Where will you be on Dec 21, 2012?

[Tayesin]

Hi RT,
Thank you for the links you provided.  As president of a research group where I live, I received the information about the increase in Schumann's Resonance, which I found affirmed the observations some of us were making.

Secondly, the birthing into the next age cannot occur with a sigh or joyous smile for one important reason.  People on this planet have been working what I call 'the Might is Right mindset', and as with all things, it has to reach it's own conclusion BEFORE the step into the next age.

So, what is happening in the world around us must grow to it's inevitable ending, before anything will change, although there is also the beginnings of the new within the dying of the old.

In this respect, the 2012 birthing into the new age will be like any birth, wracked with pain before it settles down again.

I have no reason to explain why Montauk viewers were unable to see into that time-frame, while the group I experienced viewing with were able to clearly get deep insight and clear 'seeing'.

And to date, my seeing has always been extremely accurate over the past 25+ years, even though I rarely told anyone what it was that I had seen, with a few outstanding exceptions, such as 9-11, Bali, and the things that are to occur here in my own country within the next two years.

Earth will always change, sometimes over millioins of years, and sometimes over months, as it will in the build-up to the latter part of 2012.

 

[RT]

Hi RT,

Secondly, the birthing into the next age cannot occur with a sigh or joyous smile for one important reason.  People on this planet have been working what I call 'the Might is Right mindset', and as with all things, it has to reach it's own conclusion BEFORE the step into the next age.

So, what is happening in the world around us must grow to it's inevitable ending, before anything will change, although there is also the beginnings of the new within the dying of the old.

I have no reason to explain why Montauk viewers were unable to see into that time-frame, while the group I experienced viewing with were able to clearly get deep insight and clear 'seeing'.

And to date, my seeing has always been extremely accurate over the past 25+ years, even though I rarely told anyone what it was that I had seen, with a few outstanding exceptions, such as 9-11, Bali, and the things that are to occur here in my own country within the next two years.

Earth will always change, sometimes over millioins of years, and sometimes over months, as it will in the build-up to the latter part of 2012.

 

Tayesin,


I have to agree with you 100% on the mind set and it really hurts me deeply. I can't tell you how many times I apologize to Mother earth for what we are all doing to her.  She unconditionally gives to us and we disrespect her by our actions and very little appreciation or thanks.  And People have no idea that she transmute as much of the  negative energy  in the world as she can without trying to effect us very much.  We do not live in harmony with her which could have easily been achieved earlier on in history. The arrogance and blind ignorance of individuals here on earth is daunting.

It will reach a boiling point but those in a high vibrational thought process will be less effected.  For some it may feel like doomsday, but others will see it as the beginning of the new age.


Thanks for your input and reply to my post I appreciate and respect your views.

RT

[pmlonline]

And to date, my seeing has always been extremely accurate over the past 25+ years, even though I rarely told anyone what it was that I had seen, with a few outstanding exceptions, such as 9-11, Bali, and the things that are to occur here in my own country within the next two years.

Dear Tayesin,

Could you please post here your predictions?  I would agree with you that 2012 holds terrible destruction.  As far as the earth flip, I feel it’s closer to 2014 to 2015.

[Tayesin]

Hi Paul,
Welcome back.

I would prefer to keep my Seeing to myself as I have usually done with the exceptions of what I have already put into writing here at AP. If the need arises to change that I will let you know here.

Thanks all the same.
 

[Euphoric Sunrise]

I have one thing to say in this thread. Those of you who are saying "this is nonsense and that's that" are just as foolish as those who are saying "there's no doubt about it". To make up your mind about such an event at this stage can be nothing but foolishness.
I understand that people have become uninterested in such prophecies and that their experiences have led them to believe that it's all nonsense, but i just feel it's kind of silly to turn your back. It's fine to lean one way or the other, but to make up your mind with such convictions that you feel certain you'll be laughing at everybody when nothing happens coems across as ignorant to me. I think it's wise to keep an ear out and an eye open. Nobody knows the truth of the matter. Keep that in mind.

My view on the matter is that maybe something will happen, and i wouldn't be surprised if it does, but if it does i'm guessing it will be related to a shift in energy. Not necessarily the entire planet ascending to the 5th dimension or something, but perhaps just a subtle shift in energy that most won't even notice. On the other hand, it could all just be hype. Only time will tell.

[RT]

I have one thing to say in this thread. Those of you who are saying "this is nonsense and that's that" are just as foolish as those who are saying "there's no doubt about it". To make up your mind about such an event at this stage can be nothing but foolishness.

The "Mind" has nothing to do with it, in fact the mind is very deceiving. Events just happen.  And calling people fools is not polite.  


"Even great masters learn from fools" keep that in mind.

 

[Nay]

I can understand what you're saying Euphoric.... I guess I should say this whole doom and gloom doesn't stir on thing in my heart, mind, body, or soul.....nothing.  

I can't even make myself think about it for long, it gets quite boring.  How about we all agree to just disagree, I'm totally up for that.

Nay

[Chimerae]

I can understand what you're saying Euphoric.... I guess I should say this whole doom and gloom doesn't stir on thing in my heart, mind, body, or soul.....nothing.  

I can't even make myself think about it for long, it gets quite boring.  How about we all agree to just disagree, I'm totally up for that.

Nay

Nay,

I suspect this should be it's own thread, but I don't have a clue how to word it.

What I'm really looking for here in understanding about something that pushes my HUH? buttons so hard that my brain fries.  I think you and other moderators and experienced posters know the answer, or I'd just wander off and leave it alone.

I'm using this specific forum and your specific post, but I hit this alot.

If this bores you   why do you read the post?  If YOUR recommendation is to "agree to disagree" -- why are YOU debating?  Why post at all on an issue that you either consider to be of no value or one that simply doesn't resonate for you?

I can understand this with novices.  I understand this when people have issues and some post hits an emotional button they need to defend.  I can understand this with folks with dominance issues.  I can come up with half a dozen ways and a thousand scenarios that quiet my "Huh/WTF?" reaction, but those don't work here for me.

I can't understand this out of YOU and a number of other people.  

I am thinking, given my history and past performance, that this will have to do with a set of my own expectations that are just stupid.  It doesn't FEEL like that.  It feels like there's important information here that I personally am missing

If you can, please explain to me why on a forum with thousands of post on so many different issues, that's just one forum in nearly a universe of discussion sites on the internet, you personally would take the time to comment on something bores you.  Why even read it?

Or is this one of those basic things I've missed in my internet learning and development, and it's a moderators JOB -- that you have to read it all as part of your duties as a moderator, and hence your comments just come out of that.  

Damn.  Damn.  Damn.  I STILL can't find a way to say this so that my real question comes through and not chatter of criticism.  I really don't mean this as a critique, just painful level of bewilderment about a human dynamic.

[pmlonline]

I would prefer to keep my Seeing to myself

Do you offer any hints of predictions perhaps.  

[Nay]

Well Chimerea, I suppose for the same reason you felt necessary to post what you just posted..  

You could have done exactly what you are asking me to do, don't read or post anything..  what made YOU do it?  I'm pretty sure you'll have the answer you seek when you ponder on it awhile.

[Euphoric Sunrise]

I have one thing to say in this thread. Those of you who are saying "this is nonsense and that's that" are just as foolish as those who are saying "there's no doubt about it". To make up your mind about such an event at this stage can be nothing but foolishness.

The "Mind" has nothing to do with it, in fact the mind is very deceiving. Events just happen.  And calling people fools is not polite.  


"Even great masters learn from fools" keep that in mind.

 

I didn't mean to offend anybody or diminish anybody by saying they may be being foolish, but it's the way i see things and i believe it's far more beneficial to express the truth than to with-hold contribution to something i feel i need to say, polite or not. I'm not calling anybody stupid or anything like that. All i'm saying is that in my view their judgement could be better.
I would have to disagree with your stance on the mind, but that's irrelevent in this topic.

[RT]

I would have to disagree with your stance on the mind, but that's irrelevent in this topic.

It only takes one example of proof if your looking at the mind in a logical sense to know that it can be deceived.  

The mind can be deceived in many many ways.  Drugs, alcohols, extreme heat ( mirage's), Extreme cold, Darkness....hmmm what is that in the dark, even thought it is your eyes seeing it is your mind processing the info.

You may be speaking of a different aspect of the mind or maybe have a different opinion on what the mind is, but from my position the mind can be trick.

Will this deception play a role in how we predict  what is coming?

Happy New year to all of you!
RT

[pmlonline]

It only takes one example of proof if your looking at the mind in a logical sense to know that it can be deceived.

Are you referring to the physical brain or the mental unit / mind?  There’s a huge difference.  I would agree that the mental unit / mind is not perfect, but it is far more perfect the emotions.  As far as the physical brain ... well have you ever seen a zombie.  A zombie is an empty physical shell with no Soul.  It’s dumber than dumb.  Now our divine self is perfect.

[RT]

Does anyone feel without the influence of sites, info, blah, blah that something big is going to transpire worldwide.  I am talking about gut instinct and intuition.

RT

[no_leaf_clover]

Had a short absence from posting on the forums for a few reasons and missed any early posts on this thread. I suppose it wouldn't be of any benefit of the thread to address the earlier posts that are now buried under more recent ones, but I will say that I certainly agree with the following quote that joya made:

You know, I do not appreciate (Frank and others) labeling people with different ideas as "younger" and therefore implying that WISDOM comes with age. It seems that I see the same people posting their "I know better than you" or "you only believe this because you are young" opinions over and over.

This isn't just something that little kids believe, though it seems it would certainly require somewhat of an open or indescriminate thought process to fairly evaluate the subject, especially from a lot of what I've read here, and those sorts of things are of course more common among the younger generations.

Some Tibetan monks recently spoke to their local media regarding the subject and I tend to respect monks quite a bit, so it carried some weight for me.

http://216.132.172.70/indiadaily/editorial/12-26-04.asp

The article actual reminded me of the Titor posts more than anything, which I at first thought was a little eerie since I'm not thoroughly convinced that Titor was actually from the future. I suppose these types of messages are effective so long as they get some thought going, as opposed to a descriminatory, conditioned 'not again' outlook. I don't take the 'May whatever-day Pole-Shift" 's seriously either, but because of the accuracy of the Mayan calendars, I tend to put a little faith in the Mayans' designation of 2012 as a year that signifies a new celestial cycle. As for dates of anything else.. maybe, maybe not. But a lot of things seem to be heading towards a big simultaneous climax, with global warming becoming more apparent and political situations becoming more tense with wars and scandals, the Book of Revelations starting to seem to come into play, and then on top of this, a literal 'new age' designated as 2012 by the Mayans (This is why all of their calendars stop there. I believe the cycle that this date is a part of is either the biggest or 2nd biggest cycle they kept track of.).



Where will I be in 2012? Ahhhhhhhh.. I have no idea ://  But maybe hopefully in the Appalachians somewhere.