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« on: April 08, 2008, 18:59:15 »

December 21, 2012 (11:11am GMT) marks the end of the Pisces age and also the end of the main Mayan calendar. There are two very popular theories that people are talking about, the galactic alignment and the planet Niburu.

Well which one is true? Are both going to happen? Will we shift into a new dimension as a result of the alignment of our planet with the galactic equator or as a result of a pole shift because of a huge gravitational pull from the massive crossing planet?

This thread is not meant to argue the question whether anything is going to happen, so please avoid input such as, "On Dec. 21, 2012 you will wake up, go to the bathroom, shave your face, brush your teeth ... go to work, eat dinner, go back to bed and sleep. [Nothing happens.]" This thread is simply asking which theory about 2012 you believe, only if any at all.

I just haven't seen a thread that addresses both of these theories.
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 15:48:37 »

You haven't seen much about this because nobody really knows anything that can be scientifically proved. First off The Mayans never wrote anything about a Doomsday, nor a Pole Shift.

Their calendar says only one thing, The end of One Galactic Day or Great Cycle (a period of 25,625 years average) and that's ALL there is. Then another Galactic Day starts over again, back to zero and towards another 25,625 years of count (which divided by 5 equals 5,125 years, or The Long Count).

Scientists however have evaluated the possibility of a Pole Shift and the causes of such an event, and have also studdied evidence of previous earth's pole shifts on ancient rocks.

There is ZERO evidence of an object BIGGER than Jupiter itself (Dwarf Star which is the qualification given to the so called Nibiru [Planet X] by those who believe in it) somewhere in our solar system. Second planets don't just come out of nowhere and begin orbiting our solar system. Third our last planet, Pluto takes about 248 earth-years to orbit around the sun, and any object farther than Pluto would take 300+ earth-years. If "Nibiru" was 4 years from passing by Earth, and due to the "fact" that it's indeed a Dwarf Star (which are qualified to have the mass of Jupiter and bigger) we'd probably see it in the outer sky without the need of sophisticated telescopes.

The only object that is to pass the closest to our Planet by the date of January 31st, 2012 is 433 Eros, a 13x13x33 km stellar object and will distant the earth about 16.6 million miles (less than half the distance between Earth and Mars).

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012

The Galactic Alignment on the other hand, is a scientifically proved event. Our Solar System wobbles up and down within our mother Galaxy. Each period or wobble (this is what I believe and have studied, I have no source for this however) seems to last about 26 thousand years (this is what the Mayans referred to in their Calendar as a Galactic Day). Each 26 thousand years (or 25,625 to be exact) our Solar System is to pass entirely by the Galaxy's equinox (point zero) and then back to another spike that last another 25,625 earth-years before it hits the middle of the galaxy again. That's about all that is known.

About a new age:

Astrologists have elaborated a Horoscope based on the Mayan Calendar without even knowing it: Twelve are the houses on the Horoscope. Divide 25,625 by 5 and that's about 5,150 (years). These are the 5 Cycles Mayans referred to as well. Now divide instead, 25,625 by 12 and you get 2,137 years. Each House of the Horoscope Wheel lasts about 2,137 years. The earth spends 2,137 on each house during a Galactic Day.



If what I'm saying is right, then we can look at the Bible and see that (if the bible is also right) we've Passed through the age of Aries and Pisces and are just about to enter Aquarius. Jesus said about his return. The Christ Consciousness was not Jesus, the man, but instead the Living Spirit inside that human shaped form which himself said it was even before Moses.

How can we notice the fact of the Horoscope Wheel? Since Jesus Christ's last coming to our planet, 2008 years have passed. As you can see, a Galactic Day divided by 12 equals 2,137 years (not exactly 2008, but not that far either). If We are in the age of Pisces that indicates the fact that Jesus miracles had to do mostly with Fish, that today's representation of Jesus Christ and Christianity has to do with a fish (a very known symbol is a fish with the word JESUS inside, mostly seen on Cars.) "That he made them fishers of men" "And he multiplied the fish so the multitude could eat" ... Then wee look to the years before Christ, when the bible mentions sheeps everywhere, and the sacrifice of sheeps and their blood to the God in Heavens. That counts as Aries. Then we go still more behind in history (about 4,000 years) and we have Moses and the Golden Bull, and Greeks and the myth of Minotaurs (half-human, half-bull). It all seems to match up. Read the Bible, all references to what I'm saying are there.

http://bible.com

Then a New Age (the Age of Aquarius) is really due very soon (maybe 2012, maybe a couple years later) and perhaps The Christ is keeping his word after all. But when will it all happen? The Mayans seemed to know when... How? I leave it to you to reason soundly and decide for yourselves, for living a Christlike life is all we need to enter the realms of our Father, He who reigns in Heavens.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 18:59:52 »

Very good post, Jazket. But you're mistaken here:

The Galactic Alignment on the other hand, is a scientifically proved event. Our Solar System wobbles up and down within our mother Galaxy. Each period or wobble (this is what I believe and have studied, I have no source for this however) seems to last about 26 thousand years (this is what the Mayans referred to in their Calendar as a Galactic Day). Each 26 thousand years (or 25,625 to be exact) our Solar System is to pass entirely by the Galaxy's equinox (point zero) and then back to another spike that last another 25,625 earth-years before it hits the middle of the galaxy again. That's about all that is known.


It takes the Sun 33 million years to cross the galactic plane, not 26 thousand. So you see there's no connection between the Solar System crossing the plane and the Mayan calendar. (source)

The 25,765 period you speak of is associated with the precession of the equinoxes.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 01:23:22 »

You haven't seen much about this because nobody really knows anything that can be scientifically proved. First off The Mayans never wrote anything about a Doomsday, nor a Pole Shift.

Their calendar says only one thing, The end of One Galactic Day or Great Cycle (a period of 25,625 years average) and that's ALL there is. Then another Galactic Day starts over again, back to zero and towards another 25,625 years of count (which divided by 5 equals 5,125 years, or The Long Count).

Scientists however have evaluated the possibility of a Pole Shift and the causes of such an event, and have also studdied evidence of previous earth's pole shifts on ancient rocks.

There is ZERO evidence of an object BIGGER than Jupiter itself (Dwarf Star which is the qualification given to the so called Nibiru [Planet X] by those who believe in it) somewhere in our solar system. Second planets don't just come out of nowhere and begin orbiting our solar system. Third our last planet, Pluto takes about 248 earth-years to orbit around the sun, and any object farther than Pluto would take 300+ earth-years. If "Nibiru" was 4 years from passing by Earth, and due to the "fact" that it's indeed a Dwarf Star (which are qualified to have the mass of Jupiter and bigger) we'd probably see it in the outer sky without the need of sophisticated telescopes.

The only object that is to pass the closest to our Planet by the date of January 31st, 2012 is 433 Eros, a 13x13x33 km stellar object and will distant the earth about 16.6 million miles (less than half the distance between Earth and Mars).

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012

The Galactic Alignment on the other hand, is a scientifically proved event. Our Solar System wobbles up and down within our mother Galaxy. Each period or wobble (this is what I believe and have studied, I have no source for this however) seems to last about 26 thousand years (this is what the Mayans referred to in their Calendar as a Galactic Day). Each 26 thousand years (or 25,625 to be exact) our Solar System is to pass entirely by the Galaxy's equinox (point zero) and then back to another spike that last another 25,625 earth-years before it hits the middle of the galaxy again. That's about all that is known.

About a new age:

Astrologists have elaborated a Horoscope based on the Mayan Calendar without even knowing it: Twelve are the houses on the Horoscope. Divide 25,625 by 5 and that's about 5,150 (years). These are the 5 Cycles Mayans referred to as well. Now divide instead, 25,625 by 12 and you get 2,137 years. Each House of the Horoscope Wheel lasts about 2,137 years. The earth spends 2,137 on each house during a Galactic Day.



If what I'm saying is right, then we can look at the Bible and see that (if the bible is also right) we've Passed through the age of Aries and Pisces and are just about to enter Aquarius. Jesus said about his return. The Christ Consciousness was not Jesus, the man, but instead the Living Spirit inside that human shaped form which himself said it was even before Moses.

How can we notice the fact of the Horoscope Wheel? Since Jesus Christ's last coming to our planet, 2008 years have passed. As you can see, a Galactic Day divided by 12 equals 2,137 years (not exactly 2008, but not that far either). If We are in the age of Pisces that indicates the fact that Jesus miracles had to do mostly with Fish, that today's representation of Jesus Christ and Christianity has to do with a fish (a very known symbol is a fish with the word JESUS inside, mostly seen on Cars.) "That he made them fishers of men" "And he multiplied the fish so the multitude could eat" ... Then wee look to the years before Christ, when the bible mentions sheeps everywhere, and the sacrifice of sheeps and their blood to the God in Heavens. That counts as Aries. Then we go still more behind in history (about 4,000 years) and we have Moses and the Golden Bull, and Greeks and the myth of Minotaurs (half-human, half-bull). It all seems to match up. Read the Bible, all references to what I'm saying are there.

http://bible.com

Then a New Age (the Age of Aquarius) is really due very soon (maybe 2012, maybe a couple years later) and perhaps The Christ is keeping his word after all. But when will it all happen? The Mayans seemed to know when... How? I leave it to you to reason soundly and decide for yourselves, for living a Christlike life is all we need to enter the realms of our Father, He who reigns in Heavens.
i imagine nibiru would go alot faster than pluto would, so by 2012 it will be here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 03:06:47 »

Do you have any sort of evidence to support that claim or did you just 'imagine' it in order to conform with an already chosen conclusion?
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 02:18:17 »

Of all the incredible things the Mayans accomplished, perhaps they are best known for their superior calendar.  They were so adept at the movement of the cosmos that they revolved many of their beliefs around them.  With that in mind if anything happens on 2012 I think it will be something astronomical (no pun intended).
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 05:50:59 »

Like Jazket said, there is ZERO chance of the whole Nibiru thing.

And no matter how you cut it, galactic alignment is REALLLLLYYYY SLOOWWWWW business. There is no way to calculate to the date when you're dealing with thousands or even millions of years.

Additionally, Dec 21 2012 is only the most widely accepted translation of b'ak'tun 13. Regardless of how good the Mayans were at making calendars, we still don't have a direct translation of their work tongue
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 22:31:32 »

hello everyone i am new here and this was the first topic i've seen so i just thought i would put in my thoughts on this subject. but first thing is first, what is the most common astrological event that happins every so often? you see comets quite abit don't you, however no one has ever tried measuring the distance of them have they? well acourding to researchers of the bible code a comet is supposed to hit the earth on 12 21 2012 and that pretty much seems to be more probable then anything seeing as there is thousands or millions of them and thats not to say the galactic alignment won't happin either just remember what happined to the dinosaurs, also in the bible at his birth there was a star brighter then anyother star, could have been a comet.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 12:54:28 »

or nibiru lol
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008, 03:47:34 »

they already ruled that one out. i think it could be a comet.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 19:01:25 »

Evidence?...
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 07:44:32 »

well, one in the bible it says that an object will fall from the sky from the deep reaches of the galixy, two it's beleived that it's happined before, and three it is common every 50-60 years count all the years up and most likely it'll all add up, i don't know as of yet if it does but i'll conduct research on it sometime.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 16:53:30 »

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Don't put it off until 2012
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2008, 05:12:59 »

well, one in the bible it says that an object will fall from the sky from the deep reaches of the galixy, two it's beleived that it's happined before, and three it is common every 50-60 years count all the years up and most likely it'll all add up, i don't know as of yet if it does but i'll conduct research on it sometime.

1. I doubt the people who wrote the bible even knew galaxies exist.

2. Something happening before doesn't mean it'll happen again, and even if it did, why on 2012 and not other year?

3. An impact event with effects on a global level isn't that common.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2008, 17:49:00 »

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1. I doubt the people who wrote the bible even knew galaxies exist.

2. Something happening before doesn't mean it'll happen again, and even if it did, why on 2012 and not other year?

3. An impact event with effects on a global level isn't that common.

1.the people that wrote the bible wrote the bible from god's words
2. yes in fact it does, history repeats it's self compair current affairs with histroy and because 2012 is the equinox, for a good example of past and current events look up the girl with 8 limbs it's not a coincidence.
3. it all depends on your views of time linear time goes forward while non linear goes back, existing parallel to another yet still not relative.

a site about end times (imagine that everyones obsession)
http://www.bible-prophecy.com/fearful.htm

[edit:]sorry i couldn't find any records so far, i'll continue tomorrow
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