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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2008, 17:02:04 »

Vitruvian And Awakened_Mind,

The pole shift hypothesis refers to the shifting of the geographical poles. Those do not coincide with the magnetic poles (a compass won't point to the north pole, it will point to something close called "magnetic north").

While there is a gradual change in the geographical poles, sudden shifts such as those described in the pole shift hypothesis seem to be all new agey pseudo-science and speculation.
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2008, 03:55:38 »

Vitruvian And Awakened_Mind,

The pole shift hypothesis refers to the shifting of the geographical poles. Those do not coincide with the magnetic poles (a compass won't point to the north pole, it will point to something close called "magnetic north").

While there is a gradual change in the geographical poles, sudden shifts such as those described in the pole shift hypothesis seem to be all new agey pseudo-science and speculation.

Not geographical, geomagnetic. How can a theory regarding the magnetic reversal of the North-South orientation have nothing to do with magnetism? Seriously.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward761.htm

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2008, 11:53:27 »

Some expect a magnetical N-S poleshift will happen.
Can someone tell me, why this happens and its dated to 2012?

I mean if a natural magnet is turned N-S why should it switch somewhere in 2012?
Will other magnets will not change then and jump of, means if you put many magnets in one direction and setup them like a dynamo you get an energy shoot by 2012, i guess its not that physical massive, but i am just wondering....
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2008, 16:30:46 »

aleshah,
Look at my previous post; there is a link to the Scientic American magazine and articles(s) explaining this natural phenomenom. Then see the following.

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fun link; I enjoy articles that quote their sources.
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2008, 02:43:41 »

Not geographical, geomagnetic. How can a theory regarding the magnetic reversal of the North-South orientation have nothing to do with magnetism? Seriously.



Again.... Geomagnetic reversal deals with magnetic poles. Pole shift hypothesis refers to a shift in the geographic poles, it's an hypothesis and not to be confused with true polar wander.


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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2008, 23:59:53 »

a shift so whats the point.what do you expect by knowing it?
whats about the possibilty of a black hole or a meteor spread incoming?
and if any invasion from outside world is possible it has been happened already.
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« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2008, 00:40:05 »

The nearest black hole is several million light years away IIRC.

If it moved at the speed of light, it'd hit us in a million years or so. Black holes don't move anywhere near the speed of light. Not to mention none are heading in the same general direction as us, due to the expanding universe (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_shift)

Comets and asteroids, well, those are much closer and have a decent (IIRC something on the order of one in a hundred thousand, possible, but mostly slim in the near future). We'd have at least a few years warning and at worst nuke it to bits and deal with a few thousand small meteorites but still better than a giant direct hit.

As for aliens, well, I'll see Adun's Picard and raise him a
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For the sole reason of, why the hell would aliens want this excrement-hole dirtball planet? If they had interstellar planet, I'm sure they could find some green-and-blue pristine globe, pre-industrial.

Alien invasion is about as likely as zombie apocalypse.


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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2008, 16:09:11 »

Sadly ppl need to suffer to see any progress.Who is to blame if the experiment goes wrong?

The main reason is to enjoy life or not?
To enjoy life you need money.Money makes problems.Do rich ppl enjoy their life or is the purity the
main factor doing it?
Dont think the richest society requires zombie folk for a reason, they have got machines.
Also the fact a zombie human is more lucky in this life than his opposite.
Do machines save our lifes?To much machines will cause much population to the satisfied society.
Too much population will cause a war maybe.And the illusion a machine knows more about a human than he knows.
For example if there is a war- other beings are interested to see or not?

I guess alien folk dont need any invasion, they simply spy out technology or something that way.
Also the fact that most technological advances are coming with wars because of the scientific  intervention while military hold or develop the highest technology possible.

But there is any better way to spy out as being human or making deals with humans if no invasion makes any sense.
Like money has no effort out there invasion has got no effort in here.
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« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2008, 19:02:05 »

The threat of a Nibiru or some other comet is a valuble warning, but it can only be valuable to people who know what would happen if they stopped going forward in their thinking which is happening now with all of the calamities and the psychoses caused by the influx of so many drugs and pharmaceuticals.  That is more of a threat than Nibiru ever was. And people are just falling into the habit of accepting these substances as normal life while they watch the skies and hope. 
Now as for the earth stopping its spinning, I wouldn't know how that could occur except there was a large collision from some asteroid and if that were to occur the moon would be thrown out from us if it wasn't in the trajectory, but the moon doesn't spin and the moon could be the remnant of the collision of the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.

Y'all seem to have been left behind because all of the possibilities that you could use to build the correct hypothesis has been presented to you and you have refused to put it all together.  The dinosaurs were eliminated for a reason by some intelligence for the purpose of the furtherance of the being called human.
Now, this human has fallen into the same trap as the dinosaur; how are we going to be eliminated?
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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2008, 15:19:39 »


Again.... Geomagnetic reversal deals with magnetic poles. Pole shift hypothesis refers to a shift in the geographic poles, it's an hypothesis and not to be confused with true polar wander.

We're not talking about true polar wander or pole shift hypothesis. The original post was:

Okay, this post will only be written from my general knowledge of science and from what I've been told.

By some galactic alignment and the Niburu passing in 2012, earth will stop spinning. This will basically raise hell on earth (not hell literally)--earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, floods, hurricanes, etc. After some days, so "they" say, the earth will begin to rotate again, but mostly likely on a different axis than it used to.

Well that's what I've read.

Anyway, I started thinking about this which I haven't read anywhere else, yet. Well from what I know, if Earth stops rotating, doesn't that mean the magnetosphere will dissolve for a while? That means we'll have no magnetic protection from the solar winds. Also, don't we need our magnetosphere to power our machines? Electricity will be lost for the time being. Furthermore, if machines won't work neither will our bodies. Since our brains and whole nervous system simply run on electric, will we die?

Maybe I'm wrong about the electric thing, but that's what I was taught. Keep in mind that I'm no scientist here, so be easy with the rants if I'm wrong. This is just a thought I had that I'm hoping someone with better knowledge can clear up for me.

The theory he's talking about is where the earth's magnetic field diminishes, flips 180 degrees, then it ceases spinning and reverses it's orbit. Which is why I am talking about magnetic reversal.

The only theory that accomodates a decrease in the earth's magnetic field is Geogmagnetic Reversal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal It's more widely accepted in the scientific community than the pole shift hypothesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_theory

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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2008, 16:21:21 »

FYI, this pole shift/geomagnetic reversal confusion was started not by the OP, these posts did it:

Quote from: Awakened_Mind
The reality of the pole shift is that during some part of earth's history the magnetic north-south orientation has reversed 180 degrees, once or perhaps more.

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One of several articles in the Scientific American, discussing why and how often the earth's magnetic field reverses. I'd say you could call that a pole shift.



On another note, somehow I can't shake the feeling that my negative "karma" comes from my posts not being all "GALACTIC ALIGNMENT AND BANANAS THEREFORE 2012 R ALIENS LOL!"-based. cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2008, 01:09:48 »

Whoops - sorry I tried to throw some light on this concern by linking that article. Live and learn!
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PS - I don't do negative karma's, not my place.
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2008, 09:19:36 »

Ive just noticed by your posts you get no negative karma guys just a false impression.
u will recognize that your level of knowledge
is based on National Geographic
Focusing on the negative you will know how you can do positive next whatever your limits of imagination allow now.
In my opinion you investigate to much time on future diagnostics on an energy pattern you cant live with.
This pattern is called fear. cheesy
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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2008, 20:47:24 »

FYI, this pole shift/geomagnetic reversal confusion was started not by the OP, these posts did it:

On another note, somehow I can't shake the feeling that my negative "karma" comes from my posts not being all "GALACTIC ALIGNMENT AND BANANAS THEREFORE 2012 R ALIENS LOL!"-based. cheesy

For starters I haven't touched your karma. I only applaud, its the fact that it's a karma system... just the irony in 'smiting' smiley

Second the orignal post says :

"Well from what I know, if Earth stops rotating, doesn't that mean the magnetosphere will dissolve for a while? That means we'll have no magnetic protection from the solar winds. Also, don't we need our magnetosphere to power our machines? Electricity will be lost for the time being. Furthermore, if machines won't work neither will our bodies. Since our brains and whole nervous system simply run on electric, will we die?"

I think we are just simply interpreted the same thing differently. The term 'pole shift' in my OP was used, to be honest, because before the thread pole-shift theory and geomagnetic reversal were the same thing to me. My mistake. However I still think the theory of best fit, for the magnetosphere diminishing, the earth stopping rotating and changing direction of orbit is geomagnetic reversal.

-AM
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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2008, 00:06:58 »



This world is a virtual one.Everything flows, there is no time for muse breaks, no time for karmic folds....

They fly outerspace, their brains are working properly, for a while....

Working hard on karmic clearing for a reason.The matter is so pure it holds no space for karmic folds.

Time has come to decide, you will choose the right.

There is no time doing it wrong, everything is coming arround.

Just because of the raw nature, u can create alomst everything.

Like as the world is a projection, time is ...

There are emanations of light 4 life.

Do you think are you real? How you can say?

It doesnt matter.It never did matter.

But it will be real another day.

Will you look forward or behind?Will you see the colors or just grey light?

You will decide, you will choose right.

Like false impressions will lead up to no good....

Express yourself, you can be real.
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« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2008, 12:40:52 »

For starters I haven't touched your karma. I only applaud, its the fact that it's a karma system... just the irony in 'smiting' smiley

Second the orignal post says :

"Well from what I know, if Earth stops rotating, doesn't that mean the magnetosphere will dissolve for a while? That means we'll have no magnetic protection from the solar winds. Also, don't we need our magnetosphere to power our machines? Electricity will be lost for the time being. Furthermore, if machines won't work neither will our bodies. Since our brains and whole nervous system simply run on electric, will we die?"

I think we are just simply interpreted the same thing differently. The term 'pole shift' in my OP was used, to be honest, because before the thread pole-shift theory and geomagnetic reversal were the same thing to me. My mistake. However I still think the theory of best fit, for the magnetosphere diminishing, the earth stopping rotating and changing direction of orbit is geomagnetic reversal.

-AM

I wasn't blaming anyone specifically for my negative "karma", simply commenting what I think is a funny occurrence. Not that I really care.

Geomagnetic reversal does predict a switch between the north and south magnetic poles, however I don't understand how that could stop the earth's rotation or even change it's orbit.
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« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2008, 17:55:49 »

       it won't stop the orbit or anything, the only way a polar shift can occur is global warming and technonik shift.
       in a dream i posted i neglected to mention that the moon was at a higher orbit and thus the only way the water can rise around the polar ice caps, because the moon creates the tides,
       if you take a fresh water ice cube and put in a bucket of salt water it'll dissolve the cube more quickly, however after global warmming we will most likely have another ice age,
       that is not to say we would die from it so long as we have the right thermo equipment to keep us warm,
        and the electromagnetic Field could prevent mechanics from working though it would have to be at a certain frequency, and just so you know everything in our solar system effects our planet to some degree as well as ourselves however that is still not to say that we would necessarily die if something changed weather it be a second moon or whatever, if there is one thing the human race is good at, it's adapting to change. so don't dwell upon the future, focus your mind on the here and now where it belongs

sorry seems i went a little over board
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« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2008, 04:06:31 »

I can't understand a thing from your post, try writing with a little more coherency and punctuation please.
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« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2008, 05:14:42 »

I can't understand a thing from your post, try writing with a little more coherency and punctuation please.
sorry about that i was being hurried off the computer: but i miss interpreted that post so sorry.
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