Not Dec. 21, 2012... but Oct. 14, 2008?????

[Kazbadan]

I bet nothing will happen. Dont wast ur time.

[galaxy_storm]

I have been reading a paradigm-shifting book by physicist William A. Tiller, and he proposes the physical and "etheric" worlds are separated by the speed of light. Everything below the speed of light is dense physical substance, and everything above the speed of light is "etheric" substance.  Approaching the speed of light theoretically requires an infinite amount of physical energy, and so is supposedly impossible and there is a sort of forbidden energy zone (without the right "vehicle" for transportation across it )

That's really interesting 

[Stookie]

Here's a depiction of the gnostic veil that someone else posted here a while back:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/agochar/GnosticSoul.jpg

The original gnostics believed the veil is the physical world and the physical body, created by Satan to deceive man and keep him from knowing his true self and God. Some believe the veil is created by ego, and our goal is to alchemically transform ego into spirit, or something of that nature.

And I bet that CFTraveler knows much more about this stuff than me and my armchair mysticism

[Starvingpercussionist]

"Armchair mysticism". Lol. 

[AndrewTheSinger]

The gods have been disturbed, can you feel it? 

[CFTraveler]

Here's a depiction of the gnostic veil that someone else posted here a while back:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/agochar/GnosticSoul.jpg

The original gnostics believed the veil is the physical world and the physical body, created by Satan to deceive man and keep him from knowing his true self and God. Some believe the veil is created by ego, and our goal is to alchemically transform ego into spirit, or something of that nature.

And I bet that CFTraveler knows much more about this stuff than me and my armchair mysticism

I know nuthin'. 
 But I will say that in premedieval times the early christians believed that the sky was made of copper and was shaped like a dome- hence the word 'firmament'. (Which means 'firm').  However, my very little knowledge of ancient gnosticism revolves around a system of thought that involved a pseudo-god who created the world out of his own belief, not knowing he was the offspring of Sophia (knowledge).  This stemmed from the idea that a god that creates situations that are not so good can't be so good.  Hence the veil in which reality is dual, separating it from nondualism, which this pseudo god doesn't even know about, being limited in understanding.
As you can imagine, I don't subscribe to gnostic dualism but see why they thought what they thought......

[Xeko82]

There is a book called Alien Interview with information from Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy. It could just be some dang good made up story or truth. *shrug*

I have a PDF of the book which you can find in book stores in print as well.  Pretty much it boils down to we are in a "prison" developed by the Old Empire which has been ran out of this part of the galaxy by The Domain.  We are all spirits which were caught in "traps" or sentenced to this prison by the Old Empire.  A younger government, as you may call it, now rules this area and is named "The Domain" and it's their ship that was downed in Roswell.  Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy is the female nurse who was the one who received the mental communication between the "alien." Supposedly the spiritual being (aka: alien) would only speak with her and no one else.  She had a pure and concerned spirit which it sensed. The spiritual being told her that 3000 of their own spiritual beings were trapped here. Yada-yada-yada. Point being, we are trapped here and reincarnated back with our mind wiped each time. In a short while (thousands of years our time) The Domain will remove the "traps" keeping us bound to this planet.  They say maybe we can free ourselves by being more spiritual and unlocking our memory to escape.

Here is an interview with the author of the book.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfYoTsA_Cw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=invQERQqgbo&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_t4Lt1UXo&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmCsa2XmhA8
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXpYY5Nwswo

Ok, now I am NOT trying to offend anyone here with my next comment so please don't flame me. The spiritual being explains how religion was first created by the Old Empire to keep us in line, fearful, and to look to the Prison Guards as Gods.  The Domain changed some things in the religion later when they ran the Old Empire out of this area.  I personally keep an open mind because what's told in this book could be real. Then again it could have been a LOT of information on history made to look fake. 

I hope my first post isn't going to start a fight =\

But anyways if the Federation of Light is here to open us up this goes along with what The Domain's future goals.

[Stookie]

I know nuthin'. 
 But I will say that in premedieval times the early christians believed that the sky was made of copper and was shaped like a dome- hence the word 'firmament'. (Which means 'firm').  However, my very little knowledge of ancient gnosticism revolves around a system of thought that involved a pseudo-god who created the world out of his own belief, not knowing he was the offspring of Sophia (knowledge).  This stemmed from the idea that a god that creates situations that are not so good can't be so good.  Hence the veil in which reality is dual, separating it from nondualism, which this pseudo god doesn't even know about, being limited in understanding.
As you can imagine, I don't subscribe to gnostic dualism but see why they thought what they thought......

Oops... I didn't mean to imply you subscribe to gnostic beliefs, I just assumed you're more knowledgeable on the subject than me. 

I mean, come on, satan creating the world as an illusion - that sounds like a crazy science fiction movie involving people in leather and sunglasses doing kung-fu.

[malganis]

Oops... I didn't mean to imply you subscribe to gnostic beliefs, I just assumed you're more knowledgeable on the subject than me. 

I mean, come on, satan creating the world as an illusion - that sounds like a crazy science fiction movie involving people in leather and sunglasses doing kung-fu.

If Lucifer is a symbol for the mind then it makes sense.

[CFTraveler]

I thought the gnostics called the creator either Yahweh or Yaldabaoth, not satan or lucifer-

Thanks for the vote of confidence Stookie- I  have some gnostic friends and like some gnostic gospels (like the Gospel of Thomas) but not others.  I didn't think you thought anything in particular, I just wanted to clarify that little detail.
I'm sure there have to be some gnostics around here that can explain their cosmology better, 'cause I really don't know nuthin'.

[Adun]

I bet nothing will happen. Dont wast ur time.

Ha! Look who's still around.

[interception]

Tomorrow is the big day! Cant wait...

[Vitruvian]

The brain trust here at the Vitruvian Institute has confirmed that there will indeed be a large circular object appearing overhead the night of 14 October 2008 - the full moon. The inescapable conclusion: the Lunarites (i.e. 'loonies') are coming.
For the Institute,
Vitruvian

[kurai kokoro]

Somehow I feel that they indeed could be from farther away, say the orion constilation at the center star of orion's belt. (by the way my crystal was taken.)

[Stookie]

Somethings definitely going on today...  cuz I can't think of anything smart-@ssed to say about it.