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Author Topic: Agharta, Hollow Earth, and the Subterranian cities  (Read 4602 times)
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« on: March 04, 2003, 16:09:11 »

Ughh... I feel like Neo from the Matrix. I'm not sure whether I believe this or not... Let's just say I'd have to see it for myself. I'm not saying there's no way it exists, but I would rather see it before I believe it. Aucom's Razor is a good way to start out when proving something. Well, at one point the earth was thought to be flat. Now it is thought to be round. What doesn't make sense to me is that if the earth was hollow, then how is it that astronauts saw it from space as round? And where does lava come from? And how come satellites didn't pick up those small holes on the North and South poles? That's it, I'm going to be a hermit and live in some shack in the deep uncharted wilderness of Canada.

hmm... there must be some seriously complicated quantum physics involved here if in fact this is true. All kinds of twists and mutilations to the time-space continuum fabric.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2003, 16:17:38 »

Also, to contribute to the theory, little is known about the shape of the Universe. It was thought to be spherical and infinite. It has also been thought to be finite with no boundaries (meaning when you pass through one side of the universe you come out on the opposite side and it repeats itself). It's like looking into a mirror that is facing another mirror. It looks infinite but that's merely an illusion created by the physical properties of light. It has also been thought of as a mobius strip, and also a piece of paper folded over itself. Anyway, at least it's an entertaining post.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2003, 18:21:45 »

Hey Ender,
1. Astronauts can't see it from space, because most of the time there are cloud coverage, but you think NASA wouldn't tell their astronauts not to say things..  And think of all of the little astronaut missions that kill the whole crew for itty bitty reasons!  I mean Apollo was a huge one, the crew was locked in their practice ship, where there happened to be a fire.
2.  Lava does come from the center of the earth, the solid part anyways, rather than a huge ball of it (wich to me makes no sense) There are pools of it underground, that constantly recycle themselves.  
3.  There are tons of satelite photos that pop up showing the holes in the caps.  Allthough I dont feel like searching for one now... I will... :goes to search:
http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.v-j-enterprises.com%2Fjanpicts.html
There we go.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2003, 18:58:01 »

This map implies that Inner Earth has a sky, which is more than outer earth has. And also a sun. What are your thoughts on this?

What sort of inhabitants dwell there? Are they friend or foe?

This map is whacked. I don't know how this could make sense. They had a futurama where they mined a planet too much and the planet became hollow and collapsed in on itself. This would seem to be the case if this happened to the earth. If one were to keep digging, they say that about five miles down they would be incinerated from such tremendous heat. Didn't they also prove that the inner core of the earth was iron? It is possible that if civilizations do exist, they could be from the Marina Trench. That depth of the ocean has never been reached by anything man-made. The pressure is so great there though, so we'll never meet those beings because if we went down there we'd explode, and if they came up here they'd implode, because of such differences in pressure.

This is an interesting theory, but is definitely really far-fetched. There is a possibility it does exist- maybe that's where I can run if they reinstate the draft hehe. I'll need an all-terrain vehicle to get down there though, one with a drill on the front of it and also is able to turn into a submarine and is able to climb up walls and on the ceiling of a cave. Some heavy-duty engineering involved. hmm... *contemplates building such a vehicle*
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2003, 19:06:31 »

Hmm... I hope you didn't direct link to those images. People don't like their bandwith being stolen.

Anyways, yes, I've looked into the subject before. What I tend to do though, is this: I'll look into something that seems interesting, then look for countering points.

The one with the big hole, I've seen before (well, I've seen all of them) and a site explained it as the satellite images were missing parts, or something. It was a while ago, so I don't quite remember, but it did have an explanation, and, not having my own, personal satellite, I can't really prove or disprove it.

And, you're really blowing it for me. I don't really like conspiracy theories.

Also, uh, if there's a big hole, how did a submarine take the Northwest Passage? It lies under the ice. I don't remember the name of the submarine, or when, I just remember reading about it happening.

Sad I'm really bad with details. [xx(]
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2003, 19:20:08 »

I forgot one more fairly important/major point- Wouldn't a sun on the inside of the earth incinerate everything including the earth itself? The "sun" is only about a couple kilometers across, but still, it must be tremendously hot. No offense but I think a lot of fairly basic stuff throws this theory out the window. The more I think about it, the more things I can come up with to disprove it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2003, 20:04:19 »

Weeeeeell, its certainly an interesting proposition....

"This would seem to be the case if this happened to the earth. If one were to keep digging, they say that about five miles down they would be incinerated from such tremendous heat. Didn't they also prove that the inner core of the earth was iron?"
Hmm - the Russians managed 12km deep (deepest hole ever). I think that they did a audio recording of what sounds were down there, I heard it online once.....screaming.....fire....sounded like hell...Anyway! They did it to try and prove the continental crust theory, but unfortunately for PJ geologists, the earth they were bringing up was identical to that on the surface. Which kinda stumps tectonic plate theory (didn't stop em from teaching it to me in school like it was the bible though! Or darwinian evolution for that matter...even had to make up plain old lies to sustain that one)
Oh, some oil wells get to 6Km too.
Anyway I heard a lot of this on an interview a while back, would have been unknowncountry or coast to coast, not sure.
But another piece of evidence the bloke presented was that after Chenobyl, the radioactive dust and stuff stayed only in the northern hemisphere, because of the way the circulation cells work on our planet. None could, or did, drift over the equator. However, when investigating the ice on the antartic they discovered radioctive material dated to the same time. But none anywhere in the south hemisphere except the antartic....courious...

But myself, I last views were that there are probably massive caverns, whether man made or not, dunno, but big caverns and lots of tunnels. We know there is SOMETHING down there, eg Mels hole (and similar), the entrances in south america (some of which were dynamited, considered too "dangerous" - so a few people went in there and never came out, real Indiana Jones stories, but hey! this is important...grrr).

But, I really have no idea anymore. I need an antigravity craft....badly.

Hey enderwiggin - isn't cananda a bit cold? hehe I think you and me are thinking along similar lines. When the SHTF I am planning on bolting, quickly. Wanna join me?!
Oh, about the central sun, who's to say it is natural?

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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2003, 20:18:19 »

Sounds like fun. Nobody'd ever find us in a cavern. However, suppose the Other Side of the earth doesn't exist... then what?! I'd go nuts if I never saw the sun again. Maybe we could head out there before the SHTF then we can't get into any kind of legal trouble. Sell the house, keep the money in a bank account, let it earn interest, and when you come back out you'll be a rich man (or woman)! I think antigravity is definitely the way to go. I thought about screwing around with electromagnets- that's how they get those 'perpetual motion' toys to work. The electromagnet's strength would have to coincide with its placement on the earth's magnetic field in order to keep up the repellant. So we'd have to find a way to alter it. also, it's possible the electromagnet could rip the ship apart, lest we build it out of wood or something funky like that. Wood is good because it is so versatile. But it is flammable. Well, maybe we can cover it with something to stop it from catching on fire. Special plastic, maybe?
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2003, 20:39:52 »

About the inner sun.  Its no tthe type of firey sun we think of, it's more of a plasma, and the atmosphere there is the same hieght as here, just inside.  [Tongue]  Well.  There is some evidence that it's not feasable, but more that it is.  But, it's all an assumption, either way.  No one has proven it, except the ones peopel call crazy.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2003, 21:15:11 »

Cool!
In one of my former lives, I was a hermit, and strongly suspect I lived in a cave. Might try and find it again at some point.
Yeah anti-gravity is definately the way forward! I am doing some research, sporadically, on that at the moment. Amonstgst other things.

"The electromagnet's strength would have to coincide with its placement on the earth's magnetic field in order to keep up the repellant. So we'd have to find a way to alter it."
Altering the earths magnetic field??? whoa, thats big!

"Special plastic, maybe?"
Well, the easiest way I am thinking of is just modifying a car - stripping out the engine, all other mess, so its just a frame, wheels, chassis and seats. Either that or something small, so you fly say a 2 person model with both lying down, facing forward, one person on a level above the other.

Sure would be useful to find an entrance into the central earth. Maybe if we ask Red Elk politely he will point us to a safe haven? He reckons all the huge caverns have their own little mock-suns, and some of the cities are just awesome....they've already sent a load of people in. I think I will either need Gods protection, which I am puting my hopes in (he's listening!!), and/or access to somewhere deeeeep and safe, cos some of the people I have annoyed in my cloud-busting work really don't like me anymore.
Aaahhh I dont think leaving money in banks is a good idea. They are going DOWN! I wonder if we will even have money in the next Age, suspect not.

This would be useful, you're in USA, you might want to think about taking a course:
http://www.trackerschool.com/
I would, but....English, long way...
BUT if I took the course, think, could just live in the Wilderness, no cares, moving where and when I want, aaaaahh, heaven!

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2003, 08:00:31 »

Cloud busting, eh? I thought about building a cloud-buster. Maybe even a field of them. If these guys were after me, they'd have to answer to a whole ****load of REALLY GOOD martial artists.

By the way, how do you know if they're watching you? What signs should we be looking for? We should hire some ninjas. Infiltrate and destroy...

Yeah, I'd definitely go somewhere real deep inside a cave when the SHTF. I could have all sorts of defenses set up down there too. I could make a base down there and start doing something worthwhile with my life- helping some people. ah, I am sooooo tired, so I'm probably sounding crazy. I think I'll stop now before I wind up in a mental hospital. Good-night.
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"By the way, how do you know if they're watching you?"
Well! The black military helicopter (black hawk) which circled me about a month ago now, and the fact that my phone line is tapped, are pretty good indications! [:O]
Which sounds uber-paranoid, but I can hear them cutting in an out when I am on the phone, and the sound of the other person noticeably changes, its quite blatent. Like, my freind said it sounded like it does when he is talking to his mum and dad on phones, ie 3 phones going at once. The other day it was really screwy, I think their equiptment started playing up, started hearing loads of popping noises and weird stuff, until we had to just give up. Its really annoying! But I am beginning to think it is entirely automated.
- btw I am not the only person to report this, by a long shot. Most people who build cloud-busters get similar treatment. Many in the US get a copter visit within the first hour their CB is up and running. Some even get death threats, and proper attempts. Luckily God wants us alive!

"What signs should we be looking for? We should hire some ninjas. Infiltrate and destroy..."
tehehehee. They've got a thing for black helicopters.

"Cloud busting, eh? I thought about building a cloud-buster. Maybe even a field of them. If these guys were after me, they'd have to answer to a whole ****load of REALLY GOOD martial artists. "
LOL. Yeah man try it! Get rid of them dirty chemtrails. What martial art do you practise - oh yeah, King Fu, in your profile. I'm thinking of taking up aikido, whaddayathink?

Helping people? Deep in some cave? You thinking of starting a proper community? That could be nice. Breaking away from the sytem, as it were. I'm beginning to think somewhere in central Afrika would be safest. Or deep in the Brazilian rainforest, find one of those tribes miles from anyone, or an ancient city on a mountain top, or something.

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2003, 12:24:14 »

Some assumptions and wquestions...

1. Are you serious about living underground?  Nothing personal, really but you sound like those guys who wig out about everything they hear and think the worlds gonna end.  I mean yeah, lot's of stuff is happeneing now, and SmightHTF but to me that doesn't mean I need to run away, if it did happen I would stay here, your not going to help many people underground you know.  And by then I really don't think we will have to worry about the military.  Earth's beauty is up here, not in rocks.  I mean I might hide out if, say Nuclear-war broke out, or Bio agents, or meteoriods, but I wouldn't make myself secluded and be a hermit.

2. What Is a cloud buster.  In detail, maybe a link if you dont feel like typing.  And If it is one of those triangle floaters, SO MANY PEOPLE MAKE THEM.  If black helicopters and agents are watching you, that's pretty lame, but I can't say I don't beleive you, I mean I don't think anyone here lies for the most part.  Maybe you saw a helicopter and got a little paranoid, or your just hearing interfearance on the phone, I know all the time when I call my freind, we allways get other peoples conversations in on our, or hear clicking and whispering and wirring and buzzing on the other end.  But that's just interfierance.  I mean I do know all about, a big percentage of their coverups and stuff, but they aren't watching me, maybe just the thought that you made this machine is putting these in your head.  Hoopa! I'm rambling again!

3. What do you think "SHTF" really is?  Natural like that Comet NEAT, Thermo-Nuclear war? Biological war?  A mix?  Looks like all of em are being shaken up now.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2003, 16:46:55 »

Shawn - I'll answer the question about a cloud-buster first. Have you heard of chemtrails? I'll assume you have, if not do some research there first - they are real, and they are costing the black government an incredibly large amount of money. The scale of this operation is vast, huge, mindboggling. Our cloudbusters should really be called a chembuster, because it is not really like the original cloud-buster built by Wilhelm Reich. Well, it disperses chemtrails, breaks them up, removes them. Chemtrails are not just about chemicals either - check out www.carnicom.com, they have a real witches brew in there, stuff like red blood cells, which is just bizarre. We know they put down a thick layer of negative energy over the land, cause upper repiratory problems, lower the immune systems capablity, and they probably increase the effectiveness of HAARP (another thing chembusters work against) and related technology (which we also bust, directly), and they have been speculated to contain DNA suppressing agents to stop the changes which are taking us into the next age (so trying not to say new age!)
We know that CB's disperse chemtrails - this can be seen visually. Eg many people see a real hole in the chem soup about them as soon as theirs gets operational. I went down the coast to eastbourne a while back, and the chem was really thick there. I came home - none. It just doesn't stick like it used to.
The weather around here got really windy a while back, and my CB was blown over a couple of times, the base is mostly buried now. That week I was coming home friday afternoon (only have half days friday), and notices chemtrails, thick, all over the sky - I noticed this as being really unusual, and suspected the cause. I got home, and sure enough, my CB was lying on its side. Uprighted it, dug it in, few hours later and the chem was almost completely gone. That sunday, I was visited by the helicopter, and very soon afterwards the phone tapping began - no clicks, changes in sound, anything like that before this event.
But still, it does sound lame doesn't it? However, when almost everyone who builds these things - and all the people who do it seriously - report exactly the same things happening to them (and like I said, sometimes much much worst), then you get to a point when you cannot deny the logic, the evidence of your own senses, and the corroborating experience of other people. The logic I refer to is that these things don't cost much for me, but cost the power elite types immense sums, and seriously impede their agenda.
More info on chembusters, holy hand grenades, etc at:
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html
However, that site is currently down, there has been talk it has been hacked.
the forums where we discuss all this at:
forums.cloud-busters.com
(but I warn you! They are a mixed bunch....there is a lot of paranoia there, which is kinda understandable, considering the forums have been under almost continuous hacker attacks for ooh, must be getting on for 1 month now, and there are always agents checking it out, trying to divide, spread misinformation, etc etc....no, I'm not joking - I have witnessed all this! Insidious types....)
Essentially, I would have to call myself insane if I refused to see what is going on. I mean, hehe, I would already classify myself as a little loony, but not in a "if I close my eyes it will go away!!! Fingers in ears I can't hear you blah blah!!!" type way that seems to stereotype most people these days. Was it always like this I wonder?
However, on how CB's work, this is a big ongoing debate. The base is an energy converter - it changes negative to positive energy. So the negative (dor - dead orgone) is drawn down the pipes and converted to positive (or/orgone). It seems that the effect of this is much bigger than you might guess. I won't go into it now, it would take far too long! But essentially, in removing the dor they also remove the cause/caused of this type of energy, like the positively charge chemicals (aluminium and barium - a poison, negative charged ions being beneficial for health, mainstream just discovering this...finally), the immuno-suppressants, and biological nasties, etc etc.
Its quite a complex subject..

But enough of that!

About the world "ending", well everything points to the coming of the age of Aquarius. Everything! - social, political, economic, viral, geological, atmospheric, super-geological (heh, I mean, solar system changes), ummm....prophetic (which even I have a little experience with)....views of extraterrestrials from contactees.......err...sure there is more, can't think of right now. If you want me to go further in each of these points, let me know. There really is a lot of data to back it up, and as you can see, I'm not *just* an armchair muse! The form which it will take is what is really interesting though. Lots of guessing going on about that...
When it all goes crazy, well I'm going to rely on God to give me direction on where to go, but failing that...hehe....RUN!!!!! I have been feeling more of a calling to get out somewhere a long way from anywhere, increasingly (underground would certainly qualify..). But, on the other side of the coin, yeah my heart says staying would be the most humane thing to do, so I can help other people. Ultimately, if God wants you alive, you will stay that way. I have heard there were people who survived in japan, who were right underneath the atomic bomb when it hit. They were praying at the time. Other people have told me stories of bullets bouncing off them, surviving mad car crashes, and they have no reason to lie (all CB operators, hence why they aren't just killing us...)

3. Lots of things. Plague. Economic collapse. Massive terrorist attacks all over the 1st world (they are already in our cities, waiting, with nukes, chem & bio warfire, etc). The US overtly become the 4rd Reich, after martial law is installed - due to "terrorist" activity (of course, the US govt is preparing for this already...). Aaahhh yeah the comet NEAT thing is interesting, its certainly being covered up, I don't know why or what its significance is. Oh yeah, you'll see the more exotic weapons being unleashed - scaler EM weapons aka Tesla weapons, mind control on a mass scale. The person who calls himself Maitreya (but isn't) will probably make a big appearance first. What we will see in the next few years though, IMO, while being horrible, is only the presursor. It will seem to calm down, with a one world government, with the "Maitreya" at the top of much of it, but he'll last only 7 years and then...BOOM!!!
But I could be massively wrong, thats just the way I currently see it.

I think thats enough typing for now!

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heh now you either think I am insane, lying, or am on to something. Which one you going for???
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