral level of the physical. Note: That does NOT make it NOT real.  cheesy

How can we be sure an NDEer or a 'ghost' is not in the physical or astral entirely either? Maybe they also exist already in the closely linked etheric/astral plane (version of the RTZ). I believe we as multidimensional being exist simultaneously on all levels, that is why the I like Monroes (Kepple's) focus based view so much. So the whole RTZ business is certainly a bit fuzzy. There is constant interaction. Imagine it like thin veils laid on top of each other. And you can fly easily and switch betwen them all the time.

Some however are skilled RTZ (however you understand it) projectors. I remember the old book by Sylvan Muldoon, he was a very skilled RTZ projector and even stated he never was on an astral plane but only ever projected to the physical (and did validations). He also had etheric projections where he knocked down objects or produced knocking on the wall. Have you read the book? It was OBEs and no, he was not 'dead'.  wink
96  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming made super easy!! on: September 12, 2018, 03:22:38
I've used Brainsync amongst others for many years. I find them also well done and soothing and good for meditation or relaxation.

However I rarely did the subliminals and I think they did not work for me when I tried.
97  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: OBE compared to NDE on: September 12, 2018, 03:19:03
I agree with all you wrote. My point was this: NDEers seem to actually experience the rtz whereas OBEers seem to access the dream state ie lucid dreams. So how can we know they are one in the same?
OBErs also visit the RTZ, definitely. Many have seen their bodies in bed, me included. It was the physical and not an astral 'vision' or copy or whatever. There's also many validations brought back from the physical that exist (see my signature link).
98  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: OBE compared to NDE on: September 11, 2018, 04:07:49
NDEs contain OBEs.

They were by people who were (near) dead.

OBErs are not dying but projecting. It's like the connection is still intact you just send out a 'drone' (your astral body). If you die your astral body leaves with your consciousness and you carry on elsewhere because there is no connection to your disfunctional body.

I've read a lot of literature and accounts (also online). I think both can have all more or less the same ranges of experiences, including meeting dead people (relatives), seeing yourself out-of-body, meeting "God" (mystic, unity experience)., tunnel flights to a light, etc.

Some aspects, such as an instant short life review are more typical of NDEs.
99  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Chicken or the Egg on: September 09, 2018, 22:20:33
Since when did we decide the world is fake? I keep reading statements like - It's all subjective or we create our own reality

I'm one of those who does not say that. I say the opposite actually. Instead of 'all is illusion' I say 'all is REAL'. After all we talk about 'realities' (for planes, dimensions, realms, etc.) all the time too, right? It's in the word. It's all real. wink

It's why I have a problem with people claiming dreams are not real. Or thoughts are not real. or even so-called 'hallucinations'. What are they anyway, even if they are our own thought/mind creations? On some ('astral'?) level they are REAL, too. At least for me.
100  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: I had an astral projection after doing this on: August 23, 2018, 21:58:48
"True" and "not true" dreams?  What do they define as the difference? 
Sounds like a worse argument than the OBE community has over the different projection labels (obe, ld, ap, etc...).  LoL
Don't know exactly what it meant in detail because I had just read it superficially.

I am not a fan of Wiki but this description seems fitting anyway, so I quote it here:

"The gates of horn and ivory are a literary image used to distinguish true dreams (corresponding to factual occurrences) from false. The phrase originated in the Greek language, in which the word for "horn" is similar to that for "fulfil" and the word for "ivory" is similar to that for "deceive". On the basis of that play on words, true dreams are spoken of as coming through the gates of horn, false dreams as coming through those of ivory."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_of_horn_and_ivory

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