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Author Topic: Nibiru + ______ = dec. 21 2012?  (Read 209 times)
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« on: August 24, 2008, 01:46:08 »

I heard/watched/read alot of information on Nibiru and 2012, and have yet to make connection between

the two. An arrival of a planet named Nibiru entering into our solar system has been speculated for many

years, but I have yet to find an arrival date. It seems that people are making a very loose connection

here.

Objective answers are much appreciated. 
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 03:10:29 »

The planet Nibiru was proposed by Zecharia Sitchin, based on his own translations of ancient Sumerian texts and his interpretation of Sumerian myths.

Actual evidence for the existence of "Nibiru" has yet to be observed.


As for 2012, there's also no evidence of anything happening on the date. Loony new age material will talk about galactic alignments and cycles, but it's all pseudo-science and has no basis on reality.

For starters, the solar system is always aligned with the center of the galaxy and also there's no reason to believe "alignments" have any kind of effect.

The solar system wobbles up and down while it moves around the galaxy. Some will talk about alignment with the galactic equator being the root of 2012, however the solar system crosses the equator at cycles of about 30 million years, while the supposed cycle for the Mayan calendar is just of 26 thousand years.


If the Mayan calendar is indeed of 26000 years, then it surely is based on the precession of the equinoxes, a natural process with gradual effects (not noticeable with our limited lifespan).



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Found out now about this site that details the flaws of Sitchin's work.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 04:57:44 »

There is a new theory coming to light courtesy of alien abductees that may include 2012, although it isn't mentions directly.  Abductees, who for the most part have been abductees their entire lives, have spent a lifetime of those experiences with, and sometimes creating, alien hybrids.  Over the past decades, before abductions were even considered possible, let alone real, which is hard to convey even these days, aliens have been choosing humans for reproductive purposes.  It was not a perfect process then, many coming out looking much grays.  But the process has greatly improved, and now the hybrids that often abduct people can pass for human in normal society.  Some have large eyes or strange features that give their alien DNA away.  But others look very human.  Abductees have also been required to teach young hybrids about human society and its activies, on a small scale.  These activities suggest that hybrids are trying to emulate human beings, but keep their own genetics going.  Going after what?
The ancient Mayans believed that Earth was on a cycle and that cycle included 5 destruction events.  This is evident as a center piece depiction on their calendar, which ends on Dec. 21, 2012.  Earths past destructions have been because of jaguar, flood, fire, and wind.  These are the four disasters of the Earth depicted on the Mayan calendar, and we are now living in the fifth age, which is believed to be destroyed by Earthquake.  No one is certain why the Maya calendar ends on 2012, but there is good reason to speculate that they simply thought of it as the end of the world by earthquake on that date?  Well, how would they know that?
That too is unkown, but these events could coincide with a Planet X in our solar system that is unknown to us because of its enormous orbit, but does naturally come close enough to Earth to greatly effect it natural weather patterns in unnatural ways.  The Mayans may have had contact with advanced beings that were aware of this Planet X and its effects on Earth, and could predict its orbit just as we can with all planets today.  These occurances may have been taught to the Maya, and 2012 may be a date declared to them when the next one will occur.  Not something super natural or magical, but natural and potentially destructive.  But this too will cause a great shift in our evolution, just as this occurance did in the ice age with ancient man. 
The aliens who knew about these occurances are likely the same aliens that we come in contact with today, only even more advanced than before.  So they would know that this event is going to happen soon, and as a result are taking precautions to ensure the survival of our own species.  They could be reproducing us with themselves for a next evolutionary stage in both man and alien to inhabit and recreate the "new world" after Planet X has taken its toll.  So to sum up, Dec. 21, 2012 will be a very interesting day
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 18:31:33 »

Sounds like a pretty loose connection to me, but hey thats a new theory i haven't heard yet. At least now I can see the possibilitie. It's nice to know some one actually "read" my question and answered it.

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